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    120mm film scanner recommendations

    Hi-

    Now that i've decided to scan my negs, I was curious about quality. I would appreciate any recommendations on film scanners, (nikon LS 9000, etc.), I shoot mostly 120mm, but occasionally shoot 35mm too. Honestly, by making this decision, I feel like I'm putting the artist back in my art, I know that seems corny, but it's so satisfying to shoot with composition and a light meter!

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    Re: 120mm film scanner recommendations

    You will have to change your name to johnnygoesanalog.

    I use the Nikon 9000 with Vuescan on a MacBookPro and love it! I enjoy the experience of shooting film, but like the scanning of the film even more. If you get the Nikon, get the optional glass carrier right away because it makes life soooo much easier when scanning 6x4.5, 6x6 and 6x7. The 35mm carrier supplied works fine for that format.

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    Re: 120mm film scanner recommendations

    Cindy,

    Thanks for the recommendation on the scanner and accessories. I still shoot digital, so the name can stay, I just find a tremendous amount of satisfaction in film. I've owned a H4D and DF, but they are finicky. Film cameras have character and most are superior in build quality.

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    Re: 120mm film scanner recommendations

    I was just kidding about the name.

    I know what you mean about build quality. I have a Leica M6 and iiig. Both are well built, solid, beautiful and fun to shoot.

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    Re: 120mm film scanner recommendations

    Quote Originally Posted by Cindy Flood View Post
    I was just kidding about the name.

    I know what you mean about build quality. I have a Leica M6 and iiig. Both are well built, solid, beautiful and fun to shoot.
    My "name" does push buttons on the film forums, perhaps "johnnycamera" would be appropriate.
    I had an M6, that I made the mistake of selling...the legacy of cameras such as Leica's "M" and Hasselblad "V" systems are great examples of build quality. Being able to switch back and forth to digital with these systems is evidence of their heritage.

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    Re: 120mm film scanner recommendations

    Yes, the Nikon 9000 sounds to be a fine scanner or you can also look for the older 8000 ED for budget consideration but be sure as previously said to use a good glass holder.

    Some years ago, I would have suggested you the Minolta Dimage Multi scan pro but not anymore as it doesn't have any support if any problems happened (and they might happen soon or later). Mine was excellent enough for my use and my "expertise" but died recently : no more support, no more film scan. :'(
    So it would be risky even with an excellent/mint one on the used market.

    The Epson V700 has also nice critics for medium format films scan but I don't know as I never used one.

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    Re: 120mm film scanner recommendations

    Pacific image are introducing what seems to be an excellent 120 scanner:

    http://www.scanace.com/product/pf_120.html
    M262 ZM 25/2.8 35/1.4 50/2 85/2

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    Re: 120mm film scanner recommendations

    johnny, for Medium Format, a flatbed is not a bad option. These are current products, still sold and supported by the vendors, and a lot less expensive. The Nikon 9000 is better but no longer sold by Nikon.

    Everyone has their own quality standards, but I am getting nice 12x18 inch prints from 6x9 negatives from an inexpensive Epson V500, and I like a print sharp enough for close inspection. In my tests, this scanner resolves 1350-1800 ppi. The V700/750 would be a bit better, perhaps 2000ppi. The Coolscan 9000 I'm told resolves 4000ppi. I think the V500 produces scans that make good prints 6x the linear dimension of the negative.

    Google "Sebastian Moran V500" for specific test results and sample files.

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    Re: 120mm film scanner recommendations

    there is also a new Reflecta Scanner which can do MF.
    I read one review saying it is not as good as the Nikon 9000 but better than a Flatbed like Epson V750 and it is not too expensive.

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    Re: 120mm film scanner recommendations

    I have been doing my scans using an Imacon 343 with reasonable results. The FlexColor software is a breeze to work with and it's still supported by Hasselblad. It works with my 64 bit Vista right out of the box. And I do not have to fiddle around with any glass holders and such, it's a hassle to keep them clean. And the scanner is built like a battleship, the workmanship is second to none.

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    Re: 120mm film scanner recommendations

    I am also curious to see if anyone can share experiences having used both a flatbed and a real film scanner like 9000ED. Not knowing how much I want to get into film, I just bought a Canon 9000f flatbed which has good general reviews. Then I always see people recommend Coolscan 9000ED which is an older product. If I don't care about the transport, can the Canon 9000f output the same quality as a Coolscan 9000ED? The Canon claims 9600 optical resolution which is way unrealistic for me but is there any reason to get a dedicated film scanner?

    Yes I bought Vuescan too.

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    Re: 120mm film scanner recommendations

    I purchased a V750, and must say, I love it! I think this scanner gets to 90% of what I need it to do...for now. The fluid mount option is easy and does make a difference. Very impressive scanner for the price!

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    Re: 120mm film scanner recommendations

    But how is this different than CanoScan 9000F which is also 9600dpi but at a fraction of the price?

