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    Re: Negative feedback!!!

    I agree its been along time no question and totally understand. On the issue of several accounts yes it seems so as some use for the B&S and some use to post. I don't understand it myself. I'm Guy and that is who I am. LOL

    BTW thanks for reminding me just sent a note. Hopefully we can clear the air here.
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    Thanks so much Guy!
    I love this forum and will stay long here whatever the result will be.
    Look on the bright side, the Cambo DS and ground glass are perfect although I can't use them with my P1 IQ180
    You and Jack are awesome. I truly appreciate it.
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    Thanks I'm trying to help resolve this. I usually do not get in between these but he has been a good friend so at least its worth a try.
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    Re: Negative feedback!!!

    I have only V-plate and haven't bought the M plate yet. I still enjoy my P1 DF and Mamiya RZ so it is quite OK.
    I've just received an email from Son's friend, Roger explaining what's going on with Son. It makes me understand him better.
    I am not in hurry. If he can drop me an email, it would be great.

    Thanks,
    Pramote

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    Hello Pramote,

    Would you please contact me off line. I would like to speak with you regarding this at your earliest convenience.

    Best Regards,
    Paul

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    Great news he did get in contact with you, I know something is going on why I jumped in and I was going to contact our dealer friends here and see what can be done. Looks like Paul jumped in to help, thanks Paul. We all know **** happens and I agree this has been a long road for you. Thanks Guy
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    Thanks very much for your help!
    I greatly appreciate everything you've done, Guy.
    I will just wait to hear from Son at his convenience.

    Pramote

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    Re: Negative feedback!!!

    I'm new to this forum , but have been around long enough to learn the number one rule when buying .. " buyer beware "

    Unfortunate situation for both parties , as both seem decent people , both with the right intentions .


    In the end there is only one way to avoid this situation .. Buy a new one .!

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    Jun (JP_M23456789), for MIS-LISTING and REFUSING to solve the issue

    Negative feedback for Jun (JP_M23456789), for MIS-LISTING in the sale items' list. I bought from him item Nr. 5 in this sale:

    #5___Hasselblad 500CM outfit #A - $1300
    500CM Chrome Mint body + rear cap (RU 1987)
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Focusing Screen Acute-Matte D with Microprism and Split-image
    PM5 Prism Finder/45º
    80mm Planar CT* with front cap, Mint
    Waist Level finder in Late style with double folding (black)
    A12 – Chrome (RU 1987)
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    Extra Dark Slide
    Hasselblad 100 Polaroid Back
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    Extra Focusing Screen 42218
    Hasselblad Strap
    4 filters (Yel, Red, Hoya PL B-50, Proxar f=0.5m)
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    when I received the package with the goods, I had the unpleasant surprise to find that the

    Extra Focusing Screen 42218

    while clearly mentioned in the sale, was not there and in its place there was a old type screen in the 42218 box, as you can see in the attached photo. The used value of the two items differs by about $100 US, so not a small difference at all.

    Contacted for explanation, Jun refused to compensate me for the mis listing, saying:
    "Hello Vieri,

    Honestly, whatever I have listed and I have sent period."

    and in a following email

    "Sorry for the mis-listing if you insist but that’s what I had and sent what I had."

    Well, as everyone can understand "sorry for the mis-listing if you insist" is not going to cut it of course, I feel defrauded and derided as well (all correspondence is available upon request for those interested in seeing his attitude in full). I STRONGLY recommend to beware in future deals with Jun.
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    Re: Please do not buy from this guy.

    Quote Originally Posted by paul25 View Post
    His ID is Karlo.

    I payed money to buy a lens from a member in Europe, and I think I may have been robbed of my money...

    Here are the links to my PMs with him.


    http://forum.getdpi.com/forum/private.php

    http://forum.getdpi.com/forum/privat...pm&pmid=242316


    I tried to give him enough time (3 months!) to solve the case, but now I feel like a fool.

    Please do not buy from this guy...


    Moderator update: We have been notified that this issue has been settled to the satisfaction of both the buyer and the seller. Appears to have been delivery problems in the country that lens was being shipped to.



    I just want to double confirm that the lens was finally received...
    Karlo evidently told me that that he tried to send the lens 4 times without success...
    Shame with the post office of Croatia....
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    Re: Please do not buy from this guy.

    Quote Originally Posted by paul25 View Post
    I just want to double confirm that the lens was finally received...
    Karlo evidently told me that that he tried to send the lens 4 times without success...
    Shame with the post office of Croatia....
    I'd just like to thank Paul for being so considerate and courteous throughout the whole process and of course the mods and admins for reactivating my account.

    Since then both our customs and postal procedures have changed for better at least for the outbound international shipments while our inbound traffic still lags and sometimes never comes...

    Thanks again.

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    Re: Negative feedback!!!

    A caution about frequent seller YooNoah <>.

    I made two separate transactions with him in early December 2011, one for a Leica 35 Summicron M lens described as excellent on GetDPI. When I received it I found it had about an 1/8" of play in the focusing mount. He said he would couldn't refund me but asked me to send it to Sherry Krauter and pretend it was on loan so that she would repair it for free. Instead I sent it to Youxin, who told me it was so worn out that it was unrepairable. I ended up selling it with an honest description.

