Site Sponsors
Page 1 of 13 1 2 3 11 ... LastLast
Results 1 to 50 of 602

Thread: G1 with English lenses

  1. #1
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Posts
    1,642
    Post Thanks / Like

    G1 with English lenses

    Dallmeyer 3" F3.5

  2. #2
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Posts
    1,642
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: G1 with English lenses

    Dallmeyer 1 1/2" F1.9 D-mount

  3. #3
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Posts
    1,642
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: G1 with English lenses

    Dallmeyer 1 1/2" F1.9 D-mount cine lens

  4. #4
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Posts
    1,642
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: G1 with English lenses

    Dallmeyer 3" F3.5 C-mount

  5. #5
    retnull
    Guest

    Re: G1 with English lenses

    Lovely color rendition on these older cine lenses!

  6. #6
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Posts
    1,642
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: G1 with English lenses

    Quote Originally Posted by retnull View Post
    Lovely color rendition on these older cine lenses!
    British lens is one of the best in the world. Cooke of Leicester still makes superb cine lenses.

    ........

    TT & H Cooke Spertial 1 1/2" F1.9 D-mount

  7. #7
    Super Duper
    Senior Member
    Michiel Schierbeek's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    Amsterdam/Normandy
    Posts
    4,058
    Post Thanks / Like
    Images
    762

    Re: G1 with English lenses

    Very interesting lenses and photo's, like the berry's with the background!
    Can you tell something about D-mount and its adapter?
    Kind regards, Michiel

  8. #8
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Location
    Sydney, Australia
    Posts
    347
    Post Thanks / Like
    Images
    1

    Re: G1 with English lenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Michiel Schierbeek View Post
    Very interesting lenses and photo's, like the berry's with the background!
    Can you tell something about D-mount and its adapter?
    Kind regards, Michiel
    I don't know of any adapters to M43 but I would not expect it to be promising. The specs of the D-mount are a thread diametre of 0.625" (15.87mm), 32tpi and a flange distance from the film plane of just 12.29mm. You won't get infinity focus and you are likely to get a bucket load of vignetting.

    D-mount lenses were used on 8mm and 9.5mm cine cameras.

  9. #9
    Super Duper
    Senior Member
    Michiel Schierbeek's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    Amsterdam/Normandy
    Posts
    4,058
    Post Thanks / Like
    Images
    762

    Re: G1 with English lenses

    Quote Originally Posted by PeterB666 View Post
    I don't know of any adapters to M43 but I would not expect it to be promising. The specs of the D-mount are a thread diametre of 0.625" (15.87mm), 32tpi and a flange distance from the film plane of just 12.29mm. You won't get infinity focus and you are likely to get a bucket load of vignetting.

    D-mount lenses were used on 8mm and 9.5mm cine cameras.
    Oh thanks, just curious how Hakkalo worked this out then?
    Michiel

  10. #10
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Location
    Sydney, Australia
    Posts
    347
    Post Thanks / Like
    Images
    1

    Re: G1 with English lenses

    The first shot is interesting considering the specs of the lens mount says you should not be able to do it. D-mount lenses are dirt cheap as there are no cameras currently being made for them unlike C-mount and also C-mount lens prices have skyrocketed since MFT, especially those that don't vignette in that format.

  11. #11
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Posts
    1,642
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: G1 with English lenses

    Quote Originally Posted by PeterB666 View Post
    I don't know of any adapters to M43 but I would not expect it to be promising. The specs of the D-mount are a thread diametre of 0.625" (15.87mm), 32tpi and a flange distance from the film plane of just 12.29mm. You won't get infinity focus and you are likely to get a bucket load of vignetting.

    D-mount lenses were used on 8mm and 9.5mm cine cameras.
    There is no adapter ! I've temporary taped it into a C-mount thread. However,I reckon it can be achieved to infinty after properly modified as some 8mm lens also has same design as 16mm.(But got to 36mm and above)

  12. #12
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Posts
    1,642
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: G1 with English lenses

    Dallmeyer 1 1/2" F1.9 D-mount

  13. #13
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Posts
    1,642
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: G1 with English lenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Michiel Schierbeek View Post
    Oh thanks, just curious how Hakkalo worked this out then?
    Michiel
    This shot is taken with Dallmeyer 38mm F1.9 Super Six Projection + C-mount extension tube..... Of course at F1.9

  14. #14
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Posts
    1,642
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: G1 with English lenses

