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    Quote Originally Posted by Paratom View Post
    Jono, did you find a solution for your smeared green problems? I remember some days ago you sounded like the Fuji would go back but now you sound different. I might be interested to get either a EM1 or a xt1 for casual fast moments.
    After playing with the XT1 briefly and having some real experience with the EM1 I must say I still prefer the look of the EM1 EVF over the Fuji.

    Also AF on the EM1 is definitely faster. Plus the available glass from m43 is definitely not second to Fuji.

    Colors are a matter of taste, although the EM1 is not too bad there as we all know - sometimes I prefer the Fuji, sometimes the Olympus ....

    Tough decision at least for me .... not sure if I do not just want to wait for the XPro2 which should arrive during Photokina 2014 and would be the real game changer then.

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    Re: X-T1 first impressions...

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    After playing with the XT1 briefly and having some real experience with the EM1 I must say I still prefer the look of the EM1 EVF over the Fuji.
    I'm inclined to agree here Peter

    Quote Originally Posted by ptomsu View Post
    Also AF on the EM1 is definitely faster. Plus the available glass from m43 is definitely not second to Fuji.
    As far as AF is concerned - if you make the Fuji focus point small, and put it in high performance mode there isn't much in it - but the tracking on the Fuji seems better


    Quote Originally Posted by ptomsu View Post
    Tough decision at least for me .... not sure if I do not just want to wait for the XPro2 which should arrive during Photokina 2014 and would be the real game changer then.
    I don't think it's coming this year - I think there will be an Xpro1s with the same sensor as the X-T1 and generally speeded up.

    all the best

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    Thanks guys. this helps..
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    Got my speed booster today (I'd been playing with a regular F mount adapter). This combination balances really well. 20mm f3.5 + speedbooster. Actually balances better than the Fuji 35mm in my hand. This combo plus a k1 extension ring makes for some interesting wide angle close up capabilities (happy cat pic, ISO 3200, JPG straight from the cam, just resized).

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    So, I spent a three day weekend shooting with the X-T1 in Big Sur this weekend, and I thought I would share my experiences. This will be purely subjective as I was focused on how the camera works or doesn't for me. As always YMMV.

    Other than a few candids of family members, this was exclusively nature focused (landscape and some macros). My lenses of choice were the Fuji 35mm, and a raft of nikkors with either a standard adapter or a speed booster from metabones.

    My conclusion if you don't want to read further is the jury is still out.

    First, the locking ISO dial is not as annoying for me as I thought it would be. There were a few times I grumbled at it, but all in all not a blocker. I could manipulate it with the camera to my eye most of the time.

    Fuji colors, what can I say? To be honest, I shoot RAW exclusively, so I always assumed this was not important. I was wrong. The JPEGs out of the camera have very nice rendition. This was with the standard (Provia?) simulation. I will still always shoot RAW, but...

    Greens and smearing. Weirdly, this seems to be more of an issue with the Fuji 35 than it does with the nikkors on the adapters. I wonder if there is some byplay with the builtin lens correction? Doesn't seem to be a deal breaker.

    SD card door. This is annoying. It popped open on me 3 times. I do not find it as flimsy as people mentioned elsewhere, but if it pops open like that, it is a candidate for breaking off as well as letting in the elements.

    Movie recording button. Definite grumble here. I must have hit this about 10 times during the weekend (my wife definitely started recognizing that particular grumble ). Not a deal breaker, but annoying. This caused me to run out of space on an SD card at a rather inopportune moment.

    I also hit the front function button accidentally at times, but since it was set to DOF Preview, this was not a major annoyance.

    Misaligned tripod socket. This was annoying, but the handgrip would solve the issue.

    EVF, sweet.

    Various focus aids. Well thought out and easy to access.

    Too bad the timer isn't on the same switch as the continuous shooting settings. But easy to access via the Q menu.

    Speaking of which, the only thing I needed the Q Menu for was the timer setting.

    The camera is so easy to set up. It's hard to get lost.

    Setting to MF and having the AF-L button still work is perfect.

    Not being able to easily access the "thirds" for shutter speed is annoying. 1/320s? How do I set that?

    A modern lens with an aperture ring that works. How nice is that?

    Focus speed with the 35mm (yes updated) is not super fast. Slower than my oly primes on my EM-5 imo.

    Best feeling camera in my hand that I have used in quite a while.

    Not having an RGB histogram for image review/chimping is a downer.

    I found the carrying experience to be similar to when I carry my EM-5 kit. Heavier, yes, but not enough to be problematic. And it still blows away carrying a D200 .

    Small four way buttons. Not too bad for me.

