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E-P1 Dynamic range
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Mike Hatam
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I haven't compared to the DP1, but isn't that one of those special 3-layer sensors for true color? Lower resolution, higher color accuracy and dynamic range. Probably not an apples-to-apples comparison.
The E-P1 has better dynamic range that I saw on my E-420, and at least as good (maybe a touch better) than I had on my G1.
But I'm still waiting for good raw processors (LR/CS) to support the E-P1, so I can see how much headroom I have in the highlights, and how much I can mash the bits around without ruining the file.
The E-P1 has better dynamic range that I saw on my E-420, and at least as good (maybe a touch better) than I had on my G1.
But I'm still waiting for good raw processors (LR/CS) to support the E-P1, so I can see how much headroom I have in the highlights, and how much I can mash the bits around without ruining the file.
tashley
Subscriber Member
I disagree profoundly.
DP1 files look astonishing first up on screen: silky, gorgeous, almost better than real. As native sized images they also take quite a lot of processing and in many situations they upres well: I had a show last year where I exhibited 20 x 30 inch shots, some from an M8 and some from a Canon 1DSIII but I snuck in one from the DP1 and not only did no one comment on any perceived quality difference but it turned out to be one of the best sellers of the edition.
But the DP1 is now my glovebox camera: too good to sell on eBay but not good enough to be my main 'small carry around'. The reason is what it does to any regular round shapes (balls, arches on buildings etc) when upresed to the files size dimensions it lays claims to. All those curves go 'aliased jaggy' and it shows in prints, starting in some cases not far above A4.
Also anything above ISO 200 has weird colours for reasons we all know and PP to try to correct this can force you into other corners.
This week's amateur photographer mag in the UK found what I find: that if you expose the Pen at it's natural ISO of 200 you get very satisfactory DR and furthermore, the camera's exposure system is so consistently good that you most often get every drop of that DR. Just make sure that you turn of the display boost option so that when you use exposure compensation for heavily backlit situations, the LCD does in fact let you see what you're doing!
Best
Tim
we discuss this in the german DSLR-Forum as well. OOC, the DP1/DP2 is unreachable for the E-P1, but if you develop RAW-Files, even with the Kit-Lens(remember DP1/2 are primes), the results are slightly better, so take a closer look at the photos here:
http://www.dslr-forum.de/showpost.php?p=5287978&postcount=581
In the moment i use C1 with the hack(Profile of the E-30), but i think we have to wait for the correct profile for the E-P1 before final conclusion about the IQ.
Yogi
http://www.dslr-forum.de/showpost.php?p=5287978&postcount=581
In the moment i use C1 with the hack(Profile of the E-30), but i think we have to wait for the correct profile for the E-P1 before final conclusion about the IQ.
Yogi
Brian Mosley
New member
I think it's you
The E-P1 has excellent dynamic range imho.
E-P1 + 17mm f2.8 pancake
1/100s f/2.8 at 17.0mm iso200
I have the DP1 too... nothing special compared to the E-P1.
Kind Regards
Brian
Rawfa
Active member
JPEGs wise I really don't see it. Like it was said before RAW maybe a different story. But I won't find that out until Photoshop puts out a RAW update for the E-P1 (I absolutely hate having to use different apps when one should be able to do everything).I think it's you
The E-P1 has excellent dynamic range imho.
E-P1 + 17mm f2.8 pancake
1/100s f/2.8 at 17.0mm iso200
I have the DP1 too... nothing special compared to the E-P1.
Kind Regards
Brian
Rawfa
Active member
Is there any in-camera filter or setting that could maybe increase the dynamic range? The first day I've got the camera I've tried one of those art filters called "pale" (I think that's how it's called) but it won't let you use the camera in manual mode. I don't know, maybe I'll simply try decreasing the contrast...
bcaslis
New member
I would have to disagree with this. I've seen nothing including my own pictures that suggest RAW doesn't see a dynamic range drop when using ISO 100. The base ISO of the camera is 200. ISO 100 simply overexposes and then reduces the brightness. You don't lose DR in the shadows but you will lose it in the highlights for sure.
tashley
Subscriber Member
You are 100% right.
Will
New member
Which image is the DP1 or E-P1
pellicle
New member
Hi
I have seen nothing to suggest this in my own camera (G1)
how can this be in RAW? If it is reducing brightness then it can not be raw, unless there is a different encoding strategy for the analog data from the sensor in different ISO settings.
I have seen nothing to suggest this in my own camera (G1)