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    New Fuji X-E1 for Photokina?

    Details of the new kid on the Fuji X series block leaked together with further details of the XF 18-55mm zoom here:

    http://photorumors.com/2012/08/24/th...er/#more-29374

    The zoom has lost the aperture ring and it looks as if it will have an aperture priority setting instead using the body to control actual aperture setting. It is likely to be the kit lens with the new E1.

    The E1 looks as if it has lost it's OVF but has a dedicated EVF instead.
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    Re: New Fuji X-E1 for Photokina?

    The price and a decent EVF- two factors that will get my attention.

    Still, it will be a very tough decision against the NEX-6 that has everything and more.

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    Re: New Fuji X-E1 for Photokina?

    Quote Originally Posted by Vivek View Post
    The price and a decent EVF- two factors that will get my attention.

    Still, it will be a very tough decision against the NEX-6 that has everything and more.
    Good point. For me though, the Fuji selection of lenses is superior, and I much prefer the Fuji interface.
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    [QUOTE=Vivek;445125]The price and a decent EVF- two factors that will get my attention.

    Still, it will be a very tough decision against the NEX-6 that has everything and more.[/

    Interesting, as long as you don't want more than one decent native lens. I use a NEX-5N and this Fuji is of high interest to me. Good, and improving lens portfolio. Superb IQ if its anything like an X100, which is my main carry. Control set aimed at a photographer. Excellent metering. Excellent white balance. Sorry, but spend a little time looking at the images posted on the web and compare the end product. You don't need print to see the difference.

    Oh, and usable jpegs. Not blobs of black for shadows.

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    Re: New Fuji X-E1 for Photokina?

    Rayto: I am well aware of the images posted from XPro1.

    If a tool isn't convenient- tunnel vision, poor EVF, no tilt/swivel LCD- an opportunity to get an image is lost. That is more important to me than spectacular colors and such. Your preferences/needs may be different.


    FWIW, the X100 is not a system camera. I have had my share of P&S compact cams (film and dgital). No thanks.

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    Re: New Fuji X-E1 for Photokina?

    Never could get the look of the X-pro1 with the slopey side, but the E1 looks like a thing of beauty and wonder.
    all the best

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    Re: New Fuji X-E1 for Photokina?

    The hotshoe adds to the looks but I have not heard any XPRO1 users mounting a flash on their camera.

    Perhaps, it is an integral part of the retro looks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vivek View Post
    The hotshoe adds to the looks but I have not heard any XPRO1 users mounting a flash on their camera.

    Perhaps, it is an integral part of the retro looks.
    I have used a flash several times.

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    Re: New Fuji X-E1 for Photokina?

    Finally, there is one flash user!

    Tim, Do you use any of Fuji's TTL flashes? I did ask here earlier but I do not recall anyone saying they did (I can't find that thread either).

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    Re: New Fuji X-E1 for Photokina?

    Quote Originally Posted by Vivek View Post
    Finally, there is one flash user!

    Tim, Do you use any of Fuji's TTL flashes? I did ask here earlier but I do not recall anyone saying they did (I can't find that thread either).
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    I have the Fujifilm EF20 and find it a useful flash for situations where you don't need a hefty output. It is very small and has a tilt head. The battery life is not real good however so bring plenty.

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    Re: New Fuji X-E1 for Photokina?

    Woody,

    Thanks for your reply!

    Fuji also sell a cheaper, more powerful and versatile flash, albeit quite big.

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    Re: New Fuji X-E1 for Photokina?

    I too use a flash on my XPro1, the EF40, it works really well but admit I rarely use it, the lenses are generally fast with excellent high ISO performance. It is useful sometimes for a bit of quick fill-in when needed. By the way the Fuji X forum, (see XPRO1 discussions) has numerous posts on using flash with this camera!)
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    Re: New Fuji X-E1 for Photokina?

    The good news is that along with the X-E1 we will be getting the same improvements in low light AF, MF, 3X MF zoom, SD card write speed, and auto ISO 6400 in Version 2 of the firmware for the X-Pro 1 due 18th of this month.

    I'm not personally interested in the X-E1, as I love the OVF in the X-Pro 1 and find the present EVF acceptable, though would love a better one like the X-E1. What I am interested in is the 18-55mm OIS 2.8-4 zoom lens, would make an ideal walk about lens for the X-Pro 1, something I currently miss with it.
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    Re: New Fuji X-E1 for Photokina?

    Quote Originally Posted by Vivek View Post
    Finally, there is one flash user!

    Tim, Do you use any of Fuji's TTL flashes? I did ask here earlier but I do not recall anyone saying they did (I can't find that thread either).
    I use flash with the X-Pro1 but purely strobist manual. TTL etc with dedicated flashes gets old after a while ... Dedicated expensive flashes are just an unnecessary extravagance especially if you use several camera systems.

