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    Re: E-M1, E-M5, E-M5.2, etc. ... Peculiarities

    Quote Originally Posted by ptomsu View Post
    I am for now staying with m43 and there with Olympus. But I am sitting first row and watching what Nikon, Canon and Leica are doing with FF mirrorless as when I can identify a valid mirrorless FF solution (vendor) for me I am very open to add this ecosystem.

    Especially for the Nikon FF mirrorless I have high hopes, because I think they will start with a complete new mount and new lenses and that they will take video VERY serious (speaking of 4k FF usage). Add to that the very plausible possibility that they will also offer adapters for their F mount and G mount lenses and this immediately becomes a huge and very appealing ecosystem. Add on top of that that I was a Nikon shooter over decades and it shows how affin I would be to such a Nikon mirrorless FF.

    And it would make for a perfect complement to m43 as well!

    A new Leica SL would be another option, but then this means Leica prices and that is definitely far too expensive for me - sigh ...

    And Canon - you never know but I cannot see them going this route very seriously.

    Time will tell and for Nikon I am pretty sure we will already find out this year.
    If I'm being 100% honest here I believe Sony is head and shoulders the best mirrorless brand for FF Hybrid cameras and will be for the foreseeable future. I know some like Leica but they will likely not let the SL surpass the M for long, the lens lineup is good but extremely limited, the prices are comparable to Medium Format Mirrorless, and those are reasons it will likely never sell to anyone but the most hardcore Leica fan.

    Canon and Nikon have given half-hearted innovation efforts with their high-end DSLR's for two different reasons. Canon wants video shooters to move to their Cinema Series (which are truly Pro-level digital cine-cameras) and develop mirrorless technology internally first. Nikon treats video as an afterthought, gave us the 1 as a test product/novelty for amateur photography, all while periodically taking shots at mirrorless cameras from Sony and Fujifilm as they are likely cutting most into Nikon's sales more than Canon's.

    I don't see how Nikon will build out a completely new system in a completely new mount in a relatively short time with their financial woes without relying heavily on F-mount and 3rd party adapted glass as a stop gap like Sony did for a while before dedicating efforts to the FF mirrorless cameras. The only other potential benefit is that some 3rd party lens makers are releasing Sony FE glass like Sigma, Voigtlander, Zeiss, Rokinon, etc. and they can potentially make Nikon versions in time as well. Unless this happens, you will see hardcore Nikon fans "flip-flop" on their opinions regarding the importance of fully fleshed out systems that they had about Sony for the last 5 years.

    Now I had a thought yesterday that Canon MIGHT just go Medium Format Mirrorless to compete in a different segment that doesn't cannibalize EOS sales and development. This would actually make a lot of sense to target the fashion and wedding world with high-end stills and video and not alienate those that may fear having to dump their gear in time at firesale prices. Again Canon will need to adapt and implement EOS EF glass as a strategy no matter what.

    It took a company like Sony the better part of 3-5 years to create an entire native premium all-around kit with aggressive development cycles. We've seen rumored Nikon 50/0.95 and 35/1.2 patents... I just don't see Nikon and maybe even Canon putting out 6-10 self-branded lenses a year across the next 2 or 3 years to play catch up. Maybe they will but then there are many options to compare now in the mirrorless world that don't have Canon or Nikon in white across the top plate.

    In reality, it's worth seeing what either brand comes out with but if I was dead set on FF Mirrorless I'd choose Sony for the same reason that if I was deadset on a pro level DSLR I'd choose Canon or Nikon despite other options technically being available. The top lenses are outstanding and I'd put them up against the best from anyone to compare favorably or in the same league. Yes some are larger but a lot of that has to do with the motors being used and the resolving power. They are comparable to premium lenses of the same class in size from Zeiss, Canon, Nikon, Leica, Tamron, and Sigma.
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    Re: E-M1, E-M5, E-M5.2, etc. ... Peculiarities

    I am trying here a comparison of not totally dissimilar subjects but with dissimilar gear.

