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    Quote Originally Posted by Diane B View Post
    And--a bit off the form of the G1--I'm actually wondering if I may not buy a GH1 as my second m4/3rds body instead of the GF-1. Initially, I thought--just the camera for me for second body--and I may still go that way, but functionally, the G1 suits me exactly. I have to wonder, for my style of shooting, if I need a slimmer body--having to add (probably) an accessory EVF most of the time. I'm just not sure--after the bloom as left the roses, so to speak LOL. I was excited with the possibility as I was with the Pen--but considering it very carefully, I wonder if I would use it any differently than I do the G1--and if so, the G1 really suits me. I prefer the more rangefinder form but I use and like the grip, I like the tilt LCD sometimes, I know I like the EVF--so what's not to like about the G1/GH1 except its not as classic/retro looking. Godfrey has said many times--and I concur--its a tool, and the m4/3rds format works best FOR ME in the G1 form.

    The one thing in its favor--for me--is that I could tuck the GF1 in a bag to carry along as a 'second' more easily. Good thing it appears I have time to think about this LOL.

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    I feel exactly the same except that "retro looking" or not I really don't bother.
    I want to see if this GF1 has any improvement sensor wise and in body IS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by photoSmart42 View Post
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    Now the more I think about it, the more I'm wondering about just getting the 20/1.7 lens and turning the G1 into the compact purse camera for the wife, while still getting the GH1 for everything else. I'm just not sure how much smaller and lighter the GF1 would be compared to the G1 when both have the pancake lens on them. It seems the only difference in the two bodies is the VF and the slightly thicker body on the G1 due to the flip screen. Would it really be THAT much bulkier than the GF1 to justify trying to sell the G1, and losing the VF and the flip screen? My wife likes taking photos using the viewfinder, so that alone may be enough to vote against the GF1 for us.
    You have to factor in that the G1/GH1 have the grip which sticks out more also, but I sometimes put the Oly 17 f/2.8 and do exactly what you say--use it in my handbag 'just in case' rather than carrying more. Its quite small enough to do that with the pancake. The 20 f/1.7 would be more to my liking, both FL and faster, so I may sell the 17 and buy the 20 later. However, I wanted something really small and faster this summer so went ahead and bought the 17--which is a nice little lens on the G1 and makes it quite a small package.

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    at a guess i would reckon that the GF 1 will not have in body stabilisation and I doubt that sensor capabilities will be anything other than mildly incremental if that

    I am old and cynical... manufacturers make what fits the market... not what the market wants. With the GF-1 they are only trying to get the same slice of the pie as the EP-1

    the G1 was a foot in the water... the GH-1 was what they were really wanting to build... they announced it within weeks of the G1.

    I am sure the GF1 will be a fine camera.. but it won't be a major leap forward from the EP-1 performancewise.

    still i may be wrong

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    Why does every new camera need to be "a major leap forward"?

    Once upon a time, a camera model was introduced and over a decade or three (I'm exaggerating for effect... ;-) small improvements were made to it over and over and over again. By the middle of the product lifespan, it was very well refined and a delight to use, utterly reliable and consistent in its quality. Look at the Leica M, the Nikon FM, the Rolleiflex, the Nikon F3, the Hasselblad 500, the Minox subminiature. All cameras that had very long production histories that got better with every iteration, subtle and small though they might be.

    If we buyers of photographic equipment want a*revolutionary new breakthrough with every new model release, we will never again see the kind of subtle, sustained development and refinement that brought these brilliant cameras of the past to legendary status.

    I see the GF1 as an incremental development of the G1 concept, exploiting the micro-FourThirds concept with a smaller form factor with subtly different ergonomic and use options. Yes, it's competition for the E-P1 ... but this is 'a bad thing'? Why? Competition is supposed to improve the breed, not kill it.

    I look forward to seeing the GF1. It is actually closer to the camera that I envisaged in 2003 than the G1 and could well appeal to me even more. But if it doesn't, I'm really quite happy with my G1, and L1, and E-1 that I own already.

