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    This is not sooo good for small screens. A pano from the inner of Sicily. In the middle, a little left, you can see the famous Corleone !!

    The original Pano is by 10x larger and will find its place on my wall in the livingroom...

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    Found this wonderful and very old machine. Guess what it is for ???

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    Quote Originally Posted by kweide View Post
    Found this wonderful and very old machine. Guess what it is for ???
    Making ice cream.
    Or maybe washing your SD cards My wife recently put one of mine through a complete wash and dry cycle. The pictures seem to have better resolution, but there again I always think my car goes faster after it has been washed.

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    After polishing my Audi it is alway 20 KM/h faster
    after washing my 8 GB SD Card i found it can store 12 GB with the E-P1 and it has indeed 24 MPixel resolution. I can confirm that !!!
    Something is going on !

    Ahhh, forgot to say:
    The machine: It is a number cruncher !
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    Quote Originally Posted by kweide View Post
    After polishing my Audi it is alway 20 KM/h faster
    after washing my 8 GB SD Card i found it can store 12 GB with the E-P1 and it has indeed 24 MPixel resolution. I can confirm that !!!
    Something is going on !

    Ahhh, forgot to say:
    The machine: It is a number cruncher !
    It doesn't have any buttons! - how do you put the numbers in? Or do you mean old brass house numbers and the machine recycles them
    It's a good way for you to calculate your DOF when in the field - looks like it is as small as the EP-1

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    Number input is easy:
    1. way: the crank is digitally coded. It is binary input by powers of 2. 1 stop right is 2 three stops right ist 2 and so on.
    2. way: squeak interface. By turning the crank you produce corresponding tones similar to a telephon. Very easy. The tricky thing is the modulation. You have to train a bit
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    Again, not sooo good for small screens.
    The org. file is by far 10 x larger and ideal for the wall.
    It shows the view from lovely Erice and gives you the coastline from Sicily from Trapani via Pizzo Lungo, Bonagia and Monte Cofano. I love this place on Erice.
    If you ever have the chance to visit Sicily: This place is a must go

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    Re: G1?...we don't need no stinking G1/Picture thread

    Quote Originally Posted by kweide View Post
    Again, not sooo good for small screens.
    The org. file is by far 10 x larger and ideal for the wall.
    It shows the view from lovely Erice and gives you the coastline from Sicily from Trapani via Pizzo Lungo, Bonagia and Monte Cofano. I love this place on Erice.
    If you ever have the chance to visit Sicily: This place is a must go

    This one is a stunner if I've ever seen one! It will look amazing on the wall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kweide View Post
    Number input is easy:
    1. way: the crank is digitally coded. It is binary input by powers of 2. 1 stop right is 2 three stops right ist 2 and so on.
    2. way: squeak interface. By turning the crank you produce corresponding tones similar to a telephon. Very easy. The tricky thing is the modulation. You have to train a bit
    If you take it in the field to do DOF calculation, you had better not be doing sports photography
    How come it is so rusty - when was it made? Does it come with a book of instructions?
    Still looks to me that you could make ice cream in there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kweide View Post
    Found this wonderful and very old machine. Guess what it is for ???

    Smells like fresh coffee, I'll bet.

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    Yes, yes, yes. Its true
    I can smell it too. Its for coffee !!
    Its from the year 1800 or so.... very old but still working. Family treasure...
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    And if you like the Espresso coffee... you will ike some sweets...

    oh no, this is unfair.... stop that....uhhh sweet Ricotta cheese....hmmmm

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    Dont like it ? No prob...
    Eat this...

