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    Lloyd/Maggie/Steve: Thank you all!

    Mike/Anthony: Great photos! +1, +1, as noted above.

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    The usual hangout and suspects. Thanks for looking. Cheers, Matt.

    1. M7; Kodak Ektar 100 VS


    2. M7; Kodak 100 T-Max


    3. M7; Kodak 100 T-Max

    4. M7; Kodak 100 T-Max

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    Matt, your photos make me really want to hear the music!

    Also, I really like the guitar player's dress.

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    Matt, great tones (and tunes) from that Tmax!

    How do you like the M7? I keeping lusting for one but never really pull the trigger.

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    Matt, these are even better than the ones in the digital Nikon forum! Maggie´s right; give us the sound of these lovely people! I always loved the sadness of the saw - when played well! :-)

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    Matt, your photos make me really want to hear the music!
    Also, I really like the guitar player's dress.
    Maggie: They do have some stuff on the web (google Cast Iron Maidens, Seattle). Not the same as seeing them live. She does wear that dress a lot. The dots are really cool in a photo.

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    Matt, great tones (and tunes) from that Tmax!
    How do you like the M7? I keeping lusting for one but never really pull the trigger.
    Scott: Thank you. I like the M7 a lot. Maybe a little too auto for purists, but what the heck. It's a great compliment to my digital M.

    Quote Originally Posted by leif e View Post
    Matt, these are even better than the ones in the digital Nikon forum! Maggie´s right; give us the sound of these lovely people! I always loved the sadness of the saw - when played well! :-)
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    Leif: Thanks for your kind words. It's a different experience photographing them in film. I mostly like the results. She plays the saw very well, in my opinion. In the newest digital Nikon photos, the bass player appears to have a broken/sprained hand and is playing the washboard and harmonica.

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    Recent pix from the M4-P, Jupiter-8 and BW400CN combo:

    Tree Trunks, July, 2010


    A Couple, July, 2010


    Mailbox, July, 2010


    Swingset, July, 2010


    Coil, July, 2010

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    Quote Originally Posted by leif e View Post
    Matt, these are even better than the ones in the digital Nikon forum! Maggie´s right; give us the sound of these lovely people! I always loved the sadness of the saw - when played well! :-)

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    Feeling a little gritty today....HP5+ @ 1600 in Rodinal











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    Those are kickass, Scott! HP5+ pushed in Rodinal looks great!

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    1.2 nokton /M2
    unfortunate Grit....

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    1.2 nokton /M2
    heat & Sorrows

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    Quote Originally Posted by helenhill View Post
    1.2 nokton /M2
    unfortunate Grit....
    I'd say the scratches only add to the emotional content of the image.

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    Quote Originally Posted by helenhill View Post
    1.2 nokton /M2
    unfortunate Grit....
    Quote Originally Posted by helenhill View Post
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    heat & Sorrows
    Brilliant,Stark,Sad.

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    Feeling a little gritty today....HP5+ @ 1600 in Rodinal









    "True Grit"! Excellent!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maggie O View Post
    Recent pix from the M4-P, Jupiter-8 and BW400CN combo:

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    Swingset, July, 2010

    Nice tones & comps Maggie!

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    Nice tones & comps Maggie!
    Thanks, Steve!

    Here's some more from that same roll of BW400CN, all Jupiter-8 on the M4-P:

    Leon's Drowned, July, 2010


    Raindrops and Bubbles, July, 2010


    Raindrops and Drain, July, 2010


    Storm Drain, July, 2010


    Upper Dogwalk Rabbit, July, 2010

    (can you spot Bunn?)

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    From the same roll comes...

    Wary Bunn, July, 2010


    Considering I took that shot with a 50mm lens and had a Mini Schnauzer next to me, it's no wonder Bunn is wary!

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    Another day, more pix from the M4-P, Jupiter-8 and BW400CN!