    As regards X-E1 I might get one as a 2nd body / kit lens to complement my X-Pro1 and lenses.
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    Re: New Fuji X-E1 for Photokina?

    Quote Originally Posted by GrahamWelland View Post
    I use flash with the X-Pro1 but purely strobist manual. TTL etc with dedicated flashes gets old after a while ... Dedicated expensive flashes are just an unnecessary extravagance especially if you use several camera systems.
    I agree it isn't convenient nor healthy when using several systems or switch from one to the other.

    The XE-1 interests me. Both my queries (EVF and the price tag) are settled.

    If there comes a Fuji to NEX adapter (to use manual lenses), it would be swell.

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    Re: New Fuji X-E1 for Photokina?

    Here it is on DPreview

    Just Posted: Fujifilm X-E1 hands-on preview: Digital Photography Review

    looks pretty good!

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    Re: New Fuji X-E1 for Photokina?

    Yes,
    Looks excellent. I've pre-ordered the silver kit version. Give a substantial discount over the lens only and makes a second body relatively inexpensive.

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    Re: New Fuji X-E1 for Photokina?

    Seriously considering dropping the NEX and Micro 4/3 cameras and moving to the Fuji X system. It seems like they are able to do in less than a year what Sony hasn't done in nearly 3 years with the NEX system - provide a good base of native lenses. They both have M-mount adapters as well. Gonna wait until after Photokina though to see what Leica comes up with too.
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    I plan to get the X-E1 as a second body.
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    Re: New Fuji X-E1 for Photokina?

    Having loved the X100 for all it's faults after playing with one for a few hours, I'd really really love to buy this one. If it wasn't for the fact that I'm about to go into debt for a while for a 5D3 I don't want to buy but have to as one of my 5Dc's has just died of 7 years of serious pro use.
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    Re: New Fuji X-E1 for Photokina?

    Quote Originally Posted by HiredArm View Post
    Seriously considering dropping the NEX and Micro 4/3 cameras and moving to the Fuji X system. It seems like they are able to do in less than a year what Sony hasn't done in nearly 3 years with the NEX system - provide a good base of native lenses. They both have M-mount adapters as well. Gonna wait until after Photokina though to see what Leica comes up with too.
    Same here, although only dropping the m43 as I do no longer own the NEX. Plus for m43 it took over 3 years to still have no RF like looking model with built in EVF - neither Pana nor Oly! Seems that Fuji is really making lot of pressure to gain market share, which is great for this system.

    And if it comes to sensor development, I am pretty sure we will sooner see a 24MP high ISO capable XTRANS sensor from Fuji than a similar sensor from any m43.

    Will also wait till after PK2012.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ptomsu View Post
    Same here, although only dropping the m43 as I do no longer own the NEX. Plus for m43 it took over 3 years to still have no RF like looking model with built in EVF - neither Pana nor Oly! Seems that Fuji is really making lot of pressure to gain market share, which is great for this system.

    And if it comes to sensor development, I am pretty sure we will sooner see a 24MP high ISO capable XTRANS sensor from Fuji than a similar sensor from any m43.

    Will also wait till after PK2012.
    Well I'm holding onto my G1 probably. Worst case it can be IR converted. I've always liked the camera for the way it functioned. It was a huge reason I took to the A77 (and other SLT's for that matter.) It's like a large weather resistant G1. I got rid of my other Micro 4/3 bodies (GF1/G2) once I bought my first M9. I'm not so much looking solely at buying a camera with the aesthetics of a rangefinder as I own a rangefinder. Don't get me wrong. I like the body to look nice but not at the expense of function. I'd ideally like a smallish camera that can take M lenses but also have good quality native lenses with autofocus for times I don't want to lug around my A77.

    I held on to the NEX for the low light features but looking through the Fuji threads I don't think that I would be missing anything in image quality and I will still be able to adapt M-mount lenses. The NEX is a great "digital back" for better lenses but there are more bodies than lenses. That should not be the case.

    I also like the 16MP size. It's about ideal for APS-C sensors. I rarely have a need for 24MP. The 18.5 of the M9 is more than enough for me honestly. If Sony would've made the A5x in a weather resistant body or if Pentax had a larger dealer network I probable would've gone that route instead of the A77.
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    Re: New Fuji X-E1 for Photokina?

    I cracked and pre-ordered a black X-E1 kit and 14mm today. No idea about delivery timescales but Fuji move faster than Leica so hopefully it won't be too long.
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    Re: New Fuji X-E1 for Photokina?

    I downloaded some sample images from the Fuji press site. Here they are for your enjoyment:


    DSCF8543 by Carlos Echenique, on Flickr


    DSCF9994 by Carlos Echenique, on Flickr


    DSCF2088 by Carlos Echenique, on Flickr


    DSCF2086 by Carlos Echenique, on Flickr


    DSCF2085 by Carlos Echenique, on Flickr


    DSCF2084 by Carlos Echenique, on Flickr


    DSCF2081 by Carlos Echenique, on Flickr


    DSCF2080 by Carlos Echenique, on Flickr


    DSCF2078 by Carlos Echenique, on Flickr


    DSCF2079 by Carlos Echenique, on Flickr


    DSCF2076 by Carlos Echenique, on Flickr


    DSCF2075 by Carlos Echenique, on Flickr

    I like the bokeh shots and the light/shadow image seem to have excellent DR characteristics.

    [UPDATE] I have placed myself on Monza's pre-order list as well.
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    Re: New Fuji X-E1 for Photokina?

    It's not a legitimate camera until there's been at least one cat portrait - glad we got that out of the way.
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    >It's not a legitimate camera until there's been at least one cat portrait

    Nice cat == nice camera
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    Quote Originally Posted by corposant View Post
    It's not a legitimate camera until there's been at least one cat portrait - glad we got that out of the way.
    She looks like my cat. Egyptian Mau.
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    Re: New Fuji X-E1 for Photokina?

    Quote Originally Posted by etrigan63 View Post

    I like the bokeh shots and the light/shadow image seem to have excellent DR characteristics.
    If you see images from that area (any cam) they are quite similar. It is the light. At least, I can not draw any conclusions on the DR based on these images.
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    Re: New Fuji X-E1 for Photokina?

    Found this buy tidbit that not sure was brought up . Looks like a nice cam to have.


    Another*interesting*development is that if you buy the X-E1 kit (with the 18-55 lens), you will save $300 compared to if you buy camera and the lens separately*(see all pre-order options here). Those are exactly the same savings as the recently announced combo offer on the X-Pro1 + lens purchases.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GrahamWelland View Post
    I cracked and pre-ordered a black X-E1 kit and 14mm today. No idea about delivery timescales but Fuji move faster than Leica so hopefully it won't be too long.

    Color me surprised. I want full reports. Thinking about one myself.lol
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    Re: New Fuji X-E1 for Photokina?

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mancuso View Post
    Found this buy tidbit that not sure was brought up . Looks like a nice cam to have.


    Another*interesting*development is that if you buy the X-E1 kit (with the 18-55 lens), you will save $300 compared to if you buy camera and the lens separately*(see all pre-order options here). Those are exactly the same savings as the recently announced combo offer on the X-Pro1 + lens purchases.
    Guy do you have a link for the pre-order options? You indicated going somewhere but no link was provided.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vivek View Post
    If you see images from that area (any cam) they are quite similar. It is the light. At least, I can not draw any conclusions on the DR based on these images.
    On the basis of what has been announced the file should be the same as the one from the X1-Pro, same pro's and same con's (raw conversion).

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    Quote Originally Posted by etrigan63 View Post
    Guy do you have a link for the pre-order options? You indicated going somewhere but no link was provided.
    Monza is taking orders and this post has the links.

    Fuji X-E1 and new lenses officially announced! | Fuji Rumors

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    The big guns too Adorama, B&H and such also. Robert maybe best sometimes as the smaller shops sometimes get these pre-orders faster.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vivek View Post
    The hotshoe adds to the looks but I have not heard any XPRO1 users mounting a flash on their camera.

    Perhaps, it is an integral part of the retro looks.
    Quote Originally Posted by TimWright View Post
    I have used a flash several times.
    I have as well, and have used the camera in the studio with big strobes with excellent results. Getting the camera to fire my pocket wizards, and the Elinchrom Skyport was a trick, however. I couldn't use the regular menu to tell the camera to fire flash, but when I did so via the Quick menu (which is actually faster to do), it worked great.
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    Re: New Fuji X-E1 for Photokina?

    Here's a nice look at the new X-E1:

    Fuji X-E1 Hands-On Preview - YouTube

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    Re: New Fuji X-E1 for Photokina?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ario Arioldi View Post
    On the basis of what has been announced the file should be the same as the one from the X1-Pro, same pro's and same con's (raw conversion).
    Looks like it.

    Olympus/Panasonic missed the boat in making something like this.

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    Re: New Fuji X-E1 for Photokina?

