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    Re: E-M1, E-M5, E-M5.2, etc. ... Peculiarities

    Thank you Karl-Heinz

    Whilst I quite understand the frustration Robin was suffering about the lack of zoom and flat lighting, he has made a very decent fist of his safari images and the clarity and sharpness of this lens shines through in my opinion. In fact the animal portraits were probably helped by the available lighting as in my experience of many safari's in Africa, the harsh contrasty lighting can sometimes be more difficult for animal "close ups".
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    Quote Originally Posted by dhsimmonds View Post
    Thank you Karl-Heinz

    Whilst I quite understand the frustration Robin was suffering about the lack of zoom and flat lighting, he has made a very decent fist of his safari images and the clarity and sharpness of this lens shines through in my opinion. In fact the animal portraits were probably helped by the available lighting as in my experience of many safari's in Africa, the harsh contrasty lighting can sometimes be more difficult for animal "close ups".

    Many thanks Dave. I agree about the lighting.
    Although I have never been in Africa, here in the mountains of Northern New Mexico humidity can be exceedingly low, especially in the winter.
    Midday light in full sunshine can be very harsh. My favorite conditions are early morning and late afternoon with long shadows under partially cloudy skies!
    Natural light doesn't get better than that!

    A couple years ago, while taking pictures, I had a nice conversation with a gentleman who turned out to be a local sculptor from one of the pueblos around here.
    He told me that he would take photographs of his finished sculptures only at around 4 PM with available light.
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    Re: E-M1, E-M5, E-M5.2, etc. ... Peculiarities



    E-M1 + M.300mm F4.0 + MC-14 @ FL=420 mm, F/5.6, ISO=200, 1/1000 s. Line of sight distance to tower about a mile.
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    Re: E-M1, E-M5, E-M5.2, etc. ... Peculiarities

    diglloyd: Field Testing the Olympus 300mm f/4

    Hmm, nothing wrong with that lens? Did Lloyd miss it?
    Couldn't be, or could it?
    Or did I miss it in his post?
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    E-M5.2 + M.300mm F4.0 + MC-14 @ FL=420 mm, F/5.6, ISO=640, 1/1250 s
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    E-M1 + M.300mm F4.0 @ FL=300 mm, F/4, ISO=200, 1/100 s.
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    Re: E-M1, E-M5, E-M5.2, etc. ... Peculiarities

    Quote Originally Posted by k-hawinkler View Post
    diglloyd: Field Testing the Olympus 300mm f/4

    Hmm, nothing wrong with that lens? Did Lloyd miss it?
    Couldn't be, or could it?
    Or did I miss it in his post?
    I think he was too busy with monitoring his power output and hydration management on his 195 mile bicycle ride to pick holes in the new BigTuna lens's performance.

    scott
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    Re: E-M1, E-M5, E-M5.2, etc. ... Peculiarities

    Quote Originally Posted by scott kirkpatrick View Post
    I think he was too busy with monitoring his power output and hydration management on his 195 mile bicycle ride to pick holes in the new BigTuna lens's performance.

    scott

    Thanks scott. I would really hate to have to return my lens - if Lloyd finds a fatal flaw!

    So far I have been enjoying myself with the new lens, as the visitors to the Bandelier caves seem to be doing as well!
    I doesn't seem to matter whether they are young or old. Everybody has to climb those ladders and get into a few caves!



    E-M1 + M.300mm F4.0 + MC-14 @ FL=420 mm, F/8, ISO=200, 1/640 s.

    Well, there is no place nearby to shoot a picture of this particular cave with a similar frame, unless one hovers in mid air or attaches the camera to a long pole.
    However, quadcopters are outlawed in National Parks, such as Bandelier National Monument.
    And the E-M1 + M.300mm F4.0 + MC-14 I find a lot more convenient than a long stick!
    Also, unfortunately in late morning when this image was shot, the light is pretty harsh in bright sunshine. :face smack:
    But not many visitors are around early or late in the day.




    E-M1 + M.300mm F4.0 + MC-14 @ FL=420 mm, F/8, ISO=200, 1/640 s.