    National Opt.Co. Leicester Pathex Anastigmat F2.5 Cine Lens

  15. #15
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Location
    USA
    Posts
    1,763
    Post Thanks / Like
    Images
    45

    Smile Re: G1 with English lenses

    Quote Originally Posted by hakkalo View Post
    Dallmeyer 1 1/2" F1.9 D-mount
    Hello hakkalo,
    Wow! Your images are fantastic! All the best, Leica 77

  16. #16
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Location
    Sydney, Australia
    Posts
    347
    Post Thanks / Like
    Images
    1

    Re: G1 with English lenses

    Quote Originally Posted by hakkalo View Post
    I reckon it can be achieved to infinty after properly modified as some 8mm lens also has same design as 16mm.(But got to 36mm and above)
    You are quite right there in that some D-mount lenses are the same design as C-mount lenses and you should be able to modify the body to fit but it is a fair amount of modification. The flange distance of MFT is 20mm, C-mount 17.526mm which is why the adapter is recessed and there is a limitation of mounting lenses without modification due to the throat size of the mount (and adapter) to mount correctly for infinity focus. With the 12.29mm flange distance of D-mount, that's 7.71mm that has to come off the back to get it right or a bit over 5mm for getting it onto a C-mount with zero allowance for a 1" to 0.625" adapter which you would have to make to get a stable mount.

    To add to confusion, when I first got into playing with cine cameras, there were still a couple of double-8 and standard-8 cameras around (probably Russian) that actually used C-mount interchangeable lenses. Standard-8 and 9.5mm had been dead for quite a while but these cameras were still being sold new in the 1970s.

    Because D-mount lenses sell for trinket money, it is a fun exercise so keep with it. I am very impressed with the first picture. I still think it should be impossible.

  17. #17
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Posts
    1,642
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: G1 with English lenses

    Quote Originally Posted by PeterB666 View Post
    You are quite right there in that some D-mount lenses are the same design as C-mount lenses and you should be able to modify the body to fit but it is a fair amount of modification. The flange distance of MFT is 20mm, C-mount 17.526mm which is why the adapter is recessed and there is a limitation of mounting lenses without modification due to the throat size of the mount (and adapter) to mount correctly for infinity focus. With the 12.29mm flange distance of D-mount, that's 7.71mm that has to come off the back to get it right or a bit over 5mm for getting it onto a C-mount with zero allowance for a 1" to 0.625" adapter which you would have to make to get a stable mount.

    To add to confusion, when I first got into playing with cine cameras, there were still a couple of double-8 and standard-8 cameras around (probably Russian) that actually used C-mount interchangeable lenses. Standard-8 and 9.5mm had been dead for quite a while but these cameras were still being sold new in the 1970s.

    Because D-mount lenses sell for trinket money, it is a fun exercise so keep with it. I am very impressed with the first picture. I still think it should be impossible.
    The first picture "hot air ballon" is taken with C-mount lens.
    This one is the taken with Pathex Anastigmat F2.5 of 9.5mm movie camera

  18. #18
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Posts
    1,642
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: G1 with English lenses

    Dallmeyer 2 1/4 Inch Profile Projection

  19. #19
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Posts
    1,642
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: G1 with English lenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Leica 77 View Post
    Hello hakkalo,
    Wow! Your images are fantastic! All the best, Leica 77
    Thanks for your nice words.

    G1 is a poor man's M8

    This shot is taken with Dallmeyer 2 1/4 Inch Profile Projection + Ling M42 to M 4/3 Adapter

  20. #20
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Posts
    1,642
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: G1 with English lenses

    Dallmeyer 170mm Gauge Projection + Ling M42 to M 4/3 Adapter

  21. #21
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Posts
    1,642
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: G1 with English lenses

    Taylor-Hobson Anastigmat 23mm F2.5

  22. #22
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Posts
    1,642
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: G1 with English lenses

    Taylor-Hobson 3 inch F1.8 For 16MM Projection

  23. #23
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Posts
    1,642
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: G1 with English lenses

    Dallmeyer Super Six 38mm F1.9

  24. #24
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Location
    USA
    Posts
    1,763
    Post Thanks / Like
    Images
    45

    Smile Re: G1 with English lenses

    Quote Originally Posted by hakkalo View Post
    Dallmeyer Super Six 38mm F1.9
    Quite unusual bokeh produced by your lens! All the best, Leica 77

  25. #25
    Subscriber Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Location
    Toronto, Canada
    Posts
    3,026
    Post Thanks / Like
    Images
    1117

    Re: G1 with English lenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Leica 77 View Post
    Quite unusual bokeh produced by your lens! All the best, Leica 77
    Yes - I agree. There are other discussions on this site regarding bokeh and how to exploit it artistically. I am now going to use bokeh with the same considerations as sharpness, contrast etc. So, I have to cover my lenses with sticky labels describing their bokeh. Others have already discovered this, but I am late into serious photography.
    It's interesting though, that to fully exploit bokeh you need a camera that can use a wide variety of lenses. Micro 4/3 is the best for that.