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    Re: New M43 GF1 - Possibly

    Quote Originally Posted by Godfrey View Post
    Exactly. It's properly referred to as 'the EVF housing' or 'the flash housing'. Referring to it as something related to a pentaprism is incorrect. 'Faux pentprism' is a label used by many who seek to disparage the G1's design.
    Yeah, well I wasnt, so don't go making accusations without asking me first - like I said I am a fan of the G1. I think its a reasonable term, its not a pentaprism housing but looks like one - they have been around for years so its reasonable to suggest it looks like one!

    Can someone point me to a list of words I'm not allowed to use?
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    Be careful, the G1 is very sensitive.

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    godfrey... I'm with you....just to be clear... I was downplaying any potential leap forward with the GF-1 as implied by sinwen.

    the best camera today is the one you have in your hand when the shot occurs.

    Just discovered yesterday my next door neighbour takes great pictures with disposable cameras and a short stepladder :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diane B View Post
    You have to factor in that the G1/GH1 have the grip which sticks out more also...
    Agreed, but at least from the pictures of the cameras next to each other (assuming they're all relatively to scale) it doesn't seem like the G1 grip is all that much larger than the GF1 grip. I suspect that in both cases the lens itself determines the depth of the camera package, and should be very similar. Needless to say we love the G1, so we'll stick with at least one version of it in any event.

    Now to figure out which adapter to get (leaning toward the FD one...).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tim View Post
    Yeah, well I wasnt, so don't go making accusations without asking me first - like I said I am a fan of the G1. I think its a reasonable term, its not a pentaprism housing but looks like one - they have been around for years so its reasonable to suggest it looks like one!
    Sorry, it seems that you've misunderstood my words. I tend to write literally and precisely a good bit of the time.

    ... 'Faux pentprism' is a label used by many who seek to disparage the G1's design.
    This statement carries no suggestion that that was what you intended. It is a declarative stating that your use of the term seemed like a disparagement of the G1's design, even if you didn't intend it, because others have used the term quite a lot with that intent.

    It's just a little plastic cheese-whiz toy camera according to another notable on another forum. So much angst over a camera!

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    Re: "cheese-whiz toy camera"

    Quote Originally Posted by Godfrey View Post
    It's just a little plastic cheese-whiz toy camera according to another notable on another forum...
    And probably according to the general public as a whole, this is precisely why it's such a good camera to carry around and openly take pictures with it without the hassle of "certain people" coming up to you and demanding to know why you are daring to take pictures etc.
    To coin a famous hardware manufacturer's catch phrase this is the camera with the "Intel Inside"; looking plasticky and toy like on the outside is an advantage here.

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    Re: New M43 GF1 - Possibly

    Thing is that Panny specifically stated that they were going after a 'traditional' look with the G1 to bring in the buyers, no doubt in Japan. Calling it a pentaprism housing is perhaps innaccuate but exactly what it was designed to look like.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ben Rubinstein View Post
    Thing is that Panny specifically stated that they were going after a 'traditional' look with the G1 to bring in the buyers, no doubt in Japan. Calling it a pentaprism housing is perhaps innaccuate but exactly what it was designed to look like.
    ;-)

    But do you not agree that there is a difference between the inaccurate but understandable reference as a "pentaprism housing" and the liable-to-be-misinterpreted and implicative term "faux pentaprism housing"?

    I was a creative writing student for some years. The actual words used are significant to me. ;-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by photoSmart42 View Post
    ... it doesn't seem like the G1 grip is all that much larger than the GF1 grip.
    well, looking at the photos I see otherwise ... the GF1 grip is barely there ...



    while the grip on my G1 sticks out a bit



    I notice that the dial was moved to the back on the GF images indicating that its quite snug in there

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    GF-1 looks good, but I would prefer Ep-1 with panasonic EFV (or should I say Ep-2)

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    September 1st - announcement maybe....

    You are invited to .......

    More cheers,
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    I saw this over on DPR and posted here, so I don't know where the source picture is from. I guess unvealing could be somewhat revealing.... no?
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    Re: New M43 GF1 - Possibly

    Other than the MAJOR typo on unvealing it looks promising!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TEBnewyork View Post
    Other than the MAJOR typo on unvealing it looks promising!
    It's very tough to get good help these days. C'est la vie!

