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    Greetings from the Death Valley Workshop

    Just starting to process some files. Fantastic morning shoot out on the dunes. A quick shot of Jack giving some instruction.

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    Re: Greetings from the Death Valley Workshop

    Just some files that seemed to make the first sort
    Charcoal Kilns


    Beacon at Zabriski point


    Dante's View


    Racetrack


    Dunes 1


    Dunes 2


    Salt flats near Badwater


    Devil's golf course


    All are taken with an Arca-Swiss Rm3Di and an IQ180
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    Photoshop work will wait until I get home.
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    Workshop members waiting for the light


    100% crop (these models just refused to stand still)


    SK 120 1/30 sec f/11
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    Re: Greetings from the Death Valley Workshop

    I was trying to play with one from Rhyolite with some heavier processing. Posted this in the Nikon forum as well. Processed in LR4 but really needs better selections in PS

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    Re: Greetings from the Death Valley Workshop

    Racetrack (finished)

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    Sand Dunes (finished)

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    Charcoal kilns

    sk120 f/11

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    Nice folks. I have yet to get to my images spent the day with my Son on our dirt bikes today. Man I'm beat up. LOL
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    Dirt bikes or processing? I'd take the dirt bikes any day!
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    Okay crashed and burned yesterday bruised my ribs pretty dang good so today processing. LOL

    Here is a start of my stuff from Death Valley. Cambo AE model, IQ 160 and my new boy toy a SK 120

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    Re: Greetings from the Death Valley Workshop

    hey guys
    I don't like to be rude . . . but I was expecting an image fest . . 9 posts? what are you doing?

    I need more!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob View Post
    No offense to anyone, but when I see an image like this I cringe. The "lineup" is the #1 reason I'll never attend any sort of "workshop".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lonnie Utah View Post
    No offense to anyone, but when I see an image like this I cringe. The "lineup" is the #1 reason I'll never attend any sort of "workshop".
    I really think it depends on what you are trying to get out of a workshop.

    1)your own unique image - go off on your own walk to your own vantage point - the shooter obviously wasn't with the group and there were other shots.
    2)instruction - then, there will always be others around - a number of people were new to tech cameras on this trip
    3)camaraderie - the chance to on occasion go out and shoot with others in a more social way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lonnie Utah View Post
    No offense to anyone, but when I see an image like this I cringe. The "lineup" is the #1 reason I'll never attend any sort of "workshop".
    Obviously you need to know the value of the workshop to begin with and trust me you will never stop learning. I can line 50 people and they can all walk away with something unique. But also certain spots lend themselves to certain restrictions , 5ft further in front of them they fall off a cliff, I'm not running down there to catch them either. Lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Terry View Post
    I really think it depends on what you are trying to get out of a workshop.

    1)your own unique image - go off on your own walk to your own vantage point - the shooter obviously wasn't with the group and there were other shots.
    2)instruction - then, there will always be others around - a number of people were new to tech cameras on this trip
    3)camaraderie - the chance to on occasion go out and shoot with others in a more social way.
    Well said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mancuso View Post
    Obviously you need to know the value of the workshop to begin with and trust me you will never stop learning. I can line 50 people and they can all walk away with something unique. But also certain spots lend themselves to certain restrictions , 5ft further in front of them they fall off a cliff, I'm not running down there to catch them either. Lol
    Being fortunate enough to live near some pretty classic locations, I've seen this sort of thing time and time again. You can tell all of the workshops because there are 10 people, all in a line, shooting the same basic composition. Usually this spot is something like Mesa arch in Canyonlands, Dead horse Point SP, Balanced Rock in Arches, Tower of the Virgin in Zion, etc, etc.

    If I am fortunate to visit an "exotic" location (hypothetically speaking), I want to come away with something unique, not the same basic image as the guy/girl next to me. To me, it comes down to this sort of "instruction" doesn't fit with my artistic and creative endeavors nor my learning style. If I were going to do something like this, I'd be much more inclined just to seek out a local photographer in the area I'm visiting who's work I admire and "hire" him/her for the day. But that's just me....
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    Having taught skiing for many years (now "retired"), I'll relate it to the following, Group lessons vs Private lessons. Some people do fine in group situations. Others realize the cost vs benefit of one on one instruction...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mancuso View Post
    Obviously you need to know the value of the workshop to begin with and trust me you will never stop learning. I can line 50 people and they can all walk away with something unique.
    I hope you learn something too Guy?

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    Re: Greetings from the Death Valley Workshop

    for you, Jono. more in the tech camera thread, by many of us


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    Quote Originally Posted by jlm View Post
    for you, Jono. more in the tech camera thread, by many of us

    Well, that's lovely - which is the tech camera thread (not immediately obvious where it is).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terry View Post
    I really think it depends on what you are trying to get out of a workshop.

    1)your own unique image - go off on your own walk to your own vantage point - the shooter obviously wasn't with the group and there were other shots.
    2)instruction - then, there will always be others around - a number of people were new to tech cameras on this trip
    3)camaraderie - the chance to on occasion go out and shoot with others in a more social way.
    I'd like to expand on Terry's comments, as I have attended nearly half of the workshops since the first one in Yosemite in 2007.

    Jack and Guy don't simply drive you to an iconic spot and line you up. At times, we were scattered over a mile (at the racetrack or dunes, for instance) and even the photo here underestimates the area covered, as others were in areas below the line of site and off to the sides. Not all in the photo were part of the workshop. Jack and Guy do their homework and their scouting is much appreciated by folks like me who have never been to the area. Sometimes, participants simply go to other sites altogether, as they wish. We aren't limited.

    I attended the first workshop with an M8 and really knew very little about what I was doing at the time, as I am sure they can confirm. I have far to go, as they can also attest to, but I have moved to MF and finally a tech camera under their guidance. Although the knowledge of the region by Jack and Guy is a large plus, my real goal is to learn how to do this independently. I doubt I would have learned nearly so much so fast without Jack and Guy and probably would never have tried a tech camera at all without someone nearby. They strike a good balance between group and one-on-one teaching. We have been fortunate to have representatives from Capture Integration over the years and this has allowed even more one-on-one attention. I feel the teaching aspects of the trips are unique and distinguish them from other workshops, which frequently are little more than guided tours. I went to these trips to learn as a primary goal (even more than getting a great photo on the workshop) and these guys work very hard at teaching.

    I have made a number of friends over the years on the workshops and I look forward to seeing everyone again. Without exception, it has been an intelligent group capable of inspiring me to do better. We have always learned from each other in a comfortable way. I have certainly learned much from everyone.

    I've lost count as to how many GetDPI workshops I have attended, but I would not have invested in them if they were not worth every cent, and I do consider them investments. It's tough for me to get time off and that time is valuable.

    The GetDPI workshops are quite different from the usual line-ups.

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    Re: Greetings from the Death Valley Workshop

    Jono:

    look starting around post 619, most of us had tech cameras, and...TRIPODS.

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