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    Re: Alpha 12 TC images

    The fotoman stuff looks good, and I have heard that it is quality material. The only concern I have just looking at it is that the Dmax is not for sale yet, and none of the cameras seem to support anything wider than 35mm. Is that really a big enough jump to justify going to a separate camera? Especially if you don't have an overriding need for shifts. Personally, my widest lens is a 40mm (which is also the current widest for the Hy6), so I don't think I would be interested in a technical camera unless it could mount a 24mm or 28mm...especially since the other digital systems both have 28mm lenses that mount on the SLR's...
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    Re: Alpha 12 TC images

    The Dmax takes a Mamiya 645 mount

    http://www.fotomancamera.com/product_list.asp?id=344. Not sure it will work but has promise
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    Yes 35mm lens seems to be the limit.
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    I just wrote him to ask about it, so we'll see if that is just the info he had for film...
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    Thanks Stuart . I just e-mailed them about that auxiliary rangefinder for focusing. I can bolt that on the side of the Alpa.
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    Re: Alpha 12 TC images

    The Dmax looks like a full technical camera though and it is priced to match, it's certainly not a Alpa TC competitor.
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    Actually The Alpa TC is cheaper for the frame
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    Re: Alpha 12 TC images

    It's a different camera, far more like a Cambo, the Fotoman 69 seems to be the equivelent of the TC but is missing a plate to fit a MFDB. Now if someone is feeling handy...
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    Re: Alpha 12 TC images

    the problem with the wider angles is that the shorter distance from the lensboard to the sensor may mean that the barrel, etc. become buried in the body and harder to access for focus

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    How does the Alpa do it?
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    Ben on my 47mm the lens board comes out about a half inch, so for the wider lenses it is either flush or recessed for the very wides. Take a look at the Alpa site and you can see how the lens mount board changes with focal length.

    Here check this page out and you can see some of those mount changes

    http://www.alpa.ch/index.php?path=pr...ed_alpa_lenses
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    Just ordered that Fotoman Rangefinder for focusing. Hook it up to the side of my Alpa or just use in my hand
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    It's also user configurable which should be fun!

    I'm sure Fotoman could make a recessed board to order, might be worth asking them for the 69 and get someone to configure an MFDB mount. 28mm is very wide on those backs anyway isn't it? Would the lack of a 28mm put off a lot of people?
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    Re: Alpha 12 TC images

    re Fotoman it looks like it's got a universal "mini Graflok" film holder mount and it take Linhof film holders, right?

    Well, Linhof make a universal adapters for their 69 cameras, look at page 17 in this catalogue, so unless Fotoman modify the film holder to a custom mount, there should be a way to mount a DB on it, physically....
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    Ben -- yes, 28 is very wide, but I think for a number of people, the only reason they use these cameras is because they provide very wide angle lenses that the manufacturer doesn't offer. Some of them provide shift and tilt, but not cameras like the Alpa TC. For example, the Hy6's current widest lens is 40mm, with a 35mm coming out at some point after photokina. Mamiya and Hasselblad H have 28mm's, but the 28mm H only works on the H3D. Hasselblad V taps out at 38mm (40 for the SLR's), and Contax had a 35mm. So if you are using Rollei, Hasselblad V or Contax, your only choice for super wides is to get a technical camera like one of these. The Hasselblad V and Rollei systems did not really design lenses wider than 38-40mm because they were built around 6x6 full frame film -- 40mm is still very wide on 6x6. When you start talking about 48x36, then it starts looking more like a moderate wide angle. The 645 makers had an advantage, in that they had already has wider lenses since they had been designing for approximately 645 sized film all along.

    The other buying segment would be architecture photographers, and they are more concerned with rise and fall, and sometimes tilts, shifts and swings. These people are less concerned with the super super wide angles, but more with being able to move the front standard around and still use a digital back. So for those people, the fotoman or the other bigger offerings like the larger Alpas, Horseman SWD, Cambo, Arca Swiss and Sinar cameras are more persuasive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mancuso View Post
    Just ordered that Fotoman Rangefinder for focusing. Hook it up to the side of my Alpa or just use in my hand

    Guy, I just ordered 24 mm Apo-Digitar just to get it out of my system I don't tink I made a mistake... it's a great lens, so we'll see!!!

