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    Re: Having fun with the E-P1

    Quote Originally Posted by bradhusick View Post
    Thanks, Mike. That was a big help. I don't think the EP1 is a worthy substitute for the M8 quite yet. I do think they'll get there some day. Watch out, Leica.

    One more point - if your vision isn't 20/20 there's another issue. If you're farsighted (you need reading glasses) then focusing through an M8 viewfinder is a piece of cake since your focus is distant. If you're using an LCD up close (arm's length or less) then you probably need your reading glasses to focus the camera. Switch this if you're nearsighted (need glasses for driving). I used to be nearsighted but got LASIK eye surgery a few years ago and love the fact that I don't have to wear glasses when using cameras with viewfinders (M8 and SLRs). When I use point-and-shoot cameras I rely on autofocus since I typically don't carry my reading glasses.
    Good point. However, using the LCD is very nice for those who wear glasses.
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    Re: Having fun with the E-P1

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mancuso View Post
    Hey folks just got this from B&H for you to look at . Although most of this info maybe right here on GetDPI as it should . LOL

    Check it out though , maybe some tidbit you folks missed, although I seriously doubt it.

    http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/find/n...igital-Pen.jsp
    Thought I would add this to Guy's link. More m4/3rds info
    http://view.bhphotovideo.com/v/IB2NI...N/MAILACTION=1

    Interestingly enough, the bit about adaptors leads one to think that NOvoflex is going to have an EOS to 4/3rds adaptor which means one could use the 4/3rds to m4/3rds adaptor to use them--and one would assume if they go to that bother to make one that it would have electrical contacts. That might interest me--for my TS. B & H also says they will have a number of adaptors by August--for all lens systems they say.

    Also--I read this and am not sure I understand what it means. Can anyone with an EP-1 clarify if this is true?
    "You can even manually enter the focal length of the lens you're shooting with for additional stability, which becomes increasingly important with longer focal length lenses. (This function is performed automatically with Micro 4/3 and standard 4/3 lenses)"

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    Re: Having fun with the E-P1

    Diane,
    You go into the IS function on the main control panel and then hit the +/- EV button and are given a scrolling list of focal lengths. Put in the focal length of the lens you are shooting and the camera will then adjust the IS to match the focal length. For the 4/3 and m4/3 the camera gets that from the lens contacts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TEBnewyork View Post
    Diane,
    You go into the IS function on the main control panel and then hit the +/- EV button and are given a scrolling list of focal lengths. Put in the focal length of the lens you are shooting and the camera will then adjust the IS to match the focal length. For the 4/3 and m4/3 the camera gets that from the lens contacts.
    Ah--very cool. I have read that the EP-1 is very customizable--much more so than the G1. Interesting.
    Thanks Terry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Hatam View Post
    Good point. However, using the LCD is very nice for those who wear glasses.
    I thought the M8 didn't have AF for it's lenses.

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    Re: Having fun with the E-P1

    Quote Originally Posted by voyager View Post
    I thought the M8 didn't have AF for it's lenses.
    We are discussing the ease of manual focus, not auto-focus. The topic came up as we were discussing how easy it is to focus a Leica 50 lux on the E-P1 vs on the M8.

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    Re: Having fun with the E-P1

    Quote Originally Posted by TEBnewyork View Post
    Diane,
    You go into the IS function on the main control panel and then hit the +/- EV button and are given a scrolling list of focal lengths. Put in the focal length of the lens you are shooting and the camera will then adjust the IS to match the focal length. For the 4/3 and m4/3 the camera gets that from the lens contacts.
    This is the same as for the Oly 4/3 system cameras with IS -- manual inputting of focal length.
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    Re: Having fun with the E-P1

    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Campbell View Post
    This is the same as for the Oly 4/3 system cameras with IS -- manual inputting of focal length.
    Pentax DSLRs with in-body IS (like my K10D body) do the same. :-)

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    Re: Having fun with the E-P1

    OK here goes with the CV 12 vs the Panny 7-14 @ 12mm.
    Jpegs straight from the camera imported to Lightroom no adjustments. Cropped, standard Lightroom export sharpening for screen output.

