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    G1 with Zuiko 17 f/2.8 lens

    I'm really pleased with the Oly M.Zuiko 17 f/2.8 lens so far. I had a chance to pick one up today (and play with an EP-1) so drove down to Charlotte (Biggs Camera--about last camera store that can honestly call itself one in the city) and tried it.

    We went to a wine tasting--and when we got back it was quite late--dusk, but I thought--what a good time to try out a fast lens. All of these were taken close to 8:30EDT--so pretty doggone low light.

    f/4.5 1/25s ISO800 Part of our entrance garden and my studio


    Entrance gong and studio again
    f/3.5 1/25s ISO640


    echinachea/Sundown with cannas f/2.8 1/30s ISO500


    daylily f/2.8 1/60s ISO640


    BE Susans at pond f/2.8 1/20s ISO800 (only one I ran NR)


    Black Eyed Susans--focus on rear 3rd flower
    f/2.8 1/30s ISO640


    All were handheld, shot in RAW, processed in LR, taken into PS to resize and frame, so used PKS for output sharpening. Oh, and I actually used the LCD to compose and focus. I should mention that the 17 focuses very quickly and quietly--never any problem getting focus in low light--and I also tried interiors in virtually no light to speak of except some outside--what there was left--coming in through windows. This is a keeper.

    I plan to just spend some time shooting just with this lens and maybe I'll choose the Hexanon 40 f/1.8 tomorrow and see how that works as a very small kit.

    So far--I can say that I'm very happy I bought the lens--its quite small (I'll take a pic of it on G1 tomorrow)--but silver %>( It would be great on the EP-1 *smile*.

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    Re: G1 with Zuiko 17 f/2.8 lens

    Diane,
    These look really nice. I was doing one of my lens tests tonight so only boring pictures. It is nice having two companies come to market with m4/3. Hopefully we will continue (actually start) to get lenses at a regular pace.

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    Re: G1 with Zuiko 17 f/2.8 lens

    I also posted this in another thread, this will save you the effort, Diane.


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    Re: G1 with Zuiko 17 f/2.8 lens

    Nice rectangular 37mm shade... (I have no association with seller)

    http://cgi.ebay.com/37-mm-Lens-Hood-...ayphotohosting

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    Re: G1 with Zuiko 17 f/2.8 lens

    I might mention that one of the 'cons', if you can put it that way, of the EP-1 is the very very VERY small lens cap. While shooting with it and my Hexanon 40 f/1.8 today--I must have misplaced the cap 20 times. Well, at least I thought I misplaced it. I would put it in the bag--but its so small and light, I couldn't really feel it when I would put my hand back in to retrieve it. Think I will have to find a dozen of them or so LOL.

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    Re: G1 with Zuiko 17 f/2.8 lens

    Quote Originally Posted by Diane B View Post
    Think I will have to find a dozen of them or so LOL.

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    Re: G1 with Zuiko 17 f/2.8 lens

    This should help:

    http://doiop.com/lenscaps

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    Re: G1 with Zuiko 17 f/2.8 lens

    Thank you Monza. He went into my favorite sellers immediately for purchase of 10 caps later today. I KNOW I will lose a couple over the year LOL. I've only lost one lens cap in years and years---but this little thing--its going to get slipped between something and I'll misplace it for a good while--maybe only to find it again, but in the meantime, I'll have extras.

    You have all kinds of good resources at your finger tips. Thanks again.

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    Re: G1 with Zuiko 17 f/2.8 lens

    Not sure where to post this--and no need to start a new thread, but.... After shooting all day with the 17 and my Hexanon 40 f/1.8--(I did stick in the 14-45 but didn't mount it, but did shoot a bit with the 9-18) I determined what I would really like is a Panny or Oly 24-28mm fast prime. Then--I wouldn't have to carry several adaptors, would have AF (though I use MF quite a lot and enjoy it and feel I have more control)--but really--just have to carry maybe 3 small fast lenses--a 45 or 50 would be super also. I know the 25 would have to be larger, but I'd welcome it if its quite a bit smaller than the Oly 25 f/1.4 without adaptor.