    E-M1 + M.300mm F4.0 + MC-14 @ FL=420 mm, F/8, ISO=320, 1/400 s.




    E-M1 + M.300mm F4.0 + MC-14 @ FL=420 mm, F/8, ISO=200, 1/640 s.
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    Re: E-M1, E-M5, E-M5.2, etc. ... Peculiarities

    A visit to Bandelier without photographers? Are you kidding me!



    E-M1 + M.300mm F4.0 + MC-14 @ FL=420 mm, F/8, ISO=200, 1/640 s.
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    E-M1 + M.300mm F4.0 + MC-14 @ FL=420 mm, F/8, ISO=200, 1/800 s.




    E-M1 + M.300mm F4.0 + MC-14 @ FL=420 mm, F/8, ISO=200, 1/500 s.
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    E-M1 + M.300mm F4.0 + MC-14 @ FL=420 mm, F/8, ISO=200, 1/500 s.
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    E-M1 + M.300mm F4.0 + MC-14 @ FL=420 mm, F/8, ISO=200, 1/800 s.


    A selfie-stick?



    E-M1 + M.300mm F4.0 + MC-14 @ FL=420 mm, F/8, ISO=200, 1/500 s.
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    A Selfie-Shot



    E-M1 + M.300mm F4.0 + MC-14 @ FL=420 mm, F/8, ISO=200, 1/800 s.
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    E-M1 + M.300mm F4.0 + MC-14 @ FL=420 mm, F/8, ISO=200, 1/640 s.
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    Re: E-M1, E-M5, E-M5.2, etc. ... Peculiarities

    Saint Peter's Dome of the San Miguel Mountains to the East of the Jemez Mountains, NM, 8,463 feet, as seen from Bandelier National Monument.



    E-M1 + M.300mm F4.0 + MC-14 @ FL=420 mm, F/5.6, ISO=200, 1/1600 s.

    This used to be densely forested before a couple of large forest fires wiped out the trees. One can still see some of the burned tree trunks standing after a decade or two.
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    E-M1 + M.300mm F4.0 + MC-14 @ FL=420 mm, F/8, ISO=200, 1/400 s.
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    E-M1 + M.300mm F4.0 + MC-14 @ FL=420 mm, F/8, ISO=200, 1/500 s.
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    E-M1 + M.300mm F4.0 + MC-14 @ FL=420 mm, F/8, ISO=250, 1/400 s.




    E-M1 + M.300mm F4.0 + MC-14 @ FL=420 mm, F/5.6, ISO=200, 1/800 s.




    E-M1 + M.300mm F4.0 + MC-14 @ FL=420 mm, F/8, ISO=200, 1/400 s.
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    This looks like a truly wonderful lens and luckily (for my pocket),
    a lens that I would have almost zeros use for ............










    .......... or would I? .
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    Re: E-M1, E-M5, E-M5.2, etc. ... Peculiarities

    Quote Originally Posted by Elderly View Post
    This looks like a truly wonderful lens and luckily (for my pocket),
    a lens that I would have almost zeros use for ............


    .......... or would I? .

    Many thanks Ian for your humorous feedback.
    Indeed for me it's a wonderful lens.
    Primarily I got it for birding.
    However, the Hummingbirds and Turkey Vultures return no earlier than about Mid-April.
    So, aside from current backyard birds I was trying out other scenarios that lens could be potentially useful for.
    I never know until I find out by exploring with camera and lens in hand.

    I am really impressed by the sharpness, colors, lack of aberrations, and general IQ this lens produces.
    Also, it's not too heavy for me to carry around in one hand.
    Image stabilization works like magic!

    So, one question I had was: What images would I get for candid shots of folks a few hundred yards away?
    Here are two examples, not cropped, only reduced in size.



    E-M1 + M.300mm F4.0 + MC-14 @ FL=420 mm, F/8, ISO=200, 1/500 s.




    E-M1 + M.300mm F4.0 + MC-14 @ FL=420 mm, F/8, ISO=200, 1/640 s.