    I'm thankful that a few people out there are sensitive to this.

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    I'm glad they are getting the veal out of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Godfrey View Post
    ;-)

    But do you not agree that there is a difference between the inaccurate but understandable reference as a "pentaprism housing" and the liable-to-be-misinterpreted and implicative term "faux pentaprism housing"?

    I was a creative writing student for some years. The actual words used are significant to me. ;-)
    I agree, for what it's worth. Language is important, but, even more so in the environment that we share here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pellicle View Post
    well, looking at the photos I see otherwise ... the GF1 grip is barely there ...while the grip on my G1 sticks out a bit
    Fair enough, but my point about the lens being the determining factor on the bulk of the camera is still valid. With pancake lenses on, they seem similar in bulk to me, certainly enough to justify keeping the viewfinder and the pop-out LCD on the G1. Since I got the G1, I find myself using the VF more than the LCD unless I need to get some off-angle shots and I need to use the LCD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by monza View Post
    I'm glad they are getting the veal out of it.
    They're going to need a lot of shadow puppets to keep people occupied over a two-day "save the date" period.

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    Quote Originally Posted by photoSmart42 View Post
    Fair enough, but my point about the lens being the determining factor on the bulk of the camera is still valid.
    agreed, but then I didn't argue that one.

    anyway its all psychological as it really makes little difference compared to what it weighs (to me at least)

    but with a 17mm pancake it'd be my #1 choice for a side of the pack camera

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    I was stoked about this camera until I saw there's no film mode button.

    Hopefully the slot under the hotshoe will allow you to attach a film mode controller.

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    Quote Originally Posted by robertasumendi View Post
    I was stoked about this camera until I saw there's no film mode button.

    Hopefully the slot under the hotshoe will allow you to attach a film mode controller.
    Hi Robert,

    I believe the consensus is that the slot below the hot shoe is for a plugin EVF. At least that's my vote. I'm sure the film mode would be available as a menu option, or you can always shoot raw and change the image in appropriate software....

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    Quote Originally Posted by slosync View Post
    I believe the consensus is that the slot below the hot shoe is for a plugin EVF. At least that's my vote.
    Someone on another forum made the interesting comment that it might also be a sound port for a mike that sits in the hot shoe. It's an interesting idea. But I vote for a pluggable EVF too. ;-)

    I'm sure the film mode would be available as a menu option, or you can always shoot raw and change the image in appropriate software....
    I'm actually astonished that people use the film mode at all. But then, I am only interested in RAW capture, I have never touched the Film Mode button on my G1 ... intentionally, that is. It kinda gets in the way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TEBnewyork View Post
    Other than the MAJOR typo on unvealing it looks promising!
    What typo?


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    Quote Originally Posted by robertasumendi View Post
    I was stoked about this camera until I saw there's no film mode button.

    Hopefully the slot under the hotshoe will allow you to attach a film mode controller.
    I think you've got it, Robertasumendi - you can plug your IPhone in there and the film mode expands beyond all expectations. I bet they will allow you to download films from Itunes You will be able to do an image inspired by "Gone with the Wind", or maybe "The Wizard of Oz", but my fave would be "How to buy a Slow Cooker"

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    Price speculation

    Today the sometimes incomprehensible but interesting FourThirds Rumors blog has some Japan-sourced GF1 pictures which they concede are probably fake, plus some speculative price data which struck me as interesting:

    Kit with pancake lens (presumably 20/1.7?) US$1,060.00
    Same including EVF: US$1,254.00
    Kit with macro lens (45/2.8?): US$1,166.00
    Same including EVF: US$1,359.00
    Body only: US$847.83
    EVF only: US$584.34
    ****[this makes no sense compared to EVF/non-EVF kit prices, which are less than $200 apart]
    Pancake lens only: (20/1.7?) US$316.00
    ****[Line forms behind me...]
    Macro lens only: US$640

    The discounts on the kits vs. individual items seem odd, especially the EVF (separate body + pancake + EVF almost 40% more than the kit price?!?) Or (more likely) these numbers are completely boogie-shoogie...
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    I looked at those prices they do seem odd. That being said, personally, I find that site pretty lame.