    So--that's my wish list for the m4/3rds.

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    Re: G1 with Zuiko 17 f/2.8 lens

    By the way, I called Biggs camera and while they don't have any more 17mm lenses by themselves, they DO have the E-P1 kit with the 17mm lens....

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    Quote Originally Posted by peterm1 View Post
    By the way, I called Biggs camera and while they don't have any more 17mm lenses by themselves, they DO have the E-P1 kit with the 17mm lens....

    Peter
    Peter, Monza posted that Precision Camera in TX also has the 17 kit now too.

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    Re: G1 with Zuiko 17 f/2.8 lens

    Quote Originally Posted by monza View Post
    This should help:

    http://doiop.com/lenscaps
    Thanks Monza....back ups on the way.

    For those interested in additional rear lens caps (I keep my adapters attached to some lenses). Here is a link for those. Haven't received any yet to know quality.

    http://cgi.ebay.com/2-rear-lens-cap-...3A1%7C294%3A50

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    Re: G1 with Zuiko 17 f/2.8 lens

    The original Olympus rear lens cap is:

    Rear lens cap LR-2 260056 $4.99

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    Re: G1 with Zuiko 17 f/2.8 lens

    Quote Originally Posted by Vivek View Post
    The original Olympus rear lens cap is:

    Rear lens cap LR-2 260056 $4.99
    Try and find them in stock. They don't exactly seem to be sitting on dealers shelves in the US....

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    Re: G1 with Zuiko 17 f/2.8 lens

    Agreed - they are not in stock anywhere.

    So I ordered a bunch of these yesterday from the same ebay ad that Terry linked.

    I like to glue two rear caps, back to back, so that I can store two lenses in the same pocket of my camera pouch. I used this method with my M lenses, and it's very convenient. Keeps the lenses from rattling around and rubbing against each other when in the back.

    But I like to buy extra caps to do this, so that I still have my "single" caps when I need them.
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    Re: G1 with Zuiko 17 f/2.8 lens

    Great tip Mike. I bought a bag of lens caps, rear and front, for my FDs. I can do that with the several FDs I carry regularly.

    Thanks,
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    Re: G1 with Zuiko 17 f/2.8 lens

    I'm working on a project--Highway 70/Across North Carolina and used the M. Zuiko 17 f/2.8 and Hexanon 40 f/1.8 for most all shots Friday. These were shot in RAW, but processed for consistency for the end printing--and for the look I wanted.



    For anyone that has heard of kudzu, the bane of the South, this is what it can create--a surreal landscape.





    Not for project



    Have more that I haven't processed--got more keepers for project than expected and about 2/3 with the 17 surprisingly. Then--some in the loop away from this highway. Turned out to be a decent shooting day and the sky was lovely--or at least the way I like for b & w shooting.

    One more--I'll probably use the 40mm shot/composition but also liked this one.


    Pbase seems to be updating or something today--some of my galleries have wrong color BG and things are slow, so these may not link quickly.

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    Last edited by Diane B; 13th July 2009 at 09:19.

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    Re: G1 with Zuiko 17 f/2.8 lens

    Hi Diane do you know how well it would do for indoor shots for kids? Do you think the flash would still be required. Is it too slow for such things? Thanks

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    I can shoot indoors easily--and the AF is quick--but--if you don't have light on the faces of the kids, you will end up with a properly exposed photo--but dark foreground possibly--and depending upon the shutter speed, the kids could be blurs. IOW--the areas around lamps, windows will be 'right' but the kids, if not in light, may not suit you. I tried shooting very dark interiors the first night and it does well--jumped up to my max IOS800 at f/2.8, but AF without hunting. I didn't try fast moving. It will all depend upon your shutter speed in your light. Maybe someone that has one will try it for shooting kids indoors.