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    As a new member to the forum I absolutely love this thread and the wonderful images.
    Imagine my joy at starting to view the thread from the beginning and coming across a pic of my all-time favourite songwriter/producer Jimmy Webb with Lili's Roy in post 34 ...that aside I adore Klaus's contributions with his E-P1 and as a newish G1 owner I'm tempted to be a pen owner too...I'm trying to convince myself...and more importantly...my better half that I need another camera and that I'll use my recently bought (for a song on the "bay") OM lenses on it via the adaptor

    Klaus, can you confirm most of the latter images in this thread were indeed taken with the E-P1?...I'm not saying the others aren't as good but you do seem to get the best out of it...do you up the saturation or do much PP before posting here?
    Thanks for sharing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kweide View Post
    Yes, yes, yes. Its true
    I can smell it too. Its for coffee !!
    Its from the year 1800 or so.... very old but still working. Family treasure...
    I can smell it too - smells like rust. Better put a quart of ice cream though there before you try coffee.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JayCee View Post
    As a new member to the forum I absolutely love this thread and the wonderful images.
    Imagine my joy at starting to view the thread from the beginning and coming across a pic of my all-time favourite songwriter/producer Jimmy Webb with Lili's Roy in post 34 ...that aside I adore Klaus's contributions with his E-P1 and as a newish G1 owner I'm tempted to be a pen owner too...I'm trying to convince myself...and more importantly...my better half that I need another camera and that I'll use my recently bought (for a song on the "bay") OM lenses on it via the adaptor

    Klaus, can you confirm most of the latter images in this thread were indeed taken with the E-P1?...I'm not saying the others aren't as good but you do seem to get the best out of it...do you up the saturation or do much PP before posting here?
    Thanks for sharing.
    John.
    John,

    all my pics in this thread are made with Olympus cameras and different Oly or Leica glasses.
    You asked for confirmation on E-P1 pics. Okay. My reference is the number shown in the upper right corner in the resp. contribution of this thread.
    My E-P1 pics started on Page 10 and are:
    # 458, 459, 460, 461, 462, 463, 464, 465, 466, 467, 468, 469, 471, 473, 474, 475, 476, 477, 478, 479, 480, 481, 487, 493, 496, 501, 507, 512, 513

    All except one are made with the Kitlens Zoom 14-42. Simply because no other lens was available from Olympus. The one exception was done with Leica Summicron R 90 F2. Its the flower picture

    And yes i normaly do a little pp. But it depends on the pic itself. A little level adjust and sometimes a little contrast. Dont forget USM !!!!
    Thats it.
    Some more detailed explantions can be found in my Thread "My lovely GRD"
    http://forum.getdpi.com/forum/showth...ely+grd&page=3
    Scroll down please to see the Before and after !
    But, when you already own a G1 is it really neccessary buying a E-P1 too ???
    Perhaps its better to invest the money into good glasses ???

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    How does the G1 stand up to powdered sugar?
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    Perhaps its better to invest the money into good glasses ???
    If I may be so bold ...

    Klaus, "glasses" in English, although the plural of "glass" is at first recognized in a sentence as the equivalent of "spectacles" = "Brille" in German.

    I'm sure you meant to say/write: " ... invest the money in good glass".
    The word "glass" here is a popular photographers' interpretation of "lenses" which as you see is already a plural.

    The way you wrote it implies the gentleman could benefit from better aid for his eyesight.

    Your photographical "syntax" is perfect however

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    Upps. thanx a lot. Will use glass, lens, primes, zoom or even sherd in the future....
    BTW i use glasses

    John: my fault !!!
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    Re: G1?...we don't need no stinking G1/Picture thread

    Quote Originally Posted by kweide View Post
    Again, not sooo good for small screens.
    The org. file is by far 10 x larger and ideal for the wall.
    It shows the view from lovely Erice and gives you the coastline from Sicily from Trapani via Pizzo Lungo, Bonagia and Monte Cofano. I love this place on Erice.
    If you ever have the chance to visit Sicily: This place is a must go

    What a stunning capture! shame about the hands

    Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian Mosley View Post
    What a stunning capture! shame about the hands

    Cheers

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    Yet I liked them. Gives a perspective.

