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    Olympus Air

    My Nokia 808 is starting to show its age and is in need for a replacement. My plan was to buy an LG G4, which seems to be the camera phone to have at the moment, but on the other hand I'm tired of buying expensive mobile devices that are designed to fall apart within a couple of years. So here's another idea:

    Why not buy a cheaper, like in $100-200 cheap (I actually have one already that I use with SIM cards in other countries), Android phone that will also last for 2 years and connect it with this device when good image quality is needed:

    Air A01 Smartphone Camera | Olympus

    Then I get image quality like with an E-M1 when needed, can use whatever lens I choose, including adapted lenses with a Speed Booster, lenses that can be shared with my D810. It's just 147 grams and the size of a small lens, so can be taken anywhere. A good idea?

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    yes good idea in terms of small portable IQ, but then if you are going to carry all those lenses to mount onto the air, then you may as well just carry a camera which will have more responsive controls and ergonomics.

    Speed booster optics are not light either.

    My Nokia 808 may be getting old, but it by no means showing it's age. It still is my first go to camera in my pocket when I do not have my E-M1, or when my E-M1 has a nocticron mounted, and need an wider field of view.

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    It looks like a fun camera/gadget, but I am resistant to buying more stuff. I'd probably find it fun for a week, and then it will sit in my drawer like too many other things. I'm already selling massive lots of stuff like this ... my goal is to not buy those things in the first place now.

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    Re: Olympus Air

    The 808 restarts itself at least once per day, and sometimes it hangs like forever. I delivered it to Nokia for a complete reset and upgrade, but it was only good for a few months.

    I agree that there might be too many components for this to be an ideal solution. I consider other ways around this too, like a Nikon Coolpix A (cheap now), Ricoh GR, Ricoh GXR (very cheap now) or Pana GM1. I'm in no hurry, so we'll see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Godfrey View Post
    It looks like a fun camera/gadget, but I am resistant to buying more stuff. I'd probably find it fun for a week, and then it will sit in my drawer like too many other things. I'm already selling massive lots of stuff like this ... my goal is to not buy those things in the first place now.

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    I agree, and maybe this just evaporates. Time will show

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    That does not sound good. I guess there is a reason why some 808 fans end up with more than one 808, just in case one fails.

    Have you considered a Sony RX100 iii or the new iv? This camera is more compact than the air, and is pocket able without the need for attaching additional lenses. The Ricoh GR is a very nice fixed lens camera with a APS-C sensor. Although compact, it is no where as compact as the RX100 series.

    The GXR looks again is not so pocketable but does have excellent controls, and can be alot of fun interchanging both the lens and sensor. The highly regarded GXR A12 M mount module is a brilliant performer and is a good starting point torwards getting a Leica M camera

    GM1, sounds like an ideal compact solution with ability to mount m43. While nice, one can also consider the LX100, which has a built in fast aperture zoom that will be more compact than a GM1 with an equivalent fast aperture zoom attached.

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    Thanks for the pointer Jorgen.

    First time I have looked at it.

    I echo the post about size/weight of the pro lenses. My 12-40 lens weighs the same as my E-M5 body if you take out the battery. I can't see much point in carrying an Air without a zoom attached.

    However, there are times when people need a tethered situation. Pack shots, portraits, etc. I wonder if working an Air with a tablet or iPad might have a use for some photographers?

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    Re: Olympus Air

    Quote Originally Posted by Tonygamble View Post
    Thanks for the pointer Jorgen.

    First time I have looked at it.

    I echo the post about size/weight of the pro lenses. My 12-40 lens weighs the same as my E-M5 body if you take out the battery. I can't see much point in carrying an Air without a zoom attached.

    However, there are times when people need a tethered situation. Pack shots, portraits, etc. I wonder if working an Air with a tablet or iPad might have a use for some photographers?

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    One of the cool things with it is that it's wireless, making it possible to hold the camera at whatever angle necessary while seeing the subject on the phone. Rather cool. With a price of $300, I guess I'll buy one anyway and see how useful it is. Can't hurt, can it?

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    Re: Olympus Air

    Quote Originally Posted by mazor View Post
    That does not sound good. I guess there is a reason why some 808 fans end up with more than one 808, just in case one fails.

    Have you considered a Sony RX100 iii or the new iv? This camera is more compact than the air, and is pocket able without the need for attaching additional lenses. The Ricoh GR is a very nice fixed lens camera with a APS-C sensor. Although compact, it is no where as compact as the RX100 series.

