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    Tourists are starting to thin out so I took a brief afternoon walk in one of the favorite gorges. About 10 degrees cooler in the gorge so very refreshing. Lighting was quite harsh so I had difficulty with these shots. G1-IR with the Canon TS-E 24mm II.





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    I love the first one, Carl. The steps and the knobby roots really are lovely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cindy Flood View Post
    I love the first one, Carl. The steps and the knobby roots really are lovely.
    Thanks Cindy. it is amazing how these big hemlocks dig in and hang on to the edges of these steep gorge slopes.
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    Viewing the Marsh Panasonic G1 IR Pen-F 20 f/3.5

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cindy Flood View Post

    Viewing the Marsh Panasonic G1 IR Pen-F 20 f/3.5
    Very nice image. Looks like our Montezuma marsh at the north end of Cayuga Lake. Is that the out of camera color with the pen-F 20? I've noticed significant color differences between lenses. Presumably do to different lens coatings, but I don't really know. I have done custom G1 WB for some lenses.
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    Carl, No, I flipped the A+B channels. Then I fooled with the color channels to see what colors would come up. I liked it when I got to this point. I usually convert to black and white, because I don't often like the colored version.

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    A neglected, old boatyard on the waterfront. The broken windows in the shed look thought to the inlet waterfront. G1-IR with Lumix 20mm f/1.7

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    Hot mirror windows

    This relatively new building seems to have glass windows that reflect infrared just like a hot mirror filter. Interesting distortions in the reflections of the surrounding landscape. G1-IR + 20mm Lumix.



    See pano of this building in the Panorama thread
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    Quote Originally Posted by scho View Post
    A neglected, old boatyard on the waterfront. The broken windows in the shed look thought to the inlet waterfront. G1-IR with Lumix 20mm f/1.7
    I really like this one, composition and balance of tones is spot on! My only critique is it's perhaps a little hot overall, like maybe 10 points of brightness in post.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Flesher View Post
    I really like this one, composition and balance of tones is spot on! My only critique is it's perhaps a little hot overall, like maybe 10 points of brightness in post.
    Thanks Jack. You are right about the brightness. Those vines were reflecting a lot of IR from the bright afternoon sun.
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    my question is what is the best way to make the sky and only the sky darker?

    tried selection of color ranges , magic wand , gradient etc

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    Quote Originally Posted by viablex1 View Post
    my question is what is the best way to make the sky and only the sky darker?

    tried selection of color ranges , magic wand , gradient etc

    You need to look for skies that are devoid of any clouds and airplane contrails and such pollution.

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    I hear you that is an easy way, I have had some success with gradients and and selecting color range

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    Depends on the cam you use and how the Bayer dyes on that sensor respond to IR.

    What works for one may not work satisfactorily for another.

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    A couple of shots from 10Aug2010 (near Amsterdam).


    Untitled by Vivek Iyer, on Flickr



    Untitled by Vivek Iyer, on Flickr

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    Attended a wine festival today at a local vineyard and found this old cemetery while walking in the woods behind the vineyard. Apparently an old (1800's) farm family plot.

    G1-IR with Contax G 28mm f/2.8 Biogon

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    Quote Originally Posted by scho View Post
    Attended a wine festival today at a local vineyard and found this old cemetery while walking in the woods behind the vineyard. Apparently an old (1800's) farm family plot.

    G1-IR with Contax G 28mm f/2.8 Biogon
    Gee Carl......I keep forgetting you have that Biogon. Very nice. I think I might have asked you this before, but was it major surgery to cut off the fins?

    Do you think the 21/2.8 Biogon G would be similarly suited for m4/3's?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rich M View Post
    Gee Carl......I keep forgetting you have that Biogon. Very nice. I think I might have asked you this before, but was it major surgery to cut off the fins?

    Do you think the 21/2.8 Biogon G would be similarly suited for m4/3's?

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    Yes - it was a bloody affair getting the fins off I didn't want to create a lot of metal dust using a dremel so I just scored the fins and then snapped them off with long nose pliers. Blackened the severed ends with a marker to prevent reflections from the bare metal. I'm sure that there are better ways to do this but the lens was already in beat up condition so I wasn't too concerned about appearance. Works just fine. I don't have a 21 so can't comment on performance. I think that Leica77 has a 21 and used it on an m43 camera. Might be sample images in the contax/m43 adapter thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scho View Post
    Hi Rich,

    Yes - it was a bloody affair getting the fins off I didn't want to create a lot of metal dust using a dremel so I just scored the fins and then snapped them off with long nose pliers. Blackened the severed ends with a marker to prevent reflections from the bare metal. I'm sure that there are better ways to do this but the lens was already in beat up condition so I wasn't too concerned about appearance. Works just fine. I don't have a 21 so can't comment on performance. I think that Leica77 has a 21 and used it on an m43 camera. Might be sample images in the contax/m43 adapter thread.
    Off topic.....but I just ended up getting a Biogon. I hope I can get the same results you have gotten Carl......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rich M View Post
    Off topic.....but I just ended up getting a Biogon. I hope I can get the same results you have gotten Carl......