    A few days before buying the Cron I purchased a Leica M2 body off RFF from Ark8012 as well. This was described as a recently CLA'd user body with the rapid load upgrade and a new old stock M2 finder installed. He wanted a premium price for it ($875) and described it as being in superior condition in spite of its cosmetics. At first the camera seemed fine but then at higher shutter speeds the shutter showed capping... I didn't catch this until after I had resold the camera in good faith per his description. Instead the camera is so worn that it requires a new shutter brake and more parts, something he had to have known if Youxin just worked on it. Again refused refund and forced me to pursue resolution through PayPal, which is ongoing.

    I understand things slip by but getting burnt two times in row by "overly optimistic" descriptions and then forcing me to pursue him through PayPal or take the hit on repairs or lost value makes YooNoah <> a seller to be avoided in my book.

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    PLEASE FEEL FREE TO REPOST THIS on other photo forums as he seems to be active on many of them. If RFF and APUG members would warn their peers too I'd appreciate it (as I am no longer on those sites). This won't help me resolve anything and all he has to do is to get a new email account, but it might save somebody some grief and it feels good to do something.
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    Answer for Frank's feedback.

    We made the transaction for the M2 on 1st of Dec, 2011. He tried to open a case today, even before he got my answer. (I did not force him to open a case clearly). (email from Frank, 2:17pm, and email from Paypal for this issue, 2:18pm)

    He got refused from Paypal because it is over 3 monthes old transaction.

    First, I did not know the inside condition of the M2 body, and I used the description from Youxin Ye after he CLA'd the M2. Furthermore, I BOUGHT the M2 directly from Youxin Ye. So I trusted what Youxin said about the M2.

    After he used the M2 for couple of days or weeks, he resold the M2. I asked him the reason, and he answered he prefered to use M6. He did not mentioned any problems at that time. The new buyer raised the shutter speed issue. It was covered by the Warranty of Youxin Ye. Somehow, he got it back the M2 very recently, I do not know the reason. He is trying to re-paint the M2 as I read his thread in the other forum. In his email, he asked me to pay for the repair, never asked me for refund, which I think he is trying to repaint and make me pay for the repaire cost during the repainting. (I am not sure, but very suspicous)

    Anyways, I do not think I have a responsibility for 3 monthes old transaction. Who know if he did something wrong on the body during that time. I think this is very ridiculous case.

    For the Summicron, I described the lens as USER Condition!! It had a few cleaning marks and two pencil tip size scrathes. How can I say excellent condition for the lens with those marks?
    (He paid $1100 for the lens, very reasonable price for the condition).

    He contacted me a week later after he received the lens. He said the lens is ok. Anyways, I did not know the issue when I sold the lens, so I CLEARLY mentioned that I will refund the money. Unfortunately, I already spent the money for my family (at the end of year, we need money for family, right?) So I asked him whether I can refund as soon as I make enough money. He can have the lens until that time.

    He suggusted me if he can try to re-sell the lens or repair the lens. We agreed to send the lens to Sherry, who CLA'd the lens, just before I sold. She agreed to fix the lens for free of charge. After couple of days, I asked him whether he sent the lens or not. He said he sent the lens to Youxin Ye, without telling me. (I arranged the repair with Sherry already at that time). Eventually, Youxin said the lens might value about $1100 to $1200 with all known issues. He sold the lens for $1150. However he kept the front cap and the hood for the lens which I sold together in the price. He certainly made a profit.

    The funny thing is, I PMed him to ask why he said in his ad for the Summicron I did not want to refund, he answered me that "do not care about the lens anymore, he will take care, and just let it go."

    Now he raised the issue, which is also 3 monthes old.

    I have bought and sold some gears here and there, he is the only one made an issue, and yes.. 3 monthes after the transaction....

    Frank, please do not buy from me again. there are so many good members to deal with.
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    Re: Negative feedback!!!

    That's a lot of lurking and assumptions on your part, Ark8012. And most of what you're saying is twisted or wrong.

    The reason the M2 issue resurfaced is because I had sold it, not knowing that it was capping, to a college student in California. That poor kid went back and forth with it for almost three months until I told him to send the camera back to me and if I found it was capping then I would refund his money, which I did. And that is why this is an issue now. You represented this camera as being much better than the typical $500 user-grade M2 and you charged a premium price for it. So you either lied outright or you bullshitted about a $500 body so that you could resell it for $875.

    Basically you've ripped me off for the difference between $875 and $500, at the least, plus hours of hassles and shipping fees.

    As for the lens, you should have taken it back outright instead of asking me to lie to Sherry, which sounded really fishy so that is why I sent it to someone else. I trust the experienced repairman when he tells me it the focusing mount's play was because it was worn beyond replacement. Even though I only paid $1100 for the lens you still described it as excellent mechanically, which it most certainly was not. And even though I was able to sell it - and included the cap and shade without even mentioning them - it still was bad business for you to describe an expensive lens as excellent when it had that amount of play.

