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Fuji's M mount adapter - cool specs framelines!

Braeside

New member
My Fuji M adaptor arrived.


Well, where to start?

The bright lines in the OVF aren't bright - they don't get brighter in brighter light.

The Mount Adaptor Settings for the lenses (Distortion correction, Color Shading Correction and Peripheral Illumination Correction), cannot be previewed live while you adjust them.

You have to switch to MF to get the Magnify all to work.

Of course as we knew, you still have the poor refresh rate of the EVF and the fixed X10 magnify which is hopeless with many focal lengths. No focus peaking of any type.

It still uses 1/F for the Auto ISO slowest shutter speed. I guess you can fool it by using a false focal length in one of the two user configurable Lens focal length settings.

They do supply a plastic gauge to check if the rear element of a lens will protude too much or if it's diameter is too large to fit through the small hole at the rear of the adaptor.

It really isn't a pro solution for RF lenses on the X-Pro 1 camera. I'm sorry to say I will be sticking to my Ricoh GXR A12 Mount for my M lenses.

It does work and allow you to use your M lenses, but it is just the annoyance of the implementation which gets to me. I tried an LTM CV15, Zeiss 18mm Distagon, Zeiss 25 Biogon, Leica Elmarit 28/2.8, CV 75/2.5 LTM and they all worked, but I can't really see me using them much on the camera.

I see a small amount of corner smearing on wide angle (just viewed at max magnification the camera LCD so far). I suspect that it isn't as good in the corners as the GXR A12 mount, but will test that later once the rain goes off. Perfectly acceptable for most things. But given that the GXR doesn't smear chroma and has sharp corners on all of my M lenses...

I have no idea how Fuji expect me to adjust the lens corrections other than by trial and error - take a shot, review, adjust a setting, rinse and repeat. Epic fail.

I hope that Fuji come out with a fast 35mm equivalent AF lens next year as that is what I currently miss. At a push I could use the Zeiss 25mm Biogon, but it isn't such a nice experience on the X-Pro 1.

Fortunately I have the GXR for my M lenses, so I'll use that and keep the X-Pro 1 for its trio of fine AF lenses.
 
It still uses 1/F for the Auto ISO slowest shutter speed. I guess you can fool it by using a false focal length in one of the two user configurable Lens focal length settings.
It seems to me that if yo you try to fool it the situation is even worst: 1/30 s for any focal length.
It is not the best camera to be used with legacy lenses IMHO: poor MF implementation (no focus peaking , fixed enlargement, no image stabilization, slow refresh rate) and absence of micro lenses are deal breakers in this regard.
Very interesting and good performer (with some flaws) with native lenses.
 

scho

Well-known member
My Fuji M adaptor arrived.


Well, where to start?

The bright lines in the OVF aren't bright - they don't get brighter in brighter light.

The Mount Adaptor Settings for the lenses (Distortion correction, Color Shading Correction and Peripheral Illumination Correction), cannot be previewed live while you adjust them.

You have to switch to MF to get the Magnify all to work.

Of course as we knew, you still have the poor refresh rate of the EVF and the fixed X10 magnify which is hopeless with many focal lengths. No focus peaking of any type.

It still uses 1/F for the Auto ISO slowest shutter speed. I guess you can fool it by using a false focal length in one of the two user configurable Lens focal length settings.

They do supply a plastic gauge to check if the rear element of a lens will protude too much or if it's diameter is too large to fit through the small hole at the rear of the adaptor.

It really isn't a pro solution for RF lenses on the X-Pro 1 camera. I'm sorry to say I will be sticking to my Ricoh GXR A12 Mount for my M lenses.

It does work and allow you to use your M lenses, but it is just the annoyance of the implementation which gets to me. I tried an LTM CV15, Zeiss 18mm Distagon, Zeiss 25 Biogon, Leica Elmarit 28/2.8, CV 75/2.5 LTM and they all worked, but I can't really see me using them much on the camera.

I see a small amount of corner smearing on wide angle (just viewed at max magnification the camera LCD so far). I suspect that it isn't as good in the corners as the GXR A12 mount, but will test that later once the rain goes off. Perfectly acceptable for most things. But given that the GXR doesn't smear chroma and has sharp corners on all of my M lenses...

I have no idea how Fuji expect me to adjust the lens corrections other than by trial and error - take a shot, review, adjust a setting, rinse and repeat. Epic fail.