    Keith

  26. #26
    Senior Member petermcwerner's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Location
    Geneva, Switzerland
    Posts
    511
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: G1 with English lenses



    Sunset on the Yacht Port of Nyon, Lake of Geneva, Switzerland
    18mm f/2.0 T/2.3 Cooke Speed Panchro III on G1 - ISO=100 - Raw Therapee + Gimp - 1/800 @ f/2
    Peter Werner
    Leica M8, R9+DMR & Digilux 2; Nikon D700; Panasonic FX01, FX150 & G1; Samsung TL350 (WB 2000)

  27. #27
    Senior Member petermcwerner's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Location
    Geneva, Switzerland
    Posts
    511
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: G1 with English lenses



    18mm f/2.0 T/2.3 Cooke Speed Panchro III on G1 - ISO=100 - Raw Therapee + Gimp - 1/4000 @ f/2
    Peter Werner
    Leica M8, R9+DMR & Digilux 2; Nikon D700; Panasonic FX01, FX150 & G1; Samsung TL350 (WB 2000)

  28. #28
    Senior Member petermcwerner's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Location
    Geneva, Switzerland
    Posts
    511
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: G1 with English lenses



    18mm f/2.0 T/2.3 Cooke Speed Panchro III on G1 - ISO=100 - Raw Therapee + Gimp - 1/1000 @ f/2
    Peter Werner
    Leica M8, R9+DMR & Digilux 2; Nikon D700; Panasonic FX01, FX150 & G1; Samsung TL350 (WB 2000)

  29. #29
    Senior Member petermcwerner's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Location
    Geneva, Switzerland
    Posts
    511
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: G1 with English lenses

    Beautiful images hakkalo, made with very unusual lenses
    Cheers
    Peter
    Peter Werner
    Leica M8, R9+DMR & Digilux 2; Nikon D700; Panasonic FX01, FX150 & G1; Samsung TL350 (WB 2000)

  30. #30
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Posts
    1,642
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: G1 with English lenses

    Quote Originally Posted by petermcwerner View Post


    18mm f/2.0 T/2.3 Cooke Speed Panchro III on G1 - ISO=100 - Raw Therapee + Gimp - 1/1000 @ f/2

    This lens is for 35mm movie camera ? I've got a 1" F2 Cooke Speed Panchro and 1" F1.8 Cooke Filmo Special S1 C-mount for 16mm movie camera.

  31. #31
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Posts
    1,642
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: G1 with English lenses

    Dallmeyer 1" F1.9

  32. #32
    Senior Member petermcwerner's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Location
    Geneva, Switzerland
    Posts
    511
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: G1 with English lenses

    Quote Originally Posted by hakkalo View Post
    This lens is for 35mm movie camera ?
    Yes

    I've got a 1" F2 Cooke Speed Panchro and 1" F1.8 Cooke Filmo Special S1 C-mount for 16mm movie camera.
    Both for 16mm?
    Peter Werner
    Leica M8, R9+DMR & Digilux 2; Nikon D700; Panasonic FX01, FX150 & G1; Samsung TL350 (WB 2000)

  33. #33
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Posts
    1,642
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: G1 with English lenses

    Quote Originally Posted by petermcwerner View Post
    Yes

    Both for 16mm?
    Yes,they are.

  34. #34
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Posts
    1,642
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: G1 with English lenses

    Dallmeyer 1" F1.9

  35. #35
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Posts
    1,642
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: G1 with English lenses

    TT & H Cooke Speed Panchro 1" F2

  36. #36
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Posts
    1,642
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: G1 with English lenses

    TT & H Cooke Speed Panchro 1" F2

  37. #37
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Location
    USA
    Posts
    1,763
    Post Thanks / Like
    Images
    45

    Re: G1 with English lenses

    Quote Originally Posted by hakkalo View Post
    TT & H Cooke Speed Panchro 1" F2
    Hi hakkalo,
    Very interesting bokeh! All the best!

  38. #38
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Posts
    1,642
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: G1 with English lenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Leica 77 View Post
    Hi hakkalo,
    Very interesting bokeh! All the best!
    Thanks for your viewing.