    Oh and for your "refund" scheme you wanted me to pay you more via PayPal and then you would send me a refund as a PayPal gift? Sorry, that was too strange and complex to even contemplate....

    As for wanting to paint a camera or anything else I do, that is my business. If the camera is repaired successfully, maybe I'll paint it. So what's that matter to you, other than being a stalker? In addition to being a lousy person to buy a camera from....

    Ask anyone else I've traded with on multiple forums or from the 1200+ eBay transactions and you won't find one complaint. It takes a lot to piss me off enough to "out" you but you managed.

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    Frank,

    There might be a lot of assuptions on my part, because you did not tell me anything until you open the case on Paypal after 3 monthes, and receiving the email from you with threatening me by saying that you will raise this issue on the Forum if I did not pay for the repair. I always try to give an inspection period for what I sold, but not for 3 monthes. I am wondering who will.

    For the M2, a buyer and a seller decide the price, and we agreed on the price. I described the M2 what I got from Youxin Ye, who is the man you trust.

    For summicron, I CLEARLY mentioned I will TAKE BACK. I was afraid that Sherry avoid her warranty if she knows I sold the lens. I explained to you CLEARLY. You AGREED on that. I do not know you included the cap and shade, because you said "Comes with rear cap and will be protected on the front. This takes 39mm screw-in hoods (get a $12 vented Heavystar on eBay)." on your ad.
    http://www.rangefinderforum.com/phot...eat-user/cat/2

    So you added the front cap and the hood even though you mentioned to buy a $12 hood on ebay, right??

    You do your business, and I will do my business. Let's see what the other members say. I will not answer anymore until I see some feedbacks from others. I do not ruin this thread with our conversation.
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    Re: Negative feedback!!!

    If your descriptions and sketchy resolutions to problems only happened once then I'd almost understand, since everyone makes mistakes. But you did two problematic transactions within a week, so that tells me that you are not to be trusted. I realize that I'm screwed out of at least $375 and many hours of hassles and shipping fees.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Petronio View Post
    If your descriptions and sketchy resolutions to problems only happened once then I'd almost understand, since everyone makes mistakes. But you did two problematic transactions within a week, so that tells me that you are not to be trusted. I realize that I'm screwed out of at least $375 and many hours of hassles and shipping fees.
    I have to answer one more time, sorry for the other members.

    Frank, you boght the M2 on 1st of Dec, and the Summicron 1st of Jan. There were a month gap, if you do math in right way. Please think who is trying to emphasize this strange issue, and lying.

    As I told you, I am not a professional and that's why I am giving an inspection period. I never ever heard that someone trying to screw up the transaction after 3 monthes later.

    By the way, I have to quote your post, since you changed your post after I replied. I do not make others missunderstand again.

    ================================================== ================================================== ==================================================

    I want to update the information from Youxin Ye directly. This is the email from Youxin. I changed the person's name who bought the M2 from Frank to NEW OWNER.

    1) 1st email from Youxin
    Noah,
    After NEW OWNER got the camera, he told me it has uneven exposure problem. I increased the shutter slit on the camera. I think too much slit will cause shutter work irregularly. From your side and Frank side, all told me the camera was good initially. When NEW OWNER sent me the camera, I tested speeds at left, middle and right, all worked fine. NEW OWNER is a college student, I believe he is a beginner too.
    Regards,
    Youxin

    2) my reply
    Youxin,
    You mean there is a possiblity that the change (increasing the shutter slit) might cause the problem, right?
    Thanks,
    Noah

    3) answer from Youxin
    Noah,
    It is possible if we adjust shutter speeds back to normal. In worst case, I think the shutter brake may need change. But I have to see after adjust shutter speeds back to normal first. The third owner **** really drove me crazy, with two people tested the camera and he insist the camera had uneven exposure.
    Regards,
    Youxin

    ================================================== ================================================== ================================================== ====

    This email confirmed that Frank got the good working M2 from me. That's what he told to Youxin.
    At least he told the M2 had no problem mechanically to me, Youxin, and his own thread (about only a week ago, read the second comment by Frank in the middle of page, http://www.rangefinderforum.com/foru...d.php?t=116685 )

    Frank hided the point that Youxin Ye had to increase the shutter slit. This change is the major problem now, since possible problems can occur when Youxin adjust shutter sppeds back to normal.

    I really do not understand why he try to open the case with me. Certainly I do not have any responsibility for the possible user caused problem after I sold the M2 long time ago, 3 monthes.
    Last edited by ark8012; 11th March 2012 at 22:35. Reason: updating comment from Youxin Ye

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    Re: Negative feedback!!!

    Personally, I would never buy from someone who hides behind a false name. In any case, as far as I can see you are both only here for the buy and sell, so I guess you deserve each other. Seems its more of a business, than the photography, so perhaps you should both be in the commercial vendor section. Reminds me of a couple of cats fighting over a fish head.

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    Re: Negative feedback!!!

