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    Re: M4/3 bodies: Wealth of Choice, Quandry for Me

    Quote Originally Posted by Tim View Post
    So clearly you won't ever get a Sony FF then.
    I would not say that. My main goal is to go with native lenses as much as possible and since one of my major priorities is wildlife photography I need something native in the range of 80-400, which is available as the Nikkor 80-400 VRII. I am pretty sure I do not want to go the route via any kind of adapter to mount such a lens on an FE body, not even if it supports full AF functionality, because what I read so far there are always drawbacks in some areas of use.

    But it is pretty possible that I would add an FE body like the A7rII just to be able to shoot some of the great Zeiss or Sony/Zeiss AF lenses for FE mount. I am even not willing to mount any manual native FE lenses on such a camera, simply because I prefer AF most of the times.

    We will see when the FE mount gets really mature - at least for me - by adding such lens choices natively as I require. When that happens and Nikon has no camera in their lineup which comes close to the state of the art latest FE body at these times, then I might do a major switch to FE FF. But I will most probably always keep one or the other Nikon body and some lenses. I am in no hurry and first want to see how good the FE system can perform compared to the Nikon FF system and only if this exceeds and ticks most of my boxes then it is time to switch.

    Also I am confident that we will see a Nikon D850/D900 sooner than later with either the same sensor as the A7rII or even with a more advanced one and it will be interesting to see how Nikon answers to all this FF mirrorless stuff from Sony. I am sure that they know what they are doing and that they are already cooking something nice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Godfrey View Post
    Um, Nikon FM/FM2/FM2n have a three diode readout, not a needle...
    They put the FE2's analogue needle into the FM3a. ];-)

    Yes, done for. Just ordered a D750 body...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Godfrey View Post
    Um, Nikon FM/FM2/FM2n have a three diode readout,

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    I loved the clear simplicity of the red 0, + and -.
    I used to work my FM2 bodies 'blind' inside Jacobsen sound blimps
    and those diodes were very reassuring.


    I still have the blimps in a cupboard somewhere.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Godfrey View Post
    :-)

    I'm on a cusp at the moment. I've been using FourThirds format for both personal and professional image making since 2007 and have a complete FT SLR and mFT mirrorless system at my disposal. The E-M1 and the Macro-Elmarit-DG 45mm f/are welded together for all practical purposes ... I have done so much of my tabletop/product work with just that it's astonishing.

    Yet, at the moment, of all the cameras I've got, the ones that are getting real use are my Leica X, Leica M-P, Leica M4-2, and Nikon F6, and of those mostly the M-P and the X. I'd use the Nikon more if it was digital. Why? I don't know ... I just like these cameras a lot, like how they work and how they feel in the hand, and I like the results they produce. Are the results significantly "better"? No. But using the cameras is the first necessity before getting good results, and if I always grab the M-P or the X, the E-M1 doesn't have much chance to compete.

    I'm very likely to order a D750 (very similar size/weight/ergonomics as the F6) and put the whole kit of FourThirds format gear up for sale. And finish off what I started in The Great Reduction ... sell off everything except for the Leica kit, the Nikon kit, and a couple of specialty cameras (the Voigtländer Perkeo II, Hasselblad SWC, Minox EC and C, a Polaroids or three...).

    Oh, the battles! :-)
    Sad to see you will leaving the m43 camera realm. I would surely think you would miss the IBIS from the E-M1 with excellent low light AF performance and compactness of m43 lenses.

    I suspect years down the track you may come back to m43, one day...
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    Quote Originally Posted by mazor View Post
    Sad to see you will leaving the m43 camera realm. I would surely think you would miss the IBIS from the E-M1 with excellent low light AF performance and compactness of m43 lenses.

    I suspect years down the track you may come back to m43, one day...
    I've too many times returned to stuff I sold off to ever say never. But having just passed my 61st birthday, it begins to be a question as to how many "years down the track" I want to be swapping systems around rather than just making photos, publishing the photo books, and doing the other work that I want to get done before I leave this mortal coil...

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    Re: M4/3 bodies: Wealth of Choice, Quandry for Me

    Quote Originally Posted by ptomsu View Post

    Actually not so far with the X, as I never loved the X series, but the Q could be for me, as it is FF and I like 28 very much.

    Peter
    Check Sonyalpharumors.com : there is a rumor that Leica will launch a Q body with interchangeable lens. You may like it if this get real and isn't only someone taking his wishes for the reality..
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    Re: M4/3 bodies: Wealth of Choice, Quandry for Me

    Quote Originally Posted by Godfrey View Post
    I've too many times returned to stuff I sold off to ever say never. But having just passed my 61st birthday, it begins to be a question as to how many "years down the track" I want to be swapping systems around rather than just making photos, publishing the photo books, and doing the other work that I want to get done before I leave this mortal coil... G
    Godfey, you are still a mere boy!! As a very young photo gear addict of well over three quarters of a century, I feel that I can express that to you. I am still reading camera and lens reviews and buying when I need to upgrade and sell older stuff. At the moment I still love using my E-M1 cameras and mZuiko lenses but if the Mk 2 offers a leap forward, then why not. Now that new Leica rumour is extremely interesting...!
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    Re: M4/3 bodies: Wealth of Choice, Quandry for Me

    Quote Originally Posted by Annna T View Post
    Check Sonyalpharumors.com : there is a rumor that Leica will launch a Q body with interchangeable lens. You may like it if this get real and isn't only someone taking his wishes for the reality..
    Not sure what will really behind this mirrorless Leica system with interchangeable lenses - we will see. My fear is that it might easily get up into the price range of an M system, which will then be simply out of the reach that I want to spend. For the M I already have all the glass, so adding a digital body (once they build one which I find satisfying to buy) is relatively cheap.

    But buying into a complete new Leica system with Leica quality glass and hopefully also telephoto zoom could easily be a very expensive adventure, especially keeping in mind that it is FF.

    We will see in a few months...
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    Quote Originally Posted by dhsimmonds View Post
    Godfey, you are still a mere boy!! As a very young photo gear addict of well over three quarters of a century, I feel that I can express that to you. I am still reading camera and lens reviews and buying when I need to upgrade and sell older stuff. At the moment I still love using my E-M1 cameras and mZuiko lenses but if the Mk 2 offers a leap forward, then why not. Now that new Leica rumour is extremely interesting...!
    I feel kind of same way, and still I am looking eagerly forward to the EM1II which will hopefully bring 20-24MP so that finally I would have enough room to crop if I need. Especially just selecting 3:2 ratio from the beginning.

    WRT systems, I have been through too many switches and still I am kind of open to try if something really wonderful comes down the road

    This new Leica rumor is very tempting, but I fear the price
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