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    G1 to Canon FD adapter article...

    Interesting article here...

    Canon FD to m4/3rds adapter with lots of FD lenses shown.

    Where will it all end?

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    Re: G1 to Canon FD adapter article...

    Quote Originally Posted by Brian Mosley View Post
    Interesting article here...

    Canon FD to m4/3rds adapter with lots of FD lenses shown.

    Where will it all end?

    Kind Regards

    Brian
    Well, it will have to end before the EF lenses, since there´s no way of setting the aperture without lots of electronics. Same for Nikon G lenses; they stay at their smallest aperture all the time. Not very useful....

    BTW, Brian, any info about a time frame for the next f/w version for the G1? The more adapters I get, the more I want a faster way of getting to the focussing aid.....

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    Re: G1 to Canon FD adapter article...

    Quote Originally Posted by Brian Mosley View Post
    Interesting article here...

    Canon FD to m4/3rds adapter with lots of FD lenses shown.

    Where will it all end?

    Kind Regards

    Brian

    Thanks for the link Brian. I'm using the Rayqual FD adapter on my G1 with a couple of Canon FD lenses (50mm f/1.2 and 85mm f/1.8). The lenses are relatively small and balance nicely on the G1. Lots of old Canon FD lenses on the market and some good bargains.

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    Re: G1 to Canon FD adapter article...

    Get your FD and FL lenses while they are cheap.

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    Re: G1 to Canon FD adapter article...

    Quote Originally Posted by Per Ofverbeck View Post
    BTW, Brian, any info about a time frame for the next f/w version for the G1? The more adapters I get, the more I want a faster way of getting to the focussing aid.....
    Hi Per, I have an appointment for tomorrow - will let you know any feedback.

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    Re: G1 to Canon FD adapter article...

    Per, I've updated our Safari Group field review just now (answering John Newman's earlier question regarding the 7-14), and will update again tomorrow.

    The news is that development is continuing as planned, the 7-14 and 14-150 will ship in the spring and the 20mm will ship in the Autumn... exact dates to be announced soon.

    Panasonic are investing serious resources into developing the G series of cams. Excellent news imho.

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    Re: G1 to Canon FD adapter article...

    Quote Originally Posted by Brian Mosley View Post
    Per, I've updated our Safari Group field review just now (answering John Newman's earlier question regarding the 7-14), and will update again tomorrow.

    The news is that development is continuing as planned, the 7-14 and 14-150 will ship in the spring and the 20mm will ship in the Autumn... exact dates to be announced soon.
    Good news, except that I would have liked to get the 20 far earlier.... OTOH, who knows what Olympus will launch in the meantime...

    Quote Originally Posted by Brian Mosley View Post
    Panasonic are investing serious resources into developing the G series of cams. Excellent news imho.
    Indeed. And, great to have such a channel for communication with a manufacturer of Panasonic´s magnitude.... One almost feels a bit dizzy
    I did know a couple of guys at Hasselblad when that was my preferred gun, but never had the feeling they cared much about suggestions from outsiders...

    Thanks to Brian, this group seem to actually influence what´s coming up to some extent. Incredible!

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    Very disappointing to hear the 20 won't be available to the autumn
    Time to get the Oly 25 pancake I guess and that 7-14 is going to sell like the proverbial hot cakes...

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    Quote Originally Posted by kiloran View Post
    Very disappointing to hear the 20 won't be available to the autumn
    Time to get the Oly 25 pancake I guess and that 7-14 is going to sell like the proverbial hot cakes...
    Ditto, the 20 was the must-have lens for me. I'm guessing I'll probably end up with the Oly 25 then, or a Voigtlander 25/4 Color-Skopar.

    I'm glad to hear there's a lot of resources going into the system, it's pretty much perfect for my digital work and I'm looking for long-term buyin to the system.

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    not till autumn for the 20, bummer.
    i far prefer a 40 to a 50 (20/25) so i guess it's the kit lens and the zm 21 for a while yet.