    The GXR looks again is not so pocketable but does have excellent controls, and can be alot of fun interchanging both the lens and sensor. The highly regarded GXR A12 M mount module is a brilliant performer and is a good starting point torwards getting a Leica M camera

    GM1, sounds like an ideal compact solution with ability to mount m43. While nice, one can also consider the LX100, which has a built in fast aperture zoom that will be more compact than a GM1 with an equivalent fast aperture zoom attached.
    A friend of mine bought the RX100 III. To fragile for me, particularly the pop-up finder, and I would have to cut off a couple of fingers to make it fit my hand. The GR and Coolpix A are typically cameras that would fit in a belt bag, and the image quality is great from both.

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    not familiar with the coolpix a, but in the past Nikon have not made exceptional point and shoot digicam. In my opinion I would prefer the GR over the Nikon.

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    Wonder how the Olympus air compares with the likes of the Sony QX1? They both have the same concept design, one for Emount APS-C and the other m43.

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    Re: Olympus Air

    Quote Originally Posted by Jorgen Udvang View Post
    One of the cool things with it is that it's wireless, making it possible to hold the camera at whatever angle necessary while seeing the subject on the phone. Rather cool. With a price of $300, I guess I'll buy one anyway and see how useful it is. Can't hurt, can it?
    I find this concept interesting, especially coupled with a pancake lens, like the Panasonics 14mm or 20mm, not sure about the pancakes zooms (IQ ?). But my main concern is that one would need three hands to manage such a system : one to hold the AIR, one to hold the phone and one to manage the controls on the phone. Good luck in achieving precise framing and avoiding motion blur.

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    one would need three hands

    With a pancake you might be able to clip the device to the phone if the promo is to believed?

    I would not trust that clip with my 12-40 700UKP zoom though.

    My suggestion about using it with a tablet was presuming one would have the tablet on a table. Hold the lens in one hand and work the tablet with the other.

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    I wonder how it would work with the BCL 15 and BCL 9 Fisheye lenses ... ?

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    Re: Olympus Air

    Quote Originally Posted by Annna T View Post
    I find this concept interesting, especially coupled with a pancake lens, like the Panasonics 14mm or 20mm, not sure about the pancakes zooms (IQ ?). But my main concern is that one would need three hands to manage such a system : one to hold the AIR, one to hold the phone and one to manage the controls on the phone. Good luck in achieving precise framing and avoiding motion blur.
    When the phone is clipped to the lens, one is supposed to hold it by the lens I suppose, so only two hands needed. One needs two hands to take photos with a phone anyway. Smartphones are not designed for humans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mazor View Post
    Wonder how the Olympus air compares with the likes of the Sony QX1? They both have the same concept design, one for Emount APS-C and the other m43.
    I have seen a few reviews of the QX1, and what most people complain about is speed. Not so fast maximum shutter speed at 1/4,000s, only 3.5 fps and an eternity from a shot is taken till the camera is ready for the next one. The Olympus can do 1/16,000s and 10 fps. None of them feature IBIS, but for Olympus, there are Panasonic lenses with OIS available. The 12-32mm f/3.5-5.6 and 35-100mm f/4-5.6 are both tiny and of very good optical quality. 70 and 135g respectively, which results in a camera with stabilised lenses from 24-200mm (35mm eqv.) at under 400 gram plus the phone.

    The obvious alternative is the GM5, which has an EVF, but that is considerably more expensive. One advantage the Air has over any alternative is obviously that it's always online, so that photos can be shared immediately.

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    Re: Olympus Air

    My interest in this gizmo is getting stronger as I read more about it. It may actually be worth picking one up to experiment with...
    Here's info on the software/hardware development kit: TOOLS - OPC Hack & Make Project
    And here's Engadget talking about it ... Engadget | The Olympus Air lens camera can be yours for $300
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jorgen Udvang View Post
    I have seen a few reviews of the QX1, and what most people complain about is speed. Not so fast maximum shutter speed at 1/4,000s, only 3.5 fps and an eternity from a shot is taken till the camera is ready for the next one. The Olympus can do 1/16,000s and 10 fps. None of them feature IBIS, but for Olympus, there are Panasonic lenses with OIS available. The 12-32mm f/3.5-5.6 and 35-100mm f/4-5.6 are both tiny and of very good optical quality. 70 and 135g respectively, which results in a camera with stabilised lenses from 24-200mm (35mm eqv.) at under 400 gram plus the phone.

