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    Re: E-M1, E-M5, E-M5.2, etc. ... Peculiarities

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    E-M5.2 (sic) + 300/4.0 PRO @ 300mm.
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    E-M1.2 + Olympus ZUIKO DIGITAL ED 150mm 1:2.0.
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    E-M1.2 + 300/4.0 PRO
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    Re: E-M1, E-M5, E-M5.2, etc. ... Peculiarities

    Two shots from today with mechanical shutter.






    E-M1.2 + MC-14 + 300/4.0 @ 420 mm, f/6.3, ISO 2000, 1/2000 s.
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    E-M1.2 + MC-14 + 300/4.0 PRO.
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    Olympus E-M1MarkII + Olympus M.ZUIKO DIGITAL ED 75mm 1:1.8 @ 75mm. ISO 320, f/1.8, 1/2000 s.


    NO FLASH - Early Morning Sun!

    Olympus E-M1MarkII + Olympus M.ZUIKO DIGITAL ED 40-150mm f2.8 PRO @ 150mm. ISO 640, f/3.2, 1/2000 s.
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    Quote Originally Posted by k-hawinkler View Post
    Two shots from today with mechanical shutter.






    E-M1.2 + MC-14 + 300/4.0 @ 420 mm, f/6.3, ISO 2000, 1/2000 s.
    fantastic shots k-hawinkler. Do you notice any advantages taking these types of shots using the mechanical shutter? Ie any rolling shutter effects using electronic?
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    Re: E-M1, E-M5, E-M5.2, etc. ... Peculiarities

    Quote Originally Posted by mazor View Post
    fantastic shots k-hawinkler. Do you notice any advantages taking these types of shots using the mechanical shutter? Ie any rolling shutter effects using electronic?
    Thanks mazor, much appreciated.
    To answer your questions, yes, yes.
    please have a look here.

    https://www.getdpi.com/forum/sony/56...tml#post729003

    Even with the Sony A9 and its silent/electronic shutter I still can spot rolling shutter effects, but these distortions are greatly reduced and far less noticeable. Most Hummingbird shots don't seem to be affected by that. So shooting the A9 at 20 fps with the silent shutter, the associated benefits outweigh those of the mechanical shutter with max 5 fps.

    Which cameras do you use. Cheers, Karl-Heinz.
    With best regards, K-H.

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    E-M1.2 + MC-14 + 300/4.0 PRO @ 420mm, ISO 6400, f/5.6, 1/2000s.
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    E-M1.2 + MC-14 + 300/4.0 PRO @ 420mm, ISO 6400, f/5.6, 1/2000s.
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    Quote Originally Posted by k-hawinkler View Post

    E-M1.2 + MC-14 + 300/4.0 PRO @ 420mm, ISO 6400, f/5.6, 1/2000s.
    Great C.U. I can't imagine a more contrasting style of bird photography to mine K-H


    Obsolete EM1 + 40-150 PRO @ 150mm, ISO 400, f6.3, 1/1250s. out of a moving minibus window!

    ETA (Maybe it's my obsession with power lines? )
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    Re: E-M1, E-M5, E-M5.2, etc. ... Peculiarities

    Great shot Ian. That old equipment still works great for me as well.

    In order to resolve the eyelashes of the Hummingbirds one has to get even closer than Minimum Focus Distsnce MFD of the lens, as demonstrated by Tony Markle alias Imagemaster over at fredmiranda forum. He is shooting Hummers in Flight HIF with extension tubes! I like the idea and should give it a try.
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    Quote Originally Posted by k-hawinkler View Post
    Thanks mazor, much appreciated.
    To answer your questions, yes, yes.
    please have a look here.

    https://www.getdpi.com/forum/sony/56...tml#post729003

    Even with the Sony A9 and its silent/electronic shutter I still can spot rolling shutter effects, but these distortions are greatly reduced and far less noticeable. Most Hummingbird shots don't seem to be affected by that. So shooting the A9 at 20 fps with the silent shutter, the associated benefits outweigh those of the mechanical shutter with max 5 fps.

    Which cameras do you use. Cheers, Karl-Heinz.
    I currently now use an E-M1 mk2, sold the mk1. Which is better for reducing the rolling shutter effect, the A9 or the E-M1 mk2?
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    Re: E-M1, E-M5, E-M5.2, etc. ... Peculiarities

    Quote Originally Posted by mazor View Post
    I currently now use an E-M1 mk2, sold the mk1. Which is better for reducing the rolling shutter effect, the A9 or the E-M1 mk2?
    Thanks mazor. The A9 is better by quite a bit.

