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    Olympus M.ZUIKO Digital ED 12-100mm F4.0 PRO lens available

    Probably the most versatile Olympus Pro lens

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvwQBAsBNRM

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    Re: Olympus M.ZUIKO Digital ED 12-100mm F4.0 PRO lens available

    Great review of the 4/24-100 (and also the 1.2/25)

    http://www.stevehuffphoto.com/2016/0...-1-2-pro-lens/

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    Re: Olympus M.ZUIKO Digital ED 12-100mm F4.0 PRO lens available

    £1,099 in the UK.
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    Re: Olympus M.ZUIKO Digital ED 12-100mm F4.0 PRO lens available

    Quote Originally Posted by ptomsu View Post

    Ridiculous, I know, but shouldn't show images from both lens in the same post --- the 12-100 which is undoubtedly an excellent addition to the 'Pro' line almost seems like the 12-50 after viewing the 25 f1.2 images!

    Like drinking white wine after red....
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    Re: Olympus M.ZUIKO Digital ED 12-100mm F4.0 PRO lens available

    Both lenses look very good, and for a 2 lens kit on any of the larger m4/3 bodies, they look perfect. Add the PanaLeica 12/1.4 and 42.5/1.2, and I'm ready for the world

    Both of them focus very closely, 15 cm for the zoom and 19 for the prime. For me, that means not having to worry about a macro lens when travelling. Great!

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    Re: Olympus M.ZUIKO Digital ED 12-100mm F4.0 PRO lens available

    Some samples at DPreview. I must say they look rather good, imho.

    https://www.dpreview.com/news/609737...-world-samples

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    Re: Olympus M.ZUIKO Digital ED 12-100mm F4.0 PRO lens available

    Quote Originally Posted by biglouis View Post
    Some samples at DPreview. I must say they look rather good, imho.

    https://www.dpreview.com/news/609737...-world-samples

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    Whenever I look at one of dpr's sample galleries, this one included, the only thought I'm able to come up with is "Why on earth don't they hire a photographer?". Or is that irrelevant for a camera website?

    Thank you for the link anyway

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    Re: Olympus M.ZUIKO Digital ED 12-100mm F4.0 PRO lens available

    Quote Originally Posted by Jorgen Udvang View Post
    Whenever I look at one of dpr's sample galleries, this one included, the only thought I'm able to come up with is "Why on earth don't they hire a photographer?". Or is that irrelevant for a camera website?

    Thank you for the link anyway
    I do have the same thoughts actually. I was pretty unimpressed by the samples they provide, but not because of bad IQ from lens/camera, but because these shots are just less than mediocre.

    Having said that, I think the 12-100 would make a perfect all around lens especially in combination with an EM1mark2

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    Re: Olympus M.ZUIKO Digital ED 12-100mm F4.0 PRO lens available

    I had a closer look at some of the photos. It looks like a nice lens. Not prime sharp of course, and maybe a lack of microcontrast, but it seems to be relatively evenly sharp across the frame except for the extreme corners, and even they are very acceptable. I do like the general rendering, and the transitions from in focus to out of focus seem to work very well. Absolutely worth considering as a walk-around lens

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    Quote Originally Posted by ptomsu View Post
    I do have the same thoughts actually. I was pretty unimpressed by the samples they provide, but not because of bad IQ from lens/camera, but because these shots are just less than mediocre.

    Having said that, I think the 12-100 would make a perfect all around lens especially in combination with an EM1mark2
    Already flirting with some new mft gear after your recent love affair with the new Fuji?

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    Quote Originally Posted by retow View Post
    Already flirting with some new mft gear after your recent love affair with the new Fuji?
    I am using both systems meanwhile - hopefully the best from each system for each application

    So I definitely will not leave m43 and look forward to some of the announced great gear - PanaLeica glass, EM1m2, .....
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    Re: Olympus M.ZUIKO Digital ED 12-100mm F4.0 PRO lens available

    I've had the lens for a couple of days. Here are my first thoughts:

    http://www.pattayadays.com/2016/11/olympus-12-100mm/
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    Re: Olympus M.ZUIKO Digital ED 12-100mm F4.0 PRO lens available

    I wish it could have been stretched to f/3.5 or even a f/2.8–3.5. f/4 seems slow to me.
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    Re: Olympus M.ZUIKO Digital ED 12-100mm F4.0 PRO lens available

    Quote Originally Posted by mediumcool View Post
    I wish it could have been stretched to f/3.5 or even a f/2.8–3.5. f/4 seems slow to me.
    It could of course, but it would have been larger and more expensive. The new PanaLeica 12-60mm will be f/2.8-4.