    First Olympus E-M1MarkII + M.300mm F4.0 Pro image of American Bushtit :



    Olympus E-M1MarkII + M.300mm F4.0 Pro @ ISO 250, FOCAL LENGTH 300.0 mm, APERTURE f/4.5, EXPOSURE TIME 0.0004s (1/2500)



    Second Sony ILCE-9 + FE 100-400mm F4.5-5.6 GM OSS image of Jumiper Titmouse:



    Sony ILCE-9 + FE 100-400mm F4.5-5.6 GM OSS (SEL100400GM) @ ISO 400, FOCAL LENGTH 400.0 mm, APERTURE f/5.6, EXPOSURE TIME 0.0004s (1/2500)

    So, how do you assess IQ sharpness and detail in these two images?
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    Re: E-M1, E-M5, E-M5.2, etc. ... Peculiarities

    Quote Originally Posted by k-hawinkler View Post
    So, how do you assess IQ sharpness and detail in these two images?
    Well, the bird cake is definitely sharper with the Oly ...

    Bart ...
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    Re: E-M1, E-M5, E-M5.2, etc. ... Peculiarities

    Quote Originally Posted by Knorp View Post
    Well, the bird cake is definitely sharper with the Oly ...

    Thanks Bart. Agreed!
    How about feather detail where in focus?
    With best regards, K-H.

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    Thanks Bart. Agreed!
    How about feather detail where in focus?
    In all fairness let's call it a draw ...
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    Re: E-M1, E-M5, E-M5.2, etc. ... Peculiarities

    Looks like the A9 has a bit more detail in the feathers to me but it's nitpicking and pixel peeping at this point. Both are outstanding and it's impressive that the $4500 or so Olympus kit compares extremely well in this use with the $7000 or so Sony kit.
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    Re: E-M1, E-M5, E-M5.2, etc. ... Peculiarities

    It's official, Panasonic 2.8/200 is a near perfect lens :-)

    https://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/4245839

    Hmm, interesting. Quote:
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    And what's more, the performance with the bundled teleconverter is also extremely good. About as good as Olympus 300mm f/4 (if extrapolating its results to 16mp sensor).
    "

    "
    The resolution results is great news but the AF performance with the EM5.2 is a bit disconcerting. Apparently it's better with Panny bodies. IIRC, Olympus will be releasing a FW update for the EM1.2 to fix some bugs ith this particular lens. Hopefully they do the same for the other Oly cameras.
    :

    https://www.getdpi.com/forum/4-3rds-cameras/63220-af-issue-pl200-2-8-oly.html
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    Re: E-M1, E-M5, E-M5.2, etc. ... Peculiarities

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    Olympus E-M1MarkII + M.300mm F4.0 Pro @ ISO 200, FOCAL LENGTH 300.0 mm, APERTURE f/4, EXPOSURE TIME 0.0004s (1/2500)
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    Re: E-M1, E-M5, E-M5.2, etc. ... Peculiarities

    Not as crisp at ISO 2000



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    Re: E-M1, E-M5, E-M5.2, etc. ... Peculiarities

    Robin Wong G9 Review - Thoughts?
    https://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/4247666
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    Re: E-M1, E-M5, E-M5.2, etc. ... Peculiarities

    Quote Originally Posted by scott kirkpatrick View Post
    There's also an earlier teleconference turned into an interview with Olympus on what firmware enhancements they are working on for the M1.2. Autofocus enhancements, mostly,

    scott
    I'm still waiting for a firmware update that will give me a smaller single focus box, and I've either been under a misapprehension or I've discovered a 'Peculiarity' .

    I had thought that I could make the focus box smaller using the 'Zoom frame AF' (page 41 in the manual)
    but it turns out that this is an illusion .

    All it does is to place a thick green line around the focus box which APPEARS to make the box smaller .

    I don't have time with my style of shooting to use the Super Spot AF to use and check the 'Zoom AF display'.

    Am I missing something here ????
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    Re: E-M1, E-M5, E-M5.2, etc. ... Peculiarities

    Quote Originally Posted by Elderly View Post
    I'm still waiting for a firmware update that will give me a smaller single focus box, and I've either been under a misapprehension or I've discovered a 'Peculiarity' .

    I had thought that I could make the focus box smaller using the 'Zoom frame AF' (page 41 in the manual)
    but it turns out that this is an illusion .

    All it does is to place a thick green line around the focus box which APPEARS to make the box smaller .

    I don't have time with my style of shooting to use the Super Spot AF to use and check the 'Zoom AF display'.

    Am I missing something here ????
    Ian, you're definitely missing a G9 ...
    It has a really tiny focus box and an even smaller pinpoint crosshair (with magnification).
    You'll love it.
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    Re: E-M1, E-M5, E-M5.2, etc. ... Peculiarities

    Quote Originally Posted by Knorp View Post
    Ian, you're definitely missing a G9 ...
    It has a really tiny focus box and an even smaller pinpoint crosshair (with magnification).
    You'll love it.
    I'm sure I would Bart, but I also really like my Olympus 12-100 mm lens and I wonder how they would pair?