    Shutter readout time for E-M1 mk2: 1/60s
    Shutter readout time for ......... A9: 1/150s or 1/160s as measured by Jim Kasson
    Shutter readout time mech shutter: 1/300s

    Rolling shutter effects are still pretty frequent and pronounced for the silent shutter of the E-M1 mk2.
    In contrast they are very infrequent and far less noticeable for the silent shutter of the A9.

    Of course when using the mechanical shutter in those two cameras rolling shutter effects are basically non-existent.

    So, when shooting Hummers with the E-M1 mk2, I now use its noisy mechanical shutter.
    When shooting Hummers with the A9, I now use its silent shutter.
    With best regards, K-H.
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    Re: E-M1, E-M5, E-M5.2, etc. ... Peculiarities

    Quote Originally Posted by k-hawinkler View Post
    Thanks mazor. The A9 is better by quite a bit.

    Shutter readout time for E-M1 mk2: 1/60s
    Shutter readout time for ......... A9: 1/150s or 1/160s as measured by Jim Kasson
    Shutter readout time mech shutter: 1/300s

    Rolling shutter effects are still pretty frequent and pronounced for the silent shutter of the E-M1 mk2.
    In contrast they are very infrequent and far less noticeable for the silent shutter of the A9.

    Of course when using the mechanical shutter in those two cameras rolling shutter effects are basically non-existent.

    So, when shooting Hummers with the E-M1 mk2, I now use its noisy mechanical shutter.
    When shooting Hummers with the A9, I now use its silent shutter.
    K-H,

    I shot the EM1.2 with silent shutter for quite a bit and I only could see some rolling shutter when photographing rotating wind wheels, but even then the effect was pretty negligible.

    While I am sure the A9 will be even better than the EM1.2, the Olympus performs already pretty well. But I actually also love the EM1.2 mechanical shutter, as it is so much quieter than anything I shot in the past, including Leica M.

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    Re: E-M1, E-M5, E-M5.2, etc. ... Peculiarities

    Problems with Rolling Shutter using the ancient mechanical original EM-1

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    Re: E-M1, E-M5, E-M5.2, etc. ... Peculiarities

    Many thanks Ian.
    Could you please explain the pertinent points about your image? TIA.
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    Re: E-M1, E-M5, E-M5.2, etc. ... Peculiarities

    Many thanks Peter. The only experience I have with rolling shutter artifacts has to do with Hummingbirds In Flight (HIF). For HIF indeed the silent shutter characteristics of the E-M1.2 and A9 are quite different.
    With best regards, K-H.

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    Quote Originally Posted by k-hawinkler View Post
    Many thanks Ian.
    Could you please explain the pertinent points about your image? TIA.
    Nothing pertinent at all K-H; I should have added a few .

    Just an excuse to post a 'Peculiar' image that amused me (which happens to involve rotating wheels that have absolutely nothing to do with rolling shutter effect ) .
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    wow, thanks again k-hawinkler for the info.


    The A9 sounds like it definitely the best when it comes to using E Shutter for action shots. I have heard that when the A9 is doing fast FPS, the RAW bitrate drops from 14bit to 12bit. Not sure if it has been documented but does the E-M1 mk2 record in 12 or 14bit?

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    Time to chime in with some sparrow photos from my front yard. All with EM1.2 and 40-150 PRO plus TC14.

    2017-06-02_0011.jpg by ptomsu, on Flickr

    2017-06-02_0015.jpg by ptomsu, on Flickr

    2017-06-02_0017.jpg by ptomsu, on Flickr
    Life is an ever changing journey
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    Olympus E-M1MarkII + Extension Tubes + M.300mm F4.0 PRO + MC-14 @ 420mm, ISP 2500, f/5.6, 1/640s.
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    From my backyard today ... all with EM1.2 and 40-150 PRO + TC14

    2017-06-03_0020.jpg by ptomsu, on Flickr

    2017-06-03_0032.jpg by ptomsu, on Flickr

    2017-06-03_0046.jpg by ptomsu, on Flickr
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    Sugar water feeder swinging in the wind with bees!



