New Olympus High End m43 Camera

[ptomsu]

Maybe the first leaked images of the EM1X ??? Or just fake?

https://www.43rumors.com/ft4-are-these-the-first-leaked-image-of-the-new-e-m1x/

Anyway it looks monstrous IMHO :facesmack:

 

[Elderly]

Looking at that image ……… OMD = Olympus Monstrous Disaster
and E-MIX = Emphatically Mixed Up.

I'd just like to see some worthwhile firmware updates to my present EM1 MkII.

 

[Jorgen Udvang]

Looks cool. A very serious piece of metal. If I were still shooting motor sports, I would be on the waiting list for this one. I might still be looking for an excuse to buy one. If the video specs and quality is somewhere along the lines of the GH5s...

 

[Jorgen Udvang]

However... a backside photo is also up now. There are a couple of possible deal breakers for me there:

- The bloody 1/2 switch. It drove me mad when I had the E-M1. Why do they need it? Panasonic has the AF mode switch at that position, which is perfect.
- On/off switch still on the left side, although at a better location than before. Cannot switch on the camera if held with one hand.
- The playback switch is placed too low. Makes it difficult or impossible to use when holding the camera with one hand (G9 and GH5 have it on the left side though. GX8 and G85 have it where I need it, under my thumb.)

But there are positive things as well:
- The whole starboard size looks oversized, which will make it easy to hold with heavy lenses.
- The command wheels also look large, which is good.
- Fully articulated LCD :thumbup:
- Viewfinder seems to be well protected from stray light.

I don't understand the logic of the button layout though. Maybe it's not for me anyway...

GX8 II please!

 

[iiiNelson]

Mybe it’ll feel great in hand but it looks like a weird Franken-camera based on the rumored pics. I agree that the button layout seems strange but Olympus has always had their own thing going on IMO.

 

[ptomsu]

In my eyes this camera looks ugly! The 1DX looks much better, so does the D5!

Anyway the buttons seem to be very similar to the EM1.2 and i never had any complaints about that, so I assume continuing using this EM1X coming from the EM1.2 will be pretty flawless.

Having said that I do not like the size and it looks even bigger and bulkier compared to the EM1.2 with grip added. This whole concept completely negates all the main advantages of m43 being compact and relatively light weight.

Why could they not just come with a EM1.3 instead with a little less features :banghead:

From what I see now and heard about this camera so far I might no longer be a user of this system. Not too bad, as also other mothers have nice daughters - Z6 / Z7 or S1 / SR1.

 

[Jorgen Udvang]

This is not the E-M1 II replacement. I'm sure there will be an E-M1 III also. This is a specialist camera for sports, action and wildlife phototgraphy, possibly also for video. Ugly? It looks functional, like it means business. It makes me want to grab it, go out and take some photos. It's as if DeWalt made a camera and forgot the yellow paint.

 

[ptomsu]

This is not the E-M1 II replacement. I'm sure there will be an E-M1 III also. This is a specialist camera for sports, action and wildlife phototgraphy, possibly also for video. Ugly? It looks functional, like it means business. It makes me want to grab it, go out and take some photos. It's as if DeWalt made a camera and forgot the yellow paint.

For that price why would you go this route? There are plenty of other possibilities - and the size/weight argument does not count any longer with that EM1X.

Knowing product development cycles from Olympus a EM1.3 is then at least 2 more years down the road - 2021?

 

[iiiNelson]

For that price why would you go this route? There are plenty of other possibilities - and the size/weight argument does not count any longer with that EM1X.

Knowing product development cycles from Olympus a EM1.3 is then at least 2 more years down the road - 2021?

I agree with Jorgen and based on rumors this is the penultimate flagship (think A9) while the EM1-3 is still to come. There’s a good chance that it’s been developed alongside the EM1X and maybe they deliver a camera that’s 90-95% of it in a smaller package. Even still since you don’t have any real skin in any game besides Olympus. I’d stay where you are until Nikon releases their Z6/7 replacements (to correct the glaring shortcomings) and you have hands on time with the Lumix S and Olympus offerings - or just go back to Fuji.

 

[k-hawinkler]

Considering my substantial collection of Olympus lenses (including FTs: 150/2 SHG, 90-250/2.8 SHG, 300/2.8 SHG, 1.4x, 2x TC, mFTs: 300/4 Pro, 1.4x TC, 40-150/2.8 Pro, ...) a fabulous, superior E-M1X with built in grip, that gives the Sony A9 a run for the money (including faster sensor readout time, respectively a global shutter), is exactly what I am looking for! :thumbs: :salute:

 

[ptomsu]

Considering my substantial collection of Olympus lenses (including FTs: 150/2 SHG, 90-250/2.8 SHG, 300/2.8 SHG, 1.4x, 2x TC, mFTs: 300/4 Pro, 1.4x TC, 40-150/2.8 Pro, ...) a fabulous, superior E-M1X with built in grip, that gives the Sony A9 a run for the money (including faster sensor readout time, respectively a global shutter), is exactly what I am looking for! :thumbs: :salute:

Unfortunately the EM1X while ticking most of your boxes does definitely NOT have global shutter - at least according to all rumors I have read.

