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    Nocticron Lens Shade

    Do any of you Nocticron owners have this problem? My lens shade leaves a sticky residue on the lens barrel.

    It looks like the adhesive on the band underneath the securing screw oozes out, in warm conditions, and the resulting goo attaches to the lens barrel. This makes it difficult to pull the shade off, and it leaves a residue. See the photos.

    Does anyone else have this problem? What do you do about it?

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    Re: Nocticron Lens Shade

    I cleaned my off with water. Wonder what Pana was thinking by using sticky tape as a band aid. Very poor workmanship for such an expensive lens.

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    Re: Nocticron Lens Shade

    I am sure all who uses the lens hood are familiar with this problem. I am at least.

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    Re: Nocticron Lens Shade

    I too have 'THE problem'. It's minor but a nuisance, when lower quality lenses have better shade/barrel connection.

    My ideal is the Olympus m.Zuiko Digital ED 12-40mm f/2.8 PRO Lens shade attachment, or the older Leica Summicron 35mm. The Summicron was similar to the m.Zuiko, but used a ringed groove on the barrel instead of a bayonet on the m.Zuiko. Of course the bayonet is needed for the petal shade for proper orientation.

    Furthermore, ideally, a shock resistant plastic or better, nylon, rather than metal that transfers any shock to the lens body.

    Methinks it was a design for the yearly vacation shooters, and lens strokers.

    FWIW, adding and Arca L type bracket and a silicone hand bracelet around the shade helps keep the lens/body off hard surfaces.

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    Question Re: Nocticron Lens Shade

    Any one get Panasonic to fix the lens shade oozing issue? May I ask what they did besides just cleaning everything?

    [1] Do they have a new smarter real world design shade?
    [2] Are they added a bayonet mount to the lens barrel 'a la' Oly 12-40 f2.8 Pro?
    [3] Changing to a clip on design like the Summicron?
    [4] Replacement with a quality plastic hood???

    Any hints welcome before I send mine in. Just a cleaning is not the resolution. It's a bad shade and a bad connection.

    Thank you for any forthcoming user/Pana solution.
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    Re: Nocticron Lens Shade

    Having the lens for just two weeks, so far I didn't notice any issues.
    However, with you guys experiences in mind I made sure not to over tighten that little screw and so preventing exsessive pressure on the tape.
    There is amazingly little force required to safely keep the hood from moving and sliding off the lens barrel.
    But with the temperatures down, only time will tell, that is till next spring/summer, if this meassure will work out alright ...

    All the very best.
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    Panasonic wanted me to send in the whole lens to take a look. I needed the lens so I ended up buying a nice screw in hood from B&H. Peter
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    Re: Nocticron Lens Shade

    Quote Originally Posted by plinden View Post
    Panasonic wanted me to send in the whole lens to take a look. I needed the lens so I ended up buying a nice screw in hood from B&H. Peter
    A screw-in hood offers unbeatable protection for the lens. A good choice if you ask me
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    Re: Nocticron Lens Shade

    Quote Originally Posted by Jorgen Udvang View Post
    A screw-in hood offers unbeatable protection for the lens. A good choice if you ask me
    Agreed, for some other lenses I'm using B+W screw-in metal or rubber lens shades. Made of plastic or nylon would perhaps have been an even better solution. But alas ...

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    Re: Nocticron Lens Shade

    Small update in the shade / hood issue. Problem solved with a workaround.... (Which should not be for a lens' at that price point)

    Sell the metal hood to a week-end shooter, and get a MATIN 67mm lens hood, which is plastic and bayonet adapter mounted, AND here is the secret!

    Get a 1 cup (236ml) round Pyrex lid to use as a lens cover on top of the Matin hood..... Choice of red or green, maybe blue in some countries. Use Pledge or Butcher Block wax (Q-Tip application, let dry 15 minutes, then wipe clean) on the bayonet threads for easier removal/install of the shade on the screw in adapter.
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    Re: Nocticron Lens Shade

    I've had this same problem since I acquired this lens and it makes no sense. This is one of the best made lenses ever, period. Why the heck is the hood so poorly designed? I've called Panasonic USA and they won't comment on the hood other than to say send it in for repair. They won't give me an estimate on the cost of this repair. I think I will just find a hood on Ebay and toss this one in the trash unless anyone here has a better idea?
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    Re: Nocticron Lens Shade

    Quote Originally Posted by zensu View Post
    I've had this same problem since I acquired this lens and it makes no sense. This is one of the best made lenses ever, period. Why the heck is the hood so poorly designed? I've called Panasonic USA and they won't comment on the hood other than to say send it in for repair. They won't give me an estimate on the cost of this repair. I think I will just find a hood on Ebay and toss this one in the trash unless anyone here has a better idea?
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    Sorry Bobby, no better ideas other than what I wrote last November.
    And still going strong ...