    The obvious alternative is the GM5, which has an EVF, but that is considerably more expensive. One advantage the Air has over any alternative is obviously that it's always online, so that photos can be shared immediately.
    hmm, sony Emount lenses do sport image stabilization. even the pancake 16-50mm has stabilization. guess 1/16000 shutter speed is impressive, but that via an electronic shutter. Is there an option for mechanical shutter as well in the air? How does this full electronic shutter perform for action or fast panning?

    In my opinion, if the GM5 supports the Oly share app, then it is equally as connected or online as the air. the only difference is the air has no viewfinder, or ergonomic physical controls.

    For the good price of $300, I think the air is quite worth it as a toy to play with. can you imagine mounting the nocticron onto the air and going for a shoot.

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    Re: Olympus Air

    Quote Originally Posted by mazor View Post
    hmm, sony Emount lenses do sport image stabilization. even the pancake 16-50mm has stabilization. guess 1/16000 shutter speed is impressive, but that via an electronic shutter. Is there an option for mechanical shutter as well in the air? How does this full electronic shutter perform for action or fast panning?

    In my opinion, if the GM5 supports the Oly share app, then it is equally as connected or online as the air. the only difference is the air has no viewfinder, or ergonomic physical controls.

    For the good price of $300, I think the air is quite worth it as a toy to play with. can you imagine mounting the nocticron onto the air and going for a shoot.
    The low price is obviously part of the trick with this camera. Noctitron, no, but the earlier mentioned Panasonic combo or a Zuiko 12/25/45mm trio would work very well I think.

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    I can see myself using it when I have an art director with a specific shot in mind.

    They can fiddle around with the camera until they have the shot they want on my tablet - and I'll simply press the button.

    I tend to use my Sigma Merrills for that sort of shoot normally but I'll happily forgo the extra quality for the pleasure of letting the art director do their own framing and positioning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mazor View Post
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    In my opinion, if the GM5 supports the Oly share app, then it is equally as connected or online as the air. the only difference is the air has no viewfinder, or ergonomic physical controls....
    The most important difference is that the Olympus Air can be custom programmed if you have that need for a customized use. And I know of no way to remotely control a zoom setting on the GM1 or GM5.

    To me, the Air is an inexpensive, highly customizable process camera. It's not a general purpose piece of equipment the way the GM1/GM5 are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Godfrey View Post
    The most important difference is that the Olympus Air can be custom programmed if you have that need for a customized use. And I know of no way to remotely control a zoom setting on the GM1 or GM5.

    To me, the Air is an inexpensive, highly customizable process camera. It's not a general purpose piece of equipment the way the GM1/GM5 are.

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    Oh did not know that So I assume the OA.Central app has far better controls for creativity than the standard Oly Share app for OMD?

    Also, did not know that power zoom lenses could be remote controlled with the air. This is a huge bonus.

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    I was interested for some video work till I found it had no IBIS.
    Perhaps a choice to keep power consumption and costs down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mazor View Post
    Oh did not know that So I assume the OA.Central app has far better controls for creativity than the standard Oly Share app for OMD?
    Also, did not know that power zoom lenses could be remote controlled with the air. This is a huge bonus.
    I can't do much with it yet to discover features since I don't have an Air just yet...

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    Re: Olympus Air

    Quote Originally Posted by Tim View Post
    I was interested for some video work till I found it had no IBIS.
    Perhaps a choice to keep power consumption and costs down.
    Lack of IBIS will keep me away too!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by dhsimmonds View Post
    Lack of IBIS will keep me away too!!
    Hmm. My Leica X doesn't have IBIS and I shoot from the hip with it quite a lot of the time with good results... ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Godfrey View Post
    Hmm. My Leica X doesn't have IBIS and I shoot from the hip with it quite a lot of the time with good results... ??

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    Double hmmm... none of my cameras have IBIS.

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    ;-)

    Well, I ordered one. I have a couple of small projects that it might prove the ideal gizmo to use: a dedicated copy camera for MF negative capture, for use with BCL 15/9mm lenses, video clips with 14-42EZ and 40-150 lenses. I figure it's cheaper than the Nikon 180mm f/2.8 ED-IF AF-D I just received...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Godfrey View Post
    Hmm. My Leica X doesn't have IBIS and I shoot from the hip with it quite a lot of the time with good results... ??