    There are a number of reasons why I'm not going to trade my EM1 mk2 just yet, but I suspect that in the end a G9 will be mine .
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    Re: E-M1, E-M5, E-M5.2, etc. ... Peculiarities

    Quote Originally Posted by Elderly View Post
    I'm sure I would Bart, but I also really like my Olympus 12-100 mm lens and I wonder how they would pair?

    There are a number of reasons why I'm not going to trade my EM1 mk2 just yet, but I suspect that in the end a G9 will be mine .
    Your EM1 mk2, like mine, is an almost perfect tool. Likewise the G9 is an almost perfect tool.
    They both have their quirks, so no reason to rush out.
    And you know what they say about next door's lawn ...

    As for your 12-100/4, I'd be really surprised if it disappoints on the G9 in terms of IQ.
    But full IBIS/OIS/Dual/Dual2 functionality, or whatever they call it , that's a different matter to consider.
    Bart ...

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    I think I came t the conclusion that I would not mix up Panasonic and Olympus cameras and lenses. Just to much problems that could occur - and I am so tired of endless testing.

    Just want to grab a camera and be fine
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    Re: E-M1, E-M5, E-M5.2, etc. ... Peculiarities

    Quote Originally Posted by Knorp View Post
    Your EM1 mk2, like mine, is an almost perfect tool. Likewise the G9 is an almost perfect tool.
    .
    I was an early adopter of Micro 4/3rds (GH1) because I wanted a smaller toolbox ,
    however since then, my toolbox has got progressively bigger and heavier and the G9 with the 12-100 may be going too far away from my initial rationale. .

    If I go over to a G9 with a PL 12-60 (once their PL 50-200 appears) I hope that I won't miss that extra 40mm of reach for grabbing certain unrepeatable moments.

    So for the moment I'll stick with my current 'almost' perfect tool and hope that Olympus can do something about the SAF focusing in firmware to bring it up to that of my old EM1 mk1's excellent standard, and see what progresses with the PL 50-200.
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    Re: E-M1, E-M5, E-M5.2, etc. ... Peculiarities

    Perfect? Way too slow sensor readout times!!!
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    Olympus E-M1MarkII + M.300mm F4.0 @ ISO 200, FOCAL LENGTH 300.0 mm, APERTURE f/4, EXPOSURE TIME 0.0004s (1/2500)
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    Re: E-M1, E-M5, E-M5.2, etc. ... Peculiarities

    Quote Originally Posted by k-hawinkler View Post


    Olympus E-M1MarkII + M.300mm F4.0 Pro @ ISO 200, FOCAL LENGTH 300.0 mm, APERTURE f/4.5, EXPOSURE TIME 0.0004s (1/2500)

    The above image looks slightly over-sharpened to me.
    So I reduced the default sharpening in C1 by ⅓.




    Another shot, same parameters.

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    Olympus E-M1MarkII + M.300mm F4.0 + MC-14 @ ISO 400, FOCAL LENGTH 420.0 mm, APERTURE f/5.6, EXPOSURE TIME 0.0005s (1/2000)
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    Re: E-M1, E-M5, E-M5.2, etc. ... Peculiarities

    Panasonic Lumix G9 vs Olympus OM-D E-M1 II
    Published Feb 6, 2018 | Allison Johnson
    https://www.dpreview.com/articles/49...4010_132618830

    Olympus OM-D E-M1 Mark II for me.
    Hopefully we get a substantial firmware update soon.
    If not, Olympus better come out with the E-M1 Mark III ASAP, matching or exceeding the Sony A9's silent/electronic shutter, that is essentially free of rolling shutter artifacts.
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    Re: E-M1, E-M5, E-M5.2, etc. ... Peculiarities

    Quote Originally Posted by k-hawinkler View Post
    Panasonic Lumix G9 vs Olympus OM-D E-M1 II
    Published Feb 6, 2018 | Allison Johnson
    https://www.dpreview.com/articles/49...4010_132618830

    Olympus OM-D E-M1 Mark II for me.
    Hopefully we get a substantial firmware update soon.
    If not, Olympus better come out with the E-M1 Mark III ASAP, matching or exceeding the Sony A9's silent/electronic shutter, that is essentially free of rolling shutter artifacts.
    It's the G9 for me and the only substantial firmware upgrade we'll see is improved AF support for the PL200/2.8
    An EM1-III is a complete different story and perhaps to be announced by the end of the year.
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    Re: E-M1, E-M5, E-M5.2, etc. ... Peculiarities

    Quote Originally Posted by Knorp View Post
    It's the G9 for me and the only substantial firmware upgrade we'll see is improved AF support for the PL200/2.8
    An EM1-III is a complete different story and perhaps to be announced by the end of the year.