    Kind regards.
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    Re: Nocticron Lens Shade

    The problem is with that self-adhesive tape and in particular the glue.
    If you're thinking of looking for a replacement of the original hood, perhaps its worth trying to find other tape less prone to bleeding.
    I'm sure that's what Panasonic's 'repair' is all about.
    Problem is to find one-sided self-adhesive tape with the correct thickness.

    All the best.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Knorp View Post
    Sorry Bobby, no better ideas other than what I wrote last November.
    And still going strong ...

    Kind regards.
    Thanks Bart!
    Which B+W hood are you using? Ebay is like rolling the dice, sometimes you find something great, sometimes not. B+W sounds like a winner from the start. Most of my filters are B+W.
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    Re:Lens Shade

    Even the "ideal" lens shade that comes with the 12-40/2.8 Olympus lens can let you down. I popped the end cap loose on mine by putting the camera nose down in my car's cup-holder. Didn't reassemble it quite right, and now it no longer locks in place. Grrr (but it's mostly my fault).

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    Re: Nocticron Lens Shade

    Quote Originally Posted by zensu View Post
    Thanks Bart!
    Which B+W hood are you using? Ebay is like rolling the dice, sometimes you find something great, sometimes not. B+W sounds like a winner from the start. Most of my filters are B+W.
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    Hi there Bobby,

    please keep in mind I'm still using the original hood ...
    But here goes: as the original hood is quite deep (67mm filter size), you should consider a tele-lens hood.

    B+W nr.960 67mm Screw-In Aluminum Metal Telephoto Lens Hood (estimate 36 Euro)



    Nb I've always ordered my lens hoods from Foto Huppert Germany.

    Kind regards.
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    Re: Nocticron Lens Shade

    Quote Originally Posted by Knorp View Post
    Hi there Bobby,

    please keep in mind I'm still using the original hood ...
    But here goes: as the original hood is quite deep (67mm filter size), you should consider a tele-lens hood.

    B+W nr.960 67mm Screw-In Aluminum Metal Telephoto Lens Hood (estimate 36 Euro)



    Nb I've always ordered my lens hoods from Foto Huppert Germany.

    Kind regards.
    Is there a lens cap that will fit this hood? I've seen a Heliopan Tele lens hood that also includes a 67mm lens cap.

    http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...etal_Lens.html

    I don't know if this will vignette on the P/L 42.5, have you heard anything about this hood?
    Thanks, Bobby

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    Re: Nocticron Lens Shade

    Quote Originally Posted by zensu View Post
    Is there a lens cap that will fit this hood? I've seen a Heliopan Tele lens hood that also includes a 67mm lens cap.

    http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...etal_Lens.html

    I don't know if this will vignette on the P/L 42.5, have you heard anything about this hood?
    Thanks, Bobby
    Hi Tony,

    I think the long hood is fine as it has more or less the same shape as the original hood.
    Checked the B&H-link, but the lens cap is an extra $3.95 (Sensei - 67mm Center Pinch Snap-On Lens Cap).
    Using my Nocticron without lens cap, but then it lives in a plastic bag.

    Kind regards.
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    Re: Nocticron Lens Shade

    Quote Originally Posted by Knorp View Post
    Hi Tony,

    I think the long hood is fine as it has more or less the same shape as the original hood.
    Checked the B&H-link, but the lens cap is an extra $3.95 (Sensei - 67mm Center Pinch Snap-On Lens Cap).
    Using my Nocticron without lens cap, but then it lives in a plastic bag.

    Kind regards.
    I discovered that the original hood that comes with the 42.5mm F1.2 lens has a 77mm front opening on the lens hood so I'm sure to be safe that a 77mm lens hood with a step up ring 67mm->77mm to attach this to the lens threads would not vignette. Heliopan makes such a hood that also accepts a 77mm lens cap on the front of the hood.
    This has caused me endless grief trying to get around this glue leaking oem hood so much so that I saying now "To heck with it! I'll just use the OEM Hood in situations where a lot of flare is present, clean off the glue when done, and keep it stowed away in normal light".
    Bobby
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    Re: Nocticron Lens Shade

    Quote Originally Posted by zensu View Post
    I discovered that the original hood that comes with the 42.5mm F1.2 lens has a 77mm front opening on the lens hood so I'm sure to be safe that a 77mm lens hood with a step up ring 67mm->77mm to attach this to the lens threads would not vignette. Heliopan makes such a hood that also accepts a 77mm lens cap on the front of the hood.
    This has caused me endless grief trying to get around this glue leaking oem hood so much so that I saying now "To heck with it! I'll just use the OEM Hood in situations where a lot of flare is present, clean off the glue when done, and keep it stowed away in normal light".
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    That's the spirit, Bobby Now go out and post some !

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