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    Ruh roh, Scooby. Camera appears to be dead on arrival!

    Just took the camera out for fsecnd use today, and about 10 shots in to shooting today (in my office), and the rear LCD viewfinder went grey, then died...I tried resetting the camera, changing view mode, chancing my SD card. Everything works if I look through the EVF, but no rear LCD operation is possible. Damn...Back to the camera store I go....hopefully a replacement will be in order soon....

    It's literally been sitting in my camera bag overnight...drats!
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    Quote Originally Posted by JMaher View Post
    Thanks to Lloyd and Jono for your comments and observations. I really guess I need to find a way to see/touch one in person.

    The 3:2 format would be welcome as well as visible settings.

    What about image stabilization? That seems to be lacking in the camera body and while I never thought it mattered for short lenses I find I was wrong and that equivalent 35's and 50's, etc. seem to benefit from the in camera stabilization on the EM-1 (or maybe as I get older I benefit from stabilization).

    Jono - will be very interested to see what you decide.

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    Jim,
    Don't go and see/touch it if you have been waiting for a good manual control camera and don't want to get hooked .

    IBIS is the one question mark for me, but I spent more than a week with the XE-2 using manual lenses only, and found that the better ISO performance than my EM-5 pretty much seemed to counterbalance the quality results I get from the Oly IBIS. Of course, that means you have to pay attention to your shutter speed much more than you do with the Oly, and I had to return to a slightly different style of shooting. Slower shutter speeds mean more tripod work for instance, and oyu will otherwise end up freezing action more (not necessarily a bad thing unless you want blur as with flowing water for instance).

    I now view it as a trade off between IBIS and higher ISO perf. For me, the things that has truly caused me to take the chance is the ergonomics which just seem to work for me. Having all the controls I want accessible without menu diving or command dial twirling is a pleasure. Understand that this comes from someone who has truly enjoyed shooting with the EM-5, and I have no intention of bailing on m4/3 (although the EM-1 when I rented it for a week didn't win me completely over compared to my EM-5).

    I never had any intention of running two systems .

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    Bad luck there Ashwin. Hope you get a replacement soon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ashwinrao1 View Post
    Thanks, Jono. Unfortunately, I have had a hiccup, as my camera appears to be dead on arrival...at least the rear LCD...

    That being said, I am hoping to have my camera store replace it, since I didn't shoot any more than 30 frames with it last night....

    My kit, as I see it, will be:
    14 mm f/2.8
    23 mm f/1.4
    35 mm f/1.4
    56 mm f/1.2
    18-55
    55-200


    I doubt I'd need anything else...
    umm, isn't that pretty much everything they make now

    well, macro isn't there or the XC lenses. Hope they can quickly sort the DOA body. That's always a bummer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ashwinrao1 View Post
    Ruh roh, Scooby. Camera appears to be dead on arrival!

    Just took the camera out for fsecnd use today, and about 10 shots in to shooting today (in my office), and the rear LCD viewfinder went grey, then died...I tried resetting the camera, changing view mode, chancing my SD card. Everything works if I look through the EVF, but no rear LCD operation is possible. Damn...Back to the camera store I go....hopefully a replacement will be in order soon....

    It's literally been sitting in my camera bag overnight...drats!
    Sigh, that's you and Jono having problematic cameras in a pretty small sample. Hope it's just a huge coincidence.

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    I believe Jono resolved his difficulty with the buttons, so perhaps that doesn't count. (switched off intelligent face detection).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Woods View Post
    Can anyone comment on focussing with M lenses? Is it a series of annoying button pushes to magnify, focus, return to main view, etc, etc, or does the M adapter make life easy?

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    Well, on the XE-1, the rocker dial immediately brings up magnification, turn for 3x, 10x. Press dial in again to leave mag, or half press shutter. Very convenient. I assume much the same on XT-1.

    M adapter from Fuji merely transmit the lens' focal length to Exif. Cheapo adapters have worked fine for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Braeside View Post
    I believe Jono resolved his difficulty with the buttons, so perhaps that doesn't count. (switched off intelligent face detection).
    Cool. I missed that. Thanks.