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    Re: Olympus M.ZUIKO Digital ED 12-100mm F4.0 PRO lens available

    FWIW, Ming Thein --in his review of the E-M1 (II)-- seems quite favorably impressed with the 12-100/4. (And, as always, unfavorably disposed to Steve Huff.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jorgen Udvang View Post
    It could of course, but it would have been larger and more expensive. The new PanaLeica 12-60mm will be f/2.8-4.
    I have a Zuiko 14–54 f/2.8–3.5 which is very good wide-open at all focal lengths, and it auto-focuses quite well on my Olympus E-M5, so I am in no mood for an immediate change! But the Panasonic has much less zoom-zoom-zoom than the 12–120, and for what price?

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    Quote Originally Posted by drofnad View Post
    FWIW, Ming Thein --in his review of the E-M1 (II)-- seems quite favorably impressed with the 12-100/4. (And, as always, unfavorably disposed to Steve Huff.)

    -d.
    Huff should work for DPReview. Why? His pictures are about as uninspiring as the majority of those made by editorial staff on DPReview!

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    Re: Olympus M.ZUIKO Digital ED 12-100mm F4.0 PRO lens available

    Quote Originally Posted by mediumcool View Post
    I have a Zuiko 14–54 f/2.8–3.5 which is very good wide-open at all focal lengths, and it auto-focuses quite well on my Olympus E-M5, so I am in no mood for an immediate change! But the Panasonic has much less zoom-zoom-zoom than the 12–120, and for what price?
    I use the great PanaLeica 14-50mm f/2.8-3.5 myself, which is also an important reason for having the E-M1. That's a great lens in every way, and if the new 12-60 is anything like that, I would just love to throw the E-M1 out of the window and replace it with anything Panasonic. I'm sure the price will be bad, and the reach doesn't hold water compared to the Zuiko, but distributed over a couple of decades and tens of thousands of photos, I will be happy to live with that.

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    I made up my mind to resist and DEFINATLEY DO NOTHING about a 12-100 until the new PL12-60 is out in March ......


    ...... I've just ordered a 12-100
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elderly View Post
    I made up my mind to resist and DEFINATLEY DO NOTHING about a 12-100 until the new PL12-60 is out in March ......


    ...... I've just ordered a 12-100
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    Re: Olympus M.ZUIKO Digital ED 12-100mm F4.0 PRO lens available

    The real reason that I weakened is that I'm very shortly off on a trip to Kerala and Tamil Nadu .

    However my pre-order has not appeared in time and so I cancelled the order and decided to happily use my 12-40 and 40-150 Pro combination.

    But for some strange reason just after I put the phone down to cancel, I phoned another camera shop ........



    ....... and all of a sudden .......



    ....... I no longer have my 12-40, but do have a 12-100
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    Have a great trip, Ian.
    And happy shooting !
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    Re: Olympus M.ZUIKO Digital ED 12-100mm F4.0 PRO lens available

    Compact Camera Meter
    is a side-by-sizing view of 12-40, 12-100, 12-60, & 35-100 on Gx7s & 1 Gx85.

    It appears that of these only the 35-100/2.8 has a fixed lengh (any FL),
    all others extending.




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    Re: Olympus M.ZUIKO Digital ED 12-100mm F4.0 PRO lens available

    Quote Originally Posted by drofnad View Post
    It appears that of these only the 35-100/2.8 has a fixed lengh (any FL),
    all others extending.



    I'll be able to confirm that in a couple of days. My E-M1 was sold yesterday, and as by magic, the shop got a used 35-100mm f/2.8 in at the same time. It's on its way

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jorgen Udvang View Post
    I'll be able to confirm that in a couple of days. My E-M1 was sold yesterday, and as by magic, the shop got a used 35-100mm f/2.8 in at the same time. It's on its way
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    Re: Olympus M.ZUIKO Digital ED 12-100mm F4.0 PRO lens available

    Quote Originally Posted by Elderly View Post
    I made up my mind to resist and DEFINATLEY DO NOTHING about a 12-100 until the new PL12-60 is out in March ......


    I've just ordered a 12-100
    Definitely?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mediumcool View Post
    Definitely?
    Definatley !
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    Re: Olympus M.ZUIKO Digital ED 12-100mm F4.0 PRO lens available

    I'm sitting here, with my fingers in my ears so I can't hear you all (which makes typing this response extremely difficult by the way). Until this lens was released I saw no flaw in my 12-40. I tend to prefer wide over tele. But now, I keep wondering if 12-100 and 25 would be a great travel combo, so I can leave the 12-40 and 40-150 at home. But then again...

