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    Raw support coming to C1 Pro soon

    Sources say the next version of C1 will have support for the Fuji X Pro 1 and will include a (finally released by Canon) SDK that supports all the latest Canons in 10.7.5 and 10.8.x.

    Who is excited to process some Fuji X Pro 1 files with a fully featured raw processor, and have those files look great?

    Follow us on Facebook and you'll be the first to know when it's been released:
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    Re: Raw support coming to C1 Pro soon

    Quote Originally Posted by dougpeterson View Post
    Sources say the next version of C1 will have support for the Fuji X Pro 1 and will include a (finally released by Canon) SDK that supports all the latest Canons in 10.7.5 and 10.8.x.

    Who is excited to process some Fuji X Pro 1 files with a fully featured raw processor, and have those files look great?

    Follow us on Facebook and you'll be the first to know when it's been released:
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    The question, of course, is the quality of the conversions.

    Lightroom 4 and Photoshop 6 already convert the X1Pro files and frankly do a terrible job with regard to chroma smearing.

    As an owner of both Capture One pro 7.01 and the X1Pro, I can only hope

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    Re: Raw support coming to C1 Pro soon

    do you mean:
    version 7.x
    or a version 8.x

    and there are the Sigmas!
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    Re: Raw support coming to C1 Pro soon

    yes, that's correct LR4 and ACR do a terrible job with the color debayering

    That's why this will be so exciting for you :-).

    Can't say more.
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    Re: Raw support coming to C1 Pro soon

    Have you seen LLoyd Chamber's latest discussion on the XPRO-1/XE-1 files with the problems he is seeing and examples? A better algorithm is desperately needed.
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    Re: Raw support coming to C1 Pro soon

    Really looking forward to being able to handle all of my raw files in C1 only again. Regarding the Fuji X-Pro1 & X-E1 files, the jpgs are so good that more often than not I'm still using them vs the raws. Reds in particular are butchered by LR today with the raws.

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    Re: Raw support coming to C1 Pro soon

    But presumably you're only using jpg because LR conversion has been so poor.

    So if, in theory ;-), C1's conversion of this weird raw format is as good as you might expect from the image processing wizards at phase, then you'd return to shooting raw with all of its inherent flexibilty characteristics?
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    Re: Raw support coming to C1 Pro soon

    I shoot both raw & jpg. I figured someone will come up with a decent raw converter eventually so I hedge my bets
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    What a tease post! Until now, C1 never admitted they were even looking at it. When, when? Before Christmas? Is there a beta version we can try? The link to the facebook page doesn't work, not that I have a FB account :-)

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    Re: Raw support coming to C1 Pro soon

    Quote Originally Posted by Sapphie View Post
    What a tease post! Until now, C1 never admitted they were even looking at it. When, when? Before Christmas? Is there a beta version we can try? The link to the facebook page doesn't work, not that I have a FB account :-)

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    For the link you may try this:
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    Thanks Ario, it does sound promising. I can't remember when I last 'tried' C1 but I suspect it may have been a V7 trial, which probably means I will be unable to trial it when the update comes out. We'll see. It would be good to get 60 days testing out of it, as Adobe may have updated theirs by then and we'll be able to compare!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sapphie View Post
    Thanks Ario, it does sound promising. I can't remember when I last 'tried' C1 but I suspect it may have been a V7 trial, which probably means I will be unable to trial it when the update comes out. We'll see. It would be good to get 60 days testing out of it, as Adobe may have updated theirs by then and we'll be able to compare!

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    Lee,
    As far as I remember CO7 was released end of October, so in any case you shoud have some spare trial period to use for comparing.

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    Re: Raw support coming to C1 Pro soon

    Link corrected.
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    Re: Raw support coming to C1 Pro soon

    I have been very interested in the XPro 1 but the raw conversion issue has me concerned. If it is just a matter of time before Lightroom or C1 addresses the issue with good results I can wait it out. My bigger concern is whether on not Fuji has designed a sensor that is flawed in some way and that there will never be a satisfactory solution for raw conversion.

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    Personally, I'd change my camera before I changed my workflow and tools. Any number of cameras will do a great job, there are few that are so unique that I'm willing to take the effort to change my rendering efforts to accommodate their weirdness. :-)
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    Re: Raw support coming to C1 Pro soon

    If the new C1 version does not deliver the goods, I am selling my X-E1,
    what a shame....
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    I just wait for Aperture support, in the meantime I am getting gorgeous JPGs and on the infrequent occasions I need something altered radically I can use the Fuji raw conversion software or Sandy's PhotoRaw. Not interested in C1, I have it (can't recall the version), but fed up paying for updates for it.
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    Re: Raw support coming to C1 Pro soon

    Quote Originally Posted by Braeside View Post
    I just wait for Aperture support, in the meantime I am getting gorgeous JPGs and on the infrequent occasions I need something altered radically I can use the Fuji raw conversion software or Sandy's PhotoRaw. Not interested in C1, I have it (can't recall the version), but fed up paying for updates for it.
    ... there have been three upgrades in like 5 years, each time only $99.