    Now I just have to see how to keep P30+ and P45+/A75s IF I CAN.... only what bothers me with Aptus/Sinar is that there is no Long Exposure!!!


    Did you get your Fotoman Rangefinder for focusing? If you did, could you post some images and your opinion pls.... I think you should write full review for GetDPI forum perhaps for LL too on Alpa TC + Fotoman Rangefinder/etc. because I read everything about Alpa available on net and I think you are the first one to put it together and people will enjoy it

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    Re: Alpha 12 TC images

    Yair - thanks for the link to the catalogue.

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    Natasa i did get the rangefinder and it is really nice.I think just holding it is the way to go. I'm in San Diego on vacation with the family and when I get home next week i will do exactly that a nice photo review of my setup. Okay you can be jealous . I am on my balcony overlooking the ocean and beach as I type this. Maybe in my next life I could actually have this kind of life all year . For now I will take a nice 5 days. LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mancuso View Post
    Natasa i did get the rangefinder and it is really nice.I think just holding it is the way to go. I'm in San Diego on vacation with the family and when I get home next week i will do exactly that a nice photo review of my setup. Okay you can be jealous . I am on my balcony overlooking the ocean and beach as I type this. Maybe in my next life I could actually have this kind of life all year . For now I will take a nice 5 days. LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mancuso View Post
    Natasa i did get the rangefinder and it is really nice.I think just holding it is the way to go.

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    Guy, could you post few images/ are you pleased?

    I'd like to order it right away if I like it...

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    So far I am very pleased with it . Let me take a shot or two for you.
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    Guy, much appreciated!!!

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    Re: Alpha 12 TC images

    There's a photo of the Fotoman RF here: http://www.badgergraphic.com/store/c..._detail&p=2120

    I bought one too, largely because my old Leica RF showed distance in meters and I thought I'd prefer one in feet. Upon comparing them, I think that the Leica version is a little better to use. Of course, you'd have to locate a used one as they're not made anymore.

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    Thanks Steve I just been tasked to honey dues. Man i hate Saturday's
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mancuso View Post
    Thanks Steve I just been tasked to honey dues. Man i hate Saturday's
    You and me both Guy. A whole vacation week of Honey-Dos ... and waiting for workmen with my checkbook in hand

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    I would rather write the check. LOL

    Here is a image from Steve that he wanted to post. Comes with a little case and BTW this thing is about as big as my pinky finger
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    Thanks to Stephen and Guy

    Is there a way to mount it on ALPA, and Guy does it make sense?

    How accurate is it?

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    Actually it was kind of odd mounting it to the Alpa on the side since you really have no place on the top deck with a finder unless you rotate them out. Clunky is what i would say. I just put it in my pocket and just use with one hand pretty easily. Yes it is pretty accurate but I need to test that more also. There is a pouch with a belt clip that comes with it and kind of nice way to carry it around.
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    Guy, Natasa and others,
    If you are looking to mount a couple of things atop the Alpa, this may be an inexpensive and flexible solution worth considering. Does not look like it would take up too much space, nor destroy the design lines for the camera. Worth considering.

    http://www.broadcastrepair.com/sales...RY-HOTSHOE-EXT

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    Re: Alpha 12 TC images

    I'm sure Guy will provide more complete data, but at ten feet my Fotoman RF is exactly on the mark.