    Nah nah nah, I can't hear you!

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    Re: Olympus M.ZUIKO Digital ED 12-100mm F4.0 PRO lens available

    Old thread this, but I have a question about the Zuiko 12-100mm. I don't know why I haven't thought about this before, but that's the price of geting old an slow I guess.

    I have two GX8 bodies. When I travel, one is often equiped with the Panasonic 100-300mm II, the other one with an assortment of primes. I have considered buying the 12-35 and/or the 35-100mm again, but that combo and the 100-300mm always left me one body short. For some reason, in spite of all the great reviews when it was launched, I have never considered seriously buying the Zuiko 12-100mm, maybe because I've considered it a waste since it would work better on an Olympys body with dual IS and all.

    But, look at this setup. It's a perfect match. 12-300mm high quality optics in two lenses. They are almost the same size and weight too, and the IS in the 12-100 seems to be good enough to manage on its own anyway. Very convenient for travel and events, with 2-3 primes in the bag. And travel I do, despite all empty promises of slowing down.



    So my question is: Those of you who have used this lens for a year or two, are you still satisfied with it? Are there any downsides that I should know about?
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    12-100 + 100-300 = 'no brainer'
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    I was an early adopter and it suits MY shooting style, but I've paired it with the Panasonic 50 - 200 as I don't need anything longer
    and would rather have the extra speed over the 100 - 300.

    If I was only allowed ONE extant lens in my M4/3rds life, it would be this one!

    But to answer your question:
    The only downsides for me are that I'd like it to be able to focus a little closer
    and the manual focus clutch is too easy to pull into the wrong mode.
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    Re: Olympus M.ZUIKO Digital ED 12-100mm F4.0 PRO lens available

    Quote Originally Posted by Elderly View Post
    I was an early adopter and it suits MY shooting style, but I've paired it with the Panasonic 50 - 200 as I don't need anything longer
    and would rather have the extra speed over the 100 - 300.

    If I was only allowed ONE extant lens in my M4/3rds life, it would be this one!

    But to answer your question:
    The only downsides for me are that I'd like it to be able to focus a little closer
    and the manual focus clutch is too easy to pull into the wrong mode.
    Thank you for your feedback. I too consider going for the PL 50-200 in the future, but then in combination with the PL 10-25mm f/1,7 that will (hopefully) be available next year. However, those are each much more expensive than a used copy of the Zuiko, and none of them are likely to turn up used anytime soon, at least not in Thailand.

    In other words: I need something that will work for me now, and since I already have the 100-300mm, the 12-100 seems like a good idea, which you have confirmed

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    Re: Olympus M.ZUIKO Digital ED 12-100mm F4.0 PRO lens available

    Quote Originally Posted by Knorp View Post
    12-100 + 100-300 = 'no brainer'
    You may be on to something here. Several close relatives and friends have repeatedly, and under the most embarrassing circumstances, suggested strongly that I might actually lack a brain, which would make this combo a perfect choice

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    Jorgen, I think that you should try it for handling/balance on the smaller (than my EM1 MK2) bodies that you might use this lens with, before committing to purchase.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elderly View Post
    Jorgen, I think that you should try it for handling/balance on the smaller (than my EM1 MK2) bodies that you might use this lens with, before committing to purchase.
    I will. If I buy it, new or used, I'll most probably buy it locally anyway, unless I find some exceptionally low price elsewhere. When that is said, the GX8 is almost exactly the same size as the E-M1 models although with a shallower grip, and I do use it regularly with the 100-300mm which again is the same weight and size as the 12-100mm.

    There's another factor here:
    I've been considering buying a G9 for the rather nice price it's selling for here at the moment. However, with the E-M1X on the horizon, I think I will wait and see what that camera has to offer. Even though that will be a bigger camera, the G9 is already quite substantial, and the new Olympus might actually be a better option for my paid work and even for video. Time will show. For that camera, the 12-100mm would obviously be a great choice.

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    Re: Olympus M.ZUIKO Digital ED 12-100mm F4.0 PRO lens available

    Reading this and other threads on this forum, I'm reminded again of how fortunate we are to have so many great lens choices from Olympus and Panasonic.

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    Re: Olympus M.ZUIKO Digital ED 12-100mm F4.0 PRO lens available

    Quote Originally Posted by bensonga View Post
    Reading this and other threads on this forum, I'm reminded again of how fortunate we are to have so many great lens choices from Olympus and Panasonic.