    Well, those shots remind me what it is like going on a hike with my children and grandchildren.
    We will have their visit over Easter and I should get similar shots with the Oly 300/4 PRO or with the Leica DG 42.5/1.2.
    Our young granddaughters love to climb, wherever there is an opportunity, just like the girl in post #60.
    Climbing up that same ladder seems to be one of their favorites!
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    Re: E-M1, E-M5, E-M5.2, etc. ... Peculiarities

    A teaser for none-subscribers:

    diglloyd: Reviewed: Olympus M.Zuiko Digital ED 300mm f/4 IS PRO,

    Now at: diglloyd Mirrorless - Olympus M.Zuiko Digital ED 300mm f/4 IS PRO - Olympus Zuiko Digital ED 300mm f/4 IS PRO Overview (diglloyd.com excerpt)

    Quote:

    "HIGHLY RECOMMENDED. This may be the very best lens available for Micro Four Thirds."

    Hmm. I have the lens and don't need a subscription after that praise!

    Image stabilization and focusing accuracy reminds me of Arthur C. Clarke's:
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clarke%27s_three_laws, quote:

    "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
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    Reading aloud an explanation from the park brochure, no doubt!



    E-M1 + M.300mm F4.0 + MC-14 @ FL=420 mm, F/8, ISO=200, 1/400 s.
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    Re: E-M1, E-M5, E-M5.2, etc. ... Peculiarities

    Cruising



    E-M1 + M.300mm F4.0 + MC-14 @ FL=420 mm, F/5.6, ISO=320, 1/1000 s.

    Hmm, if that doesn't look like a B-52 in the friendly New Mexican skies?
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    Love the morning light.



    E-M5.2 + M.7-14mm F2.8 @ FL=14 mm, F/5.6, ISO=200, 1/125 s
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    Peace!



    E-M1 + M.300mm F4.0 @ FL=300 mm, F/4, ISO=200, 1/4000 s.
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    Re: E-M1, E-M5, E-M5.2, etc. ... Peculiarities

    Springtime in New Mexico - Oh, lasts about two weeks!

    Note to myself: For comparison with the Oly 75-300/4.8-6.7 II some shots are posted here: http://www.getdpi.com/forum/4-3rds-c...tml#post633227


    The following shots were taken with E-M1 + M.300mm F4.0 + MC-14 on an extremely windy day!



    E-M1 + M.300mm F4.0 + MC-14 @ FL=420 mm, F/8, ISO=200, 1/320 s.




    E-M1 + M.300mm F4.0 + MC-14 @ FL=420 mm, F/8, ISO=250, 1/1000 s.




    E-M1 + M.300mm F4.0 + MC-14 @ FL=420 mm, F/8, ISO=500, 1/1000 s.
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    The TuVus (Turkey Vultures) are back for the next six months!



    E-M1 + M.300mm F4.0 @ FL=300 mm, F/4, ISO=125, 1/1000 s.




    E-M1 + M.300mm F4.0 @ FL=300 mm, F/4, ISO=160, 1/1000 s.




    E-M1 + M.300mm F4.0 @ FL=300 mm, F/4, ISO=500, 1/640 s.
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    Re: E-M1, E-M5, E-M5.2, etc. ... Peculiarities

    Plum Tree Blossoms



    E-M1 + M.300mm F4.0 @ FL=300 mm, F/5.6, ISO=160, 1/1250 s.
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    E-M1 + M.300mm F4.0 @ FL=300 mm, F/5.6, ISO=160, 1/1250 s.
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    Now, that seems to be a lens capable of delivering sharp results IMHO!





    E-M1 + M.300mm F4.0 @ FL=300 mm, F/5.6, ISO=200, 1/1600 s.
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    Re: E-M1, E-M5, E-M5.2, etc. ... Peculiarities

    In shots like the following one I noticed, after the latest firmware updates, that AF-C requires quite a bit of contrast to get a focus lock and fire the shutter, Release set to Off.
    Focus on Passenger Jet. Using AF-S in contrast always seems to work. I dont think I have noticed this behavior to the same degree before though.