    Thanks Bart.
    Just curious, what are you doing with your Olympus FT SHG lenses?
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    Quote Originally Posted by k-hawinkler View Post
    Thanks Bart.
    Just curious, what are you doing with your Olympus FT SHG lenses?
    Shooting photos ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Knorp View Post
    Shooting photos ...
    With which camera?
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    Re: E-M1, E-M5, E-M5.2, etc. ... Peculiarities

    Note to myself:

    WOW: Panasonic Develops Industryís-First 8K High-Resolution Global Shutter organic sensor!

    https://www.43rumors.com/wow-panason...hutter-sensor/
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    Re: E-M1, E-M5, E-M5.2, etc. ... Peculiarities

    February 3, 2016

    Panasonic develops 10times Higher Saturation & Highly Functional Global Shutter Technology by controlling of Organic-Photoconductive-Film on CMOS Image Sensor
    Panasonic develops 10times Higher Saturation & Highly Functional Global Shutter Technology by controlling of Organic-Photoconductive-Film on CMOS Image Sensor | Headquarters News | Panasonic Newsroom Global


    Feb 14, 2018

    Panasonic Develops Industry's-First*1
    8K High-Resolution, High-Performance Global Shutter Technology
    using Organic-Photoconductive-Film CMOS Image Sensor


    The new technology enables 8K high resolution and high picture quality imaging without motion distortion, even in extremely bright scenes.

    Panasonic Develops Industry's-First 8K High-Resolution, High-Performance Global Shutter Technology using Organic-Photoconductive-Film CMOS Image Sensor | Headquarters News | Panasonic Newsroom Global
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    Re: E-M1, E-M5, E-M5.2, etc. ... Peculiarities

    Sony’s answer:

    Sensor breakthrough: Sony has developed a backlit CMOS sensor with global shutter
    Published Feb 16, 2018 | Damien Demolder, Rishi Sanyal

    https://www.dpreview.com/news/194572...4010_132618830
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    Re: E-M1, E-M5, E-M5.2, etc. ... Peculiarities

    Quote Originally Posted by k-hawinkler View Post
    Sony’s answer:

    Sensor breakthrough: Sony has developed a backlit CMOS sensor with global shutter
    Published Feb 16, 2018 | Damien Demolder, Rishi Sanyal

    https://www.dpreview.com/news/194572...4010_132618830
    This is actually excellent, exciting news for all photography! First m43 will benefit from this, then APSC and finally also FF:

    PS: a bit off topic but anyway - with the intro of that excellent X-H1 (APSC) I expect this technology to come to APSC sensors in the next 2-3 years and then the Fuji X system (which is based on APSC) would finally become my preferred main system, as then all components would allow to build an excellent overall system for my needs with considerably less size and weight than FF but so much better IQ and DR-High Iso freedom compared to m43.
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    Thanks Peter. Good luck with your plans.
    Panasonic, Fuji, and Sony for sure will use this technology in future cameras.
    Question, when will a global silent shutter show up in an Olympus camera?

    I will stick with MFT and Sony gear (APS-C and FF).
    I am confident my Olympus 300/4 Pro lens will also work well on an GH6 - if Olympus shouldn't have a competitive camera at that time.
    With best regards, K-H.

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    Thanks Peter. Good luck with your plans.
    Panasonic, Fuji, and Sony for sure will use this technology in future cameras.
    Question, when will a global silent shutter show up in an Olympus camera?

    I will stick with MFT and Sony gear (APS-C and FF).
    I am confident my Olympus 300/4 Pro lens will also work well on an GH6 - if Olympus shouldn't have a competitive camera at that time.
    Thanks as well K-H - I think you tend more to the 2-systems approach

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    Oh we will!
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    Hi Barry, you regularly create stunning images with your Sony gear, including third party lenses. You certainly have the fitting equipment for your photography journey. I noticed you looked recently at a number of my MFT images, primarily birding shots. I hope some of them get your approval.