    Olympus E-M1MarkII + Extension Tubes + MC-14 + M.300mm F4.0 @ 420mm, ISO 1600, f/8, 1/800s.
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    Olympus E-M1MarkII + MC-14 + M.300mm F4.0 @ 420mm, ISO 6400, f/5.6, 1/2000s.
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    E-M1.2 300/4 Pro + MC-14
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    E-M1.2 + Nocticron @ f/1.2
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    Re: E-M1, E-M5, E-M5.2, etc. ... Peculiarities

    Quote Originally Posted by k-hawinkler View Post

    E-M1.2 + Nocticron @ f/1.2
    How do you like this 1.2 Nocticron so far?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ptomsu View Post
    How do you like this 1.2 Nocticron so far?
    Vielen Dank Peter.
    I have had the Nocticron 42.5/1.2 for two and a quarter years.
    It's simply fabulous. My one and only PL lens so far.
    It's sharp wide open @ f/1.2.
    I have shot it that way even in bright NM sunshine @ 1/16,000s.
    I don't mind that its mechanical aperture ring doesn't work on an Olympus camera.
    However I do mind that the Nocticron's IS cannot be combined with the IBIS of Olympus' cameras.
    So I use the Nocticron with the IBIS of my OM-D cameras.
    Anyway it's one of my favorite m4/3 lenses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by k-hawinkler View Post
    E-M1.2 + Nocticron @ f/1.2
    speaking of peculiarities ...
    Bart ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Knorp View Post
    speaking of peculiarities ...
    Thanks Bart. Exactly my kind of fun.
    Trying to break it in order to find out its limits.
    As you know well from your own Nocticron, it is holding up quite well indeed!

    From:
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    Olympus E-M1 + LEICA DG NOCTICRON 42.5/F1.2 @ F/1.2, 1/16000 s, ISO=160. Using Aperture priority mode and Auto ISO took care of the exposure.


    From:
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    E-M5.2 + LEICA DG NOCTICRON 42.5/F1.2 @ FL=42.5 mm, F/11, ISO=200, 1/320 s.


    From:
    https://www.getdpi.com/forum/4-3rds-...tml#post688029



    E-M5.2 + LEICA DG NOCTICRON 42.5/F1.2 @ F/2.8, ISO=200, 1/320 s.


    From:
    https://www.getdpi.com/forum/4-3rds-...tml#post688825



    E-M5.2 + LEICA DG NOCTICRON 42.5/F1.2 @ F/1.6, ISO=200, 1/1000 s.


    From:
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    The Nocticron is one of my all-time favorite lenses. Here are a few images from last year.
    • Approaching the Roost in Acrobatic Fashion.
    • More TuVus are Arriving.
    • Playing Musical Chairs - or Finding the Spot for the Night.
    E-M5.2 + Nocticron


    From:
    https://www.getdpi.com/forum/4-3rds-...tml#post689612
    E-M5.2 + Nocticron


    From:
    https://www.getdpi.com/forum/4-3rds-...tml#post713241



    Olympus E-M1 Mark II + LEICA DG NOCTICRON 42.5/F1.2 @ f/1.2, ISO 2000, 1/80s.


    From:
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    Sometimes we get late snow in the middle of April - as happened in 2015.
    E-M5.2 + Nocticron 42.5/1.2
    Of course, that snow is gone by noon. But the freeze over night can kill the blossoms and it did.
    Last edited by k-hawinkler; 17th July 2017 at 07:50.
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    Olympus E-M1MarkII + M.300mm F4.0 + MC-14 @ ISO 400, 420.0 mm, f/5.6, 1/250s.
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    Quote Originally Posted by k-hawinkler View Post
    Olympus E-M1MarkII + M.300mm F4.0 + MC-14 @ ISO 400, 420.0 mm, f/5.6, 1/250s.
    Phew! For I moment you had me think you had shot these with your Nocticron ...

    Bart ...
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    With best regards, K-H.

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    Re: E-M1, E-M5, E-M5.2, etc. ... Peculiarities

    I was wondering what thread to use for these news of mine - but then I found this one and I think it is the most appropriate one.

    Today I finally picked up my Olympus 4/300 Pro. Rests on my desk in my office besides me, unfortunately I do not have my EM1.2 with me right now, but man - what a wonderful piece of glass! I will definitely post some images later, hopefully the strong rain we are currently facing here in Austria passes by soon.