    Right, because I have so much to gain from all of this.... The weasel screwed me and I know I'll take the hit, but at least I might save some other buyers some grief.

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    Re: Negative feedback!!!

    Raywest,

    I am a beginner for the photography, I obtained my first leica in last October. I am trying to set up the best suitable gears to me, so I am buying and selling couple of time here. I do not post any photos yet, since I did not get a good result with my confidence.
    I am not a commercial. I use my REAL name always. I will try to work more as a regular member. Thanks,

    Noah

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    Re: Negative feedback!!!

    My take at this whole thing based on what you have written. You can agree or disagree but since you both posted here, you are looking for opinions, here are my 2 cents.

    1. Seller is at fault for improperly describing the condition of the 35mm summicron. Seller did not do his due diligence.

    2. Buyer and seller should have communicated together to send the lens to Sherry Krauter for warranty work. If buyer believes the repair should be paid for by the seller, then seller should have the final and only say in where the lens needs to be shipped for repair. When the buyer went against the seller's instruction and sent the lens off to Youxin, to me, the lens now fully belongs to the buyer. Seller no longer holds ownership nor responsibility (Buyer did not act in seller's behalf and now has taken ownership). Seller may choose to reimburse a portion of the repair costs (If he's nice).

    3. It is buyer's responsibility to check the item and make sure everything works as it should when received in a timely manner. This is also seller's responsibility, but as the buyer said, the buyer himself sold the camera without fully checking either, so the buyer cannot blame the seller for such without admitting his own mistake.

    4. It is generally not a good practice and etiquette to complain about an item 3 months after purchase. Buyer cannot prove that the defect was inherent when received and seller will not accept that the defect was inherent after 3 months. No private sellers provide 3 month warranty. Asking/granting for such is both irresponsible and unrealistic.

    In the end, if I buy anything from ark8012, I will be sure to ask lots and lots of questions and request a grace period to fully test the item.

    Frank Petronio should have worked with ark8012 to resolve the lens issue (sounds like ark8012 was willing to work together) and brought up the M2 issue early, and not after 3 months.
    Scott
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    Re: Negative feedback!!!

    Thank you for your comment. Scott.

    Yes, I am always giving an inspection period for the gears I sold (except international sales or AS-IS item, I clearly mention when I cannot provide an inspection period in my ad). I am trying to describe my gears in detail with my knowledge, but I might miss something, that's why I am giving an inspection period. I also keep the money from buyers in my paypal account until the end of the inspection period. So I can refund quickly if a buyer wants to return.

    There are some positive feedbacks for me. The buyers were satisfied with my description, fast shipping, safe packing, and "most importantly" good communication.

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    Re: Negative feedback!!!

    Okay enough. This has become a war of insults and acquisitions, not a discussion of coming to any type of agreement . Take it off line work it out or don't work it out but this really is not a warning to other members but way above what the intention was for negative feedback. Take it offline now. A message was delivered pure and simple be it right , wrong or indifferent. Thanks Guy

    Private wars are meant to be private not public.

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    Re: Negative feedback!!!

    Very negative feedback for the user "mselderhuis" with the following email adress:
    [email protected]
    I bought to Makina 67 from him, and booth had problems he did not mention
    One had the VF very foggy needing a clean service
    The other has dead meter
    After contacting him he said that the solution was for me to buy a hand meter
    He does not wan't to assume his bad behaviour as a seller
    So I wish to tell everyone to be very aware with this member
    Thank you all

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    Re: Negative feedback!!!

    Actually, this is the first time that I post a negative feedback. The seller did not have any responsibility. I bought a Noctilux E60 v4 from Geoffrey Roberts (Geoff Roberts, [email protected]) in order to replace the one I sold due to my past financial problem.

    http://forum.getdpi.com/forum/gear-f...mm-f1-e60.html

    I asked him to confirm if the glass has any problem such as scratches, haze, etc., and he still confirmed that the glass is in an excellent condition. After the lens was shipped to me, I inspected its condition and found that the front element has several obvious scratches. When I asked for a compensation, this guy told me that the lens is still in an excellent condition and can take pictures without any problem. He refused to do anything. If there is a problem, he should let me know at the beginning so I can decide if I should buy it or not. It seems that he just tried to get rid of the lens that has some defects. Don't buy from this guy again. You cannot trust his word.

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    Re: Negative feedback!!!

    I need to report this....

    The original link:
    http://forum.getdpi.com/forum/gear-f...asph-lens.html

    I sent the payment via paypal on 2012/2/18 and the seller(KKnight) from [email protected] said that he won't be able to ship the lens until 2/22 due to his work schedule. However, he just didn't respond to my e-mail and didn't ship the item later on.

    I had opened the case and probably will get the refund from paypal in these few days since we didn't get any answer.

    I am going to post the negative feedback after the case was closed but I just found that he/she is trying to sell a 1DsIII here ....
    http://forum.getdpi.com/forum/gear-f...-mark-iii.html

    Please confirm he will ship the camera or don't send your payment!!!