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    Well, on the XE-1, the rocker dial immediately brings up magnification, turn for 3x, 10x. Press dial in again to leave mag, or half press shutter. Very convenient. I assume much the same on XT-1.

    M adapter from Fuji merely transmit the lens' focal length to Exif. Cheapo adapters have worked fine for me.
    My experience with the XE-2 is that is was the best manual focus camera I had used so far. Seems like the X-T1 follows that pattern.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kdriceman View Post
    I've just run a comparison looking at sharpness between the XT1, my Nex6 and Leica M using my Summilux 50. All look good with the M being noticeably better and the XT1 and Nex being quite comparable. However, I'm disappointed in the sharpness of the 18-55 lens. It is softer than the plastic Sony 16-50. What are others experiencing with IQ using the 18-55? Satisfied or not? Have I just got a bad copy?
    That is untypical, the 18-55mm is generally considered to be excellent, certainly that has been my experience on the X-Pro 1. JPGs will have some in camera software distortion correction, which does a small bit of stretching, you can see this by comparing a raw.

    When Jono was going through the green rendering queries in the other thread, this was discussed a little, and we wondered if OIS could also be affecting IQ in some cases. Personally I have not had any such issues. I hope you can try another copy and see if there is any change.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Braeside View Post
    I believe Jono resolved his difficulty with the buttons, so perhaps that doesn't count. (switched off intelligent face detection).
    Hi There
    That's right - David knew . . . . although the guy in the specialist dealer didn't, nor did the Fuji service people!
    Someone in the office had turned on intelligent face detection . . . . and it switches off:
    Exposure mode
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    Crazy

    Doug, Jim - the IBIS on the OMD is a thing of splendour and wonder, but for me, personally, almost all my use will be with a zoom, and these do have OIS, I'll stick to using my M lenses on my M . . . except possibly in good light.

    Ashwin
    Really sorry about your LCD - that sounds like a grand lens collection (do you have some left from X-Pro1 days?)
    I'm looking forward to the 18-135 zoom, and possibly the 10-24 as well, then I'll be done! (well, I would rather like the 55 f1.2 .. . . . and maybe the macro . . . and of course the 16-55 f2.8 would be nice when it arrives ).

    Now - where are those gas pills!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Braeside View Post
    That is untypical, the 18-55mm is generally considered to be excellent, certainly that has been my experience on the X-Pro 1. JPGs will have some in camera software distortion correction, which does a small bit of stretching, you can see this by comparing a raw.

    When Jono was going through the green rendering queries in the other thread, this was discussed a little, and we wondered if OIS could also be affecting IQ in some cases. Personally I have not had any such issues. I hope you can try another copy and see if there is any change.
    Hi David
    quite right - my 18-55 seems to be fine - all of these kit lenses seem to suffer from variation from lens to lens though. Perhaps Fuji less than others?

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    Well, the defective X-T1 is returned to the dealer, and I await a replacement (probably within the week, possibly next). My awesome dealer (Glazers Camera) provided me with a loaner XE-2, so I remain with an X-camera. Ergonomically, I can immediately tell the difference. The XE-2 is a great camera, but "feels" very different in hand than the X-T1...less confidence inspiring...The EVF is solid, but doesn't have the umph of the X-T1's....At least I have something to shoot, with fast AF, while I wait for the replacement to arrive. I think it was just a terrible coincidence that mine was down for the count....

    Jono, I do have the 35 mm f/1.4 lens from the good old days of 2 years back. That's a lens worth keeping...Having shot a few XE-2 shots, I do see a difference in detail between this and the A7, but then again, that's not really why I made the switch.... At least XE-2 RAW files convert in LR5.3 lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by nostatic View Post
    umm, isn't that pretty much everything they make now

    well, macro isn't there or the XC lenses. Hope they can quickly sort the DOA body. That's always a bummer.
    Ha, true....I am a 21/35/50/90 guy, given my rangefinder-way of shooting...The zooms are "new" for me, and I may eventually find my way to a macro, but didn't get along great with the 60 mm lens when I last used Fuji. Being not a huge macro guy means I will probably hold off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jonoslack View Post
    Ashwin
    Really sorry about your LCD - that sounds like a grand lens collection (do you have some left from X-Pro1 days?)