    E-P1 on solid tripod completely level. Aperture priority (you can yell at me for that but it shouldn't matter here), manually focused on far edge of white building (closest to the bridge). Image stabilization turned off.

    First up the scene ( user error at getting the wall on bottom left but I don't think it will make too much of a difference) Panny 7-14 @ f5.6



    Panny @ f4


    Panny @ f5.6


    CV @ f5.6


    Panny @ f8


    CV @ f8


    Panny @ f11


    CV @ f11


    CV looks sharp out at f11 and has less CA through the range. Feels like Panny shows more CA on the E-P1 than on the G1 where Panasonic may have better optimized the CA removal in their processing. Once I have a real processing RAW processing I will work on these. This was pretty much a torture test. If anyone wants the RAW files, I have them all available.
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    Re: Having fun with the E-P1

    Well, I'll be darned - the Panny kicks butt. Thanks very much Terry - you saved me the hassle of buying a CV 12 for the E-P1.

    The Panny 7-14 is quite impressive.

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    Re: Having fun with the E-P1

    I had the CV 12 on my M8 and used it for a while on the G1. I thought it was less than impressive on the G1 and sold it. I would go for the Panny 7-14.

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    Re: Having fun with the E-P1

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Hatam View Post
    Well, I'll be darned - the Panny kicks butt. Thanks very much Terry - you saved me the hassle of buying a CV 12 for the E-P1.

    The Panny 7-14 is quite impressive.

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    Even if you got similar results you get an extra stop, and you go all the way down to 14mm and here is a size comparison that might be easier for you to relate to

    There is a CV35 f2.5, CV75, 21 elmarit, 75 cron and the 7-14. 7-14 and 75 cron are the same height!!! Trust me when you first hold the 7-14 it is shocking.




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    Re: Having fun with the E-P1

    Panny also has purple fringing along the white lines. Easy fix but there
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    Re: Having fun with the E-P1

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mancuso View Post
    Panny also has purple fringing along the white lines. Easy fix but there
    I know, I did mention it at the bottom of the post that I think that the same lens on the Panny has it better corrected in their processing. Also, it will be interesting to see what happens when I have Raw support and can easily make corrections.

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    Re: Having fun with the E-P1

    Yea need raw support here since you are using a Panny lens on the Oly and it may not be in the jpeg engine to fix it. I have a action that took it right out.

    May want to see if the same shot with your Oly zoom is showing the effect but not sure you can actually turn everything off in the EP-1 to see if it is
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    Re: Having fun with the E-P1

    Terry - how does the CV 75 (f2.5) perform on the mft bodies (G1 and/or E-P1)? That's another one I'm considering for use on my E-P1.
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    Re: Having fun with the E-P1

    The 50 lux has been glued to my E-P1 for the past few days. Here are some casual walk-around shots from the combo.

    I really like this combo. I'm going to try the CV 40/1.4 to see if it renders a similarly pleasing image on the E-P1.
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    Re: Having fun with the E-P1

    Mike that will be the lens test for tomorrow. I took some shots at the ballpark that I wasn't very happy with but wasn't really sure what the issue was the other night. It was exacerbated by the fact that I shot RAW only by mistake and I don't don't know RAW developer all that well.

    I just took these two in my apartment but they are high ISO samples in yuck light.

    These were both close focus and the ball park was more infinity focus so that's what I need to deal with. Sorry about the WB on my wilting basil (harder to get good WB in post with jpegs). Both at ISO 1600. lens wide open.




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    Maybe a silly question

    Do the Panasonic micro 4/3 lenses such as the 7-14 fit on the E-P1 without any adaptors, in other words can all micro 4/3 lenses fit either the Panasonic G1 or the Olympus E-P1 without adaptors

    Thanks for your help

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin_b1 View Post
    Maybe a silly question

    Do the Panasonic micro 4/3 lenses such as the 7-14 fit on the E-P1 without any adaptors, in other words can all micro 4/3 lenses fit either the Panasonic G1 or the Olympus E-P1 without adaptors

    Thanks for your help

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    Re: Having fun with the E-P1

    Is this our thread for E-P1 pics?