    Why did I get this lens? Especially when being so happy with my Fuji XT2 and that marvellous 100-400? Well there is a simple reason and that is I was going through several weeks, actually months of rethinking what my photographical needs and wishes are and most probably will be in the foreseeable future. So I finally decided to sell all my Fuji gear and stay with Olympus m43 exclusively, at least for the moment. The major reasons for me:

    1) I prefer shooting with the EM1.2 much more than with the Fuji XT2 - for me it is much faster and much more intuitive than the Fuji, although this is a wonderful camera by itself, but my taste is much more what the EM1.2 offers.
    2) The IQ differences between APSC and m43 are very minimal if noticeable at all - again at least for me. So it makes no sense for me to keep both systems in parallel, especially as that constant switching becomes suboptimal as after a few weeks of using one system getting up to speed with the other system takes some time. And my goal is to pick up my camera and operate it in any situation without any problems. And one can expect that the next generation of m43 sensors will be even closer to APSC IP and sensitivity and DR.
    3) The Olympus offers - at least for me - much better control layout and much more advanced custom modes, that allow me to adapt o different environments and shooting requirements much faster.
    4) I see more interesting lenses form Olympus coming than from Fuji - 1.2/45, 1.2/17, etc. Well there is that marvellous Fuji 1.2/56, but man this lens is slow, contrary to the Oly 1.2/45, which is blazing fast and has at least as dreamy bokeh as the Fuji.
    5) There are much more lens choices out in m43 land than there will probably ever be for the Fuji X system. So m43 total available glass will always exceed the X system.
    6) IBIS and Dual IS are now available and are already performing in a stellar way - Fuji only has to start with IBIS and while I believe they definitely will be successful, some years will pass before their IBIS reaches the quality of the Olympus IBIS.
    7) The m43 system I use and prefer is a lot lighter than an equivalent Fuji X system.

    So here I am and for the moment very happy camper with ONLY ONE System! Might that change? Well sure, whenever I see enough reason to get in FF mirrorless in addition to m43. But for the moment - even with the latest and greatest Sony cameras like A9 and A7RIII this is still not enough for me to jump on it.

    Fell free to agree or disagree, at least for me this is how my photographic gear will look like in the near (or even far) future.
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    It finally stopped heavy raining after a few hours, so I quickly took some first shots with my new 4/300 Pro on the EM1.2

    This is a stunning lens, IBIS with lens IS is out of this world and it remains still a pretty compact combo. Build quality is definitely above the Fuji 100-400!

    It is a great macro lens too ...
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    Some from my backyard,
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    The moon shot - will not be my last one with that lens ...
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    Moiré, Silent Rolling Shutter Artifacts with E-M1.2 + 300/4 Pro



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    Two different days, two different cameras, two different lightings,
    may be the same Red-Naped Sapsucker.



    Olympus E-M1MarkII + OLYMPUS M.300mm F4.0 Pro @ ISO 800, FOCAL LENGTH 300.0 mm, APERTURE f/4.5, EXPOSURE TIME 0.004s (1/250).




    Sony ILCE-9 + FE 100-400mm F4.5-5.6 GM OSS + 1.4X Teleconverter @ ISO 5000, FOCAL LENGTH 560.0 mm, APERTURE f/8, EXPOSURE TIME 0.001s (1/1000).
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    K-H,

    I very much prefer the Olympus shot - maybe I am biased

    Well no, it has better color, better contrasting, better details, better background, ....

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    Quote Originally Posted by ptomsu View Post

    Today I finally picked up my Olympus 4/300 Pro. Rests on my desk in my office besides me, unfortunately I do not have my EM1.2 with me right now, but man - what a wonderful piece of glass! I will definitely post some images later, hopefully the strong rain we are currently facing here in Austria passes by soon.
    Ptomus, really interesting hearing your views on this lens and on the comparison with the two systems (Fuji and Olympus). I am trying to sell some other kit so I can afford to buy it, even though I would be using it on my GH5. Your first results are very encouraging.


    Quote Originally Posted by k-hawinkler View Post
    Two different days, two different cameras, two different lightings,
    may be the same Red-Naped Sapsucker.
    The Sony photo might have a tad more contrast and slight improvement in sharpness but both of these are marginal and either shot is perfect. But I would expect the ergonomics of the Olympus combination to outweigh using the Sony combination. I went with m43rds for bird photography because tramping around the countryside I need minimum weight and maximum reach (in equivalent focal length). I can't help feeling the Panasonic/Olympus could gain a very good niche amongst bird/wildlife photographers by really promoting their systems for this use.