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    Re: G1 to Canon FD adapter article...

    Quote Originally Posted by Per Ofverbeck View Post
    Thanks to Brian, this group seem to actually influence what´s coming up to some extent. Incredible!
    But with the 20mm not being available until this autumn... They must have listened to somebody else also!



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    But with the 20mm not being available until this autumn... They must have listened to somebody else also!



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    Well, I know that the DPReview forums are all over the 14-140 (The least interesting of the three to me). And Panny is known to monitor those forums as there's a very strong FZ series community there.

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    Re: G1 to Canon FD adapter article...

    Originally Posted by Per Ofverbeck
    Thanks to Brian, this group seem to actually influence what´s coming up to some extent. Incredible!
    Sounds like a religious cult is sprouting up.

    Bad news.

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    Re: G1 to Canon FD adapter article...

    Quote Originally Posted by mawz View Post
    Well, I know that the DPReview forums are all over the 14-140 (The least interesting of the three to me). And Panny is known to monitor those forums as there's a very strong FZ series community there.
    Hmm. If Panny monitors DPR they can't have missed all the requests for the 20/1.7 to be available ASAP.

    I think Panny are hot on the 14-140 as they need it for the video version of the G1.

    Now what? I'm not very interested in buying a Zeiss 21mm for EUR 1.100 or something like that. I'll have to check alternatives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonas View Post
    Hmm. If Panny monitors DPR they can't have missed all the requests for the 20/1.7 to be available ASAP.

    I think Panny are hot on the 14-140 as they need it for the video version of the G1.

    Now what? I'm not very interested in buying a Zeiss 21mm for EUR 1.100 or something like that. I'll have to check alternatives.
    I'm guessing the best alternatives would be either the Voigtlander 21/4 or the Pentax SMC-M 20/4 for small, good and not too pricey. The Oly 21/2 would probably be a decent option as well at a price not much lower than the Zeiss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mawz View Post
    I'm guessing the best alternatives would be either the Voigtlander 21/4 or the Pentax SMC-M 20/4 for small, good and not too pricey. The Oly 21/2 would probably be a decent option as well at a price not much lower than the Zeiss.
    I wanted the 20 f/1.7 for a fast standard. The f/4 won't suit me. That puts me back with my Canon setup and means the G1 becomes less useful to me unless I can find a reasonably priced faster normal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mawz View Post
    I'm guessing the best alternatives would be either the Voigtlander 21/4 or the Pentax SMC-M 20/4 for small, good and not too pricey. The Oly 21/2 would probably be a decent option as well at a price not much lower than the Zeiss.
    Thank you for the suggestions. But, there is always a but..., I don't want an f/4 lens. I want a reasonably fast normal. At least an f/2 lens.
    I have owned the OM21/2 and I didn't regret selling it. Even on the relaxed Canon 5D it is pretty soft at f/2 and f/2.8, decent at f/4.

    Quote Originally Posted by Diane B View Post
    I wanted the 20 f/1.7 for a fast standard. The f/4 won't suit me. That puts me back with my Canon setup and means the G1 becomes less useful to me unless I can find a reasonably priced faster normal.
    Diane
    I completely agree.

    Is there a good 24mm M-mount lens that is fast? Or is the Voigtländer 28/2 the closest we can get?

    regards, /Jonas

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    Jonas, I'm looking at a quite inexpensive FD 24 f/2.8--but still not as fast as I'd like--but I might consider it. I'm going to look at the Voigtlander also.

    Diane

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    Re: G1 to Canon FD adapter article...

    my 21 is the 4.5 which i realize is too slow for most but i can live with it.

    but i really do want a small, sharp and reasonably fast lens as well.

    not till autumn...damn!

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    Quote Originally Posted by back alley View Post
    my 21 is the 4.5 which i realize is too slow for most but i can live with it.

    but i really do want a small, sharp and reasonably fast lens as well.

    not till autumn...damn!

    You said it. I was expecting it to be one of the first since they don't have a fast lens at any FL--but.....