    Gary
    No, no, no, no, no... m4/3 is dying. Some Youtube Hero said so

    But honestly, I just spent half an hour watching an episode of a TV documentary series that my father directed 40 years ago for Norwegian State Broadcasting. For technical quality, on a scale form 1 to 10, I would give that episode a 2 since it was in colour, modern full frame cameras 9.9 and m4/3 9.75. And yes, they did use the best gear money could buy. All these discussions about this format vs. that format is marketing driven crap. M4/3 is as good as I'll ever need, and if you see me with a full frame digital camera, it's because I too has fallen for the pixel peeper propaganda

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    Re: Olympus M.ZUIKO Digital ED 12-100mm F4.0 PRO lens available

    Quote Originally Posted by Jorgen Udvang View Post
    No, no, no, no, no... m4/3 is dying. Some Youtube Hero said so

    But honestly, I just spent half an hour watching an episode of a TV documentary series that my father directed 40 years ago for Norwegian State Broadcasting. For technical quality, on a scale form 1 to 10, I would give that episode a 2 since it was in colour, modern full frame cameras 9.9 and m4/3 9.75. And yes, they did use the best gear money could buy. All these discussions about this format vs. that format is marketing driven crap. M4/3 is as good as I'll ever need, and if you see me with a full frame digital camera, it's because I too has fallen for the pixel peeper propaganda
    Well I wouldn’t call the technical comparisons crap but the insistence that EVERYONE NEEDS FF is. There are some unique advantages to each system. If compactness and price is paramount Micro 4/3 wins all day on equivalent terms. If lowlight, more shallow DoF, smoother tonality/transition is more important the larger sensors pull ahead. You can make excellent photos with either (in the right hands) but there will always be the argument to be made that a great shot taken with a “better” camera could make a great shot even better.

    For video with manual lenses theres an argument that Micro 4/3 is preferred for having greater DoF and ensuring you “get the shot” without an extraneous amount of focusing tools because not every production can afford dedicated focus pullers.
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    A Krook's story ... The ultimate travel lens?
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    Re: Olympus M.ZUIKO Digital ED 12-100mm F4.0 PRO lens available

    Quote Originally Posted by Knorp View Post
    A Krook's story ... The ultimate travel lens?
    I'm sure this Oly is an excellent lens. For me, if I had to pick a single comparable m43 lens for travel it would be my PL 12-60/2.8-4. The FF equiv 24-120 mm focal length handles most of my travel photo needs. It is a very good deal for USD $798 (after a $200 rebate).

    https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produ...t_12_60mm.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by bensonga View Post
    I'm sure this Oly is an excellent lens. For me, if I had to pick a single comparable m43 lens for travel it would be my PL 12-60/2.8-4. The FF equiv 24-120 mm focal length handles most of my travel photo needs. It is a very good deal for USD $798 (after a $200 rebate).

    https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produ...t_12_60mm.html

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    The alternative for me is probably the PL 10-25mm f/1.7 plus the PL 50-200mm f/2.8-4. My 100-300mm has now developed an AF problem. I'll see what I do.

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    Re: Olympus M.ZUIKO Digital ED 12-100mm F4.0 PRO lens available

    Quote Originally Posted by Jorgen Udvang View Post
    The alternative for me is probably the PL 10-25mm f/1.7 plus the PL 50-200mm f/2.8-4. My 100-300mm has now developed an AF problem. I'll see what I do.
    I was thinking of which lens I would take for travel if I only wanted one lens (and one camera). I usually take a pair of GX8s with a 12-35/2.8 and 35-100/2.8. I really like those two compact and fast lenses with internal zoom designs.

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    Re: Olympus M.ZUIKO Digital ED 12-100mm F4.0 PRO lens available

    Quote Originally Posted by bensonga View Post
    I was thinking of which lens I would take for travel if I only wanted one lens (and one camera). I usually take a pair of GX8s with a 12-35/2.8 and 35-100/2.8. I really like those two compact and fast lenses with internal zoom designs.

    Gary
    I liked that combo a lot too, but the 35-100 was sometimes too short. The 100-300 on the other hand is more than long enough, and often too long at the short end. The 50-200 seems to be a good compromise, although bigger, heavier and more expensive than both.

