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    Re: Yes, I think I would be able to live with this lens

    The Zuiko looks like an obvious choice over the Panasonic, but it isn't necessarily. It's twice as heavy and twice as large and lacks OIS for Panasonic cameras. I'm leaning towards the Panasonic for travel, but if the AF-C on the next generation m4/3 cameras is good enough for those cameras to replace my aging Nikon bodies, I will certainly buy the Zuiko too, for sports photography. With the adapter, it would replace almost 3 kilograms of Nikkor glass, 80-200 f/2.8 AF-S and 300 f/4 AF
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    Quote Originally Posted by scott kirkpatrick View Post
    One of the rumor sites said there would be a discount if you ordered the lens and 1.4X converter together, but when I put my order in there was no such deal in the $$ market. I even asked the support people and they said they had never heard of it. Is it different if you purchase in EUR?

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    Scott, as I said "kind of discount" meaning that ordering the converter together with the lens saves you €149 over buying these items separately.
    At least that's the situation here in Holland. Sorry ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jorgen Udvang View Post
    The Zuiko looks like an obvious choice over the Panasonic, but it isn't necessarily. It's twice as heavy and twice as large and lacks OIS for Panasonic cameras. I'm leaning towards the Panasonic for travel, but if the AF-C on the next generation m4/3 cameras is good enough for those cameras to replace my aging Nikon bodies, I will certainly buy the Zuiko too, for sports photography. With the adapter, it would replace almost 3 kilograms of Nikkor glass, 80-200 f/2.8 AF-S and 300 f/4 AF
    WRT size and weight of comparable Nikon (or Canon) glass I fully agree. This was actually the reason I sold all my Nikon gear to get back into m43 with EM1 and as soon as available this lens. Ideal for wildlife, sports etc.

    WRT AF-C speed and accuracy, the EM1 in its latest FW 2.0 or 2.1 has already gone a long way and is no longer much worse compared to Nikon AF-C performance. And as you say it can be expected that the next generation of m43 cameras will already perform the same if not even better.

    Cannot wait to get finally my hands on one

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    Quote Originally Posted by ptomsu View Post
    WRT AF-C speed and accuracy, the EM1 in its latest FW 2.0 or 2.1 has already gone a long way and is no longer much worse compared to Nikon AF-C performance. And as you say it can be expected that the next generation of m43 cameras will already perform the same if not even better.

    Cannot wait to get finally my hands on one
    When in the south of France in June this year, I was surprised to find a raptor show at Chateau des Milandes which we were visiting.

    I had the E-M1 and the 35-100 Panasonic with me, 5 minutes warning to think about and set the camera... maybe not optimum, but I was happy with the results. I found that the AF-C was less of a problem than my ability to keep up with the birds flying in random patterns, but that was my problem, not the camera or lens. This sequence, while the distant shots needed cropping quite heavily, sure got the focus in my opinion. I think my tracking would have been worse with a much larger lens, it is all about balance... I would like to try this new lens first.

    I was really happy with the combination I had to hand, but yes.. another 50 or 100mm would be nice, F4 is fine but you still have to carry it. With the lighter kit, I always had all lenses with me, I remember the Nikon and Sony A days, you had to choose the subject and which lenses you took that day.....

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    Phil,

    those shots look great!

    Another example how well the EM1 AF-C works even with non Olympus glass. I think you are right that for birds in flight any of such long lenses are rather difficult to use. When talking wildlife in my case I think more of animals either moving on the ground in worst case. But of course I also would be happy to be able catching hunting lions, leopards or cheetahs if I am lucky to be there at the right moment ....