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    In my experience the IBIS made good results a lot better. Unless using a steadycam device or tripod I would only shoot with IBIS, I hate shake.
    You don't know what you are missing if you dont have it.
    You could use IBIS integrated lenses as a option but thats a bit limited. A used or clearout EM5 is not much more that this thing so still not for me.

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    Re: Olympus Air

    "La netteté est un concept bourgeois"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tim View Post
    In my experience the IBIS made good results a lot better. Unless using a steadycam device or tripod I would only shoot with IBIS, I hate shake.
    You don't know what you are missing if you dont have it.
    You could use IBIS integrated lenses as a option but thats a bit limited. A used or clearout EM5 is not much more that this thing so still not for me.
    I have both an E-M1 and an E-PL7, with lots of image stabilization. The Air is for different purposes. :-)

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    A used or clearout EM5

    Can you drive it from a tablet, Tim?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tonygamble View Post
    A used or clearout EM5

    Can you drive it from a tablet, Tim?

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    Here is where these things turn into my use / your use.
    I don't care if it works from a tablet. I actually don't own a tablet so that would be added expense putting it far past other options.
    I looked at it purely for a low cost video option from my phone. For ME, no use.
    Don't mistake me for someone who is bagging the thing. I think its great.
    I even thought about a low cost steady cam rig with it.
    If it works for you go for it.

    I'm out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jorgen Udvang View Post
    "La netteté est un concept bourgeois"

    HCB

    But shake is not!

    Don't worry, I have a wife who speaks French

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    Back to my question to you, Tim.

    A used or clearout EM5

    Can you drive it from a tablet, Tim?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tonygamble View Post
    Back to my question to you, Tim.

    A used or clearout EM5

    Can you drive it from a tablet, Tim?

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    Can't help you Tony, don't know, Irrelevant question to me
    You'll have to look that one up

    BTW: you can drive a GR II from a tablet. Does that help?
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    Thanks Tim.

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    Re: Olympus Air

    Quote Originally Posted by Tonygamble View Post
    Back to my question to you, Tim.

    A used or clearout EM5

    Can you drive it from a tablet, Tim?

    Tony
    The E-M5 unlike the E-M5II offers no wifi connection. You can try to put a wifi SD card in it, like the Flash Air (there us a menu option allowing you to activate and deactivate that card option). I have tried it but it doesn't work as easily as the integrated wifi on the mkII. The connection isn't easy to establish and falls easily.

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    Thanks Anna,

    I use Eye-Fi with my E-M5 and find it works well. I also have the three Sigma Merrills and use Eye-Fi with them a lot.

    Reading this Air thread has got me interested because I'm getting less supple and felt the device would bring back some flexibility to my camera angles.

    I've done the sums on upgrading to the M5 v2 and trading the v1. Compared with the Air they don't make sense if all I want is the wifi to tablet link.

    As of today I feel inclined to wait until I can get an Air in the UK.

    Thanks for your ideas and your help.

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    Re: Olympus Air

    Quote Originally Posted by Tonygamble View Post
    Thanks Anna,

    I use Eye-Fi with my E-M5 and find it works well. I also have the three Sigma Merrills and use Eye-Fi with them a lot.

    Reading this Air thread has got me interested because I'm getting less supple and felt the device would bring back some flexibility to my camera angles.

    I've done the sums on upgrading to the M5 v2 and trading the v1. Compared with the Air they don't make sense if all I want is the wifi to tablet link.

    As of today I feel inclined to wait until I can get an Air in the UK.

    Thanks for your ideas and your help.

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    I'm not sure that you can get more with a flash air card than with the eyefi card : I think that you can transfer pictures, but I don't think you can use the Olympus apps in order to use the E-M5 remotely. The software on the SD cards aren't made by Olympus, unlike the WIFI of the E-M5II. THE Olympus menu just allows you to activate or deactivate the card in order to save battery, at least this is what I understood. I had an eye-Fi card to (the name was escaping me).

    However other Olympus bodies offer WIFI (some of the last E-Pl and if I remember correctly the E-M10?)

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    Thanks Anna,

    However other Olympus bodies offer WIFI

    Indeed and on the DPReview forum they are suggesting that the GM1 might actually be more pocketable than the Air - and cheaper.