    .................................................. ....
    TT & H Cooke Speed Panchro 1" F2

  39. #39
    Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    Miami
    Posts
    164
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: G1 with English lenses

    Great photographs everyone!

    Here are two of mine with Cooke Deep Field Panchro 100mm f2.5

  40. #40
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Posts
    1,642
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: G1 with English lenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Photomorgana View Post
    Great photographs everyone!

    Here are two of mine with Cooke Deep Field Panchro 100mm f2.5
    I know your lens is for 35mm movie camera.

    What is the different between Speed Panchro and Deep Field Panchro ?

    .................................................. ...........................

    1" F2 Speed Panchro is for 16mm movie camera

  41. #41
    Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    Miami
    Posts
    164
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: G1 with English lenses

    What is the different between Speed Panchro and Deep Field Panchro ?

    .................................................. ...........................


    100mm Deep Field Panchro was build in 1940s and it had the best bokeh at that time. It was widely preferred by most Directors, so the decision was made not to change the design. (while 32mm 40mm 50mm 75mm Speed Panchro had improved series II, and 18mm and 25mm even had series III, the DFP remained virtually unchanged) I think the only thing that changed in DFP lenses was a coating. It was Double Gause design 6 elements 4 groups. Early version was f2.5 T3.2 and late was f2.5 T2.8, (a minor detail I believe a barrel material was changed), I have both and both are good.

    100mm Tele Panchro or Panchrotal (not Speed Panchro, I think ''Speed'' could only be used on lenses with f2 opening) was manufactured later and had different design- 6 elements 3 groups. Aslo an excellent lens. Older version was f2.5 T2.8 and later version was f2.3 T2.5 (used in both 16 and 35mm cinematography)
    Last edited by Photomorgana; 9th September 2009 at 11:46.

  42. #42
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Posts
    1,642
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: G1 with English lenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Photomorgana View Post
    What is the different between Speed Panchro and Deep Field Panchro ?

    .................................................. ...........................


    100mm Deep Field Panchro was build in 1940s and it had the best bokeh at that time. It was widely preferred by most Directors, so the decision was made not to change the design. (while 32mm 40mm 50mm 75mm Speed Panchro had improved series II, and 18mm and 25mm even had series III, the DFP remained virtually unchanged) I think the only thing that changed in DFP lenses was a coating. It was Double Gause design 6 elements 4 groups. Early version was f2.5 T3.2 and late was f2.5 T2.8, (a minor detail I believe a barrel material was changed), I have both and both are good.

    100mm Tele Panchro or Panchrotal (not Speed Panchro, I think ''Speed'' could only be used on lenses with f2 opening) was manufactured later and had different design- 6 elements 3 groups. Aslo an excellent lens. Older version was f2.5 T2.8 and later version was f2.3 T2.5 (used in both 16 and 35mm cinematography)
    Many thanks for your answer.

  43. #43
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Posts
    1,642
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: G1 with English lenses

    Wray, London "Supar" 4" F4.5 (Enlarging Lens)

  44. #44
    Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    Miami
    Posts
    164
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: G1 with English lenses

    Quote Originally Posted by hakkalo View Post
    Many thanks for your answer.
    No problem.
    Also there was a Kinetal series specifically design for 16mm format. I believe later in 1960s
    Those lenses were of a very good quality, sharp, similar to Zeiss but with excellent colors, bokeh however was not as good as Panchro line, but unique.
    I have tested all that I have and concluded that 50mm f1.8, 75mm f2 and 150mm f3.8 cover m4/3 sensor just fine. I dont have 100mm to test, but I am sure it will cover even FF just like 75mm.

  45. #45
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Posts
    1,642
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: G1 with English lenses

    Dallmeyer 4" F4.5 Enlarging Anastigmat

  46. #46
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Posts
    1,642
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: G1 with English lenses

    Dallmeyer 38mm F1.9 Super Six with M25 Extension Tube


  47. #47
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Posts
    1,642
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: G1 with English lenses

    Cooke Series 2 (c.1906-1926) 5 1/2" F6.5


  48. #48
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Posts
    1,642
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: G1 with English lenses

    Dallmeyer 9" F6.5 Popular Telephoto


  49. #49
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Posts
    1,642
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: G1 with English lenses

    Dallmeyer 9" F6.5 Popular Telephoto


  50. #50
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Posts
    1,642
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: G1 with English lenses

    Dallmeyer 9" F6.5 Popular Telephoto


Tags for this Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •