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    1Ds MKIII + Zeiss ZE 21mm Distagon

    Just received my Distagon 21mm this afternoon and was doing some tests indoor. Boy this lens blows my recently purchased 24mm TS/E II out of the water. Once I find some time to shoot some real images with this lens, I'll post them.

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    Re: 1Ds MKIII + Zeiss ZE 21mm Distagon

    Quote Originally Posted by Henry Goh View Post
    Boy this lens blows my recently purchased 24mm TS/E II out of the water.
    In what way? I have the 24mm TS-E II, and I think it's a spectacular lens (no CA, no barrel/pincushion or mustache distortion, no soft corners, extremely sharp lens overall), so I am curious to hear your thoughts on this.

    I look forward to your samples, as I find myself wanting a good 20 or 21mm prime. When I was using my 16-35mm L II for landscapes, I most often used it at 20mm.

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    Re: 1Ds MKIII + Zeiss ZE 21mm Distagon

    The most significant difference for me is the micro-contrast. My quick comparison shows it is very good at that and for me in a very wide lens, it is important.

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    Re: 1Ds MKIII + Zeiss ZE 21mm Distagon

    Henry:

    When you post images for us, do us a big favor and post an identical images from the 24TSE-2 along side, and with crops too, exact same exposure and processing settings from both lenses, etc, etc. I for one, would be very interested in the direct comparisons!

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    Re: 1Ds MKIII + Zeiss ZE 21mm Distagon

    I have no chance to use the lens in work yet but a quick capture during my break in the office. This is the full image view.


    Camera used: Canon 1Ds MKIII ISO200, f/10. Processed in C1 then sharpened in PS CS4 with Nik sharpener.

    Crops follow:









    Link to the full size jpeg file here
    Last edited by Henry Goh; 13th January 2010 at 19:33.

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    Re: 1Ds MKIII + Zeiss ZE 21mm Distagon

    Henry this is the new Zeiss 21mm distagon and not the older discontinued model?

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    Re: 1Ds MKIII + Zeiss ZE 21mm Distagon

    Yes this is the Zeiss ZE which means it has no aperture ring and it has electronics that allows you to control the aperture from the Canon body like a Canon lens.

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    Re: 1Ds MKIII + Zeiss ZE 21mm Distagon

    Henry thank you for posting
    wondering where was your focus point and did you focus via Live View or good old fashion way through view finder?
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    Re: 1Ds MKIII + Zeiss ZE 21mm Distagon

    The first cropped image is the focus point. I use a split screen on my 1Ds MKIII and also rely on the focus indicator. I had micro-adjusted the focus but found there was no need as the ZERO setting is dead on. The superb DOF is really nice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Henry Goh View Post
    The superb DOF is really nice.
    I agree
    which is why I asked about the focus point.
    Thanks for the answer
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    Re: 1Ds MKIII + Zeiss ZE 21mm Distagon

    It looks fantastic! I love the zeiss's lack of distortion, and the sharpness is impressive. I am not a canon shooter, so please do not take this as trolling, but is the 1DsIII normally that noisy at ISO 200, or are they some sort of processing artifacts? The file is REALLY crunchy.
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    Re: 1Ds MKIII + Zeiss ZE 21mm Distagon

    Zeiss 21 has mustache distortion just like the C/Y version.
    Take a look at the line near the ceiling in the back.
    These files look extra noisy for iso 200 as if they were underexposed a lot and pushed in post.
    Canon 17 and 24 TS-E mk2 have less distortion than ZE 21

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    Re: 1Ds MKIII + Zeiss ZE 21mm Distagon

    Quote Originally Posted by wayne_s View Post
    Zeiss 21 has mustache distortion just like the C/Y version.
    I have a C/Y 21/2.8. The mustache or gull-wing distortion is inherent to the lens. However, it is easily fixed. One mouse click in PT Lens or Bibble and it is gone. And ... for video applications I have never seen the distortion.

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    Re: 1Ds MKIII + Zeiss ZE 21mm Distagon

    This one is from the 1ds III, ISO 800. Overall scene, center, bottom left at f/2.8.

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    Zeiss ZE is great... it has no aperture ring and it has electronics that allows you to control the aperture.

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    Re: 1Ds MKIII + Zeiss ZE 21mm Distagon

    I have both the new T/S lenses and the older C/Y Distagon 21mm. The new Canon's are right up there in image quality and have virtually no distortion to speak of. It looks like from the image posted above that the new Distagon, even though redesigned, still has the very hard to control mustache distortion. I wonder how effective the new lens distortion tool in CS5 will be in counteracting this, because the trial version of PT lens I used, literally sucked. It made it better in some ways and worse in others.

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    Re: 1Ds MKIII + Zeiss ZE 21mm Distagon

    The corner crops are excellent. I hope you may post the same taken with the Canon S+T lens too.
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    Re: 1Ds MKIII + Zeiss ZE 21mm Distagon

    Quote Originally Posted by ftbt View Post
    I have a C/Y 21/2.8. The mustache or gull-wing distortion is inherent to the lens. However, it is easily fixed. One mouse click in PT Lens or Bibble and it is gone. And ... for video applications I have never seen the distortion.
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