    Here are a couple from yesterday...

    E-P1 + mZD 14-42 kit lens
    1/1250s f/6.3 at 42.0mm iso400


    E-P1 + Hexanon 57mm f1.2
    1/125s f/5.6 iso200


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    Re: Having fun with the E-P1

    Quote Originally Posted by Brian Mosley View Post
    Is this our thread for E-P1 pics?
    Hi Brian
    that was certainly my intention - lovely shots, I particularly like the bee.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonoslack View Post
    Hi Brian
    that was certainly my intention - lovely shots, I particularly like the bee.
    Sorry Jono if you feel hijacked...at least most of the test shots were taken with the E-P1.

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    Re: Having fun with the E-P1

    Quote Originally Posted by TEBnewyork View Post
    Sorry Jono if you feel hijacked...at least most of the test shots were taken with the E-P1.
    Hi Terry
    of COURSE not - it was meant to be what it said, and your test shots are invaluable and interesting. Fun to look at, even if not so much fun to do!


    Really sorry if I seemed to be implying anything else

    I've long since lost 'ownership' of this one anyway!

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    thanks for the info everyone. I'm really considering this little camera now. and thanks for the summilux 50 shots, as that's what I would be using if I do get the e-p1.

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    My E-P1 and me... a new love affair....

    one of the first shots

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    Quote Originally Posted by kweide View Post
    My E-P1 and me... a new love affair....

    one of the first shots

    Hello Klaus,

    very nice, which lens? I'm still waiting for my E-P1

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    Re: Having fun with the E-P1

    Quote Originally Posted by kweide View Post
    My E-P1 and me... a new love affair....

    one of the first shots
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    Re: Panasonic Lens

    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin_b1 View Post
    Maybe a silly question

    Do the Panasonic micro 4/3 lenses such as the 7-14 fit on the E-P1 without any adaptors, in other words can all micro 4/3 lenses fit either the Panasonic G1 or the Olympus E-P1 without adaptors

    Thanks for your help

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    Re: Having fun with the E-P1

    Brian - I love the look of the Hexanon. Very nice. Was that shot wide open?
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    Re: Having fun with the E-P1

    Quote Originally Posted by kweide View Post
    My E-P1 and me... a new love affair....

    one of the first shots

    Wow - very nice. Looking forward to seeing more, and hearing what lens you used.
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    Re: Having fun with the E-P1

    Is the EP-1 available anywhere with the 17mm f2.8 lens and viewfinder?
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    The flowershot done with the 14-42. Surprising quality. But now i am going for a Leica Adpater to mount my cron 90.
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    Re: Having fun with the E-P1

    Congratulations Klaus.

    John, 17 kit not available yet in the US. I was going to get that kit and ended up getting the 14-42 and the 17 lens on it's own. I like the little zoom. Glad I got that kit. The close focus ability of the lens is a great additional benefit. The 17 has closer focus than you would expect but Klaus' flower is a good example from the zoom.

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    Thanks Terry. Do you know if the white body is available or is the silver the only body available?
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    I'm awaiting an update from our Olympus rep regarding shipments...but in general the silver/black 14-42 is the most available. We have not seen any white units, and were told not to take orders for them as they are not making many yet. The kits with 17mm lens are also more difficult to get...

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    Re: Having fun with the E-P1

    Hi,

    I just checked the offers on the "evil bay" and found that the availability is not that bad

    See here :

    http://shop.ebay.com/?_from=R40&_trk...All-Categories

    and 299 $ for the 17mm pancake lens doesn't seem too expensive

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    If you want to pay $300 more than retail for the kit, sure!

    There are a few 17mm lenses out there, allocation is tight to the dealers however. Some dealers will put them on ebay if they don't have local buyers.