    That's a pretty good upgrade policy IMO.

    I'd take a shot at the free trial when an update including your Fuji launches and ask yourself if it's worth $99 to upgrade.
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    When, when? We need to test it with our 'problematic' RAWs ...

    And if there was a huge discount for Fuji lovers too ...

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    I'll certainly try the free trial when it is available Doug. I'm just a bit eggy from constantly buying darkroom software that doesn't support the latest camera without a paid upgrade. (Not just C1). What I actually want is Aperture to support the camera though.
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    Re: Raw support coming to C1 Pro soon

    David, that is simply the new reality. New camera support in C1 (and most others) is provided for free with few exceptions until the next version is released, at which point all new support is only added to the next version.

    The "few exceptions" are times where supporting the new camera requires a lot of new work (e.g. tethered support for a new generation of cameras) and the previous version of C1 is coming to the end of it's cycle. The Fuji is one example of this since it's unique sensor requires a lot of extra work to support.

    You need to factor this into the cost of buying a new camera, just the same as buying a new camera may mean switching types of storage card (SD > CF or vice versa) or other nuances of the modern life.
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    Re: Raw support coming to C1 Pro soon

    Quote Originally Posted by Braeside View Post
    I'll certainly try the free trial when it is available Doug. I'm just a bit eggy from constantly buying darkroom software that doesn't support the latest camera without a paid upgrade. (Not just C1). What I actually want is Aperture to support the camera though.
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    I've also bought all the versions of C1, and for me, the trouble is that it still hinges around the old 'conversion' model - it's focused on output as .TIF or whatever, and you make your changes and then run the batch to create the output file. Lightroom and Aperture just hold the changes in a database - so you only output for a particular task (from facebook to a 4ft print). I really don't want to go back to that old model where I had 4 copies of each image for different purposes (thumbnail,web,screen,print). These days I just keep the RAW file - and the various versions within Aperture (b&w, HDR, whatever).

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    Yes, the workflow is very important. So LR is my main organizer and final retouching tool. But using a different RC like C1 is not big deal for me because I just use it as a kind of preprocessor for Lightroom. I don't think I would use it for the E-M5 but for the GH3 C1 looks less grainy.
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    Re: Raw support coming to C1 Pro soon

    Quote Originally Posted by dougpeterson View Post
    David, that is simply the new reality. New camera support in C1 (and most others) is provided for free with few exceptions until the next version is released, at which point all new support is only added to the next version.

    The "few exceptions" are times where supporting the new camera requires a lot of new work (e.g. tethered support for a new generation of cameras) and the previous version of C1 is coming to the end of it's cycle. The Fuji is one example of this since it's unique sensor requires a lot of extra work to support.

    You need to factor this into the cost of buying a new camera, just the same as buying a new camera may mean switching types of storage card (SD > CF or vice versa) or other nuances of the modern life.
    Thanks Doug, all understood. Do you want any CF cards?

    I just realised why I'm not getting rich writing and selling my own shareware software. I have never charged for an upgrade in version to my main Software MoonSked and never charge for new rotator control drivers that are required from time to time. Perhaps I need to review that, though I can hear the complaints rolling in from folks who bought their MoonSked licence 10 years ago. This is getting way off topic sorry!

    @Jono Agree about Aperture, best DAM out there, never took to LR though I have it as well. Its a bit like camera bags, always trying something new but come back to old one that my dad bought in the 70's in the end.
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    Re: Raw support coming to C1 Pro soon

    Quote Originally Posted by dougpeterson View Post
    Sources say the next version of C1 will have support for the Fuji X Pro 1 and will include a (finally released by Canon) SDK that supports all the latest Canons in 10.7.5 and 10.8.x.

    Who is excited to process some Fuji X Pro 1 files with a fully featured raw processor, and have those files look great?

    Follow us on Facebook and you'll be the first to know when it's been released:
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    I suppose it's safe to assume the X-E1 would be covered in the same update...?

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    Quote Originally Posted by corposant View Post
    I suppose it's safe to assume the X-E1 would be covered in the same update...?
    Lionel Kuhlmann of Phase One, on an other forum, has confirmed that X-E1 will be supported as well.