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    The source that 43 rumors uses, the livedoor blog, is some of the worst sources of photoshopped fakes I've ever seen. Some of the "news" on 43 rumors is accurate, but now the E-P1 is out, it seems to have degraded into a really low gossip site. Probably because, hey, there just isn't enough "news" to have even a weekly post.

    Also, if they'd be able to read some Japanese, they'd notice the site doesn't "claim to know the prices of the GF1, external EVF and lenses". The 6 kanji before the price list say something like: "wild price guesses".


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    Re: Price speculation

    Quote Originally Posted by Ranger 9 View Post
    The discounts on the kits vs. individual items seem odd, especially the EVF (separate body + pancake + EVF almost 40% more than the kit price?!?)
    What is more striking (to me) was the debut price (and the current price with a cash back) of a G1. Comes with an EVF and a really useful swivel TFT screen to boot!

    Not only the G1 a revolutionary camera but was grossly under-priced!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Godfrey View Post
    Why does every new camera need to be "a major leap forward"?

    Once upon a time, a camera model was introduced and over a decade or three (I'm exaggerating for effect... ;-) small improvements were made to it over and over and over again. By the middle of the product lifespan, it was very well refined and a delight to use, utterly reliable and consistent in its quality. Look at the Leica M, the Nikon FM, the Rolleiflex, the Nikon F3, the Hasselblad 500, the Minox subminiature. All cameras that had very long production histories that got better with every iteration, subtle and small though they might be.
    I suspect the production lines of the old cameras were easier to modify 'mid-stream' - people are more flexible than highly automated production lines. Also, I read that cameras are produced in batches these days... again, not conducive to small incremental improvement tweaks.

    The 'major leap forward' is just marketing twaddle - you're not falling for that are you Godfrey? there are very rarely any 'major leaps forward' - e.g. the LX2 was a small step backward imho, from the LX1 - some people saw the E-3 as a step backward from the E-1 in many respects!

    Quote Originally Posted by Godfrey View Post
    If we buyers of photographic equipment want a*revolutionary new breakthrough with every new model release, we will never again see the kind of subtle, sustained development and refinement that brought these brilliant cameras of the past to legendary status.
    Trying to seperate fact from marketing hype, in the search for these *revolutionary new breakthroughs is a risky exercise...
    It probably makes a lot of sense to surf the lagging edge - in terms of finding great value for money and proven cameras that work well, with the firmware fixes out of the way.

    Quote Originally Posted by Godfrey View Post
    I see the GF1 as an incremental development of the G1 concept, exploiting the micro-FourThirds concept with a smaller form factor with subtly different ergonomic and use options. Yes, it's competition for the E-P1 ... but this is 'a bad thing'? Why? Competition is supposed to improve the breed, not kill it.

    I look forward to seeing the GF1. It is actually closer to the camera that I envisaged in 2003 than the G1 and could well appeal to me even more. But if it doesn't, I'm really quite happy with my G1, and L1, and E-1 that I own already.
    There's a whole culture of pre-release buzz and early adopter posting through the forums... the G1 was so different in design outlook that it took a while for people to realise it was a great solution for legacy lens use (the reason I bought mine the moment I could get my hands on one)... but there's been a steady build from photographers who have the old lenses lying around, as they've read the early adopter enthusiasm.

    The E-P1 was an inspired, coherent design which took the initial interest gained by the functionally excellent G1, and magnified it by making it beautiful - losing the faux DSLR hump and grip, making a good approximation to a digital PEN.

    The GF1 is not a better G1 - it's an E-P1alike with fast CDAF and styled similarly to the LX3 (Perhaps Panasonic should have called it the GX1)...

    I wonder now, whether there will ever be a G2? the GH1 seems like a more logical line to follow for those of us who want a camera which is coherently designed to include an EVF - and you get the excellent articulating screen included!