    For information, when I was trying to decide between the Nikon D500 and 300pf+1.4 extender and the GH5 and 100-400 I did a weight/cost comparison. Here are the results.

    (Camera/Lens/Weight/Price UK)
    GH5+100-400 (200-800mm): 1.79 Kg - GBP £3K
    Nikon D500+300pf+1.4e (630mm): 1.70Kg - GBP £3.7K
    Canon 7DMkII+400mm f5.6L (640mm): 2.55Kg - GBP £2.6K
    Olympus OMD-M2+300/4 (600mm): 1.77Kg - GBP £3.9K

    As you can see, the classic Canon birding solution - which is the 7DmkII+400L - is by far the cheapest but also the heaviest! One very positive aspect of the Canon solution is that there is so much kit available second hand from reputable sellers (with warranties). In fact I could own that solution by carefully chosing second hand kit for about GBP £1.5K - which makes it the cheapest of all solutions. However, for me the solution is too heavy compared to the GH5 and D500 solutions. Plus when I tried the Canon solution out in the shop I found the viewfinder cramped and immediately missed not having live view.

    The Nikon solution is feted as being one of the best out there in terms of IQ, especially as all m43rds cameras tend to lose sharpness due to noise above iso1250 (in my experience). I have shot up to iso2000 and with careful post processing preserved details but it is a lot of hard work. I regularly see D500 shots at anything up to iso5000 which are astonishingly clean and sharp. It is also the lightest solution of all. The main drawback with the Nikon is that the 300pf does not have enough reach on its own and needs the 1.4 extender (at least) and you are (of course) limited to only one focal length.

    The Olympus+300/4 is a considerably more expensive solution compared to the GH5+100-400. I anticipate that in terms of IQ the lens it is sharper than the 100-400 but I do not like the ergonomics of the OMD-MkII (this is of course entirely personal). The GH5, imho, is the best body of available for m43rds in terms of ergonomics - but at the disadvantage of the weight. When I am tramping the streets of London photographing for my books or stock - I am embarassed to say I use my GX8, as it is more compact and lighter!

    All in all, if I was wealthy enough I would give house room to my GH5+100-400 and the OMD-II+Oly 300/4. And deep in my little black heart I would also invest in the D500+300pf+1.4e for those dark days of winter when m43rds just will not cut it. But back in the real world, I think my next purchase - if any would be the 300/4.

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    LouisB,

    I really loved my Fuji XT2 and even more so the 100-400, this is maybe one of the best wildlife combos available today, I would rate it definitely better than anything you can put together from Canon or Nikon!

    Having said that, wildlife is not everything and for me the EM1.2 fits better than the XT2, that means I can operate the EM1.2 almost while sleeping, while the XT2 required lot more attention for proper operation. I am obviously not the typical Fuji camera user, as most of them cannot praise their cameras and controls high enough. For me with turned out to be contrary in favour of the Olympus!

    WRT lens quality and overall quality coming out from my m43 gear there is almost no IQ difference, at least for what I am asking compared to Fuji X. I shoot the Olympus 2.8/40-140 (also many times with the TC1.4) since more than 3 years now and the quality and operability of that lens is second to none. Now the 4/300 Pro is even made to a much higher standard, also compared to the Fuji 100-400 and from the first few photos I have taken this is pretty obvious to me. It plays definitely in a different league and I only can hope that Olympus will add a high end PRO zoom like a 4/75-300 or similar to their lineup. I would buy that within a heartbeat, as I have no doubt it would be phantastic.

    How the 4/300 performs on a GH5 I cannot say, optically it will remain the superior lens and I think when you are willing to loose the Dual IS, which might make you loose some steadiness for longer exposure times, you will be very happy with it. But I would try it first on a GH5, mainly because this is not a light lens and that could be disturbing for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ptomsu View Post
    LouisB,

    I really loved my Fuji XT2 and even more so the 100-400, this is maybe one of the best wildlife combos available today, I would rate it definitely better than anything you can put together from Canon or Nikon!