    I'm looking forward to the 18-135 zoom, and possibly the 10-24 as well, then I'll be done! (well, I would rather like the 55 f1.2 .. . . . and maybe the macro . . . and of course the 16-55 f2.8 would be nice when it arrives ).

    Now - where are those gas pills!
    Ah yes, GAS...for me, the only real constant in photography is GAS...

    Oh, and my M system, talong with the 645D for nearly 2 years now, with no plans to see either off...

    I loved the A7 (IQ truly something, magical), but it didn't feel 100% like a lifetime camera...The Fuji's have their issues, but the User experience is getting awefully close to something I can really sink my teeth into for some time....
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    Quote Originally Posted by ashwinrao1 View Post
    Ah yes, GAS...for me, the only real constant is my M system, though I have had the 645D for nearly 2 years now, with no plans to see it off...

    I loved the A7, but it didn't feel 100% like a lifetime camera...The Fuji's have their issues, but the User experience is getting awefully close to something I can really sink my teeth into for some time....
    I have to say, I really like to hear you say this - there's so much concentration on 100% detail and file size . . . . but to me the best camera is . . . erm . . . . the best camera (maybe we should all cut the crap and buy the Nikon F6!)

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    Thanks, Jono...An F6...yes, nearing perfection, that camera is. Jono, it has taken some time, but I do come around now and again

    The only other camera, oddly, that inspired me as such, was the RX1R...great piece of kit. The A7 system is truly a home run at many levels, technologically in particular, but the reason I got into the Leica M's, and why I have stayed there, has so much to do with how enjoyable those cameras are to use in daily shooting. Certainly, they are not for everyone, nor is the X-T1, but there's a certain appeal.

    Once I have the X-T1 back, I am really looking forward to allowing myself to explore the camera's ergonomics and controls fully. I love having full control over image parameters at the tips of my fingers.... I only wish the ISO dial wouldn't lock as it does, but I suspect a bit of clear tape may fix that issue
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    Quote Originally Posted by jonoslack View Post
    HAH!
    Welcome Ashwin
    You're more precipitate than me (I still have my A7 and an E-M1), I'm planning to make a final decision by the end of the month when the Fuji special deals in the UK run out.

    No doubt the ergonomics of the Fuji have me sold. Love to see all that stuff at a glance.

    Which lenses?
    Jono, do I have this right? £100 cashback on lenses, and a further £100 if you buy 2 lenses?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ashwinrao1 View Post
    Thanks, Jono...An F6...yes, nearing perfection, that camera is. Jono, it has taken some time, but I do come around now and again

    The only other camera, oddly, that inspired me as such, was the RX1R...great piece of kit. The A7 system is truly a home run at many levels, technologically in particular, but the reason I got into the Leica M's, and why I have stayed there, has so much to do with how enjoyable those cameras are to use in daily shooting. Certainly, they are not for everyone, nor is the X-T1, but there's a certain appeal.
    I just didn't like the A7r - I still have the A7 (and the E-M1), and I'm still thinking about which camera I'm going to end up with.

    Quote Originally Posted by ashwinrao1 View Post
    Once I have the X-T1 back, I am really looking forward to allowing myself to explore the camera's ergonomics and controls fully. I love having full control over image parameters at the tips of my fingers.... I only wish the ISO dial wouldn't lock as it does, but I suspect a bit of clear tape may fix that issue
    I thought that about the ISO dial - but actually, I realise, I don't change the ISO that often - certainly not on a shot to shot basis - but the advantage of being able to see what you've done on the top plate is really good. I know it's been criticised, but I reckon they've done good (I suppose an ideal would have been to do it as the shutter speed, so it locked into Auto, but not for individual speeds).