    Jasper and Kim, July, 2010




    Scooter At Rest, July, 2010


    Mama Jo, July, 2010


    Scooter Lightshaft, July, 2010


    Smoke Signal, July, 2010


    Smokebomb, July, 2010


    Patio Light, July, 2010

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    Nice shots Maggie!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuart Richardson View Post
    Nice shots Maggie!
    Thank you, Stuart!

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    Maggie: Nice work. I esp. like "Tree Trunks" and of course "wary bunn". And, thanks for posting the link.
    Scott: Excellent grit. I love the first one with the banner. You chemists have all the fun!
    Helen: "Unfortunate Grit" and "Heat and Sorrows": very powerful, sad, images.
    Thanks, all, for sharing. Cheers, Matt.

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    Thanks, Matt!

    Here's a couple of stragglers from this week:

    The Big Show, July, 2010

    M2 and 50mm Summilux-M.

    Jumping Scooter, July, 2010

    M4-P and the Jupiter-8.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maggie O View Post
    Thanks, Matt!
    Here's a couple of stragglers from this week:
    The Big Show, July, 2010
    M2 and 50mm Summilux-M.
    Jumping Scooter, July, 2010
    M4-P and the Jupiter-8.
    Maggie: Great cluster of "supervising" adults. Is scooter trying to escape the fireworks. Nicely seen. I'm jealous. You do very well with these cameras (no TTL metering, etc crutches like me!). both photos have a sort of 'expose' quality. Front page on the Star or National Enquirer with suitable headlines.

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    Maggie...You R Tearing It Up!!! Great Work! Your Mum Shots Are Always Special!

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    Quote Originally Posted by m_driscoll View Post
    Maggie: Great cluster of "supervising" adults. Is scooter trying to escape the fireworks. Nicely seen. I'm jealous. You do very well with these cameras (no TTL metering, etc crutches like me!). both photos have a sort of 'expose' quality. Front page on the Star or National Enquirer with suitable headlines.
    Heheh!! Thanks, Matt!

    I'm a bit surprised and completely delighted to see that I don't absolutely need a meter in my camera. I guess I've been paying closer attention to exposure settings on my Nikon and M8 all these years than I thought, because, at least with ISO 400, exposures are pretty easy to see. Of course, it helps shooting B&W negative film, which is hard to screw up. I've had issues, shall we say, with Ektar 100 in my M's. I'm not so bulletproof with that, I'm afraid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shtarka1 View Post
    Maggie...You R Tearing It Up!!! Great Work! Your Mum Shots Are Always Special!
    Thanks, Steve!!!

    Y'all have been doing great stuff over in the digital M threads- they move so fast, it's hard for me to keep up, so kudos here, OK?

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    Another roll of BW400CN has made its way through the M4-P and its Jupiter-8 50/2 lens! Here's a few:

    Land Escapes Makes Theirs, July, 2010


    Dead Friend, July, 2010


    Dad And Domino Heat Up, July, 2010


    Contemplating The Duck Pond, July, 2010


    Scooter In A Window, July, 2010

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    Contemplating The Duck Pond, July, 2010


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    Superb Shooting & PP Mag & Scott!

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    Thanks, Steve!

    Here's a few more off that same roll from the M4-P/ J-8:

    Creeper, July, 2010


    Garbage Night, July, 2010


    Sniffing The Air, July, 2010


    Cloud Gesture, July, 2010


    Smokebomb Roll Call, July, 2010

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    Scott, I am loving your framing and you sense of moment, but I can't hep but wonder how your photos would look with a bit more contrast. Bring me a true black or a blown-out highlight now and then and I think I'd be absolutely IN LOVE!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maggie O View Post
    Another roll of BW400CN has made its way through the M4-P and its Jupiter-8 50/2 lens! Here's a few:

    Land Escapes Makes Theirs, July, 2010
    Dead Friend, July, 2010
    Dad And Domino Heat Up, July, 2010

    Contemplating The Duck Pond, July, 2010

    Scooter In A Window, July, 2010
    Maggie: The bunn died!!! So sad. Great photos (didn't like the second one, though). "Dad &..." and "Contemplating..." are very cool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by m_driscoll View Post
    Maggie: The bunn died!!! So sad. Great photos (didn't like the second one, though). "Dad &..." and "Contemplating..." are very cool.