    Quote Originally Posted by Terry View Post
    Yes,
    Looks excellent. I've pre-ordered the silver kit version. Give a substantial discount over the lens only and makes a second body relatively inexpensive.
    Hi, Terry... good to see you back and posting. I'm looking forward to the new firmware update for the x-Pro1... love using that camera.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Radcliffe View Post
    Hi, Terry... good to see you back and posting. I'm looking forward to the new firmware update for the x-Pro1... love using that camera.
    Thanks Jim,
    Yeah that firmware update is going to be really interesting. I want the zoom lens and the kit price certainly makes that second body pretty irresistible. A lot of camera for that price.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mancuso View Post
    The big guns too Adorama, B&H and such also. Robert maybe best sometimes as the smaller shops sometimes get these pre-orders faster.
    My local dealer ProPhoto Supply in Portland is awesome. I pre-ordered my kit and 14mm yesterday. They've always delivered on this gear and all my Nikon stuff also.
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    Re: New Fuji X-E1 for Photokina?

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    Looks excellent. I've pre-ordered the silver kit version. Give a substantial discount over the lens only and makes a second body relatively inexpensive.
    Me too.....I was going to go for a second X-P1 body.......glad I didn't.

    Like Graham, I ordered through my local store. He has been getting the Fuji stuff on his shelf very quickly.

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    I have emailed Monza about this one: it ticks all the boxes the X-Pro 1 didn't, for me:

    1. adjustable diopter (when I work with an assistant, we swap body/lens combinations while we work; she needs 0 adjustment, I need +2, roughly).

    2. smaller body than the X-Pro 1 (thinking three-lens carry on kit)

    3. faster focussing (I know this will come to big brother too, though)

    4. same sensor; same processing: it's so good, we all know, and JPEGS are really good

    Just what the doctor ordered. I wonder if monza can get a discount on the body plus the 35... that's all I want for now. Actually, thinking about the present three-lens kit (GX-1, RRS bottom bracket, 12/2, 20/1.7, 45/1.8) the Fuji three lens kit is even better for the way I shoot: 14/2.8 (21mm EFOV); 35/1.4, and 60/2.4. If the video is good, it could be bye-bye GX-1.

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    Re: New Fuji X-E1 for Photokina?

    Kit,
    I just got confirmation from RRS that a grip/plate kit for the X-E1. I myself am staring with the kit zoom and will add primes later. As for the grip plate situation, I am going for the RRS bottom plate plus grip which keeps the battery/card door accessible.
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    Re: New Fuji X-E1 for Photokina?

    Quote Originally Posted by jonoslack View Post
    Never could get the look of the X-pro1 with the slopey side, but the E1 looks like a thing of beauty and wonder.
    all the best
    Jono,

    you need one

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    Re: New Fuji X-E1 for Photokina?

    I think that one of the BIG additions for me is the optional remote interface which opens up the option for an intervalometer. I'm very happy with using a manual cable release on my X-Pro1 but I'd dearly love to be able to do multi-shot long exposures with it and the lack of intervalometer/remote release is a pain. The X-E1 looks like it'll solve that

    Btw, if you haven't seen it Fuji now have an X-E1 mini site:
    http://fujifilm-x.com/x-e1/en/

    Also lots of content on their main site too.
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    Re: New Fuji X-E1 for Photokina?

    Quote Originally Posted by GrahamWelland View Post
    I think that one of the BIG additions for me is the optional remote interface which opens up the option for an intervalometer. I'm very happy with using a manual cable release on my X-Pro1 but I'd dearly love to be able to do multi-shot long exposures with it and the lack of intervalometer/remote release is a pain. The X-E1 looks like it'll solve that
    Yes, I do love mechanical cable releases but damn the ability to use a good intervalometer/electronic remote will be excellent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terry View Post
    Yes, I do love mechanical cable releases but damn the ability to use a good intervalometer/electronic remote will be excellent.
    I will never understand why camera companies can't do this built-in, in digital cameras other than to take money from you. My little pentax Q has one, so does the Sigma DP2.

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    Re: New Fuji X-E1 for Photokina?

    Quote Originally Posted by raist3d View Post
    I will never understand why camera companies can't do this built-in, in digital cameras other than to take money from you. My little pentax Q has one, so does the Sigma DP2.

    - Ricardo
    I don't disagree. At least there are a lot of external options including iPhone and Android phone apps to accomplish this.

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    Re: New Fuji X-E1 for Photokina?

    I wonder if I can use TriggerTrap with just a mini-stereo cable instead of an adapter module (which takes forever to arrive)?
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    Re: New Fuji X-E1 for Photokina?

    Quote Originally Posted by etrigan63 View Post
    I wonder if I can use TriggerTrap with just a mini-stereo cable instead of an adapter module (which takes forever to arrive)?
    You want the triggertrap module to protect your iPhone. I don't know the cabling of the X-E1 but I'll go out on a limb and say that setting up a connector to trigger the cable release/half press would be trivial once you know the pin out. The remote release on pretty much all cameras is at best trivial.
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