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    More IR links:

    Adjusting White Balance in IR Photos - Digital Camera Reviews & Photography Tips Very easy to follow write up.

    Another one:

    Renaissance in progress... - Infrared Photography: Post-Processing Workflows

    One more:

    Canon Digital Rebel 300D IR Filter Removal Modification and Peltier Cooling Plans -by Gary Honis

    There's literally hundreds of sites addressing IR photography most of which address the use of a lens filter however all address post processing to some degree.
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    those are pretty cool, what does precision camera charge? Life pixel has gone way up and they like to "play" a lot with the camera before you get it back, my D300 was gone for weeks and had over 500 shots on it when I got it back...

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    Thanks for the links Don.

    More info - try swapping channels like this in PS:
    Swapping Red and Blue Channel
    In the Channels Tab - Select the Red Channel and Duplicate Channel (by default it will be named Red copy)
    In the Channels Tab - Select the Blue Channel > then hit Select All > Copy > Now select the Red Channel in the Channels Tab and hit Paste (you are Copying the Blue Channel and Pasting it over the Red Channel)
    In the Channels Tab - Select the Red copy Channel > then hit Select All > Copy
    Now Select the Blue Channel in the Channels Tab and hit paste (you are copying the Red copy Channel and pasting it over the Blue Channel)
    In the Channels Tab - delete the Red copy Channel

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    In addition to swapping channels Invert color channels in LAB mode
    Image > Mode > Lab color
    In the Channels Tab select the channel you wish to invert (Lightness, a or, b) then hit cmd/Ctrl I - this will invert the channel you have selected
    Try several ways:
    Invert the a channel alone
    Invert the b channel alone
    Invert both the a and b channels

    Click on the Lab channel to see the results or hit cmd/Crtl ~

    Inverting the a, b, or a & b channels will turn the infrared red skies to blue (sometimes).

    You can invert the lightness channel as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by viablex1 View Post
    those are pretty cool, what does precision camera charge? Life pixel has gone way up and they like to "play" a lot with the camera before you get it back, my D300 was gone for weeks and had over 500 shots on it when I got it back...
    viablex1 - Their normal fee for full frame was $299 however I got $45 off being a member of PPA. Overnight return shipping was less than $20. You should check with them as I heard they might be raising their prices soon.

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    Don, how accurate did they calibrate your focusing for IR light? eleanor

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    viablex1 - Their normal fee for full frame was $299 however I got $45 off being a member of PPA. Overnight return shipping was less than $20. You should check with them as I heard they might be raising their prices soon.

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    Don, how accurate did they calibrate your focusing for IR light? eleanor
    Eleanor, I think they did a good job; please don't base that on the images of the horses as we just couldn't get them to stand still and pose.



    Not the best of light and I didn't have a tripod with me so I did the best I could. Besides it was after dinner

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    Loved the horse images. Recently I shot some photos of donkeys on the South Park Colorado wide open spaces with approaching storm with my IR camera. Had great fun with these friendly donkeys, but nothing, and I mean nothing, was in focus!! they would stick their noses right up to my camera....sniffed our dog, etc....it was hilarious..only wish the photos had been in sharper focus. OK for very small prints but that's all. eleanor


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    Eleanor, I think they did a good job; please don't base that on the images of the horses as we just couldn't get them to stand still and pose.



    Not the best of light and I didn't have a tripod with me so I did the best I could. Besides it was after dinner

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    I've got a lot of images from yesterday that has nose prints. I did find out I can shoot hand held in burst mode. Yesterday's exercise has me thinking of a new project.
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    Nice eye!!! lol


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    I only have old images..

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    those are cool what you shooting with??

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    Thanks, Viablex.

    The first Epson R-D1s Canon 50/0.95, Hoya R72 filter.

    The rest, a self modified D80-IR (Hoya R72 filter) plus lenses (18-55 nikon kitzoom for the little kid peaking into the camera and the video recording of a rehearsal; a T/S 28mm for the Pigeon and 14-24 Nikkor zoom for the panned shot).

    I do not have the Epson or the D80-IR anymore. I think I may convert an m4/3rds cam for IR and UV. Cindy was kind enough send me the IR cut filter from her G1 (modified for IR). That makes the cutting of the filters easier.

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    Vivek, My favorite is your son zooming on his bike...and I always enjoy your bird/duck photos.

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    My favorite also. if you are shooting with the R72, how are you getting as much color as you're getting? I'm shooting with a 720 filter over the sensor and with the custom white balance I get very little color. eleanor

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    Vivek, My favorite is your son zooming on his bike...and I always enjoy your bird/duck photos.

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    Marina Del Rey CA - Canon G9 - IR converted



    Arlington National Cemetery - Canon G9 - IR converted




    Paris Hotel Las Vegas NV - Canon G2 - IR converted


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    I like the zooming image as well Vivek.

    Howard - Arlington image is very emotional on many levels. The dark moody sky fits in perfectly. Thanks for sharing
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    Don,

    Thank you for comments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eleanorbrown View Post
    My favorite also. if you are shooting with the R72, how are you getting as much color as you're getting? I'm shooting with a 720 filter over the sensor and with the custom white balance I get very little color. eleanor
    Eleanor, The camera I used (D80) has a CCD sensor which has enormous sensitivity in near IR compared to the CMOS sensors from Canon. The NMOS sensor in 4/3rds and m4/3rds cameras (as in Cindy's G1-IR) is even more sensitive to IR (more than the CCD). This, in addition to how Nikon and Canon implemented their Bayer color filters determine the colors, I think.