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    Re: Jun (JP_M23456789), for MIS-LISTING and REFUSING to solve the issue

    Quote Originally Posted by vieri View Post
    Negative feedback for Jun (JP_M23456789), for MIS-LISTING in the sale items' list. I bought from him item Nr. 5 in this sale:

    #5___Hasselblad 500CM outfit #A - $1300
    500CM Chrome Mint body + rear cap (RU 1987)
    -42215
Focusing Screen Acute-Matte D with Microprism and Split-image
    PM5 Prism Finder/45º
    80mm Planar CT* with front cap, Mint
    Waist Level finder in Late style with double folding (black)
    A12 – Chrome (RU 1987)
    A12 - Black (RE 1989)
    A12 – Black (EC 1995)
    Extra Dark Slide
    Hasselblad 100 Polaroid Back
    Hasselblad Pro-Shade
    Extra Focusing Screen 42218
    Hasselblad Strap
    4 filters (Yel, Red, Hoya PL B-50, Proxar f=0.5m)
    Hasselblad Tripod Quick release

    when I received the package with the goods, I had the unpleasant surprise to find that the

    Extra Focusing Screen 42218

    while clearly mentioned in the sale, was not there and in its place there was a old type screen in the 42218 box, as you can see in the attached photo. The used value of the two items differs by about $100 US, so not a small difference at all.

    Contacted for explanation, Jun refused to compensate me for the mis listing, saying:
    "Hello Vieri,

    Honestly, whatever I have listed and I have sent period."

    and in a following email

    "Sorry for the mis-listing if you insist but that’s what I had and sent what I had."

    Well, as everyone can understand "sorry for the mis-listing if you insist" is not going to cut it of course, I feel defrauded and derided as well (all correspondence is available upon request for those interested in seeing his attitude in full). I STRONGLY recommend to beware in future deals with Jun.

    Please let's get over with miscommunication.

    It's miscommunication. I shipped the package to Italy and the man wasn't there to check it out. He was in Istanbul and his assistant looked at the package. He wanted a discount and I gave him $100 off.
    It took 4 days to get to Italy but those Italian mail system took weeks and weeks and the guy was panicking over that this is going to be a problem and finally hi got the package.
    He was upset over the "Focusing Screen Acute-Matte D with Microprism and Split-image" which was already inside the Hasselblad and the old screen was in the Acute-Matte case. But he kept asking the "Focusing Screen Acute-Matte D with Microprism and Split-image" and he wanted another $100 off for compensation after the sale was over a month. That's no reason to give a negative feedback. It's miscommunication over the wrong box.

    I simply said you had your deal and got the package and done deal.
    That's why I don't want to do another international sales even with tracking. Canada post got to a destination country in 4 days and their own country mail hold up the package for no reason and I get all the blame. It's a nightmare.

    Hope this explain those incident.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JP_M23456789 View Post
    Please let's get over with miscommunication.

    It's miscommunication. I shipped the package to Italy and the man wasn't there to check it out. He was in Istanbul and his assistant looked at the package. He wanted a discount and I gave him $100 off.
    It took 4 days to get to Italy but those Italian mail system took weeks and weeks and the guy was panicking over that this is going to be a problem and finally hi got the package.
    He was upset over the "Focusing Screen Acute-Matte D with Microprism and Split-image" which was already inside the Hasselblad and the old screen was in the Acute-Matte case. But he kept asking the "Focusing Screen Acute-Matte D with Microprism and Split-image" and he wanted another $100 off for compensation after the sale was over a month. That's no reason to give a negative feedback. It's miscommunication over the wrong box.

    I simply said you had your deal and got the package and done deal.
    That's why I don't want to do another international sales even with tracking. Canada post got to a destination country in 4 days and their own country mail hold up the package for no reason and I get all the blame. It's a nightmare.

    Hope this explain those incident.
    No miscommunication. You misrepresented your sale, and ripped me off as a result. All the rest is absolutely irrelevant to the case. You explicitly mentioned in the list of items included in the sale I am referring to:

    - Extra Focusing Screen 42218

    but unfortunately, as you admit now, there was just THE BOX of the screen in question, full with a regular, old style screen. The difference in value between the Extra Focusing Screen 42218 and the regular old screen (C style, THAT old!) is about 100 $, which is the amount you ripped me off with your misrepresentation of sale, and which you repeatedly refused to compensate me with, saying, as you did here "you had your deal and got the package and done deal" which I am sorry is simply not good enough. Imagine any common thief saying, when caught, "I got the items off the store, done deal"!!

    More, now you are lying and saying that I was writing you about the Focusing Screen Acute-Matte D with Microprism and Split-image when you know this is not the case: I ALWAYS protested about you not including the Extra Focusing Screen 42218, as is clear per my post here and per all our correspondence which is available for all to see upon request.

    This will be my last reply on the matter, I am sure that everyone can see through all your BS including mail system etc which, again, is ABSOLUTELY IRRELEVANT to the fact that you included the Extra Focusing Screen 42218 box WITH A DIFFERENT SCREEN IN IT, misrepresenting your sale and therefore not giving me the value I was expecting for my money - therefore, practically, stealing 100 $ from me.