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    Jono, do I have this right? £100 cashback on lenses, and a further £100 if you buy 2 lenses?

    Mike
    That's right - so, £300 if you buy 2 lenses (it's only £500 if you buy 4 lenses).

    There's also an oddly interesting deal with the X-Pro1 . . . £899 with the 18mm lens (i.e. £460 for the body which was selling for over a grand) PLUS a free lens up to £500 - so, effectively a free body . . . . . if you wanted one!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ashwinrao1 View Post
    Thanks, Jono...An F6...yes, nearing perfection, that camera is. Jono, it has taken some time, but I do come around now and again
    Okay, I have to disagree with you two now. FM2n was my ideal camera .

    (and for the record, the X-T1 seems to get closest to my pipe dream of an FM2D )

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    Re: X-T1 first impressions...

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    Ruh roh, Scooby. Camera appears to be dead on arrival!

    Just took the camera out for fsecnd use today, and about 10 shots in to shooting today (in my office), and the rear LCD viewfinder went grey, then died...I tried resetting the camera, changing view mode, chancing my SD card. Everything works if I look through the EVF, but no rear LCD operation is possible. Damn...Back to the camera store I go....hopefully a replacement will be in order soon....

    It's literally been sitting in my camera bag overnight...drats!
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    Quote Originally Posted by greypilgrim View Post
    Okay, I have to disagree with you two now. FM2n was my ideal camera .

    (and for the record, the X-T1 seems to get closest to my pipe dream of an FM2D )

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    Quote Originally Posted by ashwinrao1 View Post
    Thanks, Jono...An F6...yes, nearing perfection, that camera is. Jono, it has taken some time, but I do come around now and again

    The only other camera, oddly, that inspired me as such, was the RX1R...great piece of kit. The A7 system is truly a home run at many levels, technologically in particular, but the reason I got into the Leica M's, and why I have stayed there, has so much to do with how enjoyable those cameras are to use in daily shooting. Certainly, they are not for everyone, nor is the X-T1, but there's a certain appeal.

    Once I have the X-T1 back, I am really looking forward to allowing myself to explore the camera's ergonomics and controls fully. I love having full control over image parameters at the tips of my fingers.... I only wish the ISO dial wouldn't lock as it does, but I suspect a bit of clear tape may fix that issue
    If you are into the manual dials, then I think it is an excellent choice. In my case, I found I've come to actually prefer the mode dial and faceless knob twiddling to change aperture and shutter speed so I was kinda swimming upstream with the Fuji

    The RX1r has won a spot in my heart, as much as I keep trying to convince myself that I don't need it and that there are better choices. It has its quirks, but seems to consistently give me the best results. Go figure...
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    Quote Originally Posted by nostatic View Post
    If you are into the manual dials, then I think it is an excellent choice. In my case, I found I've come to actually prefer the mode dial and faceless knob twiddling to change aperture and shutter speed
    You're just kidding yourself Todd . . . . X-T1 and an RX-10 - the perfect combination

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    Okay, I have to disagree with you two now. FM2n was my ideal camera .

    (and for the record, the X-T1 seems to get closest to my pipe dream of an FM2D )

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    HI Doug
    I think I was quoting Jörgen - I've never owned an F6, or an FE, or an FM2n . . but I did love my F100, and the Contax RTSII as well.

    The Fuji isn't either of these things (although it certainly looks like a mini RTS II). But it does work rather like one. Cameras come and go so fast these days, but there are digital icons - Olympus E1 for example. The X-T1 certainly has a little fairy dust about it.

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    HI Doug
    I think I was quoting Jörgen - I've never owned an F6, or an FE, or an FM2n . . but I did love my F100, and the Contax RTSII as well.

    The Fuji isn't either of these things (although it certainly looks like a mini RTS II). But it does work rather like one. Cameras come and go so fast these days, but there are digital icons - Olympus E1 for example. The X-T1 certainly has a little fairy dust about it.
    Oops, I must have misread.

    But I agree.

    Pass the fairy dust.