 

[ptomsu]

I agree with Jorgen and based on rumors this is the penultimate flagship (think A9) while the EM1-3 is still to come. There’s a good chance that it’s been developed alongside the EM1X and maybe they deliver a camera that’s 90-95% of it in a smaller package. Even still since you don’t have any real skin in any game besides Olympus. I’d stay where you are until Nikon releases their Z6/7 replacements (to correct the glaring shortcomings) and you have hands on time with the Lumix S and Olympus offerings - or just go back to Fuji.

I hear you and I will wait anyway. Just a bit angry because this new Olympus incarnation does diverge so heavily from what I have expected.

 

[iiiNelson]

I hear you and I will wait anyway. Just a bit angry because this new Olympus incarnation does diverge so heavily from what I have expected.

Well, I understand that and will say that it's still worth trying out once released. You may find that you like it better than expected and it'll save you a ton of time and money to continue with your existing lenses that are available now for relatively affordable prices. Moving to FF will add a lot of costs to the equation and outside of Sony, no one else will have a remotely complete native lineup in FF by next year. So I guess it comes down to which tradeoffs you want to deal with.

 

[ptomsu]

New "official" pictures of the EM1.X

https://www.43rumors.com/ft5-all-full-olympus-e-m1x-pictures/

Looks a little bit nicer now, but still too big IMHO

 

[Jorgen Udvang]

That looks seriously tempting. I just wish I needed one :banghead:

Christmas gift 2020? :chug: :ROTFL:

 

[Jorgen Udvang]

It's important to remember that this camera enters a market segment where there are only four competitors, the Sony A9 (+grip), the Nikon D5, the Canon 1DX II and the Nikon D500 as an outsider. I won't go into advantages and disadvantages of the different cameras, and the preference are highly individual. Also, there are too many uknowns about the Olympus yet, both with regards to specs and new lenses to be released. However, for my own needs, should I consider entering the sports photography field again, and considering my age, the alternatives would be this or the D500, simply due to the weight and size of high end telephoto lenses. I don't need the shallow DOF of a full frame sensor and I rarely if ever need the light gathering abilities. If the E-M1X offers exceptional video capabilities, particularly with regards to slo-mo (240 frames 1080p/120 frames 4K would be nice. The GH5s does 240/1080p but "only" 60/4K), it's a certain winner.

 

[k-hawinkler]

Sensor readout time? <— That’s the question! :grin:

 

[Jorgen Udvang]

Sensor readout time? <— That’s the question! :grin:

Yes, that and processing capacity/speed.

 

[k-hawinkler]

Yes, that and processing capacity/speed.

Thanks Jorgen. Exactly! :thumbs:
Can’t have one being fast without the other being fast too, IMHO!

 

[ptomsu]

It's important to remember that this camera enters a market segment where there are only four competitors, the Sony A9 (+grip), the Nikon D5, the Canon 1DX II and the Nikon D500 as an outsider. I won't go into advantages and disadvantages of the different cameras, and the preference are highly individual. Also, there are too many uknowns about the Olympus yet, both with regards to specs and new lenses to be released. However, for my own needs, should I consider entering the sports photography field again, and considering my age, the alternatives would be this or the D500, simply due to the weight and size of high end telephoto lenses. I don't need the shallow DOF of a full frame sensor and I rarely if ever need the light gathering abilities. If the E-M1X offers exceptional video capabilities, particularly with regards to slo-mo (240 frames 1080p/120 frames 4K would be nice. The GH5s does 240/1080p but "only" 60/4K), it's a certain winner.

The EM1X should do 120 frames 4k external and 60 frames 4k internal - I forgot about 4.X.X

I would prefer the EM1X anytime over the D500, especially for video. I have a good photography friend - she switched for a D5 to a Z7, especially as she needs lot of video and she swears meanwhile in the mirrorless solution.

I am still in observation mode as the features of the EM1X all seem not so much for my needs and will decide as soon as the camera is out and reviewed a bit which way I will continue in the future - either stay with m43 with or without the EM1X or move completely the FF path (most likely Z6/Z7 then) mainly also because a want / need a FF mirrorless for adapting lot of legacy FF glass from Olympus, Minolta, Leica and Nikon.

Time will tell.