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    I hope you enjoy using the biogon (21 or 28?) and look forward to seeing your images.
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    First test photos with the GF-1 and 14-140mm lens (f9 and ISO 200):





    Get some hot spots lets exchange some ideas for a fix.

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    White Cat in IR :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by ustein View Post
    First test photos with the GF-1 and 14-140mm lens (f9 and ISO 200):



    Get some hot spots lets exchange some ideas for a fix.
    A couple of thoughts:

    1. Avoid stopping down any lens with an m4/3rds cam for IR below f/5.6 (touching the diffraction limits for that sensor size and in IR).

    2. Dump that lens that hotspots unless you can make use of the hotspot.
    (The 20/1.7 does impressively well for IR )

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    >2. Dump that lens that hotspots

    True. I want a zoom as I don't want to change lenses on the IR camera. This should be a standby camera and used if needed.

    Did some tests:

    1. Olympus 14-54mm 4/3 (not m4/3) has hardly any hotspots
    2. 14-140mm over 25mm is ok too (the first 2 shots were in that range)
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    Abandoned AF base, Truro Cape Cod : 7-14 Pano (1,2)

    Dock pilings : 90/2.5 adaptall (3)

    Beach Sunrise : 21-35 Leica (4,5)

    Old Town Cemetery : 45/2 Rokkor (6,7)

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    Beach Sunrise : 21-35 Leica (4,5)
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    Uwe.......these are OUTSTANDING!!! All of them. Very inspiring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rich M View Post
    Uwe.......these are OUTSTANDING!!! All of them. Very inspiring.

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    Thanks, this motivates..



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    Quote Originally Posted by mbroomfield View Post
    Abandoned AF base, Truro Cape Cod : 7-14 Pano (1,2)

    Dock pilings : 90/2.5 adaptall (3)

    Beach Sunrise : 21-35 Leica (4,5)

    Old Town Cemetery : 45/2 Rokkor (6,7)
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    Very nice IR work in one of my favorite areas.
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    Uwe,

    Great IR compositions. Looks like the GF1 is working well for you. I agree with Vivek that the 20mm is probably one of the best auto focus lenses for IR work with the G's.
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    Uwe, Carl.. thank you....

    Uwe, I like Recycling... a somewhat organic feel to it.

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    Stolen Moment Wedding Pic ... IR converted in LR3.

    Leica M9, 21/1.4.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fotografz View Post
    Stolen Moment Wedding Pic ... IR converted in LR3.



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    Quote Originally Posted by fotografz View Post
    Stolen Moment Wedding Pic ... IR converted in LR3.

    Leica M9, 21/1.4.

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    Marc, If it works for you, that is what counts.

    If you try a real IR camera (like a converted G1/GF1 with a plastic 20/1.7) you would find the difference.

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    Marc, If it works for you, that is what counts.

    If you try a real IR camera (like a converted G1/GF1 with a plastic 20/1.7) you would find the difference.
    I'm not THAT interested in digital IR ... And I do know the difference since I used to shoot B&W IR film on occasion. IMO, no digital IR looks as good as film IR anyway ... and if you shot film IR you would find the difference

    In this case, the building in the background was reddish colored and a straight B&W conversion didn't frame the bride well enough (she disappeared into the background to much). Works for this specific shot, and that indeed is ALL that counts

    That said, it has occurred to me to convert one of my Sony A900's into an IR camera now that the warranty has expired. Wouldn't have a clue how to go about doing that however ... or even if it can be done to the A900.

    Here's another half-assed IR conversion done in LR ... in this case it looked completely different compared to regular B&W ... M9, 28/2 @ ISO 800.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fotografz View Post
    I'm not THAT interested in digital IR ... And I do know the difference since I used to shoot B&W IR film on occasion. IMO, no digital IR looks as good as film IR anyway ... and if you shot film IR you would find the difference


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    Marc,

    Yes, I have shot IR on film and there is no comparison to the current state of digital IR. The famed HIE is put to shame by the humble G1 (converted for IR) and the pseudo IR films of Ilford SFX or Rollei varieties, etc are just another variation of B&W emulsions.

    That said, it is just a matter of choice when it comes to claims like "no digital looks like film IR".

    From a technical point of view, digital IR rocks.

    If you wish to convert visible light captures to make them look like IR that is your choice but it ain't IR.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vivek View Post
    Marc,

    Yes, I have shot IR on film and there is no comparison to the current state of digital IR. The famed HIE is put to shame by the humble G1 (converted for IR) and the pseudo IR films of Ilford SFX or Rollei varieties, etc are just another variation of B&W emulsions.

    That said, it is just a matter of choice when it comes to claims like "no digital looks like film IR".

    From a technical point of view, digital IR rocks.

    If you wish to convert visible light captures to make them look like IR that is your choice but it ain't IR.

    Well gee, I just posted a few images for fun ... I didn't realize there was a strict criteria for posting set by you. My apologies for the misunderstanding.