    IMHO the E-M1.2 + 300/4 Pro + 1.4x TC and the Sony A9 + 100-400/4.5-5.6 GM OSS, 1.4x and even 2x TC are equally capable of excellent performance. I like to use both systems, equally superior lenses, with the A9 clearly being the best camera for action/birding shots I have ever used. I also own the A7r.2, a terrific camera for landscape and general photography, that I also used for birding shots. However, since when I have owned the A9, the shortcomings of the A7r.2 for biding shots have been painfully obvious. So I continue to use the A7r.2 for those areas for which it excels!


    For Christmas I got the Olympus M.Zuiko Digital ED 25mm f/1.2 PRO Lens on sale - but so far haven't used it. That lens certainly got rave reviews together with its siblings, the 17/1.2 and 45/1.2 Pro lenses. As I understand it, soon to be joined by the 12/1.2 Pro.

    So today I took the 25/1.2 for a spin on my E-M1.2.



    Olympus E-M1MarkII + M.ZUIKO DIGITAL ED 25mm f/1.2 PRO @ ISO 200, FOCAL LENGTH 25.0 mm, APERTURE f/1.6, EXPOSURE TIME 0.0002s (1/5000)

    This is a 2-image panorama shot with the same combination of a neighborhood house on sale.



    Olympus E-M1MarkII + M.ZUIKO DIGITAL ED 25mm f/1.2 PRO @ ISO 200, FOCAL LENGTH 25.0 mm, APERTURE f/1.2, EXPOSURE TIME 0.0002s (1/5000)



    Olympus E-M1MarkII + M.ZUIKO DIGITAL ED 25mm f/1.2 PRO @ ISO 200, FOCAL LENGTH 25.0 mm, APERTURE f/1.2, EXPOSURE TIME 0.00025s (1/4000)
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    Quote Originally Posted by k-hawinkler View Post
    Hi Barry, you regularly create stunning images with your Sony gear, including third party lenses. You certainly have the fitting equipment for your photography journey. I noticed you looked recently at a number of my MFT images, primarily birding shots. I hope some of them get your approval.

    IMHO the E-M1.2 + 300/4 Pro + 1.4x TC and the Sony A9 + 100-400/4.5-5.6 GM OSS, 1.4x and even 2x TC are equally capable of excellent performance. I like to use both systems, equally superior lenses, with the A9 clearly being the best camera for action/birding shots I have ever used. I also own the A7r.2, a terrific camera for landscape and general photography, that I also used for birding shots. However, since when I have owned the A9, the shortcomings of the A7r.2 for biding shots have been painfully obvious. So I continue to use the A7r.2 for those areas for which it excels!

    Many thanks K-H, I try to look across most of the forum threads whenever I get the chance :-)
    I can now easily see a clear difference in these newer MFT cameras from when I was shooting back with a Panasonic GH2 and GH3 (Not that I thought that the GH3 was a bad camera by any means. it's just that technology has just got so much better within the last 5-7 years)...The sensors look much cleaner whilst resolving better detail at the same time, even the lens choices are more refined.

    I had missed/overlooked some of your earlier bird images within some of these MFT threads, hence the return visit last night to see your amazing bird images...I'm no bird photographer but I like to think I recognize an excellent image when I see one....and you have many here and in the Sony forums....I take my hat off to you...Cheers Barry
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    Interesting.

    From Bosque del Apache, New Mexico to Santa Fe (warning: long post with lots of pix)
    https://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/4255876
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    Olympus E-M1MarkII + M.300mm F4.0 @ ISO 250, FOCAL LENGTH 300.0 mm,APERTURE f/4, EXPOSURE TIME 0.0004s (1/2500)
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    Hmm what to expect from the upcoming firmware update.
    https://www.dpreview.com/forums/thre...-post-60791339, quote:
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    There is an HTML bug that is cutting off the last four lines.

    - New art filter [Bleach Bypass] has been added.
    - Possible to use focus stacking photography with "M.ZUIKO DIGITAL ED 12-100mm F4.0 IS PRO".
    - Small targets have been added to AF target mode.
    - Possible to set a maximum of 35 pre-shutter frames for Pro Capture shooting.
    - Display has been improved to show that Pro Capture shooting is recording.
    - "Flicker Scan" has been added so it is possible to reduce flickering by fine adjustment of shutter speed while looking at the live view when using electronic shutter.
    - Fisheye compensation photography has been added for use of M.ZUIKO DIGITAL ED 8mm F1.8 Fisheye PRO. You can view the effects in live view while shooting images.
    - Possible to set zoom ratio during playback. Also, added pixel equivalence display to zoom ratio.
    - Pro Capture shooting is available for additional lenses.
    - Display of remaining battery power has been improved.
    - Response when assigning AF to AEL/AFL button has been improved.
    - Stability of camera operation when using OLYMPUS Capture has been improved.
    - Stability of image stabilizer operation when shooting video has been improved.
    - Performance of C-AF when shooting still images has been improved.
    - Color reproduction of photographed images has been improved.
    - Stability of operation when shooting still images has been improved.
    - Corrected issue of autofocus (AF) function not operating correctly when using the "LEICA DG ELMARIT 200mm F2.8 / POWER O.I.S. (H-ES200)" interchangeable lens produced by Panasonic.
    "