    And with using Curves in CS6.



    E-M1 + M.300mm F4.0 @ FL=300 mm, F/5.6, ISO=400, 1/1600 s.
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    E-M1 + M.300mm F4.0 @ FL=300 mm, F/5.6, ISO=250, 1/1250 s.
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    Re: E-M1, E-M5, E-M5.2, etc. ... Peculiarities

    The Roost.



    E-M1 + M.300mm F4.0 @ FL=300 mm, F/4, ISO=3,200, 1/640 s.
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    E-M1 + M.300mm F4.0 @ FL=300 mm, F/4, ISO=2,000, 1/1000 s.




    E-M1 + M.300mm F4.0 @ FL=300 mm, F/4, ISO=5,000, 1/1000 s.
    With best regards, K-H.
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    More Ravens.



    E-M5.2 + LEICA DG NOCTICRON 42.5/F1.2 @ FL=42.5 mm, F/10, ISO=200, 1/320 s.
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    E-M1 + M.300mm F4.0 @ FL=300 mm, F/4, ISO=6,400, 1/500 s.
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    A View from the Hill.



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    Basically unprocessed raw with top sky cut off to achieve a 16x9 format. As seen with my naked eyes.



    Processed with COP9.



    Added: Nik, Color Efex Pro 4, Remove Color Cast. As seen with my mental eyes.



    Added: Nik, Silver Efex Pro 2, Neutral.


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    The Olympus OM-D cameras E-M1, E-M5, E-M5.2 all have the same pixel pitch of 3.7 m, whereas the Sony A7r2 has 4.5 m, and the Nikon D800E has 4.8 m.
    When comparing a D800E + 400 mm lens with an E-M1 + 300 mm lens we find (400/300) * (3.7/4.8) = 1.03 that the D800E + 400 mm lens has 3 % more resolution than the E-M1 + 300 mm lens.
    Similarly comparing a D800E + 400 mm lens with an E-M1 + 420 mm lens we find (400/420) * (3.7/4.8) = 0.73, 1/0.73 =1.36 that the E-M1 + 420 mm lens has 36 % more resolution than the D800E + 400 mm lens.
    Of course the FF Nikon system also has a larger Field of View that should make it easier to frame a Bird in Flight (BIF). I think I will give the FF Nikon system a try and see whether it has better AF-C performance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by k-hawinkler View Post
    The Olympus OM-D cameras E-M1, E-M5, E-M5.2 all have the same pixel pitch of 3.7 m, whereas the Sony A7r2 has 4.5 m, and the Nikon D800E has 4.8 m.
    When comparing a D800E + 400 mm lens with an E-M1 + 300 mm lens we find (400/300) * (3.7/4.8) = 1.03 that the D800E + 400 mm lens has 3 % more resolution than the E-M1 + 300 mm lens.
    Similarly comparing a D800E + 400 mm lens with an E-M1 + 420 mm lens we find (400/420) * (3.7/4.8) = 0.73, 1/0.73 =1.36 that the E-M1 + 420 mm lens has 36 % more resolution than the D800E + 400 mm lens.
    Of course the FF Nikon system also has a larger Field of View that should make it easier to frame a Bird in Flight (BIF). I think I will give the FF Nikon system a try and see whether it has better AF-C performance.
    It will definitely have better AFC performance, I am sure!

    Having said that I would try out the new D500/D5 as these cameras have the latest AF system with 171 AF points over a large area as well as top low light AF performance. The D500 might be even better suited for wildlife or BIF as the AF system covers almost the complete field of view as it is an APSC camera.

    If the D5 is to massive and expensive, I would wait for the next incarnation of the D810, which should have the same AF system then and be a smaller FF body with high resolution. Or you simply could try the D810, which is already pretty perfect in all disciplines, especially also in AF - Group AF would be a great setting for BIF.

    Combine that with a 80-400 VR2 or the 200-500 and you should be all set ....

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    It will definitely have better AFC performance, I am sure!