    So I am pretty sure that with the 2.8/40-150 paired with the improved AF accuracy and focusing speed through the recent EM1 FW 2.1 (developed mainly for this lens) should be just stellar

    Coming from Nikon with a 80-400 equivalent lens (same BTW true for Canon and Sony which I shot both in former years) the weight of the Olympus combo is of course more than welcome - one of the main reasons I am switching to this

    Finally combined with the excellent Olympus Pro Grade glass you must have a winner - even wide open at f2.8 (or f4 with TC1.4)

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    Spectacular shots, Phil !
    Good job

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knorp View Post
    Scott, as I said "kind of discount" meaning that ordering the converter together with the lens saves you €149 over buying these items separately.
    At least that's the situation here in Holland. Sorry ...

    Kind regards.
    Aha! So there is a EURO deal. Too late for me. Maybe this is a response to recent currency movements.

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    Matix signs off with "These Photographers are Crazy!"

    Is that meant as an Asterix quote? (Ces sont fou, ces Romains!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by scott kirkpatrick View Post
    Matix signs off with "These Photographers are Crazy!"

    Is that meant as an Asterix quote? (Ces sont fou, ces Romains!)

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    Oui, ce sont mes héros de.

    Yes Scott, when my kids were young they got me into Asterix and Obelix, our family dog was of course Dogmatix... I inherited Matix. Great humour, my recent time in France reinforced the memories... the French humour, translated into English was very well done of course.

    And of course, we photographers are a little crazy too, no?

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    Re: Yes, I think I would be able to live with this lens

    Mine arrived on Saturday.
    First impressions:
    Great build quality. Smaller and lighter than it looks in photos (the lens hood adds a lot of apparent size). Balances very nicely on the E-M1. Fast autofocus.

    Tried it with sports and it tracks very nicely with firmware 2.2. Tried it close up and it is almost a macro, whilst allowing you to stay a reasonable distance away from subjects that are prone to disappear.

    Great lens!
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    Sounds promising!

    Cannot wait to get mine .....

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    Quote Originally Posted by ptomsu View Post
    Sounds promising!

    Cannot wait to get mine .....

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    I'm afraid we have no other option then to wait, Peter.
    If you like me ordered it along with the 1.4xTC we have to wait even longer ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knorp View Post
    I'm afraid we have no other option then to wait, Peter.
    If you like me ordered it along with the 1.4xTC we have to wait even longer ...

    Kind regards.
    Yes me too with the 1.4TC - my dealer said it should come late December or begin of Jan.

    Lets hope and keep fingers crossed!

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    Re: Yes, I think I would be able to live with this lens

    I'm waiting too . . . but I didn't order the TC - no idea when it's coming.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonoslack View Post
    I'm waiting too . . . but I didn't order the TC - no idea when it's coming.
    Well, Olympus' message mentioned availability starting from December ...
    Will you keep your µ43 system, Jono ?

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    Re: Yes, I think I would be able to live with this lens

    Quote Originally Posted by Knorp View Post
    Well, Olympus' message mentioned availability starting from December ...
    Will you keep your µ43 system, Jono ?

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    HI There Bart
    Yes - definitely keeping it - It'll be one or the other, but I'll run them together for a bit and I suspect it'll be the one . .
    I spoke to a guy from LCE, and he said that Olympus had 3000 pre-orders in the UK and only a hundred or so lenses to ship - so I may have to wait until February. We shall see.

    How about you - are you tempted by the 'other'?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonoslack View Post
    HI There Bart
    Yes - definitely keeping it - It'll be one or the other, but I'll run them together for a bit and I suspect it'll be the one . .
    I spoke to a guy from LCE, and he said that Olympus had 3000 pre-orders in the UK and only a hundred or so lenses to ship - so I may have to wait until February. We shall see.

    How about you - are you tempted by the 'other'?
    Always tempted, Jono - always tempted ... but nothing definite yet.
    Quite happy with my (second) EM1 and in particular the Nocticron.
    Biding my time till there is news of an A9 or EM1-mkII.
    But above all really looking forward to this lens.

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    Re: Yes, I think I would be able to live with this lens

    I got my order in direct to Olympus-US on the day they announced, and ordered the 1.4X separately since there was no discount in the $ world for buying the two together. No word yet. I was hoping that I would see it next week when I visit the delayed timezones...