    Hopefully after the firmware update I still will get those pretty sharp images with my 300/4 Pro prime lens!
    With best regards, K-H.

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    Micro Focus Adjustment
    5 months ago

    https://www.dpreview.com/forums/thre...-post-60174208


    Do Olympus lenses need calibration?
    Feb 3, 2017

    https://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/4113327


    IIRC: FT lenses can be micro-adjusted for both C-AF and S-AF, MFT lenses only for C-AF.
    Luckily I never saw the need to micro-adjust my MFT Olympus 300/4 Pro lens.
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    Luckily I never saw the need to micro-adjust my MFT Olympus 300/4 Pro lens.
    Interesting, but not new. How can you tell you don't need micro-adjustment ?
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    I also never saw the need for micro adjustment on any m43 camera/lens combo and also not on any of my Fuji combos.
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    Well this https://www.getdpi.com/forum/4-3rds-...tml#post752346 looks in focus to me. In focus and out of focus images, even just slightly so, appear differently. My E-M1.2 and 300/4 Pro consistently appear to deliver in focus and sharp images. Thatís good enough for me. Bart, do you think the image referenced above is out of focus?
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    I also never saw the need for micro adjustment on any m43 camera/lens combo and also not on any of my Fuji combos.
    Thanks Peter. The same for my MFT lenses. In contrast all of my 4 Olympus FT lenses improved with micro-adjustment applied.
    With best regards, K-H.

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    Thanks Peter. The same for my MFT lenses. In contrast all of my 4 Olympus FT lenses improved with micro-adjustment applied.
    Yes K-H, this is something expected as 43 lenses and cameras worked still with a AF unit separate from the sensor - like all DSLRs do (did). The critical thing is that this AF unit needed to be especially tight adjusted as only the slightest mis-adjustment already brought unsharp pictures (smaller sensors, relatively more resolution ...)

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    Quote Originally Posted by k-hawinkler View Post
    Well this https://www.getdpi.com/forum/4-3rds-...tml#post752346 looks in focus to me. In focus and out of focus images, even just slightly so, appear differently. My E-M1.2 and 300/4 Pro consistently appear to deliver in focus and sharp images. Thatís good enough for me. Bart, do you think the image referenced above is out of focus?
    Lucky shot I guess ...
    I've used LensAlign Pro for my 300/4 at various distances and did find room for improvement.
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    Lucky shot I guess ...
    I've used LensAlign Pro for my 300/4 at various distances and did find room for improvement.
    ??????

    I really cannot understand this - sorry - how am I thinking wrong?
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    Lucky shot I guess ...
    I've used LensAlign Pro for my 300/4 at various distances and did find room for improvement.
    Thanks Bart. Better lucky than smart, as they say around here.

    Which micro-adjustments work out for your 300/4 lens?
    Did you find different adjustments for different focus distances?

    Do I remember correctly the adjustment applies only to C-AF? TIA.

    Again, I am looking forward to the new firmware updates for all my OM-D cameras, spread out over this year. Hopefully starting next week with the E-M1.2.
    With best regards, K-H.

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    ??????

    I really cannot understand this - sorry - how am I thinking wrong?
    Sorry Peter, I have no clue ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by k-hawinkler View Post
    Thanks Bart. Better lucky than smart, as they say around here.

    Which micro-adjustments work out for your 300/4 lens?
    Did you find different adjustments for different focus distances?

    Do I remember correctly the adjustment applies only to C-AF? TIA.

    Again, I am looking forward to the new firmware updates for all my OM-D cameras, spread out over this year. Hopefully starting next week with the E-M1.2.
    -2 adjustment, distances ranges from 2 to 6 meters. Any further and it became difficult to accurately check the LAP scale.
    I'm pretty sure I was using S-AF.
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