    Of course, we haven't seen the EVF leaked for the GF1 - it could be extraordinary in some way...

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    Re: New M43 GF1 - Possibly

    I, for one, am looking forward to a G2.

    I never liked this incremental piecemeal offerings to please different customer segments based on market research that camera companies do.

    Any improvement in AF speed is likely unnoticeable and insignificant. I do not like the way the AF is implemented and the AF lenses operate. Lack of a real aperture control (manual) and a real focus (scale) do nothing to make them appealing or useful for me.

    I just hope they (Oly/Pana, etc) would release black painted plastic versions (saves me the trouble of of using marker pens on them) in addition to any other ridiculous colors they want.

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    Re: Price speculation

    Quote Originally Posted by Vivek View Post
    Not only the G1 a revolutionary camera but was grossly under-priced!
    Shhh ... (Remember we have new members here, one of them aptly named Panasonic Australia)

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    Ah, in that case... where's our firmware update to improve MF assist functionality? Other than that, the G1 is perfect!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian Mosley View Post
    Ah, in that case... where's our firmware update to improve MF assist functionality?
    what was it you were after? With the exception of Eye Controlled picking of where I'm looking at on the EVF for the MF assist I can't think of anything I'd like to add

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    Re: New M43 GF1 - Possibly

    Oh, I have list for the "G2".

    The white paint on the flimsy buttons on the rear of my first G1 is now gone while LUMIX (engraved and painted BRIGHT white) would have stayed clear and bright had I not rubbed it off with a black marker.

    The golden L square (what purpose it serves I have no clue. ) can go in terms of cost cutting and to improve the ergonomics.

    The handgrip is cracked. I epoxied it and plastered it so, it is OK.

    A better paint job on the bodice would be greatly appreciated.

    Noise levels have to go down. High ISO image quality (noise and DR) could use an improvement.

    Though I bought my first G1 within days of it appearing, I never filled out the warranty (2 year one since I bought it in Germany) and I never needed to.

    Now, that is reliability and quality. Keep it up Pana!

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    Quote Originally Posted by pellicle View Post
    what was it you were after? With the exception of Eye Controlled picking of where I'm looking at on the EVF for the MF assist I can't think of anything I'd like to add
    Yes, what else do we need, The "double button in one move" trick works really well

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    Re: New M43 GF1 - Possibly

    Quote Originally Posted by pellicle View Post
    what was it you were after? With the exception of Eye Controlled picking of where I'm looking at on the EVF for the MF assist I can't think of anything I'd like to add
    I've come to realise that suggesting specific engineering solutions could be counter productive (not invented here syndrome) - better to just ask for an improvement... which for me wouldn't require having to press Left Arrow, OK every time I want the MF assist zoom.

    We had a long discussion thread about this months ago, shortly after we first got the G1... Panasonic got the message then, but haven't responded - maybe they've put a better solution into the GF1 to entice us to 'upgrade'

    Kind Regards

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    Re: New M43 GF1 - Possibly

    Quote Originally Posted by Brian Mosley View Post
    which for me wouldn't require having to press Left Arrow, OK every time I want the MF assist zoom.
    ok ... what about:

    pull in and hold the front dial, then rotate one click to activate zoom

    it would be nice if we could move the zoom area around with the dial too ... muchos faster ... I liked the way I could do that on my 10D's rear dial

    people are discovering 'gestures' on input devices ...

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    Re: New M43 GF1 - Possibly

    Quote Originally Posted by Vivek View Post
    Oh, I have list for the "G2".

    The white paint on the flimsy buttons on the rear of my first G1 is now gone while LUMIX (engraved and painted BRIGHT white) would have stayed clear and bright had I not rubbed it off with a black marker.

    The golden L square (what purpose it serves I have no clue. ) can go in terms of cost cutting and to improve the ergonomics.

    The handgrip is cracked. I epoxied it and plastered it so, it is OK.

    A better paint job on the bodice would be greatly appreciated.

    Noise levels have to go down. High ISO image quality (noise and DR) could use an improvement.