    I looked at the GM1 and tablet wifi display. What seemed a shame was that the image only covered half the screen - the controls being the other half. I'd not want that. I'd want most of the screen to be the image.

    My gut reaction reading these Air posts is that what people like is the fact that the wifi software is almost open source and thus will enable developers to produce variations for people with various needs.

    You seriously tempted me to swop my E-M5 for the version 2. But that would simply to get wifi as, for everything else the version 1 does what I want. Now my thoughts are to wait for the Air as I think the software will be smarter and wider ranging.

    But thanks for removing my blinkers. That, for me, is what these forums so often can do.

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    Re: Olympus Air

    Quote Originally Posted by Tonygamble View Post
    Thanks Anna,

    However other Olympus bodies offer WIFI

    Indeed and on the DPReview forum they are suggesting that the GM1 might actually be more pocketable than the Air - and cheaper.

    I looked at the GM1 and tablet wifi display. What seemed a shame was that the image only covered half the screen - the controls being the other half. I'd not want that. I'd want most of the screen to be the image.

    My gut reaction reading these Air posts is that what people like is the fact that the wifi software is almost open source and thus will enable developers to produce variations for people with various needs.

    You seriously tempted me to swop my E-M5 for the version 2. But that would simply to get wifi as, for everything else the version 1 does what I want. Now my thoughts are to wait for the Air as I think the software will be smarter and wider ranging.

    But thanks for removing my blinkers. That, for me, is what these forums so often can do.

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    Check for other cheaper Olympus bodies : other have WIFI and all will offer the same sensor and same AF and AF speed. It may cost you less to keep the E-M5 and get a back up body at reduced price than upgrading your E-M5, especially if the only thing you want is WIFI.

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    My gut reaction reading these Air posts is that what people like is the fact that the wifi software is almost open source and thus will enable developers to produce variations for people with various needs.
    The E-M1, E-M5II, E-M10, E-P5, E-PMx and later (can't remember which one), and E-PL7 and later all support WiFi in-camera and remote operation using the O.I.Share app, which allows a good deal of settings manipulation and capabilities. It's very easy to use. (I haven't yet used a Panasonic model with WiFi, but from what I've been told their control app is pretty similar.)

    The Air is a different order of camera. It is essentially a lens mount (with all control protocols) and sensor, built in battery, and WiFi/Bluetooth interface - all the controls are supplied by the external app. The OA.Central app supports more controls than OIShare does because, well, it has to—it's the only way to control the camera.

    Saying the GM5 is almost the same or better ignores the fact that the GM5 is designed to be a standalone camera that can be controlled remotely, where the Air is designed to be an exclusively remote-controlled camera unit. Neither is better or worse; it's just a matter of which one suits what you have in mind to do better.

    I think of the Air as a relatively inexpensive, customizable, remote-controlled process camera. The whole point of it is to construct different kinds of equipment configurations and create controller apps that allow it to be used in ways that any standalone camera is awkward at, and conversely the Air will be awkward to use in any standard kind of situation that a standalone camera is designed to excel at.

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    Isn't this the new reality: Everything has become an extension of the mobile phone. I feel so out of sync with popular culture by not having mine in my hands at all times, even leaving it behind on more than a few occasions. But lucky me, I've got no less than 2 cameras which can be controlled via mobile device, namely my Sony A7 and my brand-new Olympus TG4!

    In a more-perfect world, my phone would do the necessary pairing via NFC, so all I'd have to do is bring phone and camera into close proximity. But as it stands right now, I have to manually switch my old iPhone 4's wifi connection to the camera's network. I see that the Olympus also offers Bluetooth which is certainly a way to get around this bother, but unless BT data transfer rates have improved by orders of magnitude, I'd expect this to be much slower than wifi.

    On the other hand, at $299 for Air, they're getting right down into impulse-buy territory aren't they. It'd potentially make a killer microscope camera, replacing specialized Nikon instruments which sell for thousands.

    But for me personally, I'm thinking it's a bit like the Lytro camera: Seems like there's potential there, but I'll be darned if I know how to tap into it.

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    It may not have IBIS, but it does have stabilisation. Sort of. Digital stabilisation.