    It does feel in hand quite similar to my FM2 (Smaller than my F2AS by a fair bit which is good).

    RTS II? You've got me there.

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    My particular camera wasn't quite sprinkled with fairy dust (rather, it probably needed an exorcism), but I hope my XT-1 comes to me in a happier state...needless to say, I am testing it out in the camera store this time around...

    Seriously though, I should be ready to roll in style soon enough, and looking forward to spreading whatever pixie dust is available to be spread...
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    Brad.

    I just got my X-T1 and have been playing with it today. I have not had a chance to try any REAL focus tracking shots, but did find two things really interesting. Turning on the "High Performance" mode under power management and also taking the size of the focus patch down really improved autofocus speed and accuracy.

    The default is HP off and the medium focus patch.

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    Re: X-T1 first impressions...

    Quote Originally Posted by ashwinrao1 View Post
    The only other camera, oddly, that inspired me as such, was the RX1R...great piece of kit.
    I only have two "small" systems - Fuji X cameras and the RX1r. I agree that the RX1 is exceptional and a joy to use. It has "mojo" IMHO if that means anything. Ditto the Fuji X, the current epitome of which is the X-T1.
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    Gotta agree with you Graham.

    I have a full Nikon system that just works but doesn't inspire & only comes along when I have to because of the weight.

    I have an M240 which I love for personal work & some concert work. However, I'm down to just the .95 Noctilux which lives on this body. It's my go to 50.

    The RX1r which I have fallen in love with for a take everywhere camera & is my go to for 35. It even got me to sell the 35 Lux FLE. This lens & sensor combo is just AMAZING.

    Now for the Fuji X system. I started out with an X100 and eventually an X100s. They were great vacation cameras but not a pro tool. I also have had an X-Pro 1. It was getting closer, but just too slow. Along comes the X-E2, which was better but still not there. Finally, the X-T1 is in my hands. OMG. This camera's ergonomics, response, ease of use, & menu system with the really good fuji glass had the MOJO. The next iteration of this camera & the weather sealed 2.8 long zoom, may just get me out of my Nikon gear.

    I'm still experimenting with the Sony A7/A7R system also. I love the native glass & fabulous sensor, but HATE the camera. I'm going to stay in the A7 & sell the A7r. The R is just to slow with the shutter lag & vibration. Right now, the A7 is becoming my studio camera.

    I'm holding out the verdict on which will stay as my system, Fuji or Sony. I will say that the one which is really enjoyable to shoot is the Fuji.
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    Quote Originally Posted by harmsr View Post
    Gotta agree with you Graham.

    I have a full Nikon system that just works but doesn't inspire & only comes along when I have to because of the weight.

    I have an M240 which I love for personal work & some concert work. However, I'm down to just the .95 Noctilux which lives on this body. It's my go to 50.

    The RX1r which I have fallen in love with for a take everywhere camera & is my go to for 35. It even got me to sell the 35 Lux FLE. This lens & sensor combo is just AMAZING.

    Now for the Fuji X system. I started out with an X100 and eventually an X100s. They were great vacation cameras but not a pro tool. I also have had an X-Pro 1. It was getting closer, but just too slow. Along comes the X-E2, which was better but still not there. Finally, the X-T1 is in my hands. OMG. This camera's ergonomics, response, ease of use, & menu system with the really good fuji glass had the MOJO. The next iteration of this camera & the weather sealed 2.8 long zoom, may just get me out of my Nikon gear.

    I'm still experimenting with the Sony A7/A7R system also. I love the native glass & fabulous sensor, but HATE the camera. I'm going to stay in the A7 & sell the A7r. The R is just to slow with the shutter lag & vibration. Right now, the A7 is becoming my studio camera.

    I'm holding out the verdict on which will stay as my system, Fuji or Sony. I will say that the one which is really enjoyable to shoot is the Fuji.
    That's really interesting. I'm also deciding which will stay and which will go - I've got the A7, E-M1, X-T1 - I also had an A7r, but like you, I found the shutter lag and vibration to be impossible. At the moment the A7 is definitely at the back of the race!