    Peter
    Peter

    Thanks for your further thoughts. Matthieu Gasquet over at MirrorLessons rates the XT2/100-400 as second only to the EM1-MkII+Oly300/4

    It is worth reading his article here.

    I was actually offered this combination in part-exchange for my Leica Q, which I would like to sell to fund my wildlife addiction and the only reason I turned it down is that I did not want to start yet another camera system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by biglouis View Post
    Peter

    Thanks for your further thoughts. Matthieu Gasquet over at MirrorLessons rates the XT2/100-400 as second only to the EM1-MkII+Oly300/4

    It is worth reading his article here.

    I was actually offered this combination in part-exchange for my Leica Q, which I would like to sell to fund my wildlife addiction and the only reason I turned it down is that I did not want to start yet another camera system.

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    LouisB,

    I could not agree more with Matthieu!

    WRT another camera system - this was the MAIN reason for me to sell my Fuji gear - to get rid of my second system. And I am very sure this was the right decision.

    In your case I would really try the GH5 with the 3/400 and if it works for you I would go for it. Actually it should work brilliantly. If not you should try the 4/300 with the EM1.2 - but please make sure you do that with someone who really understands this camera - it has so much to offer what is not obvious from a 10000m view but only when someone already very deep in this system (camera) supports you. And WRT a second system in case of the EM1.2 - well this is not really a second system as we know, only necessary to learn a new camera

    Best regards

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    I would like an E-M1.3 that matches the Electronic Shutter Speed (ESS) of 1/150 s of the Sony A9 - or better of course. At 1/300 s ESS a mechanical shutter is redundant and should be left out of a camera.

    Of course speed has a unit of length/time and is incorrect here.
    But I like ESS better than the Sensor Read Out Time (SROT).
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    Quote Originally Posted by k-hawinkler View Post
    I would like an E-M1.3 that matches the Electronic Shutter Speed (ESS) of 1/150 s of the Sony A9 - or better of course. At 1/300 s ESS a mechanical shutter is redundant and should be left out of a camera.

    Of course speed has a unit of length/time and is incorrect here.
    But I like ESS better than the Sensor Read Out Time (SROT).
    Who would not like this EM1.3?

    But I think Olympus will first come out with the EM5.3 that probably will have that function and it should be kind of easy to top the Sony A9's 1/150s, as the sensor is much smaller. Hopefully this sensor has at least 20MP, actually I would prefer 24MP and it should be doable if one thinks about what Sony can already squeeze out of their smaller sensors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ptomsu View Post
    Who would not like this EM1.3?

    But I think Olympus will first come out with the EM5.3 that probably will have that function and it should be kind of easy to top the Sony A9's 1/150s, as the sensor is much smaller. Hopefully this sensor has at least 20MP, actually I would prefer 24MP and it should be doable if one thinks about what Sony can already squeeze out of their smaller sensors.
    I am sure I read somewhere that Olympus's philosophy with respect to camera churn is that they plan on the EM1.2 having a five year cycle, to benefit the cost of ownership. If I recall this statement correctly you may have to wait another 3-4 years for the next evolution of the product.

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    Well, Olympus has to adjust to be competitive.

    The silent shutter of the E-M1.2 with 1/60 s ESS is useless for Hummingbirds in Flight because of rolling shutter artifacts. So back to the noisy slow mechanical shutter for that.

    The Sony A9 has Olympus easily beat.
    Sony's FE 100-400/4.5-5.6 GM OSS lens with TCs is an amazing accomplishment as well.

    Sony announced for release next year an FE 400/2.8 prime lens.
    I am sure it is as heavy as my Olympus FT 300/2.8 prime lens.
    With best regards, K-H.

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    Quote Originally Posted by biglouis View Post
    I am sure I read somewhere that Olympus's philosophy with respect to camera churn is that they plan on the EM1.2 having a five year cycle, to benefit the cost of ownership. If I recall this statement correctly you may have to wait another 3-4 years for the next evolution of the product.

    LouisB
    It was almost exactly 3 years between the introduction of the EM1 (autumn 2013) and the EM1.2 (autumn 2016). If that cycle continues we will see and EM1.3 in autumn 2019.

    Hmmmm - that sound too long, I think they will have to speed up in order to keep pace with Sony and Panasonic .....

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    Some from today with the 4/300 - all handheld!!!! What a marvellous piece of glass

    The first one is with TC1.4 this late afternoon - some not too heavy crop applied ....
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