    Though I bought my first G1 within days of it appearing, I never filled out the warranty (2 year one since I bought it in Germany) and I never needed to.

    Now, that is reliability and quality. Keep it up Pana!
    My first G1, too, has lost the paint from the buttons on the rear. I fashioned a protector over the buttons for my second one. Otherwise, I am very happy with the G1.
    I would like a one-button press for manual focus assist, but I can see the dilemna for companies if they change the way the buttons work after the introduction. The manual would no longer be correct, but then again, who reads the manual?

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    Re: New M43 GF1 - Possibly

    Quote Originally Posted by Vivek View Post
    A better paint job on the bodice would be greatly appreciated.
    Your G1 has a bodice?

    I guess that's one way to keep the ink from wearing off the buttons... but isn't it a bit of a nuisance having to unlace it every time you want to change memory cards?

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    What typo?

    LOL, mooooooooo! let's get this thing mooooooooving!

    Cheers Ranger

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    Re: New M43 GF1 - Possibly

    Quote Originally Posted by Ranger 9 View Post
    Your G1 has a bodice?

    I guess that's one way to keep the ink from wearing off the buttons... but isn't it a bit of a nuisance having to unlace it every time you want to change memory cards?
    I could have phrased it better. The paint is the bodice for the body (it isn't unlike the Cosina Bessa L).

    Yes, by that account yours also has a bodice!

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    Re: MF assist

    Quote Originally Posted by Brian Mosley View Post
    Ah, in that case... where's our firmware update to improve MF assist functionality? Other than that, the G1 is perfect!
    Good on ya, mate.

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    Re: New M43 GF1 - Possibly

    Quote Originally Posted by Cindy Flood View Post
    My first G1, too, has lost the paint from the buttons on the rear. I fashioned a protector over the buttons for my second one. Otherwise, I am very happy with the G1.
    That is a wise thing to have done, Cindy. Would you share what/how exactly you did? I can use it on the other G1. Thanks.

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    Re: New M43 GF1 - Possibly

    Price rumors ... rumors, rumors, rumors ... wait for September 1st

    Panasonic GF1 prices:

    Kit pancake 1,060 USD - EVF Set 1,254 USD
    Macro Kit 1,166 USD - EVF Set 1,359 USD
    Single body 847 USD
    EVF single 316 USD
    pancake lens / macro lens 640 USD
    Last edited by hot; 26th August 2009 at 16:44.

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    Re: New M43 GF1 - Possibly

    Quote Originally Posted by hot View Post
    Price rumors ... rumors, rumors, rumors ... wait for September 1st

    Panasonic GF1 prices:

    Kit pancake 1,060 USD - EVF Set 1,254 USD
    Macro Kit 1,166 USD - EVF Set 1,359 USD
    Single body 847 USD
    EVF single 316 USD
    pancake lens / macro lens 640 USD
    Oh my God!!!

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    Re: Talking about G1/GH1 firmware upgrades

    I would love to see...

    ** One press MF

    ** AF support for more of the Oly 4/3 lenses..... (like the Pen EP1)

    ** Less blackout time during rapid shooting (more DSLR like)

    I know it's a little premature to discuss firmware upgrades for the GF1, but I would like those items above included.

    Otherwise I'm destined to fuss over the need keep a OVF in my camera bag. Dang!! Of course there's always the option to become a better photographer and learn to anticipate those "kodak moments".


    Cheers,
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    Re: New M43 GF1 - Possibly

    Quote Originally Posted by Vivek View Post
    That is a wise thing to have done, Cindy. Would you share what/how exactly you did? I can use it on the other G1. Thanks.
    I took a coin (US quarter) for a pattern that was about the size of the wheel. I used an exacto knife and cut out the circle from clear packing tape. Then I took a strip of clear packing tape that was about the height of the quarter (just slightly wider) and a length that would go from just to the card door and down into the lcd well. I put the sticky side of the circle to the sticky side of the strip and positioned it so that the circle was over the buttons. I didn't want the tape to stick onto the buttons. Then carefully placed it down. It works like a charm. The buttons are protected and they still preform as intended.

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