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    Mine at 10 ft is also on the mark. Interesting attachment LJ
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    Wow look at this cool idea from Alpa no less. This maybe the ticket

    http://www.alpa.ch/index.php?path=pr...detailpage=239
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    Ouch 161 dollars but I am thinking of getting it anyway. BTW great source of Alpa gear that I bought my TC from and such is http://www.fotocare.com/. Jeff is a really nice guy there. Or badger graphics
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mancuso View Post
    Wow look at this cool idea from Alpa no less. This maybe the ticket

    http://www.alpa.ch/index.php?path=pr...detailpage=239

    Was I wrong about the speed in my previous post

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    Guy & Natasha<
    I can confirm, the ALPA Decentered Accessory Adapter (No. 400060025 ) is the perfect solution for mounting the Fotoman Auxilary Rangefinder to ALPA 12 TC. It takes a bit to get used to it on the side of camera, but it becomes quite handy to always have it on-camera.

    With the Fotoman Aux Rangefinder attached to the left-hand side of the camera, the focus distance dial is easily visible, without having to fully take your eye away from the dedicated ALPA viewfinder. This makes confirming focus distance from the rangefinder to the lens fairly quick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mancuso View Post
    Wow look at this cool idea from Alpa no less. This maybe the ticket

    http://www.alpa.ch/index.php?path=pr...detailpage=239
    Last edited by JEM_DTG; 23rd August 2008 at 18:33.

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    Re: Alpha 12 TC images

    I am dismayed to see Alpa users wanting rangefinders and meters and all the other paraphernalia which already exist on your other cameras - the Alpa is an opportunity to shoot with your eye and heart - leave your autopilot at home if you want to get the biggest buzz out of these machines. Doesnt take rocket science to figure out light/aprture and distance with a 35/or 24. SHAME !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeterA View Post
    I am dismayed to see Alpa users wanting rangefinders and meters and all the other paraphernalia which already exist on your other cameras - the Alpa is an opportunity to shoot with your eye and heart - leave your autopilot at home if you want to get the biggest buzz out of these machines. Doesnt take rocket science to figure out light/aprture and distance with a 35/or 24. SHAME !!
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    Actually, I will disagree with that. What's the point of paying a small fortune for an absurdly precise and highly performing piece of equipment if you are going to shoot it carelessly. If you are going to play fast and loose, why not just use regular camera and lens? Or better yet, a Holga.
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    Re: Alpha 12 TC images

    Stuart - the answer to question is quite simple - because the lens dictates certain apertures and your digi back ISO determines the rest.

    eg With a Schneider 35 and a digi back at ISO 50-100 - you will be shooting at apertures between F8-16. ( really f8 -F11 is teh sweet spot ) This leaves speed as the next variable - here in morning or afternoon light you will be shooting between 15th and 125th of a second - want to shoot in midday sun ? - well thats means you are shooting from 1/30th to 1/250th - depending. Now we get to focusing. Well you are using a 35mm LF circle wide. You get hyperfocal 1 metre to infinity at F11 on a use-able hand-holdable speed. You want a really precise focus well check out ANY LF image circle lens and you will see a NOT very precise focusing ring in terms of engraved measurements - and it doesnt take much to get used to 'fast and loose' shooting when you have that kind of DOF and 40 megapixels of resolution.

    want to use a ground glass and get perfect focusing ( on what?) - well that isnt the type of shooting I have used my Alpa's for and would never- and there are MUCH better cameras around for that purpose.

    Still if people want to hang a bunch of after market gizmos on their Alpa - hey no skin off my nose - but similarly - please I just cant help chuckling -

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    Re: Alpha 12 TC images

    Peter I know it sounds a little strange to have a focusing aid on these but i do envision sometimes when I am pretty close to something under the 10 ft mark that I need accurate it would be a handy tool to have.i also would like to try some more wide open shots for effect and there i want to be on the money. But your point is well taken for sure. it's the 10 percent of the time that i see myself using it. Also the 47mm is not as easy as the 24mm. i already blew a couple landscape shots with stuff close. This one for example I missed what i wanted in focus and i was close and stopped down pretty far
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    I see at Calumet and elsewhere that normal Schneider lenses go for much, much less than those sold by Alpa. It looks like the specially adapted lenses sold by Alpa are 2 - 2.5x the price of similar Schneider Digitars, for example, on the open market.