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    Re: Olympus M.ZUIKO Digital ED 12-100mm F4.0 PRO lens available

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    I will. If I buy it, new or used, I'll most probably buy it locally anyway, unless I find some exceptionally low price elsewhere.
    £764 new at Clifton Cameras in the UK today - a bit far for you to travel just for …...
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    Re: Olympus M.ZUIKO Digital ED 12-100mm F4.0 PRO lens available

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    £764 new at Clifton Cameras in the UK today - a bit far for you to travel just for …...
    Yes, although the price difference would have paid for half the airline ticket. However, I returned from Myanmar 10 minutes ago, was in the south of Thailand earlier this week, Vietnam last week and India next week... I'd rather pay not to spend more time on airplanes and in airport lounges

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    Re: Olympus M.ZUIKO Digital ED 12-100mm F4.0 PRO lens available

    I have a brother-in-law who at the moment is living in Thailand.....

    ….. I could buy it and when he next returns to the UK give it to him to take back out there?
    Ian.

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    Re: Olympus M.ZUIKO Digital ED 12-100mm F4.0 PRO lens available

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    I have a brother-in-law who at the moment is living in Thailand.....

    ….. I could buy it and when he next returns to the UK give it to him to take back out there?
    Thank you for the offer. Unfortunatly, I have kind of promised myself not to buy any espensive new gear this year. I think I'll stick with that for now. A new, more economical car is on the shopping list before this lens.

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    Re: Olympus M.ZUIKO Digital ED 12-100mm F4.0 PRO lens available

    I recently "upgraded" from the Panasonic G85 to the Olympus E-M1 Mark II. A principal reason is for moving birds with the Panasonic 100-400 and perhaps better performance in lower light situations. I find my taste has changed, too, in that I find the menus on the Mark II really understandable and that I like the controls on the Olympus a bit better.

    I also want to upgrade my lenses for landscape and general purpose travel.

    I either want to pair the Olympus 12-40 with the Panasonic 35-100 or just get the Olympus 12-100. I had the 12-40 previously with the E-M1 Mark I, and liked the result but never loved the lens. While heavier and a bit slower, I like the idea of the one lens and the lens stabilization system with the body.

    Any thoughts?

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    Re: Olympus M.ZUIKO Digital ED 12-100mm F4.0 PRO lens available

    Quote Originally Posted by Elliot View Post
    I recently "upgraded" from the Panasonic G85 to the Olympus E-M1 Mark II. A principal reason is for moving birds with the Panasonic 100-400 and perhaps better performance in lower light situations. I find my taste has changed, too, in that I find the menus on the Mark II really understandable and that I like the controls on the Olympus a bit better.

    I also want to upgrade my lenses for landscape and general purpose travel.

    I either want to pair the Olympus 12-40 with the Panasonic 35-100 or just get the Olympus 12-100. I had the 12-40 previously with the E-M1 Mark I, and liked the result but never loved the lens. While heavier and a bit slower, I like the idea of the one lens and the lens stabilization system with the body.

    Any thoughts?
    Well, the 12-40 is really a stunning piece of glass and I would always add it as my base lens I go with. Razor sharp, fast, reasonably small, .....

    I would add the 4/12-100 as a general purpose lens, but it cannot do what the 12-40 can - this one can actually replace a number of primes with just one lens ....

    Food for thought

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    Re: Olympus M.ZUIKO Digital ED 12-100mm F4.0 PRO lens available

    Quote Originally Posted by Elliot View Post
    I recently "upgraded" from the Panasonic G85 to the Olympus E-M1 Mark II. A principal reason is for moving birds with the Panasonic 100-400 and perhaps better performance in lower light situations. I find my taste has changed, too, in that I find the menus on the Mark II really understandable and that I like the controls on the Olympus a bit better.

    I also want to upgrade my lenses for landscape and general purpose travel.

    I either want to pair the Olympus 12-40 with the Panasonic 35-100 or just get the Olympus 12-100. I had the 12-40 previously with the E-M1 Mark I, and liked the result but never loved the lens. While heavier and a bit slower, I like the idea of the one lens and the lens stabilization system with the body.

    Any thoughts?
    The 12-100 plus the 100-400 sounds like a great combination, two quality zoom lenses covering an enormous range, although limited to f/4 and above. I prefer not to take more than two zoom lenses when I'm out and about, since they take up a lot of space in my bag. The exception was the 12-35/35-100mm Panasonic pair which is of exceptional quality while still small and compact.

    For me, the choice at the moment is between buying the 12-100mm and keeping the Panasonic 100-300mm, versus buying the PL 10-25mm f/1.7 and the PL 50-200mm f/2.8-4. That would give me less reach but a stop more light and possibly sharper images.

    I've never tried the 12-40mm, since I was more than happy with the 12-35 which also offered dual IS with my Panasonic cameras.

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