I hope that Fuji come out with a fast 35mm equivalent AF lens next year as that is what I currently miss. At a push I could use the Zeiss 25mm Biogon, but it isn't such a nice experience on the X-Pro 1.

Fortunately I have the GXR for my M lenses, so I'll use that and keep the X-Pro 1 for its trio of fine AF lenses.
Thanks for your review David. I guess I'm not too surprised that this approach to MF and lens correction was doomed to failure. Ricoh has a similar approach for lens correction, but at least they have a much better EVF (although, not built in) and good focus peaking options. Unfortunately, I sold my GXR so I'll just continue using the NEX7 for most of my MF needs now.
 
Thanks for your review David. I guess I'm not too surprised that this approach to MF and lens correction was doomed to failure. Ricoh has a similar approach for lens correction, but at least they have a much better EVF (although, not built in) and good focus peaking options. Unfortunately, I sold my GXR so I'll just continue using the NEX7 for most of my MF needs now.
Carl, in my view the Ricoh approach is by far better in this regard: wide, almost unrestricted choice on lenses, the peripheral luminance correction goes into the raw file, you can also choose the enlargement ratio for each specific lens, much better refresh rate not to speak about the fact the corner to corner performances of almost any wide angle lens are on a different league.
 

Braeside

New member
Hi Carl and Ario, suffice to say I am returning the adaptor for the Fuji and will stick with the GXR for M mount. Still love the Fuji and its own lenses though.
 

scho

Well-known member
Hi Carl and Ario, suffice to say I am returning the adaptor for the Fuji and will stick with the GXR for M mount. Still love the Fuji and its own lenses though.
David, Did you check to see if any of the lens corrections are recorded in raw or only jpeg?
 

Braeside

New member
Sorry Carl I didn't. I didn't even try the corrections because I couldn't see them live on the camera. It was all just too painful and silly for words.
 

GrahamWelland

Subscriber & Workshop Member
Seems like these are beginning to hit the stores in the US. My dealer just got a delivery this week - I pick mine up on Friday :D
 

Paratom

Well-known member
My Fuji M adaptor arrived.


Well, where to start?

The bright lines in the OVF aren't bright - they don't get brighter in brighter light.

The Mount Adaptor Settings for the lenses (Distortion correction, Color Shading Correction and Peripheral Illumination Correction), cannot be previewed live while you adjust them.

You have to switch to MF to get the Magnify all to work.

Of course as we knew, you still have the poor refresh rate of the EVF and the fixed X10 magnify which is hopeless with many focal lengths. No focus peaking of any type.

It still uses 1/F for the Auto ISO slowest shutter speed. I guess you can fool it by using a false focal length in one of the two user configurable Lens focal length settings.

They do supply a plastic gauge to check if the rear element of a lens will protude too much or if it's diameter is too large to fit through the small hole at the rear of the adaptor.

It really isn't a pro solution for RF lenses on the X-Pro 1 camera. I'm sorry to say I will be sticking to my Ricoh GXR A12 Mount for my M lenses.

It does work and allow you to use your M lenses, but it is just the annoyance of the implementation which gets to me. I tried an LTM CV15, Zeiss 18mm Distagon, Zeiss 25 Biogon, Leica Elmarit 28/2.8, CV 75/2.5 LTM and they all worked, but I can't really see me using them much on the camera.

I see a small amount of corner smearing on wide angle (just viewed at max magnification the camera LCD so far). I suspect that it isn't as good in the corners as the GXR A12 mount, but will test that later once the rain goes off. Perfectly acceptable for most things. But given that the GXR doesn't smear chroma and has sharp corners on all of my M lenses...

I have no idea how Fuji expect me to adjust the lens corrections other than by trial and error - take a shot, review, adjust a setting, rinse and repeat. Epic fail.

I hope that Fuji come out with a fast 35mm equivalent AF lens next year as that is what I currently miss. At a push I could use the Zeiss 25mm Biogon, but it isn't such a nice experience on the X-Pro 1.

Fortunately I have the GXR for my M lenses, so I'll use that and keep the X-Pro 1 for its trio of fine AF lenses.
Reading your review I think for me the only thing that makes sense is using fuji lenses on the x pro 1 -except maybe occasional use of a special lens.
 
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