E-P1 is out....

[Brian Mosley]

paf - stop whinging and use contact lenses :ROTFL:

Seriously, this camera is a compromise, just not as much of a compromise as a d-lux4. I don't much like composing on an LCD, but I don't like doing it on an EVF either, and adding a dreary viewfinder and a rubbish on board flash doesn't seem to me to be a good swap for a larger camera

Tetchy, but funny and accurate :salute: :ROTFL:

Cheers Jono, sure you can't join us in London? hope your supplier has a solid order!

Cheers

Brian

 

[Lars]

paf - stop whinging and use contact lenses :ROTFL:

Seriously, this camera is a compromise, just not as much of a compromise as a d-lux4. I don't much like composing on an LCD, but I don't like doing it on an EVF either, and adding a dreary viewfinder and a rubbish on board flash doesn't seem to me to be a good swap for a larger camera

Jokes aside... Not sure what contact lenses would fix... I use mine all the time but that doesn't help me focus at near range. A viewfinder would make that a non-issue. Then there's the issue of supporting handheld shots. With such a light camera, holding it with just two hands (and not supporting it with your eyebrow) is a major drawback WRT stability. It will be lightyears behind a massive rangefinder like an M with regards to handholdability.

Obviously it's possible to make a tiny built-in flash, I can only see pure greed (sell more accessories) behind the omission of a built-in flash. Plain stupid.

 

[davemillier]

Not a problem, 35mm at f11 my favourite settings.

5D is fullframe and E-P1 is 2x crop, your choices of fast WA lens are limited.

../azul123

 

[jonoslack]

Tetchy, but funny and accurate :salute: :ROTFL:

Cheers Jono, sure you can't join us in London? hope your supplier has a solid order!

Cheers

Brian

Well - it really wasn't meant to be tetchy - simply trying to be funny.

As for London, I think I'll be in Baku, and it's a long step from their to London!

As for the solid order - I'm sure it is, they do a lot of Olympus stuff, and I try not to by anything (except Leica) from anyone else.

 

[jonoslack]

Jokes aside... Not sure what contact lenses would fix... I use mine all the time but that doesn't help me focus at near range. A viewfinder would make that a non-issue. Then there's the issue of supporting handheld shots. With such a light camera, holding it with just two hands (and not supporting it with your eyebrow) is a major drawback WRT stability. It will be lightyears behind a massive rangefinder like an M with regards to handholdability.

Obviously it's possible to make a tiny built-in flash, I can only see pure greed (sell more accessories) behind the omission of a built-in flash. Plain stupid.

HI Lars
it really was meant to be a joke. As for the contact lenses, it does actually help, but I need one for distance and one for close-up - this actually works very well, I do take your point with respect to the viewfinder - I think everyone would like one. However, personally, I cordially dislike EVF viefinders, and I never use a built in flash (really never).

 

[monza]

Then there's the issue of supporting handheld shots. With such a light camera, holding it with just two hands (and not supporting it with your eyebrow) is a major drawback WRT stability. It will be lightyears behind a massive rangefinder like an M with regards to handholdability.

Don't forget it has image stabilization, there should be no worries about hand holdability.

 

[Ranger 9]

Don't forget it has image stabilization, there should be no worries about hand holdability.

Image stabilization plus a stable hold is still going to be better than image stabilization plus an unstable hold...

... Wait! I've got it!

 

[monza]

Be careful of using the 'pod' word, you might be up for trademark infringement.

 

[Vivek]

Ranger,

Nice idea.

Woudn't have worked, for this shot.

Old G1, a custom c-mount 12.5mm f/1.4 lens, the wretched swivel TFT screen came in handy. :ROTFL::ROTFL:

 

[Ranger 9]

And to solve the problem of the LCD washing out in bright light, we could add this...

 

[monza]

How low can one go?

 

[Ranger 9]

Nice idea.

Woudn't have worked, for this shot.

Nonsense, the Forehead-Pod would have let you get the same shot with an E-P 1 simply by standing on your head.

Hey, nobody said being fashionable was going to be easy...

 

[Vivek]

Robert, Seriously, is that a shot from the E-P1?

Looks like banding (background) to me! Up until now, I suspected the "new" E-P had an edge over the "old" G1 in terms of image quality?

 

[Vivek]

Nonsense, the Forehead-Pod would have let you get the same shot with an E-P 1 simply by standing on your head.

Hey, nobody said being fashionable was going to be easy...

Herewith, I tender my unreserved apologies.

 

[Bill Gordon]

If you are looking for PDF brochures on the E-P1 ..

There is a scanned version of an official looking brochure here http://www.biofos.com/mft/ep-1_pre.html

and a downloadable PDF brochure here that looks different http://www.vistek.ca/marketing/product_launches/olympus-pen.aspx?t=Resources

I also had a look at the video samples on the second link and was quite impressed. :bugeyes:

Tim

I had a good look at the PDF from Vistek where I shop, and I am wondering...If I were to buy the camera will I also get the girl with it??:angry:

 

[Mike Hatam]

Image stabilization plus a stable hold is still going to be better than image stabilization plus an unstable hold...

... Wait! I've got it!

ROTFLMAO!!!!

 

[monza]

Robert, Seriously, is that a shot from the E-P1?

Looks like banding (background) to me! Up until now, I suspected the "new" E-P had an edge over the "old" G1 in terms of image quality?

Nope, that's a G1 shot with the kit lens. Otherwise I would have had my belly on the grass...that's not banding, just an out of focus building.

 

[jonoslack]

And to solve the problem of the LCD washing out in bright light, we could add this...

:ROTFL::ROTFL::ROTFL::thumbs:
Thank you - you've made my afternoon.

 

[nostatic]

paf - stop whinging and use contact lenses :ROTFL:

Seriously, this camera is a compromise, just not as much of a compromise as a d-lux4. I don't much like composing on an LCD, but I don't like doing it on an EVF either, and adding a dreary viewfinder and a rubbish on board flash doesn't seem to me to be a good swap for a larger camera

The question/problem: is there a lens for the EP1 that is as fast as the DLux4 glass? Right now looks like 17/2.8 (effective 34/2.8) vs 24-60 2.0/2.8. I use 24/2.0 a lot on the DLux4.

I actually like framing with LCD so that isn't an issue. And given my use last week, a little extra size relative to the DLux4 wouldn't be an issue and bigger sensor is always welcome, but a slow lens is a killer.

And if I have to spent $8K on a noctilux and adapter that isn't a solution

 

[etrigan63]

You could order the CV Nokton 50mm f/1.1 for $1100 or do what I did: I bought a 50mm f/1.4 OM Zuiko on Ebay for $70.