    I'm thinking of using it as a copy camera for digitising slides and negs of 35mm and larger formats. m43 is ideal for that because you can use autofocus, and for most purposes m43 has sufficient quality. My scanners gets very little use now as m43 RAWs are easier to work with than Nikon 5000 or 8000 tiffs, and are produced an order of magnitude faster. Quality is extremely close to that produced by the 5000. In this use the built in battery is of no consequence, as you just plug in the USB charger. Same for the phone , and you can go all day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 4season View Post
    Isn't this the new reality: Everything has become an extension of the mobile phone.
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    But for me personally, I'm thinking it's a bit like the Lytro camera: Seems like there's potential there, but I'll be darned if I know how to tap into it.
    "The mobile phone," aka: modern "smartphone," is far less a phone than a versatile miniature computer that has extensive communications, imaging, and processing capabilities. So it's a natural fit to the notion of being a mobile, universal communications and control device. Create the peripherals you want, add the control protocol and comm capability, write a little app for the smartphone, and you have a system designed to do a job that you had in mind.

    Unlike the Lytro, the Air is still strictured into standard still or motion 2D photographic notions. The Lytro camera is a leap in another direction entirely. Just think of the Air as a camera's hardware capture guts that an external, wireless controller can use to make photographs or movies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by henningw View Post
    It may not have IBIS, but it does have stabilisation. Sort of. Digital stabilisation.

    I'm thinking of using it as a copy camera for digitising slides and negs of 35mm and larger formats. m43 is ideal for that because you can use autofocus, and for most purposes m43 has sufficient quality. My scanners gets very little use now as m43 RAWs are easier to work with than Nikon 5000 or 8000 tiffs, and are produced an order of magnitude faster. Quality is extremely close to that produced by the 5000. In this use the built in battery is of no consequence, as you just plug in the USB charger. Same for the phone , and you can go all day.
    That's one of my initial uses for it as well. :-)

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    I'm thinking of using it as a copy camera for digitising slides and negs of 35mm and larger formats.
    That's intriguing: What sort of lenses and light sources do you use for the task? Actually I wonder if M43 or even Nikon 1 might be great picks for this sort of task because of the deeper DOF one typically gets.

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    That's intriguing: What sort of lenses and light sources do you use for the task? Actually I wonder if M43 or even Nikon 1 might be great picks for this sort of task because of the deeper DOF one typically gets.
    A near-perfect setup:
    - Olympus ZD 35/3.5 Macro fitted to MMF-2 mount adapter or Macro-Elmarit-DG 45/2.8, fitted to Air
    - Nikon ES-1 slide stage for mounted 35mm slides
    - An enlarger film carrier for 35mm or medium format negatives and transparencies, along with appropriate copy stand or tripod *
    - Flat panel, color corrected light box for illumination
    - iPad mini or iPhone used as controller

    * I built a light baffle out of black construction paper when working with the film carrier

    I've been using this same setup but with the E-M1 as the process camera. The Air simply makes it a bit simpler and smaller. The film carriers for a Beseler 23C enlarger are nearly perfect for this use, and are readily available in a wide variety of formats from Minox 8x11mm up to 6x9cm. A 35mm negative captures at the full width of the frame at ~1:2 magnification and nets a 14 Mpixel image; a 6x6cm negative captures at ~1:3 magnification and nets a 12 Mpixel image.

    An alternative negative capture rig is to use the Leica M-P fitted to a BEOON copy stand. This nets a 16 Mpixel image from 6x6 and 24 Mpixel from 35mm formats.

    The tricky one is Minox format. 8x11mm means I use the 35mm lens with 1.4x telextender to net a ~1.3:1 magnification with FourThirds format and a 40mm lens on the BEOON to get similar magnification with the Leica. ;-)

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    A near-perfect setup:
    Ah. On second thought, I'd better steer clear of this: I can see where a seemingly innocent $299 purchase could quickly morph into a $1500 "project", and I need one of those like I need another hole in my head. It'd be one thing if I already owned or planned to buy a BEOON and macro lens for M43, but I don't and hadn't.

    I haven't shot 8x11 Minox film since I was a kid, but if I can ever find those negatives, I could digitize them with my Olympus TG4! Lousy photos, but they're some of my earliest memories of SF and BC.

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    That's the thing ... For me, I have all those bits already so the $300 for a gizmo to put them to use is approachable as "play money."
    Still have my Minox cameras, actually have a roll about half-done in the EC at present. :-)

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    along with appropriate copy stand or tripod *
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    I'm interested as I am in the midst of a huge scanning project.

    Can you give me a URL for the stand you use, please?

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