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    Re: G1 with Zuiko 17 f/2.8 lens

    Quote Originally Posted by Diane B View Post
    I'm working on a project--Highway 70/Across North Carolina and used the M. Zuiko 17 f/2.8 and Hexanon 40 f/1.8 for most all shots Friday. These were shot in RAW, but processed for consistency for the end printing--and for the look I wanted.

    http://www.pbase.com/picnic/image/11...7/original.jpg

    For anyone that has heard of kudzu, the bane of the South, this is what it can create--a surreal landscape.

    http://www.pbase.com/picnic/image/11...6/original.jpg
    http://www.pbase.com/picnic/image/11...4/original.jpg

    Not for project

    http://www.pbase.com/picnic/image/11...3/original.jpg

    Have more that I haven't processed--got more keepers for project than expected and about 2/3 with the 17 surprisingly. Then--some in the loop away from this highway. Turned out to be a decent shooting day and the sky was lovely--or at least the way I like for b & w shooting.

    One more--I'll probably use the 40mm shot/composition but also liked this one.
    http://upload.pbase.com/picnic/image...0/original.jpg

    Pbase seems to be updating or something today--some of my galleries have wrong color BG and things are slow, so these may not link quickly.
    Looks like a great project, Diane! A wide and a portrait tele are a great combination of lenses to work with. Keep going! :-)

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    Re: G1 with Zuiko 17 f/2.8 lens

    Quote Originally Posted by FredB View Post
    Hi Diane do you know how well it would do for indoor shots for kids? Do you think the flash would still be required. Is it too slow for such things? Thanks
    A wide to normal f/2.8 lens is fine for a lot of indoor, available light work (I work with the ZD 25/2.8 quite a lot of the time). You simply have to learn how to use ISO 400-800-1600 and make good exposures so as to get the quality you want.

    Of course, moving subjects are always a challenge in dim lighting. Both on focusing and on subject movement. That takes practice and study to do well.

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    Re: G1 with Zuiko 17 f/2.8 lens

    A few more with the G1 and 17 f/2.8

    One of the few times I've used the overhead/tiltable LCD, but the AF on the 17 f/2.8 is quite good and put it where I wanted it.










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    Re: G1 with Zuiko 17 f/2.8 lens

    Diane,

    These B&W photo's look great.

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    Well seen and captured. Wonerful processing.

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    Re: G1 with Zuiko 17 f/2.8 lens

    Wonderfull pics, Diane.
    Excellent b&w conversions and the sepia toning adds to the overall effect !

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    Thanks all. Rafael, I tend to like my b & w toned a bit--whether just slightly warmed or a bit more at times. May go back to when it was so difficult to print a neutral mono before the 3800. Now--its just what I have found I like.

    I've tried a number of things over the years for B & W--now do almost all in Lightroom, but have found that I can be more consistent with toning for a project by using a fill layer in PS. Other times, I have a number of presets I've created in LR.

    That day (last Friday) was a really productive one. I started out yesterday morning, had light rain to start LOL--then just malaise set in --and I couldn't 'see' anything--so used the morning to scout for my Highway 70 project. Now--i need a morning without showers to get out and shoot those targeted subjects and spend some time deciding how to shoot them. Some days it just doesn't come together.

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    Wonderful work, Diane! Love the nostalgic feeling of these shots and your processing is perfect for them. I am so inspired to learn when I see the great stuff posted here, thank you!
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    Thanks Joan. Since I don't live in an urban area, my subjects tend to be rural or just what I find along the way thats interesting (unless I spend some time in Charlotte, my closest larger city or travel--I love the nitty gritty urban shooting but there's not much in my part of the world LOL).

    For my Highway 70 project I'm just looking for interesting things as I wander along--it goes from the coast to the TN mts. and our state is very long (wide) so its going to take me some time, but the fun is in the looking LOL. Sometimes I loop off of it for other shooting and just make turns with no place in mind--and luckily have my GPS with me LOL.