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    Re: Raw support coming to C1 Pro soon

    When ?????
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    I am now beta testing C1 7.02 version for X-E1 RAF files,
    I only can say itīs much better than Lightroom 4.3 and ACR 7.3

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    Quote Originally Posted by etermes View Post
    I am now beta testing C1 7.02 version for X-E1 RAF files,
    I only can say itīs much better than Lightroom 4.3 and ACR 7.3
    Please post examples if that is permitted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Braeside View Post
    Please post examples if that is permitted.

    Hi David,

    I canīt comment about the issues on this beta or share the beta software,
    if you are interested about the beta program you can contact Lionel from PhaseOne:

    Phase One and Leaf - Mamiya Official User to User Forum • View topic - Support for Fujifilm x-pro 1


    I think I can share my own RAW file:

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/1oq6q1qh7ie1bww/_DSF0005.RAF

    and four jpg versions (OOC jpg, Silkipix DSP 5, Lightroom 4.3 and C1 7.02):

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/0iti0gxe5t...AF%20files.rar

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    These are looking better than all the programs I have tried, including RPP. Very clean.
    It will certinly simplify things for me to be able to process RAF files in a mixed shoot with the Leica M9.
    thanks for posting

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    Thanks very much for the JPG examples. The C1 version certainly does not have the bleeding of the red that is visible in the Lightroom version (in the writing Pruebe nuestros on the carton bottom left).

    It would be interesting to try with some troublesome landscape photo with distant foliage, which is where the water-colouring generally is seen. Also some architectural shots where other processors often have bad artefacts on edges of diagonal lines.

    Maybe I could send you an RAF file to try?
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    Sure,

    please, send me the RAF files and I will process it

    for foliage see here:

    Re: File to test: Fujifilm X System / SLR Talk Forum: Digital Photography Review

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    Thanks very much Alberto,

    Have sent you a PM with a link to one RAF file to try. If you want the OOC JPG for comparison I can send that too.

    Looking at the previous JPG again in detail at 400% (super pixel peeing), I do notice colour artefacts present in the C1 version in the oriental characters. Also the very top left of the frame has a purple line and odd blocks, that are not in the other conversions. It seems to be a difficult problem to get detail without colour artefacts in places.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Braeside View Post
    Thanks very much Alberto,

    Have sent you a PM with a link to one RAF file to try. If you want the OOC JPG for comparison I can send that too.

    Looking at the previous JPG again in detail at 400% (super pixel peeing), I do notice colour artefacts present in the C1 version in the oriental characters. Also the very top left of the frame has a purple line and odd blocks, that are not in the other conversions. It seems to be a difficult problem to get detail without colour artefacts in places.
    Yes,
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    Re: Raw support coming to C1 Pro soon

    Did the files move or get deleted?

    Quote Originally Posted by etermes View Post
    Hi David,

    I canīt comment about the issues on this beta or share the beta software,
    if you are interested about the beta program you can contact Lionel from PhaseOne:

    Phase One and Leaf - Mamiya Official User to User Forum • View topic - Support for Fujifilm x-pro 1


    I think I can share my own RAW file:

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/1oq6q1qh7ie1bww/_DSF0005.RAF

    and four jpg versions (OOC jpg, Silkipix DSP 5, Lightroom 4.3 and C1 7.02):

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/0iti0gxe5t...AF%20files.rar
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    Re: Raw support coming to C1 Pro soon

    Quote Originally Posted by Braeside View Post
    Thanks very much Alberto,

    Have sent you a PM with a link to one RAF file to try. If you want the OOC JPG for comparison I can send that too.

    Looking at the previous JPG again in detail at 400% (super pixel peeing), I do notice colour artefacts present in the C1 version in the oriental characters. Also the very top left of the frame has a purple line and odd blocks, that are not in the other conversions. It seems to be a difficult problem to get detail without colour artefacts in places.
    I wonder is it likely to be noticeable on a print?

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    Re: Raw support coming to C1 Pro soon

    Quote Originally Posted by etermes View Post
    Yes,
    not a perfect result,
    but the best from all the RAW developers
    I am confused. Are there no RAW developers capable of converting Fuji files? Why did they bother bundling SilkyPix with the camera?

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    HI David
    My Place. Aperture is wonderful for the DAM, the organisation, the keywording, the printing, the cloning tool, etc. etc. It isn't class leader in any of these categories, but I'm with Godfrey - the workflow is more important than the camera. I have a library with external files, so it's easy to change . . . except that I have 50,000 images in this library - changing to something else is a HUGE decision.