    Anyway, the 100 $ you stole from me are gone, I am in peace with that and sincerely I am feeling very sorry for you - you must be in very poor shape if stealing 100 $ from me makes such a change in your life that you are ready to loose you honor over them. I definitely wouldn't like to be you.

    What I sincerely hope, more than recovering my money, is that you will not be able to defraud anyone else here on any other forum and I will do all I can do to try and make sure that no one will be in my unfortunate position of being ripped off after dealing with you as I have been.
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    Hello Vieri,

    It wasn't a good experience for you and me. I wanted it to be as smooth transaction as possible but you aggravate me about the delaying all the while since it not my fault and making me feel guilty for not my responsibility. It built up distrust among us as you mention that you don't know if I put a stone instead of cameras and stuff. Anyway beside the point but it caused some friction here.

    For whatever that Acute-Matte box I have sold you was the Acute-Matte screen with the box that I bought from powerseller from the states.
    I had simply put that new screen in the camera and store the old one in that box that came with it.

    I didn't know that you thought there were expecting TWO Acute-Matte in the sale.
    Let's forget about all that miscommunication here.
    Would you be compensated if I refund you $100?
    I regret that somewhat miscommunication happened here.

    Please send me an email directly if you want to resolve this.
    I want it end happy for both of us.

    Jun


    Quote Originally Posted by vieri View Post
    No miscommunication. You misrepresented your sale, and ripped me off as a result. All the rest is absolutely irrelevant to the case. You explicitly mentioned in the list of items included in the sale I am referring to:

    - Extra Focusing Screen 42218

    but unfortunately, as you admit now, there was just THE BOX of the screen in question, full with a regular, old style screen. The difference in value between the Extra Focusing Screen 42218 and the regular old screen (C style, THAT old!) is about 100 $, which is the amount you ripped me off with your misrepresentation of sale, and which you repeatedly refused to compensate me with, saying, as you did here "you had your deal and got the package and done deal" which I am sorry is simply not good enough. Imagine any common thief saying, when caught, "I got the items off the store, done deal"!!

    More, now you are lying and saying that I was writing you about the Focusing Screen Acute-Matte D with Microprism and Split-image when you know this is not the case: I ALWAYS protested about you not including the Extra Focusing Screen 42218, as is clear per my post here and per all our correspondence which is available for all to see upon request.

    This will be my last reply on the matter, I am sure that everyone can see through all your BS including mail system etc which, again, is ABSOLUTELY IRRELEVANT to the fact that you included the Extra Focusing Screen 42218 box WITH A DIFFERENT SCREEN IN IT, misrepresenting your sale and therefore not giving me the value I was expecting for my money - therefore, practically, stealing 100 $ from me.

    Anyway, the 100 $ you stole from me are gone, I am in peace with that and sincerely I am feeling very sorry for you - you must be in very poor shape if stealing 100 $ from me makes such a change in your life that you are ready to loose you honor over them. I definitely wouldn't like to be you.

    What I sincerely hope, more than recovering my money, is that you will not be able to defraud anyone else here on any other forum and I will do all I can do to try and make sure that no one will be in my unfortunate position of being ripped off after dealing with you as I have been.

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    Hello Jun,

    first of all, about the trust: of course I had no trust issues with you to begin with, please tell me what can be showing more trust than sending you thousands of dollars hoping that you ship the items you listed?

    Besides that. You listed, one last time:
    #5___Hasselblad 500CM outfit #A - $1300
    500CM Chrome Mint body + rear cap (RU 1987)
    -42215
Focusing Screen Acute-Matte D with Microprism and Split-image

    ...

    Extra Focusing Screen 42218

    which means, in plain english, ONE 42215
Focusing Screen Acute-Matte D with Microprism and Split-image AND ONE Extra Focusing Screen 42218. NOT two acute matte, as you keep implying I was somehow expecting, NOT one acute matte D and one old crappy screen as you sent over.

    So, please drop the misunderstanding bit.

    That said and done, I appreciate your finally being willing to compensate me for the difference in the screens' value. You can PayPal me the 100 $ difference to my PayPal address, the same I used to send you the payment, and that would definitely be appreciated. I am only sorry it took me to go public on the forum for this to happen, and I will of course let the forum know once and if the dispute is settled.

    Best,

    Vieri

    Quote Originally Posted by JP_M23456789 View Post
    Hello Vieri,

    It wasn't a good experience for you and me. I wanted it to be as smooth transaction as possible but you aggravate me about the delaying all the while since it not my fault and making me feel guilty for not my responsibility. It built up distrust among us as you mention that you don't know if I put a stone instead of cameras and stuff. Anyway beside the point but it caused some friction here.

    For whatever that Acute-Matte box I have sold you was the Acute-Matte screen with the box that I bought from powerseller from the states.
    I had simply put that new screen in the camera and store the old one in that box that came with it.

    I didn't know that you thought there were expecting TWO Acute-Matte in the sale.
    Let's forget about all that miscommunication here.
    Would you be compensated if I refund you $100?
    I regret that somewhat miscommunication happened here.