    There's always photoshop

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian Mosley View Post
    What a stunning capture! shame about the hands

    Cheers

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    Don't agree. It lifts it above a more regular pano by adding some human perspective.

    It is a stunning pano indeed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kweide View Post
    Upps. thanx a lot. Will use glass, lens, primes, zoom or even sherd in the future....
    BTW i use glasses

    John: my fault !!!
    Please pardon me....
    Hey Klaus, I think at some point in his life m3photo must have be in academia - probably teaching English - not that there is anything wrong with that

    Keith
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    Re: academia

    Quote Originally Posted by woodmancy View Post
    Hey Klaus, I think at some point in his life m3photo must have be in academia - probably teaching English - not that there is anything wrong with that

    Keith
    Guilty as charged
    No, nothing wrong at all. It's just that I discovered that aerial photography is somewhat more, shall we say, "rewarding".

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    My goal was indeed to create a pano which links from left ( the wallparts ) to the right ( the hands ) ,creates a vibrant relationship and creates the vision:
    I am in the scene !!
    I hoped it ( wall and hands ) would help the viewer to position in the middle of the pano and just let him look as if it were real.

    Did i fail ??

    Oh, please see the owner of the hands:

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    Erice
    A beautiful place,
    I took the woman who I convinced to marry me to this place on our first date.
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    Bob,

    did you enjoy the Genovese ?
    The best one from here:
    Pasticceria del Convento
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    Fine art from Erice, hand made. Even the paintings
    Yes, E-P1

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    Re: G1?...we don't need no stinking G1/Picture thread

    Quote Originally Posted by kweide View Post
    My goal was indeed to create a pano which links from left ( the wallparts ) to the right ( the hands ) ,creates a vibrant relationship and creates the vision:
    I am in the scene !!
    I hoped it ( wall and hands ) would help the viewer to position in the middle of the pano and just let him look as if it were real.

    Did i fail ??
    Of course you didn't fail I would have liked to see more of the person, and/or a version without the hands... but that's my personal imho

    Nothing detracts from the stunning view and your usual postprocessing magic

    Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by kweide View Post
    And yes i normaly do a little pp. But it depends on the pic itself. A little level adjust and sometimes a little contrast. Dont forget USM !!!!
    Thats it.
    Some more detailed explantions can be found in my Thread "My lovely GRD"
    http://forum.getdpi.com/forum/showth...ely+grd&page=3
    Scroll down please to see the Before and after !
    Thanks for that info and the link to your earlier threads Klaus,
    The before and after shots are amazing ...I didn't realise software could improve an image to that degree...I should have Photoshop on my MacBook Pro in a few days and will experiment with some Raw files from my G1.
    I note in that thread you stated...

    "From ISO 400 :
    contrast +2 and saturation -2 in camera setting. I stored them as 2. Setting. Leave the rest to 0.
    You will get a flat looking picture but with all details remaining. All you have to do is: Let it pop out. First let a noise removal software run over the pic. I use NOISEWARE in automatic mode so it profiles each picture. It will NOT remove all noisegrain. You will see some grain will stay in the picture but that is ok. In Photoshop ( or whatever you like ) add contrast and colors as you like and add USM. Sometimes i use to add Contrast with soft light in combination, but this is only my taste... Its a few seconds work. Resize the pic to its needed size and RESHARPEN again. Use the simple SHARPEN command in Photoshop or whatever you use and watch the deatils to come up"

    Although these settings were for the GRD do you suggest the same for contrast and saturation on the G1 as well if shooting at high ISO?
    In post 124 of the same thread...

    "Settings for GRD : 150 / 0.8 / 0"

    What do these figures refer to within Photoshop?...what parameters?
    Sorry for all the questions...I am new to PP and will check out some tutorials.