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    Re: G1 with Zuiko 17 f/2.8 lens

    It's good that you have a project to motivate you, Diane. I am SO bored with Tallahassee that I'm sure I do miss possible opportunities because I've STOPPED looking. I love to get out of town as it makes me open my eyes again.

    I need to take a class, that always does it for me when my painting hits a standstill, and should help with learning photography, too. Hard to find anything here beyond a basic digital photo class though, I'm past that point by a bit, but need help to move upward.
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    Joan, I had to do the same and 'create' a project LOL. I've shot so much around here that it doesn't even work to try and look at the same subject in a different way--I've done that--and done that LOL.

    Maybe a workshop would do it for you. Right now, due to the economy, the ones I'd enjoy are out of my price range, but in FL, likely there are some being given locally (meaning maybe within 1/2 days drive) and maybe above beginners but not so advanced you'd feel overwhelmed. I know there are always lots of nature/bird workshops down there. But--possibly worth looking for something different.

    Good luck.

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    Yes, I should look for workshops here in Florida. (In the fall when the weather cools down! ) Thanks for the suggestion, Diane.
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    Re: G1 with Zuiko 17 f/2.8 lens

    TRES,TRES, COOOL & Artsy
    I LOVE your EYE & STYLE Diane

    Beautiful Project & Great Sense of Processing
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    Diane,

    Excellent series, great B&W vision
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    Re: G1 with Zuiko 17 f/2.8 lens

    Thanks--I should add I'm not just using the 17 f/2.8 exclusively for the project. I shot quite a bit with the Hexanon 40 f/1.8, a bit with the Zuiko 9-18--and I'll use whatever lens gives me the subject as I 'see' it, but the 17 works quite well with the 40 for a nice workable pair.

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    Diane, your photos a truly a pleasure to the eye. I specially liked the B&W ones.
    On a different matter, could you tell me what is the minimum focus distance? You have some shots there that look almost like macro.

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    Diane, those are very lovely. They pull of the astonishing trick of making a shot on screen evoke the feeling of a silver print made from B&W negative film and then toned.

    I am generally greatly turned off by 'frame-like' effects and have never used them myself but for these shots it works really well. What's your technique?

    You know what, your shots actually make me feel like taking photos! I going to grab my Pen and go for a walk (hobble actually, I've twisted my knee). Thank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rawfa View Post
    Diane, your photos a truly a pleasure to the eye. I specially liked the B&W ones.
    On a different matter, could you tell me what is the minimum focus distance? You have some shots there that look almost like macro.
    Sorry, I missed this--for a good while. I just measured (roughly) and it appears to be about 4-5 inches on the G1. Easy/quick AF even in quite low light. I find it quite good enough for the money--and a lot of fun to use--plus the fact it makes the G1 a quite small package--and pretty versatile. I usually add at least one other lens--maybe a 40--when I want to go very light/small.

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    Thanks so much Tim.

    I love b & w (do tend to tone mine just a bit at least). Since I got my 3800 several years ago I'm pretty happy with the prints also (tried a variety of things with 1280 and 2200 over the years but never really quite there).

    I started framing years ago in my online gallery so have kept doing it for consistency. I made a little action--actually several--in PS--and for odd sizes, I've done it so long I can do it really quickly when needed besides the action.

    Glad I pushed you out the door. I do find I'm shooting even more with an m4/3rds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tashley View Post
    Diane, those are very lovely. They pull of the astonishing trick of making a shot on screen evoke the feeling of a silver print made from B&W negative film and then toned.

    I am generally greatly turned off by 'frame-like' effects and have never used them myself but for these shots it works really well. What's your technique?

    You know what, your shots actually make me feel like taking photos! I going to grab my Pen and go for a walk (hobble actually, I've twisted my knee). Thank you.

    Tim

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