    Diane

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    Re: G1 to Canon FD adapter article...

    Oly Pen F 20/3.5 Tiny!

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    Re: G1 to Canon FD adapter article...

    i would have thought the prime would be the easiest of all to build well and therefore be out of the gate first.

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    Re: G1 to Canon FD adapter article...

    Mo' money in the 7-14.

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    Re: G1 to Canon FD adapter article...

    my 21 is the 4.5 which i realize is too slow for most but i can live with it.
    I have a 21mm/2.8 Kobalux (sold as Avenon in Japan and under a few other brand names in other countries) and find it to be a great lens. But you may find one difficult to locate.

    Attachment 11377

    Here is a picture on the M8. I have not tried it on the G1 yet.

    Currently, there is one on ebay, but the $950 asking price seems rather high. On ebay, $500-800 for a good one seems more in line with market trends if you are patient enough. Here some links:

    http://www.cameraquest.com/koba21.htm
    http://www.dantestella.com/technical/kobalux.html

    http://cgi.ebay.com/Kobalux-21-2-8-LSM-95857-Minty_W0QQitemZ270284239182QQcmdZViewItemQQptZCame ra_Lenses?hash=item270284239182&_trksid=p3286.c0.m 14&_trkparms=72%3A1234|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3 A1318|301%3A1|293%3A1|294%3A50
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    Re: G1 to Canon FD adapter article...

    For a fast(ish) normal lens which supports CDAF, the ZD 25mm f2.8 seems to be the best option at the moment.

    The ZD 11-22mm f2.8-3.5 is currently the fastest wide option available - though on the large side for the G1.

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    Re: G1 to Canon FD adapter article...

    Another fun wide angle is the 16mm/2.8 Zenitar. Basically a Fish eye, the central area used on the G1 shows practically no noticeable distortion. You get it on ebay for $200-250

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    Re: G1 to Canon FD adapter article...

    Brian, you mention the 14-140 is on track for early 09, any hint on pricing yet.

    Mark.

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    How about the ZM 21/2.8 as an effective 42mm normal on the G1? That's what I'm thinking. Yes, pricey, but great wide open performance over the entire 2X field. A little heavy at 300g.

    My complaint is that its not as simple as getting a G1 to use my M 28mm and 50mm lenses. I have to have a $200 adapter, and consider a wider lens like the ZM 21, because of the 2X crop.

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    Re: G1 to Canon FD adapter article...

    Olympus G Zuiko Auto W 20/3.5 for Pen F, 145 grams plus maybe ~50 grams for a Pen F adapter (about a 10mm extension.) KEH has the lens in EX for $325.

    Commercial Pen F adapters in March for about $100.

    Since an adapter is required, might as well pick up a 38/1.8 too. $62 at KEH. And what the heck, how about 100/3.5 for $89 in EX condition?

    Excellent glass, and all tiny and lightweight (135g for the 38, 250g for the 100mm.)

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    Re: G1 to Canon FD adapter article...

    i want to be clear that i am ok with my 21/4.5, it's small and incredibly sharp. the 4.5 works fine outdoors where i do 99% of my shooting.
    i already have the lens so my only added expense was the adapter.
    i also have the 25/2.8 if i want faster.

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    Joe, those are fine lenses. I really like the compact ZMs. I had a 35/2 ZM but sold it, if I got another I'd get the 35/2.8.

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    Re: G1 to Canon FD adapter article...

    Quote Originally Posted by mark1000 View Post
    Brian, you mention the 14-140 is on track for early 09, any hint on pricing yet.

    Mark.
    Mark, you know everything I do at the moment - I guess we'll get the prices and e.t.a. for sure before PMA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian Mosley View Post
    Mark, you know everything I do at the moment - I guess we'll get the prices and e.t.a. for sure before PMA.

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    Brian
    Sorry Brian, had a feeling you had some inside info.

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    Re: G1 to Canon FD adapter article...

    Mark, I'd hate to be that useless to you

    Anything I can find out, I'll let you know

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