    Please send me an email directly if you want to resolve this.
    I want it end happy for both of us.

    Jun
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    Quote Originally Posted by raywest View Post
    Personally, I would never buy from someone who hides behind a false name.
    You mean a screen name like "Tesselator"?

    I hope not! And a name like Bob Smith is no more of a guarantee of anything.

    I certainly "hide" behind a false name but if anyone is ever dissatisfied with something I sold where the description doesn't match or even just where they made a mistake in translating of the description's meaning I'll refund everything immediately and pay for shipping both ways - immediately!

    Just saying! Don't rag on the 99.99% of us using screen names because some crook or semi-crook happens also to be using one.

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    Hello Jun,

    thank you for finally accepting the situation and sending 100 $ as compensation for your misrepresentation in the original sale's ad. I want to publicly confirm that I got your PayPal refund OK, I much appreciate it, and consider the matter finally closed - it took almost two months and posting here, but I am happy to report that you finally came to your senses.

    I wish you all the best in future sales, hoping that you will be more careful in your listings in order to avoid to find yourself in similar situations in the future.

    Quote Originally Posted by JP_M23456789 View Post
    Hello Vieri,

    It wasn't a good experience for you and me. I wanted it to be as smooth transaction as possible but you aggravate me about the delaying all the while since it not my fault and making me feel guilty for not my responsibility. It built up distrust among us as you mention that you don't know if I put a stone instead of cameras and stuff. Anyway beside the point but it caused some friction here.

    For whatever that Acute-Matte box I have sold you was the Acute-Matte screen with the box that I bought from powerseller from the states.
    I had simply put that new screen in the camera and store the old one in that box that came with it.

    I didn't know that you thought there were expecting TWO Acute-Matte in the sale.
    Let's forget about all that miscommunication here.
    Would you be compensated if I refund you $100?
    I regret that somewhat miscommunication happened here.

    Please send me an email directly if you want to resolve this.
    I want it end happy for both of us.

    Jun
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tesselator View Post
    You mean a screen name like "Tesselator"?

    I hope not! And a name like Bob Smith is no more of a guarantee of anything.

    I certainly "hide" behind a false name but if anyone is ever dissatisfied with something I sold where the description doesn't match or even just where they made a mistake in translating of the description's meaning I'll refund everything immediately and pay for shipping both ways - immediately!

    Just saying! Don't rag on the 99.99% of us using screen names because some crook or semi-crook happens also to be using one.
    As I said, 'Personally'. Maybe it's cultural, perhaps related to honesty and integrity, that sort of thing. I see no need to invent a name, unless you are trying to hide from the 'real you'. Of course 'Mr Bob Smith' may not be a real name, but perhaps I'd bother to look, and then check it out. Equally, I never bother if the only phone number is a mobile, or email is yahoo or hotmail or similar. Just my decision, after a few years trading on the net, and elsewhere.

    I was not implying that either of the guys to which my response was directed were crooks, I was just pointing out the fact that Frank, using a readily traceable name, would have a real world reputation, but Ark??? would not, and because of that fact I would not buy from him. It is my choice, my opinion; you, and others can make your own choices.

    Best wishes,

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    http://forum.getdpi.com/forum/gear-f...ital-back.html

    this guy is a scam.

    I helped my friend to contact the seller thru here. They communicated thru personal email and agreed the transaction on 10th May 2012.

    After got the paypal payment, the seller said he/she had to wait to withdraw money to the bank account before shipping and the process was normally taken 4-5 days. Then my friend asked for status sometimes, and after last wednesday, no response anymore. Now it's on paypal file.

    Please beware of the same name in other forum.

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    We really hope to see the delivery evidence. We have your email record as well.

    And members can google this guy and see there's various post about he's using others' pics to sell.
    Quote Originally Posted by annasegin View Post
    The poster above me is lying. His "friend" after being shipped the Hasselblad CFV-39 and accessories wanted to back out because he thought it was a MS model which is wasnt nor did I ever claim it to be. I said no refund. He has now filed a dispute with PayPal which he will lose because I have electronic copies of our correspondence, a tracking no., and confirmation of delivery. I listed everything that was listed in my PP invoice in great detail. Must be some "friend" as a guy with a single post posting negative feedback regarding an issue that doesnt concern "you" and is pending atm. This member has been stalking me throughout various photography forums spamming "scammer" comments on various threads that I have posted. Do not do business with "him" or his "friend" as I have had a very bad business experience with them thus far. Thanks.

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    I can vouch for Issa918, he might be new here, but he has traded on other forum and he takes very good care on every transaction. Issa issa918 is also very knowledgable about equipments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by awslee View Post
    I can vouch for Issa918, he might be new here, but he has traded on other forum and he takes very good care on every transaction. Issa issa918 is also very knowledgable about equipments.
    Thanks, awslee! Yes, I 'm much active on local forum and RRF before.

    FYI, paypal just refunded to my friend after 10 days and that scam guy didn't respond at all. We should be more careful. Luckily we didn't pay by wire transfer.