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    Thanks, Matt! Well, ONE bunn died. Five more showed up for the funeral, with kids in tow, too. The bunn photos will continue apace!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maggie O View Post
    Thanks, Steve!

    Here's a few more off that same roll from the M4-P/ J-8:



    Sniffing The Air, July, 2010


    Cloud Gesture, July, 2010


    Smokebomb Roll Call, July, 2010
    Nice perspectives. Like the "Cloud Gesture" with a hint of rooftop! Great Film!

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    Nice Street & PP Scott!

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    Nice perspectives. Like the "Cloud Gesture" with a hint of rooftop! Great Film!
    Thanks, Steve!!

    So, I heard about this low cost private-label XP-2 Plus from Photo Warehouse, so I ordered the minimum number of rolls (14) and shot some this weekend out at the airport, where Cessna was bringing in Special Olympics athletes on bizjets. No credentials for me, so I watched the watchers, so to speak. Here's a few shots from that first roll of generic XP-2 Plus, via the M4-P and Jupiter-8:

    Umbrellas, Special Olympics Citation Airlift, July, 2010


    Credentials Tent, Special Olympics Citation Airlift, July, 2010


    Helping Out, Special Olympics Citation Airlift, July, 2010


    Waiting For Harrison, Special Olympics Citation Airlift, July, 2010

    (Harrison Ford piloted his Gulfstream for the airlift and all these folks said they were just there to see him.)

    A Planespotter Catches One, Special Olympics Citation Airlift, July, 2010


    It was around 97ºF, with a heat index of 109ºF that afternoon. Underexposure was NOT a problem!

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    This was taken during the summer of 1971. I'd just graduated from high school. We were working on an original musical, a serious piece of theatre that was so serious that we never quite finished it. M2, DR Summicron, Tri-X.


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    M4-P, 50 1/4 preapsh

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Klein View Post
    This was taken during the summer of 1971. I'd just graduated from high school. We were working on an original musical, a serious piece of theatre that was so serious that we never quite finished it. M2, DR Summicron, Tri-X.

    I've had projects like that! But never someone thoughtful or talented enough to photograph them so well!

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    An old Summilux is such a dreamy match with your grandson- what a beautiful portrait!!!

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    Nice shots everyone. Jim -- I like your shot and the tone you have given it. Nice to see you doing some stuff with film along with all your nice images in the MFD thread!

    Maggie -- do you have any crops from your photos...the first and second seem really grainy for XP2...XP2 should be essentially grainless, at least in my experience. What does the returned film itself look like? Does it have any markings, and what color is the film base? I am just curious...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuart Richardson View Post
    Nice shots everyone. Jim -- I like your shot and the tone you have given it. Nice to see you doing some stuff with film along with all your nice images in the MFD thread!

    Maggie -- do you have any crops from your photos...the first and second seem really grainy for XP2...XP2 should be essentially grainless, at least in my experience. What does the returned film itself look like? Does it have any markings, and what color is the film base? I am just curious...
    The film base is a very dark grey and the negs are surprisingly grainy, almost like Tri-X. Both sides are smooth, as you'd expect, but I had the roll processed at Walgreens and they were pretty rough with it; I had to do some retouching of schmutz and scratches, even with Digital ICE turned on.

    I'll attach a 100% zoom of the original .tif scan of the two frames you mentioned.

    I'm thinking it might be the film, because when I have the local Walgreens do my Kodak BW400CN, I get gorgeous, grain-less frames with near-medium-format tonalities. This stuff looks more like Tri-X in Rodinal. (Which is OK, as I really like that look, but it's not what I was expecting.)

    I took two more rolls of of, one at the airport and one around the neighborhood and took those to a local photo lab for processing yesterday. I should have them back (along with a roll of Ektar) by this evening. Maybe they'll be more in line with our expectations of what XP-2 is supposed to look like.