    Having said that I would try out the new D500/D5 as these cameras have the latest AF system with 171 AF points over a large area as well as top low light AF performance. The D500 might be even better suited for wildlife or BIF as the AF system covers almost the complete field of view as it is an APSC camera.

    If the D5 is to massive and expensive, I would wait for the next incarnation of the D810, which should have the same AF system then and be a smaller FF body with high resolution. Or you simply could try the D810, which is already pretty perfect in all disciplines, especially also in AF - Group AF would be a great setting for BIF.

    Combine that with a 80-400 VR2 or the 200-500 and you should be all set ....

    Peter

    Thanks for the feedback Peter.
    It seems to me going the D5 route would be advantageous from an AF-C but not from an resolution point of view.
    I agree with you, the prospective D820 would be a better way to go.

    However, if I can avoid buying another DSLR with an OVF, that would be my preference.
    I definitely prefer an EVF over an OVF as it is more convenient for my aging eyes.

    In my experience, taking a BIF picture, faces two challenges, namely framing the bird and then getting the bird in focus for the exposure.
    For a given focal length, for the m43 format with its narrower FOV it is more difficult to put the focus point on the intended subject.
    If one doesn't get that sufficiently accomplished, then an m43 camera begins to focus hunt, exacerbating the problem by completely obscuring the view of these fast moving Turkey Vultures. And one has to start over, searching the sky with the naked eye or via an Olympus EE-1 Dot Sight.

    The EE-1 seems to work well if one has adjusted it correctly with the help of a tripod for the anticipated distance to avoid parallax errors. Pointing the not stabilized EE-1 on the subject then should point the stabilized focus point on the subject as well, more or less precisely.

    In contrast, with my Nikon D800E + Nikkor AF-S 80-400/4.5-5.6 VR lens I don't have much of a framing or focusing problem as its FOV seems sufficiently large and its AF-C focus fast enough.

    Following, are some images illustrating the topic. First, a shot with E-M5.2 + 300/4 lens + EE-1, un-cropped, only reduced in size.



    The Turkey Vulture is close enough to fill a fair fraction of the image height. Without the EE-1 it's very easy to lose the bird out of the frame or never even get it into the frame.


    Next a similar size Turkey Vulture at about the same distance captured with D800E + AF-S 80-400/4.5-5.6 VR @ 400 mm, un-cropped, only reduced in size.



    Here framing and focusing is much less of a challenge and I don't feel the need to use the EE-1.

    Rotating the bird a bit and cropping yields this image.




    Of course, I am very curious how a Sony A7r2 + FE 70-200 F2.8 GM OSS lens + 1.4x or 2x Teleconverter Lens would perform in this situation.
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    Here are two shots with E-M5.2 + 300/4 lens + EE-1, un-cropped, reduced in size of Turkey Vultures at the Canyon Rim before they fly to their roost.



    E-M5.2 + M.300mm F4.0 @ FL=300 mm, F/4, ISO=200, 1/1,000 s.




    E-M5.2 + M.300mm F4.0 @ FL=300 mm, F/4, ISO=640, 1/1,000 s.
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    I then switched over to my Nikon D800E system and got these two images, un-cropped, reduced in size. Apparently the Turkey Vultures are in their mating season.



    D800E + AF-S 80-400/4.5-5.6 VR @ FL=400 mm, F/5.6, ISO=1,100, 1/1,000 s.





    D800E + AF-S 80-400/4.5-5.6 VR @ FL=400 mm, F/5.6, ISO=1,600, 1/1,000 s.

    Also, obvious the larger FOV of the FF camera as compared to the m43 images.
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    Canyon Rim Above, as seen from Canyon Floor, 600 feet below, in Evening Light.



    E-M5.2 + M.300mm F4.0 @ FL=300 mm, F/4, ISO=200, 1/1,000 s.
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    Another Favorite Turkey Vulture Hang Out before Descending to their Roost.



    E-M5.2 + M.300mm F4.0 @ FL=300 mm, F/6.3, ISO=200, 1/1,000 s.
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    Quote Originally Posted by k-hawinkler View Post
    Thanks for the feedback Peter.
    It seems to me going the D5 route would be advantageous from an AF-C but not from an resolution point of view.
    I agree with you, the prospective D820 would be a better way to go.

    However, if I can avoid buying another DSLR with an OVF, that would be my preference.
    I definitely prefer an EVF over an OVF as it is more convenient for my aging eyes.

    In my experience, taking a BIF picture, faces two challenges, namely • framing the bird and then • getting the bird in focus for the exposure.
    For a given focal length, for the m43 format with its narrower FOV it is more difficult to put the focus point on the intended subject.
    If one doesn't get that sufficiently accomplished, then an m43 camera begins to focus hunt, exacerbating the problem by completely obscuring the view of these fast moving Turkey Vultures. And one has to start over, searching the sky with the naked eye or via an Olympus EE-1 Dot Sight.

    The EE-1 seems to work well if one has adjusted it correctly with the help of a tripod for the anticipated distance to avoid parallax errors. Pointing the not stabilized EE-1 on the subject then should point the stabilized focus point on the subject as well, more or less precisely.

    In contrast, with my Nikon D800E + Nikkor AF-S 80-400/4.5-5.6 VR lens I don't have much of a framing or focusing problem as its FOV seems sufficiently large and its AF-C focus fast enough.

    Following, are some images illustrating the topic. First, a shot with E-M5.2 + 300/4 lens + EE-1, un-cropped, only reduced in size.



    The Turkey Vulture is close enough to fill a fair fraction of the image height. Without the EE-1 it's very easy to lose the bird out of the frame or never even get it into the frame.


    Next a similar size Turkey Vulture at about the same distance captured with D800E + AF-S 80-400/4.5-5.6 VR @ 400 mm, un-cropped, only reduced in size.



    Here framing and focusing is much less of a challenge and I don't feel the need to use the EE-1.

    Rotating the bird a bit and cropping yields this image.



    Of course, I am very curious how a Sony A7r2 + FE 70-200 F2.8 GM OSS lens + 1.4x or 2x Teleconverter Lens would perform in this situation.
    K-H,

    I hear you and I also prefer EVF meanwhile for a lot of situations. And a D5 is not an option for me, as it is way too large/heavy and expensive as well. A D820 or whatever would be the maximum I go for in FF DSLR.

    But framing on birds etc. with a 400mm focal length and a FF DSLR (in my case D800E) has never been a problem, as has not been AFC and AF performance. With the EM1 this is a challenge.

    And looking at your results - I would say that the ones taken with the aged D800E and the 80-400 are dancing circles IQ wise around the Olympus setup with the 300.

    Just my 2c

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    Thanks Peter.

    I can't disagree with your conclusion for some of the images, but not all of them. The OM-D cameras would certainly benefit from better IQ sensors, especially for available light scenarios, needing high ISO. The Oly 300/4 lens no doubt deserves a better sensor IMHO.

    FF cameras certainly have a natural IQ advantage. As you well know, that is not the only criteria people, including me, use when choosing a sensor format.
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    Quote Originally Posted by k-hawinkler View Post
    Thanks Peter.

    I can't disagree with your conclusion for some of the images, but not all of them. The OM-D cameras would certainly benefit from better IQ sensors, especially for available light scenarios, needing high ISO. The Oly 300/4 lens no doubt deserves a better sensor IMHO.

    FF cameras certainly have a natural IQ advantage. As you well know, that is not the only criteria people, including me, use when choosing a sensor format.
    Well, the longer I follow this FF versus APSC versus m43 I come even more to the conclusion that I want overall larger sensor than m43. I think it would be great to have a combination of FF and APSC and say goodbye to m43. I am sure lot of people will disagree especially in a m43 forum, but this is what I am coming back again and again.

    Might happen that I either give Fuji another try for APSC, especially with their meanwhile great 24MP sensor with high IQ, DR etc. Waiting for this level of quality from m43 will take at least 5 years from now and then APSC will have evolved even further.

    And I am not sure how long I want keep waiting at my age, I want to use and enjoy NOW!

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