    Must one use one of the Alpa-native or Alpa-adapted Schneider or Rodenstock lenses sold by Alpa? Or can you use any equivalent Schneider or Rodenstock lens? Is there a lens adapter for lenses not sold by Alpa themselves? There seems to be some sort of lens adapter on the Alpa website, but it is unclear what/how it is used.

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    Re: Alpha 12 TC images

    Given the simplicity of the design of ALPA 12's, I'm sure it would be possible to have a mount made to allow the use of a non-ALPA lens. (I'm pretty sure ALPA offers to modify your "used" lenses.) The question is how much money would be saved by having someone create the adapter and focussing hardware required. I suspect that a one-off job wouldn't be cheap, and someone making adapters in bulk might draw an unfriendly response from ALPA.

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    Re: Alpha 12 TC images

    Guy - I am all in favour of whatever helps get the shot.

    Re the cost of Alpa lenses - I think the cost is in the actual mount rather than the lenses. HoweverI dont think it is a big market and hence dont expect to see competiton in alternative Alpa mounted lenes emerge.

    This is a big part of the reason I am waiting for the release of the Arca Swiss system ( with built in tilt) as a viable alternative. Mind you there are only two lenses I am interested in having for an Alpa or similar - the 24/35.

    It really is a eccentric portable light beautiful system - for wide shooting. Not perfect at anything with limitations in focusing especially - hence I limit interest to wides those beautiful wides from Schneider and Rodenstock.

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    Re: Alpha 12 TC images

    This has been an educational thread. Thank you all.

    One question: can I use a P30+ on a camera like the Alpa? or do I need to get a non-microlens back?

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    No since the Alpa TC does not do any shifting you can use it as well with the P30+. The neat thing about it it really is a cool little setup that you can put in a very small bag and run out the door and I even did some street work with it ala Leica M style. Focusing is the tough part
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    Re: Alpha 12 TC images

    I used to guess-focus with my SWC903 but that was film.

    So a 24mm on P30+ will give the 35mm equivalence of 19.2mm lens. Not bad

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    I use one of those little range finders from fotoman. Badger graphics has them.

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    Re: Alpha 12 TC images

    Quote Originally Posted by Chuck Jones View Post
    Guy, to answer your question from my own personal testing on that same 47XL you are using, f11 is about the limit. At f16 and beyond, things go to mush pretty dang quickly. On the other hand, they are excellent wide open also, with the peak on the 47mm being at f5.6 in my own tests.
    This is close to my experience with a P45 using Digitar 35mm and Rodenstock digital 55mm. F8 is the best, F11 is very good, but f16 is starting to head south. Note that this is more evident if you are planning on a final native image size print (for me 360ppi gives 15 x 20) rather than a small add, and if you are using a back with the 6 micron sensor rather than a 9 micron sensor the difference between 'sharp' and 'unsharp' is more noticed.

    Sounds to silly, but level the camera and shoot through the f-stops on a wide gravel surface, preferably facing up slope. Lot's of little detail from one side of the frame to the other and it really gives you a very graphic indication of where your focus is and what the characteristics are from edge to edge as you stop down (and how much depth of field each gives). This exercise is also helpful if you can shift your back right and left because it gives an indication of just how far you can shift and get an acceptable sharpness.

    YMMV, but this has worked well for me in getting my head around the issue.

    Mark

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    Re: Alpa 12 TC images

    Does anyone know if a Mamiya ZD back would work on an Alpa TC? On the Alpa website the Mamiya adaptor plates are listed as being for use with Phase One or Leaf backs but no mention is made of Mamiya backs.

    Thanks in advance.

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    Re: Alpa 12 TC images

    I don't believe the ZD back is usable with a technical camera. The Leaf and Phase One backs use the PC Sync from the shutter to trigger the back. I don't recall the ZD having a remote PC sync which would be the deal killer.

    I have both the Leaf and Phase One backs - the Leaf has a view camera mode which allows triggering the back via the sync port (vs camera electronics), and in the case of the P40+ you have the option of either having the back be woken up before sync or you can set the latency mode to short and have the back 'active' all the time. Again, I don't recall seeing any of these options with the ZD.

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