    Tilt screen. As good as the EM-5's. Nuff said.

    I will post some pics in the fun with thread.

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    Shutter speeds on thirds are available via the front/rear command dial (you can customize it). They also are cached between power off / on too.

    Regarding timer, you can program any of the custom buttons to bring that up. I also program the front custom button to bring up AF points.

    I found it worth spending some time getting familiar and customizing the camera to your own preferences. Personally I find that this transforms the camera from being good with foibles to being a tool.

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    Shutter speeds on thirds are available via the front/rear command dial (you can customize it). They also are cached between power off / on too.
    Kinda makes having the shutter speed not on a command dial and with its own dial a bit problematic if you have to go to a command dial anyway? As a matter of fact, now it is a two dial process instead of one. I also do like having the front button set as DOF preview (same spot as I am used to on other cameras).

    Quote Originally Posted by GrahamWelland View Post
    Regarding timer, you can program any of the custom buttons to bring that up. I also program the front custom button to bring up AF points.
    Good point on setting the timer. Although I found that using the Q menu worked fine for it. Anything requiring a timer doesn't require speedy access for me.

    Quote Originally Posted by GrahamWelland View Post
    I found it worth spending some time getting familiar and customizing the camera to your own preferences. Personally I find that this transforms the camera from being good with foibles to being a tool.

    YMMV.
    That would be the point of having spent a 3 day weekend with it shooting in an environment I normally shoot in under conditions I normally shoot under. A first impression is really only as good as the amount of time you spent with the camera generating that first impression . After all, my first "first impression" was crazy enough to cause me to go out and buy one when I was perfectly happy with my EM-5 . Now I am beginning the process of seeing if that holds up (similar to what Jono said he is doing with his multitude of options).

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    The latest prerelease version of ACR for Photoshop CC from Adobe Labs has, under Camera Calibrations, a drop down menu offering the Fuji film types (Provia, Velvia, etc.)
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    Re: X-T1 first impressions...

    My short article on using the X-T1 for sports is now up on steve huff, inside his camera review.
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    Brad I was expecting more than two sentences about the 'meat' of the focus performance for sports targets.
    OK maybe three.
    Even the link?

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    Here's the link to the article. My comments about sports shooting appear at the end, just before the comments section.

    The Fuji X-T1 Review. Fuji creates the Best X to date! | STEVE HUFF PHOTOS
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    Just got my vertical battery grip for the X-T1 today. I can sum it up in two words: It ROCKS!

    I have less than dainty hands and so the grip changes the character of the X-T1 to feel more like the girth of the X-Pro1 with RRS L bracket on it. I know that won't appeal to everyone but the grip moves all of the controls into the right place under my fingers vs the body alone. I also like the fact that the LCD/EVF shows the state of both batteries. Even with a second battery it is feather light compared to my D600 & grip.

    Using the camera vertically is unsurprisingly much more comfortable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bradhusick View Post
    Here's the link to the article. My comments about sports shooting appear at the end, just before the comments section.

    The Fuji X-T1 Review. Fuji creates the Best X to date! | STEVE HUFF PHOTOS
    I too concur with the sports shooting conclusion. It's marginal and a good DSLR/lens combo will easily outclass the XT1. But, as you note, that's not what the XT1 is striving for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GrahamWelland View Post
    Just got my vertical battery grip for the X-T1 today. I can sum it up in two words: It ROCKS!

    ..... Snip

    Using the camera vertically is unsurprisingly much more comfortable.

    Hi Graham, I concurr that I find the X-T1 handling much better with the vertical battery grip, however I wish they had done something similar to the grips for the EM5 where you can have the choice of an improved handgrip on its own or also fit the vertical part with the extra battery when needed. I find the X-T1 just not big enough on its own for my hand, and need a bit more height and depth of the hand grip, so I have ordered the Metal Hand Grip as well to try, (I love the MHG on my XP1, it makes it just the right size and great for popping on the tripod).

    Not having an Exposure Compensation dial or control on the vertical battery grip is frustrating, even a choice of using the thumb dials for EC when the camera was in a vertical orientation would have been neat, but I can understand why they thought it might have been difficult and confusing to implement a system where a physical dial on the camera is over-ridden by another control.

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    Re: X-T1 first impressions...

    Coming from the Fujifilm X-Pro 1, the X-T1 is in some ways slightly frustrating.

    For example, on the XP1 with the EVF it is possible to switch between a custom setting and a normal setting, allowing a choice of having a grid overlay and the digital level or not as required, by just pressing the Display button. You can do this on the LCD on the XT1 but not on the EVF. Hopefully a firmware update may allow this in the future.