    Quote Originally Posted by kweide View Post
    But, when you already own a G1 is it really neccessary buying a E-P1 too ???
    Perhaps its better to invest the money into good glasses ???Klaus
    I know, I know, I don't need another camera but an E-P1 is crying out to me...buy me, hold me ...I find it's retro style very appealing and the images from it posted on this forum by yourself and others have convinced me what is under it's hood is very good.

    One other thing...your shooting technique...I notice a lot of your people pictures subjects aren't posed and a lot of them aren't aware they're being snapped...do you prefocus and shoot at waist level with a small aperture for max DOF?
    Sorry for all the questions but I love your style and find it inspirational.
    John.

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    John

    i think it is not a good idea to port GRD settings 1:1 to other cams. I cannot talk about any setting regarding G1 simply because i dont have one !
    But to answer: my style is different. I love to see details, i love to have sharp details and yes i love small DOF as well. You can see that in my flower pics in the thread. I believe it is better to do contrast-, saturation- and sharpness-settings better in Software and not automatically done by the cam. If the automatic fails the pic is ruined. That is a fact. You can recover to an extend but not in total. So it is better to keep the responsibility up to YOU, the photographer.
    The JPG Engine of the E-P1 is fantastic. RAW not always needed only in some cricitcal light situations. So you can count on that. Saturation and contrast are, thats my taste, a bit too strong. I prefer a flat image to have enough room for PP. When you start leave all values "0". You will see that it is often better to dial -1 sharpness or -2 contrast. It depends on the situation and is always a combination of multiple factors. E.G. disableing NOISE reduction should be followed by -1 or -2 sharpness. Otherwise you may see some oversharpening in the picture. What i mean: Try different setting to find out what YOU LIKE.

    What does this mean ?
    Settings for GRD : 150 / 0.8 / 0. That values are for the Unsharp Mask in CS3. It is amount/radius/treshold. You will find it easily in CS3 or CS4 in the Menue.

    On the street dont be trapped or get punished. ) and it is important to be able to take a shot within a second. Both facts leads the photographer to a planning session: "What do i want to snap today ?" The zoo ??? Go with the pocket cam and the kids.
    The life in the streets ?? Oh, what distance to the objects ?? Light conditions ??? Weather ??? Flash ???
    YES i preinstall my cam. I do prefocus to the main shooting distance and chosse an aperture which delivers sharpness up to infinity. Thats why i prefer wideangle lenses Apertue 8 and distance set to 3 Meters gives my a the DOF i want and need. Auto or high ( 800 or higher ) ISO and A-Priority are the clue. Prefocus means NO AF and gives you SPEEEEEED. Flash is never allowed in the street.

    Shooting position is whatever you need to hide the cam: Waist, hip, behind crossed arms. But have the cam thight in you hand. When you got jostled in the crowed you will understand

    The rest is practice, practice and practice. Try the open street first. Cam in your hand, well prepared, cam with the neckstrap around your HAND with the thumb on the trigger !
    Try this:

    Attachment 20763


    Be creative. I remember when i shot with GRD i once had it around the neck. 100% visible to all but no hand ever touched the cam but i made 800 pics on the street. HOW ?? I programmed the internal GRD timer to do every some seconds one pic.....

    So, thats it....
    Have fun
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    Please, arrest me !!

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    A secret temptation

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    Quote Originally Posted by kweide View Post
    Shooting position is whatever you need to hide the cam: Waist, hip, behind crossed arms. But have the cam thight in you hand. When you got jostled in the crowed you will understand

    The rest is practice, practice and practice. Try the open street first. Cam in your hand, well prepared, cam with the neckstrap around your HAND with the thumb on the trigger !
    Be creative. I remember when i shot with GRD i once had it around the neck. 100% visible to all but no hand ever touched the cam but i made 800 pics on the street. HOW ?? I programmed the internal GRD timer to do every some seconds one pic.....
    Many thanks for those tips Klaus...technical and technique.
    The type of pictures like yours in post 532 are what I like to view...it says so much and the mood would have been ruined if they were aware of your camera.
    I remember when I first took up photography in the early eighties I was visiting the old area around "The Shambles" in the city of York with my first camera...an Olympus OM30...I was admiring the skills of a street performer playing a barrel organ and I raised my camera to eye level and was immediately aware of onlookers eyes on me and not the scene
    When I got the prints back from the processors sure enough they revealed a good proportion of the crowd looking towards the camera instead of the street performer spoiling the image for me.
    Your tips will come in handy when I get my new E-P1...I see you have the white version
    John.