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    Re: Yes, I think I would be able to live with this lens

    My local dealer has received his first shipment and they have all gone already.
    I was number five on their list so only a very small consignment! I am told that mine will be coming in about two more weeks.
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    Re: Yes, I think I would be able to live with this lens

    I just talked to my dealer - he said that he hasn't had any in, but that I was number 4 on the list. We'll see who gets it first!

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    Re: Yes, I think I would be able to live with this lens

    A belated Saint Nicolas or an early Santa Claus ?

    Got a ring from my 'dealer' (what a dirty profession), expecting my lens next week.
    No word yet if it will come with or without TC.
    Oh well, could be a hoax you know ... nah, don't think so



    Perhaps I should start reading the manual, so I'll be ready to live with this lens ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knorp View Post

    Perhaps I should start reading the manual, so I'll be ready to live with this lens ...

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    No point for me. I'd have forgotten it by the time the lens arrives

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    Re: Yes, I think I would be able to live with this lens

    Funny that. Just got the call from WEX. It's arriving at my door tomorrow.

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    Re: Yes, I think I would be able to live with this lens

    GRRRRR.

    I just called Olympus in the US to see what my delivery position was, and found that my order had been cancelled, even though it appears on their website as ordered. I am welcome to order again, and wait in the line with today's date stamped on my forehead. I'll put in the order again, but with B&H, who don't apply the local sales tax where I will pick it up.

    Being an early adopter is only fun when you are early enough. Enjoy the lens, guys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scott kirkpatrick View Post
    GRRRRR.

    I just called Olympus in the US to see what my delivery position was, and found that my order had been cancelled, even though it appears on their website as ordered. I am welcome to order again, and wait in the line with today's date stamped on my forehead. I'll put in the order again, but with B&H, who don't apply the local sales tax where I will pick it up.

    Being an early adopter is only fun when you are early enough. Enjoy the lens, guys.

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    I'm sorry Scott - how very irritating. I'll keep you posted!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonoslack View Post
    Just got the call from WEX. It's arriving at my door tomorrow.
    But of course you won't unwrap it until Christmas morning .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elderly View Post
    But of course you won't unwrap it until Christmas morning .
    Bugger that Ian - my Christmas Present is going to be a 50 APO 'cron (in my dreams)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elderly View Post
    But of course you won't unwrap it until Christmas morning .
    Yeah, c'mon Jono - be a good sport, will ya ?



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    Re: Yes, I think I would be able to live with this lens

    I picked up my lens yesterday at Samy's in Santa Barbara, CA. Although it is an hour away it is my B & M of choice. It is usually a very nice hour. The box it comes in is amazingly big for a m43 lens. Fortunately, the lens is very reasonably sized. Although there is off and on rain today I took it to a local park, it is after all a pretty robust lens. I also had my dog along, so the various birds were not too keen on letting me get too close. I also did not have an opportunity to try multiple settings. My dog is a Husky and has her own opinion about extensive camera setting changes. Not great bird pictures, but another piece of information.

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    Re: Yes, I think I would be able to live with this lens

    I just started a 'fun with' thread for the lens, as it does seem worth it.
    So - excuse the double posting:


    1600 ISO (Matty)


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    1600 ISO (Matty)

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    Well, the phone just rang - going to prepare myself in ernest to start living with this lens ...
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    Re: Yes, I think I would be able to live with this lens

    Quote Originally Posted by Knorp View Post
    Well, the phone just rang - going to prepare myself in ernest to start living with this lens ...
    You won't find it difficult!

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    Got the Beasty and that incredibly small 1.4xTC, too !
    Beautiful piece of equipment, can't wait to take it out for a spin !

    Al the very best.
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    Re: Yes, I think I would be able to live with this lens

    Got mine with 1.4 TC as well today. What a wonderful lens!

    First test shot are very promising! Will publish some if I have more time during next week.