    I shall certainly keep my XP1, with its firmware improvements over the years it is still a very capable camera and a joy to use. I truly wish for a supercharged version in the future, but the X-T1 will have to do until then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jonoslack View Post
    ... a few this morning, the colours are just lovely


    Moss and Frost

    I'm liking it more and more....
    As am I ... not going to compare it to my other cameras...it seems like all the RAW developers need to up their game a bit.


    Fuji X-T1



    Antique Show Monochromatic







    Antique Show Colors






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    A few around the house



    Fuji X-T1



    Just Lookin'







    Relections





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    One from this morning...


    Fuji X-T1



    Bouquet





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    Re: X-T1 first impressions...

    am in the process of making an L-plate for this camera and for the camera with vertical grip.

    since the fuji retains the main battery in the camera and adds a second one in the grip, anyone know which one gets used up first?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jlm View Post
    am in the process of making an L-plate for this camera and for the camera with vertical grip.

    since the fuji retains the main battery in the camera and adds a second one in the grip, anyone know which one gets used up first?
    According to the Fuji X-T1 manual grip battery is used first and then camera battery.

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    Evidence of spring....


    Fuji X-T1



    Dusting the light fixtures....





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    thx

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    Bob, some lovely stuff there, thanks for posting.
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    Well, I decided to go all in in my X-T1 experiment. I have been using the X-T1 with the 35mm and then adapted nikkors. I've decided to add the 14 and the 55-200.

    I've decided to run two system side by side as I have my EM-5 and lenses. I will do this until one wins out, or I decide to remain with both (a weird concept to me, but possible I guess).

    As some will surely relate (Jono probably ), the leading deciding factor ultimately was the differences in camera design between the EM-1 (which I would have been getting as my second camera) and the X-T1. I just kept going through all the setup you have to do with the EM-1 and the myriad configurations you have to do as opposed to the X-T1 where you can pretty much pick it up and shoot it.

    On the downside, I am still frequently annoyed by the record button and how easy it is to hit. I have lost shots due to not being able to set things quite as fast as I want, and the two features I really miss are IBIS and live view highlights/shadows as a configuration.

    So, the adventure continues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greypilgrim View Post
    .... I just kept going through all the setup you have to do with the EM-1 and the myriad configurations you have to do as opposed to the X-T1 where you can pretty much pick it up and shoot it.
    .

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    Complexe user interface is exactly my problem with most m43 (also the OMD which I currently own).
    The user interface of the XT1 would suit me better - seems I am one of those people who like it simple.

    Sensor of the A7 with the lens options of Fuji, the UI of the XT1, viewfinder from x-pro 1 and AF-speed of the EM1. Thats all I ask for Ahh-it should also take Leica lenses and have a rangefinder included
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    Is anyone using M lenses with the official adapter? I'm really interested in the process/button presses necessary to invoke zoom, peaking etc.

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    Mike, Yes I have the adaptor. I have the 35 Lux FLE, 50/.95 Nocti, 90/4 Macro. They all work great on the X-T1.

    Use is easy. Depends on what you have set for MF assist. I like the split image.

    If you are using no assist, just standard viewing - just look in the EVF focus based on the screen and go. If you want to magnify, then just press the focus assist button on the back.

    If you are using split image or peaking, flip the dial on the front of the camera to manual focus and this activates the assist mode. If you want to magnify, then just press the focus assist button on the back.

    To be honest, the Fuji glass is really good. I mainly bought the adaptor to use the 90/4 on it, since their is no equivalent yet in the Fuji line up. You won't be disappointed using Fuji glass or M glass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harmsr View Post
    Mike, Yes I have the adaptor. I have the 35 Lux FLE, 50/.95 Nocti, 90/4 Macro. They all work great on the X-T1.

    Use is easy. Depends on what you have set for MF assist. I like the split image.

    If you are using no assist, just standard viewing - just look in the EVF focus based on the screen and go. If you want to magnify, then just press the focus assist button on the back.

    If you are using split image or peaking, flip the dial on the front of the camera to manual focus and this activates the assist mode. If you want to magnify, then just press the focus assist button on the back.

    To be honest, the Fuji glass is really good. I mainly bought the adaptor to use the 90/4 on it, since their is no equivalent yet in the Fuji line up. You won't be disappointed using Fuji glass or M glass.

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    Thanks Ray, that helped a lot. So much so that I went and tried it for myself at my dealer's today.... and succumbed to temptation First impressions are excellent, and yes the 35/50 'luxes seem lovely and manual focussing is so much better than the Olympus I traded in....

    I just wish the front fn1 button could be assigned to focus assist; for me it falls much easier to hand than the rear button. Oh well, can't have everything!