    I've also bought all the versions of C1, and for me, the trouble is that it still hinges around the old 'conversion' model - it's focused on output as .TIF or whatever, and you make your changes and then run the batch to create the output file. Lightroom and Aperture just hold the changes in a database - so you only output for a particular task (from facebook to a 4ft print). I really don't want to go back to that old model where I had 4 copies of each image for different purposes (thumbnail,web,screen,print). These days I just keep the RAW file - and the various versions within Aperture (b&w, HDR, whatever).
    Allow me to amplify and concur with Jono. He wrote what I've been thinking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maggie O View Post
    Allow me to amplify and concur with Jono. He wrote what I've been thinking.
    In C1 you can create and store in the db as many variants as you whish of the same image without any need to create and save a rendered jpeg, or Tiff. Same as in LR and Aperture. There are other limitations but not this one.
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    Re: Raw support coming to C1 Pro soon

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    In C1 you can create and store in the db as many variants as you whish of the same image without any need to create and save a rendered jpeg, or Tiff. Same as in LR and Aperture. There are other limitations but not this one.
    HI Ario
    It's changed - and the new Catalog model in C1 version 7 is also a help. I was getting along good trying it out . . . . but now it crashes every time I load it (on 2 computers, and my patience wore out!

    all the best

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    Re: Raw support coming to C1 Pro soon

    Quote Originally Posted by jonoslack View Post
    HI Ario
    It's changed - and the new Catalog model in C1 version 7 is also a help. I was getting along good trying it out . . . . but now it crashes every time I load it (on 2 computers, and my patience wore out!

    all the best
    Hi Jono, I'm sorry for that. I really had stability/crashes problems only when running two different versions of CO at the same time, but I also see that others in various forums are reporting problems with the catalogs.

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    Re: Raw support coming to C1 Pro soon

    Quote Originally Posted by Ario Arioldi View Post
    Hi Jono, I'm sorry for that. I really had stability/crashes problems only when running two different versions of CO at the same time, but I also see that others in various forums are reporting problems with the catalogs.
    Well, I'll leave it for a month or so and try again - you can spend so much time with this stuff!

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    Re: Raw support coming to C1 Pro soon

    Quote Originally Posted by jonoslack View Post
    Well, I'll leave it for a month or so and try again - you can spend so much time with this stuff!
    I had the same problem with the catalog function in C1-7
    This was due I think because the shoot folder included RAW files from as yet unsupported cameras.
    I have gone back to using sessions, and avoiding files from unsupported cameras.
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    Re: Raw support coming to C1 Pro soon

    Quote Originally Posted by archiM44 View Post
    I had the same problem with the catalog function in C1-7
    This was due I think because the shoot folder included RAW files from as yet unsupported cameras.
    I have gone back to using sessions, and avoiding files from unsupported cameras.
    Thank you - That might easily have been the problem . . . but there isn't currently an easy solution for me . . . So I'll go back to using Aperture! (which at least behaves gracefully for unsupported cameras).

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    Re: Raw support coming to C1 Pro soon

    etermes helped me to get two raws converted. This is clearly a step into the right direction. Can't wait.
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    Re: Raw support coming to C1 Pro soon

    Hi Guys,
    I've been testing the 7.02 beta for two days now, and have to say I am very, very impressed with the results. It's still a beta, but I am really like the results so far.

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    Re: Raw support coming to C1 Pro soon

    Quote Originally Posted by etermes View Post
    Hi David,

    I canīt comment about the issues on this beta or share the beta software,
    if you are interested about the beta program you can contact Lionel from PhaseOne:

    Phase One and Leaf - Mamiya Official User to User Forum • View topic - Support for Fujifilm x-pro 1


    I think I can share my own RAW file:

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/1oq6q1qh7ie1bww/_DSF0005.RAF

    and four jpg versions (OOC jpg, Silkipix DSP 5, Lightroom 4.3 and C1 7.02):

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/0iti0gxe5t...AF%20files.rar
    For another comparison here is the same raw file processed in AccuRaw beta:

    Link to fullsize JPG in sRGB
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    Re: Raw support coming to C1 Pro soon

    Still I prefer the C1 7.02 beta version of my pic:

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/fdf5utl7m6vo5aj/c1_702.jpg

    less color artifacts and more clarity

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    Re: Raw support coming to C1 Pro soon

    Both renderings are pretty good. Everybody needs to make their own decisions, and I'm obviously a bit biased .

    But if I may point out, take a look at the blue thread where it runs across the area of orange threads. In the AccuRaw rendering, the thread stays blue. In the other rendering - not.

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