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    Re: Yes, I think I would be able to live with this lens

    I also collected mine today, but alas no TC14 's available in the UK at the moment. The lens however is superbly built and I shall try it our tomorrow as there was no time or light today.
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    Re: Yes, I think I would be able to live with this lens

    Mine is in transit... locally $1,700 AUD with the TC, looking forward to the reach. Unfortunately the LX100 had to go, not that I lost too much sleep, the GX7 I have is preferred.... if only that LX100 lens was available separately!!

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    Re: Yes, I think I would be able to live with this lens

    From last weekend. EM1 with 40-150/2.8. Boukeh looks really nice to me as well as contrast. All shot wide open.

    2014-12-12_0001.jpg by ptomsu, on Flickr

    2014-12-12_0008.jpg by ptomsu, on Flickr

    2014-12-12_0009.jpg by ptomsu, on Flickr

    So far I love this lens!

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    Re: Yes, I think I would be able to live with this lens

    Quote Originally Posted by Matix View Post
    Mine is in transit... locally $1,700 AUD with the TC, looking forward to the reach. Unfortunately the LX100 had to go, not that I lost too much sleep, the GX7 I have is preferred.... if only that LX100 lens was available separately!!
    Sorry to hear that Phil. I only use my LX100 for occasional family type stuff or the odd bit of street photography etc.

    However I agree that it is no replacement for the E-M1 and now with the 40-150 Pro lens it is beginning to make a very useful pro kit!
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    Re: Yes, I think I would be able to live with this lens

    Some of today with TC1.4

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    Re: Yes, I think I would be able to live with this lens

    One of our extended family dogs, "Bertie" the Border Terrier, more often known as the Border Terrorist!



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    Using the 40-150 Pro at 1/50 at F2.8 maximum FL handheld
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    Re: Yes, I think I would be able to live with this lens

    Quote Originally Posted by dhsimmonds View Post
    One of our extended family dogs, "Bertie" the Border Terrier, more often known as the Border Terrorist!
    He certainly looks he means business ...

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    Re: Yes, I think I would be able to live with this lens

    B&H just shipped me mine (w/o the 1.4 TC). I only ordered from them after Olympus was shipping, so B&H's backlog must not be as great as some rumors would have it. It will be in Houston TX waiting for me to decide how to collect it later this week.

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    Re: Yes, I think I would be able to live with this lens

    I picked up my MC14 today so I am hoping to give it some exercise over the Christmas holiday.
    Cheers, Dave
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    Re: Yes, I think I would be able to live with this lens

    Here is an interesting review of the 1.4x teleconverter by SLRGear.

    Olympus MC-14 1.4X M.Zuiko Digital Teleconverter (Tested)

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    Re: Yes, I think I would be able to live with this lens

    Quote Originally Posted by scott kirkpatrick View Post
    B&H just shipped me mine (w/o the 1.4 TC). I only ordered from them after Olympus was shipping, so B&H's backlog must not be as great as some rumors would have it. It will be in Houston TX waiting for me to decide how to collect it later this week.

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    and it's arriving in Jerusalem this afternoon! (Christmas is optional here, of course.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by scott kirkpatrick View Post
    and it's arriving in Jerusalem this afternoon! (Christmas is optional here, of course.)
    Excellent, Scott ! Well, as long as the lens doesn't turn out to be optional, everything seems set for a fine Xmas ...

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    Re: Yes, I think I would be able to live with this lens

    Cool, the way the hood slides back!
    Nice, switching from AF to MF same as on 12-40/2.8.
    With best regards, K-H.
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    Re: Yes, I think I would be able to live with this lens

    40-150 lens arrived just as promised. I made it as far through the instructions as Jono -- got the tripod support off. Here are a few shots within a few steps of the house:







    If there is a nice moon tonight I will put the tripod support back on.

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    Not necessary. IBIS works just fine handheld and a pretty full moon!
    With best regards, K-H.

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