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    Thus the need for better AF performance !!

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    Please, arrest me !!
    In the context of the discussion on another thread - this is a good example of where a caption or a title on the image has a positive result for the viewer.
    Kweide seems to be the master of this - but I don't want to stroke his ego - he could get complacent?

    Keith

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    ".... Thus the need for better AF performance !!"


    ... well, i hope the performance is in the minds of the viewers.....
    and will create a sharp imagination as well

    Have fun... i have !
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    Ah.... so you're telling us it's nothing more than a department store mannequin? And thus purposely out of focus...

    Well played, Sir, well played !!

    Quote Originally Posted by kweide View Post
    ".... Thus the need for better AF performance !!"


    ... well, i hope the performance is in the minds of the viewers.....
    and will create a sharp imagination as well

    Have fun... i have !
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    I asked the Madonna to allow me a second try. And friendly she was, said yes, but asked me to be quick. The guards are already on their way.... so i took the chance and the E-P1.
    I love her smile. She is smiling at me

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    Klaus,
    What do you use for editing RAW files from the E-P1?
    Does Photoshop support it?

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    Re: G1?...we don't need no stinking G1/Picture thread

    CS3 NO
    Oly Master ( included ) and Oly Studio ( 2.3 ) in the actual version do support E-P1 RAW ( prefered )
    Capture One 4.8.2 YES ( fast and good )
    Lightroom 2.4 YES
    CS4 as far as i know NO. Adobe needs to update the RAW converter. Lightroom 2.4 the same. No E-P1 RAW support

    I prefer the Oly SW for RAW development. It renders beautiful but it is soooo slow. What a luck i just have sometimes 1 or 2 RAWS. Try LSF setting and JPG.
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    Any of those support the mac?
    I use a MacBook Pro...is the OLY s/ware for Windows only, or is it mac as well?

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    I dont know ! I am a Windows one
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    Okay thanks Klaus.
    EDIT...just checked and the OLY Master is available as a free download for Win and mac from the OLY site.
    John.
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    Interesting heavy duty ND filter you are using Klaus :-)

    I have joined the E-P1 club... but ill this week so no great pics to show.... though I did make a movie :-)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldbydYA5BM4

    cheers

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    Yes Kevin, that is my Snap In ND Infinity
    LOL i watched your video. Boy thats a Camel ad....

    This is for you to enjoy:
    Fun, fast and full of vital power....

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    The truth...

    She watched me, gave my her smile and a pose and i nearly died.....
    What a fantastic charisma....
    It was just a second......this a massiv crop

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    cheers to olympus... and the good old boys

    e-p1 with 50/1.4 and 28/2 nikkors

    cheers

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    Yes, we are open. Come in !

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    Today i went to my camera store asking for the Oly adapters for E-P1. None available. Puh.... disappointing
    Frustrated i follwed my wife into one electronic store for a new coffee machine and boy what did i see ??? Panasonic DMW-MA1. Single piece, very good price and now it is at home with me.

    First Tests:

    Sigma 50 F1.4 works, even slow sometimes but fine focussing
    Zuiko Macro 50, fine
    Zuiko 11-22, fantastic and really fast....
    Zuiko 7-14, beautiful...
    Zuiko 40-150 old version,, works
    Zuiko 14-54, fine...

    Wow, Olympus did a good job. All lenses did a good job, but the 11-22 was really fast. Have to check again. I am happy. Lens problem solved!
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