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    NSFW: Environmental nude

    OK, I am conflicted between the B&W version and color.
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    Re: Environmental nude

    Bob:

    I like the B&W. You might want to add a bit of vignette to either shot. In the colour shot in particular, the cliffs on the left are too bright. A vignette would help with this and also draw you into the subject.

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    Re: Environmental nude

    Ditto what Rob said -- The B&W, and add a slight vignette and burn in the white cliff a bit.
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    Re: Environmental nude

    Or maybe a bit more dramatic?
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    Re: Environmental nude

    I think that's better. A lovely shot. I can't help but notice the sharp edges around her hair though. They show up a bit on the mound behind her on the left as well. not sure if it's sharpening or the jpeg or what, but that halo is a distraction. If it were me, I'd go the other way and soften a lot of that background with some selective blur.

    On a side note, I KNOW you didn't shoot that in MA in the past couple days. The model would have been a cube of ice!

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    Re: Environmental nude

    Tim,
    It is a bit warmer here in California. I'll join the ice cube club Friday night. I have a model coming over in early February, but it will for sure be an indoor shoot.
    Anyway, as for the sharp edges:
    1) the sharp edge at the top left at the cliff edge seems to be caused by the B&W conversion layer in PS. In the original un-sharpened original, it looks like a bit of double-line bokeh. Once I add a B&W conversation layer and dial down blue, it pops out. Not a mask anywhere near the edge. It looks like I will have to do it the old-fashioned way or try doing the B&W conversion in Capture One before importing into PS.
    2) As for the other lines, I am a bit puzzeled.
    When I look at the jpeg locally at 100% it is not there. When I look at the file I posted on this site, I can see it. Whin I click on the image and invoke some other viewer, it goes away. I think that there might be something a little weird with the preview generator.
    I will check it out,
    Yes, it was a fun shoot and thanks. I got tired of shooting snow. Jack even held the reflector :-)
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    Re: Environmental nude

    Bob

    Like the B&W but try it B&W but leave the model natural … just a crazy idea. (probably why I don’t shoot people)


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    Re: Environmental nude

    It is a screen view I am lookin at ( so I hgesitate to sy anythign much) ..but..

    seems to me you have lost a fair amounbt of shadow detail in the B&W conversion...eg the models left hand side as I view it..

    I guess this is why the highlights in B&W version look like they do ( in a relative sence) and others have recommended some burning..

    but if you chase this strategy you will just compact the DR even further..

    I prefer the colour version for these reasons.

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    Re: Environmental nude

    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Creek View Post
    Bob

    Like the B&W but try it B&W but leave the model natural … just a crazy idea. (probably why I don’t shoot people

    don
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    Do you mean natural as color or natural as in un-retouched?
    Yup, people are harder IMO than landscapes, they keep moving around .
    I also have never had a landscape complain about a lousy shot.
    thanks
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    Re: Environmental nude

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob View Post
    Don,
    Do you mean natural as color or natural as in un-retouched?
    Yup, people are harder IMO than landscapes, they keep moving around .
    I also have never had a landscape complain about a lousy shot.
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    I've never had a tree say its bark doesn't look like that or I made it fat ...

    My suggestion was leave the model in color and turn the landscape to B&W.

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    Re: Environmental nude

    I think I have settled on this rendition

    -bob

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    Re: Environmental nude

    So it seems you got your X-mas wish under the Thread /What do you want as a Xmas Gift...
    as YOU stated "TF* models wanting to get a touch more skin into their portfolios"

    I prefer the B&W rendition
    However I do Wonder about Iron Creek's suggestion
    Keep the landscape in B&W with the model in natural color
    Last edited by helenhill; 17th January 2009 at 15:41.

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    Re: Environmental nude

    By popular demand, A color model in a b&w scene...

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    Re: Environmental nude

    Quote Originally Posted by helenhill View Post
    So it seems you got your X-mas wish under the Thread /What do you want as a Xmas Gift...
    as YOU stated "TF* models wanting to get a touch more skin into their portfolios"

    I prefer the B&W rendition
    However I do Wonder about Iron Creek's suggestion
    Keep the landscape in B&W with the model in natural color
    I must have been a very good boy
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    Re: Environmental nude

    I do like your latest B&W rendition. Okay so did Jack whine about being your assistant. I am waiting to hear the tall fish stories on our drive to Moab. LOL
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    Re: Environmental nude

    No, but he kept trying to get her to mimic a certain Rodin sculpture.
    You should have seen him!
    I would post a picture of it but he is out of focus and besides he didn't sign a release.
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