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    I'm told we'll be getting 17mm kits as soon as tomorrow, no later than Monday, as well as 17mm lenses. We have no one in the queue for a 17mm kit, if you want to be first, drop me a PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by monza View Post
    I'm told we'll be getting 17mm kits as soon as tomorrow, no later than Monday, as well as 17mm lenses. We have no one in the queue for a 17mm kit, if you want to be first, drop me a PM.
    You lucky one.... none 17mm kit here in Germany.....But i can live with that for the next 3 weeks. Tomorrow i will leave for Italy vacation and yes, the E-P1 is with us...the white one.

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    Re: Having fun with the E-P1

    Quote Originally Posted by kweide View Post
    You lucky one.... none 17mm kit here in Germany.....But i can live with that for the next 3 weeks. Tomorrow i will leave for Italy vacation and yes, the E-P1 is with us...the white one.
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    Re: Having fun with the E-P1

    a first review of the Pancake:

    http://www.lenstip.com/183.1-Lens_re...roduction.html

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    Have to say really liking this camera, got the 14-42mm kit lens waiting for the 17mm to arrive here in the UK.

    Attached are some photos from the first couple of days.

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    Re: Having fun with the E-P1

    Well--got to drool over the EP-1 today when I skipped down to Charlotte to try one out--and pick up a 17 f/2.8. The salesperson (who is an Oly shooter) had sold an EP-1 this morning--and they have one more. No more lenses, so I lucked out, but they expect more of both very soon.

    Overall--I liked the camera very much. He said that the man who bought it this morning took it out in the bright sunlight (we happened to be there--precariously driving through Charlotte's always under construction streets in a 'toad strangler'--for those not Southern--this is about as fast as water can fall from the skies LOL--so I couldn't try it out in sunshine) to try it, shot for awhile, came back and said "YES--gotta' have it". So--there you are LOL. I thought the LCD was quite alright. The 14-42 did nicely, focused quick enough. I took 2 MF lenses--tried those out with adaptors (an FD and the MA-1) and they did very well. Focused nicely--though we couldn't figure out how to get to the MF assist--got the manual out and tried, but he was busy, so since I KNEW it worked, wasn't concerned. However--focusing normally with it set to MF--worked just fine when I turned the focusing ring of the two MF lenses. I also took the 9-18 and tried it with the MA-1 and it did just great.

    So---I came away thinking this would be a terrific camera to own. I was more emotionally taken with its form--liked it in hand very much--but couldn't, in the end, justify 2 m4/3rds bodies right now and I don't think I would give up the G1 for it.

    The 17 f/2.8 makes the G1 a very small package--it protrudes just to about the grip--perhaps a bit more--on the G1. It did great AF in our very dark end of our studio/office a bit ago without any problem at all. Think I'm going to like it very much. I'll do some shooting with it tomorrow when I have time.

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    Here's the 17mm on my G1.

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    Re: Having fun with the E-P1

    How would you compare images between G1 and EP-1 with 17mm pancake?
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    Re: Having fun with the E-P1

    OK,
    I decided not to completely bore everyone to tears and posted shots from the following 75mm lenses

    Leica Summicron (f2.0)
    Voigtlander (f2.5)
    Panasonic 45-200 (f4.4)

    Here is the link:

    http://forum.getdpi.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8655

    Have fun

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    Great comparison Terry - this is very helpful. Thanks for all your efforts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by monza View Post
    Here's the 17mm on my G1.
    Thanks Monza. I mentioned in my lower light shots on other thread that I would post a pic of the 17 on the G1--but now I won't need to.

    I really like the lens on the G1--mainly shot at f/2.8 tonight with higher ISO, but no hesitation on AF--and quiet also. The lens doesn't protrude much more than the grip so its quite a nice little package. I'm going to try and take some time and go out and shoot primarily with the 17 tomorrow sometime--various subjects, apertures, etc.

    I did forget to mention MF focusing with it--just twist the focusing ring is all it needs.

    If you like this FL--I suspect you will like the lens. It keeps it small, light and gives us a faster AF lens.

    I might mention--as Terry did--the teeny tiny lens cap. I can see it disappearing quickly so guess I need to start looking for some extras.

    Diane

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