    Post processing: Don't use any other custom WB. Try Tungsten temperature (linear scale, helps with metering as well) and use the black or white dropper. That does it most of the time.

    FWIW, those who use Nikon cams, the 14-24/2.8 zoom is one sweet lens (the best is their cheap plastic 18-55 AFS kitzoom) for IR, especially at 14mm.

    Cindy, Eleanor and Don- thanks for your kind words.

    Here is one (D80-IR, 10.5mm Fisheye Nikkor) of a Dandelion head (I still have to work the color palette just right).


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    Cindy this image (nice shot btw) reminds me so much of a whole series I did called "Downtown Houston in Infrared"....even did a book on the images. Shot straight up on all the buildings, did a lot of reflections in the glass, etc. IR does a wonderful fob with subject matter like this. Eleanor

    [QUOTE=Cindy Flood;131472]Since we are doing IR with many different cameras, how about a more fun with IR thread?
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    [quote=eleanorbrown;132437]Cindy this image (nice shot btw) reminds me so much of a whole series I did called "Downtown Houston in Infrared"....even did a book on the images. Shot straight up on all the buildings, did a lot of reflections in the glass, etc. IR does a wonderful fob with subject matter like this. Eleanor

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    Since we are doing IR with many different cameras, how about a more fun with IR thread?
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    Thanks, Eleanor. I love this kind of photography. This is a photo from the Mayo Clinic buildings, Rochester, MN. Do you have a link to photos from your Dallas set? I'd love to see them.

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    Thought I'd share these..





    Not too sure which I like better

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    And a couple more







    That's all for today!

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    Don, These are all fantastic. The first one in the second set is my favorite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cindy Flood View Post
    Don, These are all fantastic. The first one in the second set is my favorite.

    Thank you Cindy!
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    those are very cool!!

    Cindy I was going to ask, can the panasonic G1 be IR converted??

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    Okay I had to see what this would look like this way.



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    man was it wet today!!!!!!!










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    Quote Originally Posted by viablex1 View Post
    those are very cool!!

    Cindy I was going to ask, can the panasonic G1 be IR converted??
    Yes, Matt. I had the G1 converted at Precision Camera.

    The turtle shot is fantastic!

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    oh really? cool what do you think of it?

    I love that little guy!!! the toitle!!

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    It is a great size for an IR body. I can put a whole G1 (x2) kit in one bag. I had the G1 IR calibrated with the kit lens. My Oly 50 f/2 is wonderful with it, too. I used the Oly for the IR car show shots.
    I'm just beginning to explore IR. I'm not really too much of a fan of the false color...I like IR better for black and white. Hard to tell where it will all lead.

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    Viablex, I *love* that last one, the blurry one apparently from a car. Tres cool!

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    These are all super folks!

    Don, I really like number 1 in your post above . It appears there is some IR "hot-spotting" in number 3 -- not bad, just notable in the color version. This is usually caused with Asph lenses, so I'm curious as to which lens were you using?

    Viablex: Ditto Lisa's comments on that last image --- such a simple concept, but so VERY cool in its execution!
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    Jack, These were all done with the 24-105 and on the fly. We stopped at the mission just long enough for me to jump out of the jeep camera in hand and walk across the parking lot. All handheld testing to see what would come out in a similar situation.

    Are you speaking about the first images I posted? If so these were taken the day after the camera came home while I was attempting to get the WB set.

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    Viablex1, your images give a great example of what can be done in IR. I'm finding myself now looking with a split thought process; normal color capture with my Cambo WRS/P45+ or IR with the Canon. The first three are nice however I really like the concept of the last two with the last one being my favorite by far.

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    thanks, I had been looking for this place on and off for like four years, it rained like crazy so I was using my camera and holding an umbrella at the same time except for the one in the car.

    I just sent in my D2x for conversion from precision camera so I can utilize more false color..the one thing I need to do is to shoot with a tripod, handheld is conveinent but I like that slight blur on the leaves or glow like the actual film..

    here is another car shot...


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    Thought I'd add a couple from this morning ..









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    man those are fresh!!!

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    Betterlight IR&visible, taken thru an old Meniscus lens














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    Wanted to share these. All shot with 1DsII 24-105 lens and 665nm filter.











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    damn would love to see the next to last one in false color...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Creek View Post
    Wanted to share these. All shot with 1DsII 24-105 lens and 665nm filter.



    [...]

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    Love this series of 5.
    Great textures and without the often over-artificial (personal taste of course) IR tones... and cool compositions don't hurt!

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    Quote Originally Posted by viablex1 View Post
    damn would love to see the next to last one in false color...
    I'll do it tomorrow and post it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corlan F. View Post
    Love this series of 5.
    Great textures and without the often over-artificial (personal taste of course) IR tones... and cool compositions don't hurt!
    Thank you!

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    cool looking forward to it, how long does it typically take precision camera to get back to you when you send something in??

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    Quote Originally Posted by viablex1 View Post
    cool looking forward to it, how long does it typically take precision camera to get back to you when you send something in??
    You would have to check with Mark at Precision, but it only took my G1 one week to come back.

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