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    ....and one of my first efforts, with the 50 Summilux at ISO 3200:



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    Hello. I've really enjoyed this thread. Thanks for sharing.
    Here's what is going on in my life. I'm a long time Nikon shooter, D800 and some lenses. A while ago I got a bug to try a smaller camera. I purchased an s100x. I really like the tiny Fuji. A camera that actually fits in my pocket(I take my camera everywhere, even the D800). The joy of having a camera that isn't always in the way... I love it.

    My favorite lens on the D800 is my 70-200. I just love 200mm @ f/2.8. I miss it. But when I leave the house the Fuji is in my hand. It's too convent.

    So. I've got a few "head shots" to do for work. When I'm done with them the Nikon is going to go. The X-T1 is starting to look good. The 56mm f/1.2 is very appealing. I'm really sold on the smaller form factor.

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    Monty, I'm a long-time Nikon shooter as well, but was an early adopter on the Fuji X cameras and now have an X-Pro1 and the XT-1. I love the 70-200 as well, and now I shoot it on my XT-1 with a Nikon to Fuji adapter. You might consider something like that. I have a commercial job this weekend where I plan to shoot the 300/2.8 and maybe even the 500/4 in the Fuji with the adapter. Could be fun!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lloyd View Post
    Monty, I'm a long-time Nikon shooter as well, but was an early adopter on the Fuji X cameras and now have an X-Pro1 and the XT-1. I love the 70-200 as well, and now I shoot it on my XT-1 with a Nikon to Fuji adapter. You might consider something like that. I have a commercial job this weekend where I plan to shoot the 300/2.8 and maybe even the 500/4 in the Fuji with the adapter. Could be fun!
    That 70-200 must look HUGE one the XT-1 and I'll bet you can't even see the camera with the 500mm on it

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    Well, it has begun. I'm making the switch.
    I just sold one of my Nikon lenses. The 14-24mm f/2.8

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    I am renting a X-T1 now from LensRentals and my first impression is not as upbeat as most who have posted here. I am finding the processing time to be longer than my NEX-7 and sometimes longer than my Sigma Merrills. I am using it with the grip plus extra battery and all batteries are charged. I will say I like the controls, but wish the 2 sec self timer mode stayed on after I turn it off, but it does not, thus making it have to be set each time I turn the camera back on. I do not think I will be purchasing one, but will stay tuned to whatever improvements may come about. I am thinking the next model will be better. The image quality is nice, but since shooting the Merrills, I think I got use to the sharpness from no AA filter and would like more towards that look, but the controls are the best I have used in small digital to date. Just my 2 cents.
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    Hi,

    I got the X-T1 with the kit lens and the images (IQ wise) are not even close to what I'm seeing in the samples thread. I'm trying to determine if it's the lens, the processing software or I just have a bad copy.

    All the images are extremely soft (like they are just out of focus) and applying clarity/sharpening techniques will improve them, but it's missing that right look (I don't like extra sharp images, but I don't want OOF one either ).

    I'm trying to figure out what's wrong since, obviously, good images can come out of the camera. All the images were shot in RAW and used LR (Adobe profile looked best compared with the film simulations). The JPEG (camera JPEG) looked better, but still not there. That makes me believe that the software has something to do with it. So, what software do you use for processing RAW? And (if anybody did a comparison) how big of a difference is between the kit lens and the prime ones?

    Thank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valentin View Post
    Hi,

    I got the X-T1 with the kit lens and the images (IQ wise) are not even close to what I'm seeing in the samples thread. I'm trying to determine if it's the lens, the processing software or I just have a bad copy.

    All the images are extremely soft (like they are just out of focus) and applying clarity/sharpening techniques will improve them, but it's missing that right look (I don't like extra sharp images, but I don't want OOF one either ).

    I'm trying to figure out what's wrong since, obviously, good images can come out of the camera. All the images were shot in RAW and used LR (Adobe profile looked best compared with the film simulations). The JPEG (camera JPEG) looked better, but still not there. That makes me believe that the software has something to do with it. So, what software do you use for processing RAW? And (if anybody did a comparison) how big of a difference is between the kit lens and the prime ones?

    Thank you.
    Hi - can I ask if you have stabilisation turned on? If so try turning it off and report back?

    Mike

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    Re: X-T1 first impressions...

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Woods View Post
    Hi - can I ask if you have stabilisation turned on? If so try turning it off and report back?

    Mike
    Hi Mike,

    Yes, the stabilization was on. I was so frustrated that I can't get a decent looking image that I returned it, so I can't try that anymore.

    I might get the camera body only and get another lens. Is there a walk around lens (zoom) that is decent?

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