    What do you make of all this Stuart?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maggie O View Post
    Thanks, Steve!!

    So, I heard about this low cost private-label XP-2 Plus from Photo Warehouse, so I ordered the minimum number of rolls (14) and shot some this weekend out at the airport, where Cessna was bringing in Special Olympics athletes on bizjets. No credentials for me, so I watched the watchers, so to speak. Here's a few shots from that first roll of generic XP-2 Plus, via the M4-P and Jupiter-8:

    Umbrellas, Special Olympics Citation Airlift, July, 2010


    Credentials Tent, Special Olympics Citation Airlift, July, 2010


    Helping Out, Special Olympics Citation Airlift, July, 2010


    Waiting For Harrison, Special Olympics Citation Airlift, July, 2010

    (Harrison Ford piloted his Gulfstream for the airlift and all these folks said they were just there to see him.)

    A Planespotter Catches One, Special Olympics Citation Airlift, July, 2010


    It was around 97ºF, with a heat index of 109ºF that afternoon. Underexposure was NOT a problem!
    You really get a sense that it was hot as Hades from these photos, very well done.

    I like the look of these a lot. Nice tones, good contrast, and I happen to like the grain. I may have to get some of that stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tokengirl View Post
    You really get a sense that it was hot as Hades from these photos, very well done.

    I like the look of these a lot. Nice tones, good contrast, and I happen to like the grain. I may have to get some of that stuff.
    Thank you, Claire!!

    I like the look of them too- it's a more traditional B&W film look to my eye, so I'm pleased, if a bit surprised.

    Here's a few more from that roll:

    Windsock Corner, Special Olympics Citation Airlift, July, 2010


    Grounded Bush Pilot, Special Olympics Citation Airlift, July, 2010


    Planespotting, Special Olympics Citation Airlift, July, 2010


    Hat Lady & Ice Cream Truck, Special Olympics Citation Airlift, July, 2010


    Mother and Daughter, Special Olympics Citation Airlift, July, 2010
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    Re: How about more and more fun with Leica M? (Film)

    Maggie -- I am not sure, it does look grainier than what I remember, but it might be normal. I will try to look at my negs again and see if that is normal. Do you know what dpi they scanned at? Or at least what are the dimensions of the file? That should let me figure out the scale of the grain compared to mine. The grain on mine does not look that different, but it is at 100% on a 3200dpi scan.
    Don't get me wrong, the photos look nice and they have nice tones, but I have only shot XP2 in medium format, so I may be just used to a much finer grain look. Also, XP2 negs should look pink or reddish brown, not dark grey. At least not usually...anyway, it seems like they work at least!
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    Looking at the file info on the .tif files from the Coolscan V, they're 4000ppi 8-bit grayscale images, 5651x3681.

    Stupid question time from me: does 4000ppi mean the same as 4000dpi?

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    Re: How about more and more fun with Leica M? (Film)

    Yes, in this context it does. If those are 100% at 4000, then that grain looks like it could be normal. I will double check when I get to work tomorrow.
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    Re: How about more and more fun with Leica M? (Film)

    Quote Originally Posted by Stuart Richardson View Post
    Yes, in this context it does. If those are 100% at 4000, then that grain looks like it could be normal. I will double check when I get to work tomorrow.
    The two crops are from the 4000dpi .tif files, so I guess this is normal for this off-brand "XP-2+." The filmstock seems thinner and more fragile than the Kodak BW400CN or the Neopan or Tri-X I've been using. It's not as thin as, say, Kodak's HIE IR was, but it does seem to be more brittle and curl easier. The results are pretty much the same from the roll I just got back from another lab in town, too.

    I might try developing a roll in 1:100 Rodinal just to see what happens.

    But this film, whatever it really is, is much grainier than the XP-1 or BW400CN I've used. Not that that's a bad thing, but if anyone is thinking about ordering some, they should know that.

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