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    Brad.

    I just got my X-T1 and have been playing with it today. I have not had a chance to try any REAL focus tracking shots, but did find two things really interesting. Turning on the "High Performance" mode under power management and also taking the size of the focus patch down really improved autofocus speed and accuracy.

    The default is HP off and the medium focus patch.

    How was your's set-up for the lacrosse test?
    I did have the focus spot narrow but not in high performance mode. I think I need some further testing even with 3rd party telephoto manual focus lenses in the dim light to see if the camera itself can keep up.

    I can't wait for the Fuji 50-150 2.8
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    Quote Originally Posted by bradhusick View Post
    I did have the focus spot narrow but not in high performance mode. I think I need some further testing even with 3rd party telephoto manual focus lenses in the dim light to see if the camera itself can keep up.

    How do you change the focus spot to narrow? Can't seem to find that.

    I got it I had face detection on. That defeats the ability to do anything with the AF point.

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    Menu- autofocus setting - focus area- spin rear dial
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    Michael Reichmann has his impressions on the X-T1 up on Luminous Landscape. Kind of an interesting read. I think it meshes with some of what people have written here (that it depends on your style of shooting whether it works for you, but that it is wonderfully laid out....).

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    Quote Originally Posted by greypilgrim View Post
    Michael Reichmann has his impressions on the X-T1 up on Luminous Landscape. Kind of an interesting read. I think it meshes with some of what people have written here (that it depends on your style of shooting whether it works for you, but that it is wonderfully laid out....).

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    HI Doug
    I read it with interest - but I thought the Canada Geese analogy was a bit lame (Canada Ducks maybe ). . . . and if you're shooting RAW do you really need all those blinks and zebras to get the exposure right?

    I get what he means about custom modes, but the trouble is that you forget you're in them and shoot a whole lot at the wrong settings (or I do). There isn't a cure for being a pillock. At least with the Fuji you can SEE what's what. Actually, my trouble with custom modes is that I forget what I put in them!

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    Re: X-T1 first impressions...

    Jono, I agree completely with you comment about custom modes.

    On the Fuji I love the fact that I can see all my shooting settings BEFORE I turn on the camera! Just like the old days when cameras barely had power switches.

    I just wish they'd hurry up and sell fast long lenses.
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    I think that Michael's point for custom settings is valid.
    I also agree with Jono about the issues involved.
    The camera is set up to allow both if implemented by Fuji.

    I would love to see a "pro" setting to take advantage of the camera dials set to "A" or automatic. Within the menu select either "A Standard" the auto setting for those that need everything decided for them and "A Pro" which would allow you to set all the specifics of a custom setting and assign it to one of the function buttons.

    This would make custom settings only available when all the dials and switches are set to the "A" markings. So no issues for Jono (and myself )

    And take care of those like Michael whom use them extensively.

    Since the "A" settings all ready allow for everything to change as necessary, there should be very little involved to implement this workflow.

    As I am in Canada, I still wait for the arrival of my X-T1 with much jealousy towards those who have been posting their experiences.

    Soooon, please sooooooooon. Oh and another vote for Long Fast Lenses.
    Not that there is anything wrong with that.........................
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    Re: X-T1 first impressions...

    I shot a few this morning, the colours are just lovely


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    Of course, it's with the kit zoom (it's all I've got).

    I'm liking it more and more as I get used to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonoslack View Post
    I get what he means about custom modes, but the trouble is that you forget you're in them and shoot a whole lot at the wrong settings (or I do). There isn't a cure for being a pillock. At least with the Fuji you can SEE what's what. Actually, my trouble with custom modes is that I forget what I put in them!
    Superbly articulated! This is pretty much exactly how I would have put it...
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    Quote Originally Posted by jonoslack View Post
    There isn't a cure for being a pillock. At least with the Fuji you can SEE what's what. Actually, my trouble with custom modes is that I forget what I put in them!
    So, next Firmware update needs "APM", "Anti-Pillock-Mode"?
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    Jono and Brad, I agree. For me, having the settings visible on the camera rather than menu diving is the way to go. I did find his points interesting (I just rejected some of them for the way I shoot which is actually something he says in the article.)