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    Re: 120mm film scanner recommendations

    From what I've read, the Canon 9000F is an amazing bargain and offers excellent quality scans. Be aware also that Plustek plans to launch an MF scanner later this year (April?).

    Plustek stellt Mittelformatscanner OpticFilm 120 in Aussicht | photoscala

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    Re: 120mm film scanner recommendations

    I once considered the Nikon 9000 before they disappeared. Nikon film scanners are the class act in this price range ... the Imacon Flextight is the next level and costs a BUNCH more.

    I do still love the look of film, but only have time to work with it occasionally. I find the process of development and scanning both tedious and too slow for my druthers. I sold all my 'serious' 35mm and 120 format cameras a while ago.

    That said, I acquired one of my old favorites ... Leica M4-2 ... in September of 2011 that I just like using too much. And a friend called me to say, "Hey look what I found for you! ..." three days ago:


    It was about to go into a dumpster from what he told me. (Just the body ... that's his Nikkor-H 85/1.8 on it; I have one of the same lenses right here.)

    So I'll keep shooting a little 35mm now and then, and have the pleasure of using my first Nikon and my favorite Leica M alongside my modern cameras. I picked up a Nikon Coolscan 5 ED last year so I'm good to go for 35mm.

    Life is good. :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by glee719 View Post
    If I don't care about the transport, can the Canon 9000f output the same quality as a Coolscan 9000ED?
    No.

    Whether the difference is enough to matter to you is a different question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oren Grad View Post
    No.

    Whether the difference is enough to matter to you is a different question.
    Dear Oren Grad since your answer is certain I assumed you tried both and can tell me what you think the differences are?

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    Re: 120mm film scanner recommendations

    So since I did the first research and got myself the Canon 9000F, then V700, then V700+Better Scanning holder with 2 ANR glasses. I have to say after fine-tuning the height, I got very satisfactory results from the Better Scanning film holder. The tests using the same film position but different height really tells a difference with every 0.2mm increments the instruction suggested. My scanner's optimal height ended up being 0.6mm elevated.

    See sample here with the brick wall.
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    Re: 120mm film scanner recommendations

    Thanks for this thread.

    I have a bunch of film cameras and two digitals. I much prefer film, but use the digital for convenience.

    But no scanner - still "on the fence" about buying one.

    Weird though - I'll drop a ton of money on a lens because I want to try its look, but, still can't (won't) consider buying a cheap Epson V750 to deal with digitizing film.

    Vick

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    Re: 120mm film scanner recommendations

    My photographic druthers have moved around a lot in the past year and some. Nowadays, I'm shooting mostly with the M9 and X2 for digital, and shooting a good deal more 35mm (M4-2 and CL) and 120 (6x6 folders) film again.

    I've been scanning 120 format with my still-ancient Epson 2450, having sold the V700 some time past as I didn't really see all that much improvement. The 2450 works well regardless of its age, but I know that, just like with 35mm film, I'll gain a lot more of what my cameras are capable of with a film scanner.

    The Nikon Coolscan 9000 is long gone now with good used examples running around $2000 from Ebay.

    There's a new Plustek OpticFilm 120 scanner due for release very soon ... here's the B&H link for pre-orders:
    bhphotovideo.com - Plustek_Optic_Film_120_Scanner

    It going to cost new about the same as the Nikon and includes both 35 and 120 trays. The 120 tray design looks very interesting, with securing bars adjustable for format and individual camera spacing. It looks like an interesting, simple and reliable design. 5300 ppi ... woof, that makes 140+ mpixel.

    I'm keeping it in my wish list ... probably wait until next year because I've more than tapped out my camera equipment spending budget this year (!) what with the M9, Bessa III, X2 and all the other purchases...
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    Re: 120mm film scanner recommendations

    Very interested in that PlusTek scanner, as I have separate 35mm and 120 scanners at the moment. Big bux though, so I'll have to see plenty of reviews first.

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    I wonder if '5300 dpi' is real dpi, not the scanner manufacturers convention of quoting interpolated figures to make the scanner seem a higher resolution than it is. They are all guilty of it.

    But the Plustek 120 does look interesting, especially at a time when Nikon are washing their hands of servicing their scanners anymore, parts being no longer available. What a price though! Considering you can buy both an Epson V700 for quick contact sheets and medium and large format negs, and a Plustek 7600 for dedicated 35mm, so getting the best of both worlds at less than half the price, then the 120 had better be amazing!

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    Re: 120mm film scanner recommendations

    If I remember correctly, the theoretical optical resolution is actually higher than 5300. The actual obtainable resolution is supposed to be 5300 dpi. I think they call it "photographic resolution" or something along those lines. But like most things coming from a supplier, the proof is in the scan. Samples I've seen so far look promising though.

    http://plustekusa.blogspot.com/2012/...tly-asked.html

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    Re: 120mm film scanner recommendations

    I'm very curious about this Plustek vs my Imacon Precision due to the higher ppi (and non-SCSI interface!)

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