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    Annasegin tried to sell a hasselblad lens to me a while ago when i responded to a classified ad and and never responded after my request for references. Then I posted a wanted listing 2 months after that for the same lens and I got an email from a different email address with the same exact pictures that were in her previous ad. Very shady and I'm not the only one that has had issues with her. Avoid at all costs. We have all asked her to post references to prove she is real, with real gear and she has never stepped up.

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    I don't want to do this ...

    I buy a Canon 20mm f2.8 and Yashica 124G from Decisive Momentum in the topic:
    http://forum.getdpi.com/forum/gear-f...3-tlr-etc.html

    I have a small problem and mail to him, but after few email he do not reply.
    It is not polite. Beware with this man!

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    I bought 3 Leica R lenses from Wayne Pease (user name=smokysun) two weeks ago, but one of the lenses was not described correctly by him, there is a piece of long hair or something like a piece of hair inside lens, behind front element, which affects photo image. I contacted him and wanted to return the lens or get some refund back. I emailed him, but he did not respond and disappeared. I strongly suggest nobody should buy anything from him and he should be removed from this forum because he is not honest. David
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    wow, what a twisted story this has become. let's just say in the end he recovered six hundred dollars. seems more than fair to me and his criticism, if partly fair, certainly not the whole story. i regret the whole mess.

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    You as a senior member really disappointed me in this forum! You were not honest and did not take your responsibility. If Paypal did not force you, you would not partially refund my loss. You still owe me money.

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    I would like to give a negative feedback to the Member "Bruno".

    In November last year i made a trade with him, a Leica M3 for a Zeiss Ikon.

    When i received the camera, there was a little problem, the AE lock button was stuck, and i immediately replied to Bruno, and he said that the camera was fine, but that didn't bother me a lot, then after 5 or so rolls of film, i detected another problem, the left sides of the film had a strange overexposed thing:







    I sent another email to him asking what the hack was this and he replied "I don't know, I think You are complaining without knowledge."

    Then i told him that i was going to my local repairman to see if i could solve this problem and after that i would send him the bill, he replied:

    "Completely NO.

    Star watching the pictures, last before sent to You:
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/bruniroquai/8278718139/in/photostream/"

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    He sent me the camera without spoon and he told me: "Go **** yourself".

    I've never had that problem You can see my pictures on the Flickr.

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    Blatant scam by member juyjoy also known as mary joy florece from the Philippines (probably not a real name). We were going to trade her 50mm summilux asph for my 35 lux and 50 cron. she sent me the following photo along with closer images of the lens as proof that she had the lens.


    DSC02015 by jon.manes, on Flickr

    a lot of what she was saying did not add up. i tried to cancel and She claimed she shipped it already via fedex and had the receipt with her but when i asked to see it, it was at home. I decided to go on with the deal because she had already shipped and i did not want to screw her out of shipping costs, i only asked that she show me the fed ex receipt. but then the package was delivered back to her house by accident... within a day of being dropped off. she then said not to worry her cousin was going to drop it back off and probably already had... but is was very late over there so the timing did not add up. i thought about it for an hour or so had a really bad gut feeling and told her i was cancelling, i didn't trust the deal or her. she did a very good job of making me feel like i was wrong for not trusting her and her cousin already shipped it and she would show me the shipping details soon, she sent me the shipping label and i apologized and said i would ship... again she had me. but after further review she did not claim a value for customs and claimed it as accessories... it just did not add up. i told her to reclaim her package and offered to pay for her shipping costs if she would send me receipts. she would not send me the receipts even then claiming I told her if it got here i would ship my lenses to her but i did not trust it and had a bad gut feeling. she got mad and did a very good job of making me feel guilty for not trusting her. we cancelled the deal and she was going to reclaim her package and sell it to a more 'reliable' person... i felt bad but had to trust my gut.

    Her package actually shipped though, i guess she could not stop it. it came in today. my wife got it and opened it.


    imagejpeg_2 by jon.manes, on Flickr

    it was a small heavily used vice in a box. completely blatant scam.

    here is all the info i have about this person hopefully it helps someone else prevent a scam from this person. no doubt they will create a new user id and email and use a new name, the address though that is were they wanted it shipped so i would look out for that.

    member name Juyjoy
    email used: [email protected]
    shipping details and phone number used.
    Mary Joy Florece
    328 San Agustin Street, Bolante 2
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    Metro Manila, NCR
    Philippines, 1600
    09183197466

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    Jon,

    That was a close shave! Glad that you didn't get burned and thanks for warning us all.

    Pete.

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    Thanks Pete, i sure am glad i pulled out.
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    So does member "juyjoy" get banned for this little stunt? Just wondering.
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    probably not a real name.

    facebook page - http://www.facebook.com/maryjoy.florece.1?fref=ts

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    Jon, that was a blatant scam. Any honest person would not have problem sending you the Fedex receipt, along with the declared custom value. Leica users is a small bunch, and I think we all treasure our little lenses. I would have walked out on the deal after she failed to present the receipt for the first time. Fedex cost on her be damned--scammers have to pay the cost of business too.

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