    I shoot mostly with primes and often with manual lenses, so if I am getting the geese (ducks? ), it is with the lens I have on the camera and with the settings I can manually set.

    I do not see the scenario of shooting a portrait and then magically having the right lens for the wildlife.

    Still, I found the article a good read because it made me think some...

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    Re: X-T1 first impressions...

    Not to be an advocate of the devil (hail, satan!), but the settings on the XT1 that are available on physical controls aren't necessarily buried in menus on other cameras, are they? For instance, the A7(r) has two dials and a control wheel, and if you're in M mode and look through the EVF you see the aperture, shutter speed, and iso indicated. You've got the ability to change those settings without taking your eyes from the EVF or moving your left hand.

    I agree that you can see them from "outside" the camera, but are there other settings that are physical controls on the XT1 that require a menu dive on another comparable camera?

    Also I have no idea what a pillock is, but I have a gut feeling that I need to use that term about some people at work...

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    Now...I know where Jono and Ashwin have gone!

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    Quote Originally Posted by nostatic View Post

    ... I have no idea what a pillock is, but I have a gut feeling that I need to use that term about some people at work...
    pillock - Wiktionary


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    Quote Originally Posted by jonoslack View Post
    That's really interesting. I'm also deciding which will stay and which will go - I've got the A7, E-M1, X-T1 - I also had an A7r, but like you, I found the shutter lag and vibration to be impossible. At the moment the A7 is definitely at the back of the race!

    all the best
    Jono, did you find a solution for your smeared green problems? I remember some days ago you sounded like the Fuji would go back but now you sound different. I might be interested to get either a EM1 or a xt1 for casual fast moments.

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    HI Doug
    I read it with interest - but I thought the Canada Geese analogy was a bit lame (Canada Ducks maybe ). . . . and if you're shooting RAW do you really need all those blinks and zebras to get the exposure right?

    I get what he means about custom modes, but the trouble is that you forget you're in them and shoot a whole lot at the wrong settings (or I do). There isn't a cure for being a pillock. At least with the Fuji you can SEE what's what. Actually, my trouble with custom modes is that I forget what I put in them!
    Exactly. And why for most of us, all the systems being discussed produce excellent IQ, but how we communicate with the camera and how it communicates with us - is key.

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    HI Todd
    Quote Originally Posted by nostatic View Post
    Not to be an advocate of the devil (hail, satan!), but the settings on the XT1 that are available on physical controls aren't necessarily buried in menus on other cameras, are they? For instance, the A7(r) has two dials and a control wheel, and if you're in M mode and look through the EVF you see the aperture, shutter speed, and iso indicated. You've got the ability to change those settings without taking your eyes from the EVF or moving your left hand.
    I agree that you can see them from "outside" the camera,
    Of course there are disadvantages in having the settings on the outside as well - I think you could indulge in a pretty big philosophical debate about this!

    Quote Originally Posted by nostatic View Post
    but are there other settings that are physical controls on the XT1 that require a menu dive on another comparable camera?
    Hmm - well, there are outside controls for ISO, Exposure mode, shot mode and focus mode - you don't necessarily have to delve in menus, but it usually needs something rather less explicit.


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    Also I have no idea what a pillock is, but I have a gut feeling that I need to use that term about some people at work...

    Bob, as for the Wiktionary definition - it's pretty clearly understood around here to refer to the other part of a man's tackle - so not quite a D1ckhead - more perhaps a Ballhead? but I think the meaning is pretty accurate!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paratom View Post
    Jono, did you find a solution for your smeared green problems? I remember some days ago you sounded like the Fuji would go back but now you sound different. I might be interested to get either a EM1 or a xt1 for casual fast moments.
    Hi Tom
    Well - learning to use the RAW files in Aperture has pretty much fixed the problem, and for other situations Iridient produces sparklingly sharp files.

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