    So, should I remove my invalid images to meet your personal measure of IR? I had thought this to be a "fun with" thread ... but listening to you prattle on and on about purity and goodness of digital IR isn't fun at all.

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    Marc, IR is fun when you shoot in IR. You should give it a try.


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    Hello to all of you,

    My name is William. I've been registered for quite a while but never left a post.
    I've been following you folks' work for a long time now, and since I've done quit a bit of IR myself, I thought perhaps it's time for me to start existing too on this thread !
    I love your work, all of you.

    I'll put up some pics in my next post, right after this one, but first, let me introduce myself a bit more.

    I'm a French/US guy, turned 40 this year.
    I live in France, next to Paris.
    I did a few things in my life, travelled a bit, lived in China for a few years in the 90's.

    My first trip to China was in 93, it was a photography report trip all through China, retracing the route that Mao and the red army followed back in 1934-35 during the famous Long March.
    It was the trip of my life, really. Back then, a lot of things over there were still virgin to western people's eyes.
    And crazy as it seems, I virtually have no pictures of that trip, because it was all sponsored by the Gamma agency (or was it Magnum ? No, I'm quite sure it was Gamma).
    Back then, during the trip, I used a Nikon FA.... yeah ! those good ol' days !

    That trip was the spark to most of the things that would eventually ponctuate my life after that, and among all those things, there is photography.

    I actually did a pause in photography for a few years, from 98 to 2003.
    Then in 2003, my daughter was born and my sister offered me my first digital camera, a Canon Powershot A60 if I remember.

    Three years later I bought my first DSLR, a pentax K100D.
    Ever since then it's been a long love story with Pentax DSLRs, and after the K100D I owned a K200, and then a K-x that I bought last june.

    It was with the K100D that I had my first go in IR photography.
    Back then, DSLRs' hot mirrors weren't that strong, and it wasn't so difficult, provided one had a tripod, to take IR pics without modding the camera, and just two seconds pause, even with a 850nm filter on the lens !

    When I changed to the K200 in 2008, my IR experiences were momentarily stopped, because I discovered that the K200 had a way more efficient hot mirror filter !

    In 2009 I travelled back to China for the summer, and just before going, I had bought on ebay my first IR modded camera, a Powershot A95. That was fun ! ...
    ... untill some stupid nerd in a train over there decided to steal it... that poor old looking camera (the A95 was already quite outdated in 2009)... how surprised and disapointed he must have been when realising that his new stolen camera only took somehow b&w like pictures with vegetation all turning white !!! (except for a few out of a billion, the chinese would truly dislike a picture that is not going to translate like for like what their eye saw).
    Anyway, I did use it for about two weeks in China before loosing it. It gave me superb pictures.

    Finally, in june 2010, I bought a new Pentax K-x and had it sent directly to DSI to have it
    modded into full spectrum.
    I was travelling to the US last summer, and I wanted an all in one camera so that I could take whatever kind of pics I wanted - Visible or IR.
    The K-x has a live view mode, so it's easy to switch from OVF for Color, to LV for IR.

    Now I'm already mooving on to my next camera, a K-5.
    The following posts will show you some of the pictures I took along all these four last years.
    I'm going to sell my K-x to partly finance my K-5, so it soon might be a while before I take new IR pics (I'm not gonna mod the K-5 for now), unless the K-5 shows better "genuine" abilities to IR than my K200 did !

    Once again, I love all of you folks' work.
    I should have started posting long before when I first started following this thread last April-May, but... never too late to start I suppose !

    Talk to you soon I hope !

    William

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    i William, welcome to GDPI, I'm looking forward to seeing some of your images. In the mean time here are a couple from a UK visit over Christmas.

    Black ponies (someone though they did not reflect any IR!)


    Tijou screen


    Kew gardens



    Antiques


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    Eye of the Lion

  47. #597
    aum235
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    Re: How about a more fun with IR thread?

    Mike, your pictures don't show.
    Have you done it right, or does this have anything to do with a glitch on the forum ???

    I'll try uploading a picture as well to see.
    This is one of the IR pics I ever took, in 2006.

  48. #598
    aum235
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    Re: How about a more fun with IR thread?

    Great ! It works !
    More !
    Taken in 2008. Pentax K100D + 18-55 + IR 850nm

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    Re: How about a more fun with IR thread?

    Hmmm, they were OK in preview, but I see are gone now.... sometimes. Let's try this one again in a different way;

    Ponies

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    aum235
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    Re: How about a more fun with IR thread?

    Quote Originally Posted by mbroomfield View Post
    Hmmm, they were OK in preview, but I see are gone now.... sometimes. Let's try this one again in a different way;

    Ponies
    I like your Ponies.
    I like also the fact that you apparently didn't swap the red and blue channels.
    Shot with 720nm filter, right ?
    I myself never swap the channels either. I like the feel of things, specially the skies with 720nm, they look kinda sepia, which I like better than when they look like dark blueish when the channel are swaped.

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