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    X-T1 first impressions...

    I just got the X-T1 yesterday along with the 35/1.4, 18-55/2.8-4, 55-200/3.5-4.8 Fuji lenses and the adapters for Leica M and Nikon G lenses.

    First impressions? WOW! I love the build quality, small size, great manual controls, INCREDIBLE EVF (best ever), superb manual focusing aids, lightning speed (8 fps).

    I haven't had much time to pixel peep the files, but I find myself asking if this could take the place of both the Leica M and the Nikon D4 for most (not all) situations. I rarely print larger than 13x19.

    More impressions to come... please share yours too.

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    Re: X-T1 first impressions...

    Congratulations to your new X system!

    I would not speak for the Leica M as for Leica glass this is still the optimal solution, but for the D4 it could definitely take the place, as long as you are not shooting ultra fast action.

    Have fun

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    Re: X-T1 first impressions...

    Hi Peter. I am using Leica glass on it. The 50 ASPH lux is so sweet on this camera - effective 65mm f/1.4.
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    Re: X-T1 first impressions...

    Quote Originally Posted by bradhusick View Post
    Hi Peter. I am using Leica glass on it. The 50 ASPH lux is so sweet on this camera - effective 65mm f/1.4.
    That's nice to know! What software are you using to process files? I'm an LR user....

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    The beta 8.4 of Adobe DNG converter will make DNGs from our RAW files, then import to LR.
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    Re: X-T1 first impressions...

    quick size compare with leica m (50 ASPH on Fuji, Zeiss 35/2 on M)
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    Re: X-T1 first impressions...

    HI Brad
    I got mine yesterday - I'm also loving it, but I haven't got rid of my E-M1 just yet!
    I've just got the kit lens for now (and it is excellent).

    all the best

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonoslack View Post
    HI Brad
    I got mine yesterday - I'm also loving it, but I haven't got rid of my E-M1 just yet!
    I've just got the kit lens for now (and it is excellent).

    all the best
    Jono,
    How excellent? Worth it for someone who shoots mostly primes?

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    Re: X-T1 first impressions...

    Can anyone comment on focussing with M lenses? Is it a series of annoying button pushes to magnify, focus, return to main view, etc, etc, or does the M adapter make life easy?

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    What software are you all using. What works for raw files?

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    Re: X-T1 first impressions...

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Woods View Post
    Can anyone comment on focussing with M lenses? Is it a series of annoying button pushes to magnify, focus, return to main view, etc, etc, or does the M adapter make life easy?

    Mike
    Focusing with manual focus lenses is easy. You can choose from several ways the viewfinder displays aids (split image, overlay, side-by-side, peaking) and there is no fiddling to be done unless you want a different view during the shot.
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    Re: X-T1 first impressions...

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Woods View Post
    Can anyone comment on focussing with M lenses? Is it a series of annoying button pushes to magnify, focus, return to main view, etc, etc, or does the M adapter make life easy?

    Mike
    hi Mike
    there seems to be a focus assist button, but I don't have the M adapter (perhaps I should get it).

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    Re: X-T1 first impressions...

    Quote Originally Posted by aragdog View Post
    What software are you all using. What works for raw files?
    The beta 8.4 of Adobe DNG converter will make DNGs from our RAW files, then import to LR.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aragdog View Post
    What software are you all using. What works for raw files?
    Irridient Developer - excellent
    Release Canditate ACR from Adobe Labs - decent
    Convert to DNG using the release candidate DNG converter from Adobe Labs
    and then import into LR (these DNG files won't work in Capture One)
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    PhotoNinja which is not my favorite either

    If you have Photoshop CC the Adobe Camera Raw has a feature allowing you to use the Fuji film profiles when developing the RAF files (under Camera Calibration)
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    Re: X-T1 first impressions...

    Has anyone who owns both the X-Pro1 and the X-T1 noticed differences in image quality?

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    Brad,

    Since you also own a D4, I have some AF questions for you.

    How is the X-T1 for sport photography like kite boarding or surfing? The second area of question is concert photography with band members jumping about and rapidly moving around on stage. My Nikon D4 or even Df as a backup body do just fine with the 24-70/2.8 or 70-200/2.8 VRII. I've tried with the Sony A7/A7r cameras and they just can't do it.

    Can the X-T1 acquire and focus fast enough? Can it track accurately enough?

    Thanks,

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    Re: X-T1 first impressions...

    Hi Ray,

    That's my next test coming up this weekend - I will try shooting indoor lacrosse in bad lighting, trying to track the players as they come toward and away. It's an acid test for sports shooting. I will report back.
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    Thanks Brad. Honestly I'm considering get out of my Nikon system and want to find a smaller alternative. The only reason that my Nikon gear is still around is for this purpose.

    I have an X system which is fun and capable for a lot of my stuff, but the X-E2 is not up to the job on Kite Boarding or Concerts. I'm really loving the X glass, ergonomics, and controls. I find them much more intuitive than Sony. At the moment I have the 14, 23, 35, 56 (on pre-order), 18-55, 55-200. Great system when 16 MP is sufficient.

    For the Kite boarding and concerts, 16MP is fine as it is for web or up to full page magazine ads.

    Looking forward to hearing back how good the actual focus tracking of the X-T1 is.

    Thanks,

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    Hi guys,
    I had one in my hand yesterday and have to say I found it imediatly the best feeling mirrorless camera. Whit most other mirrorless I feel lost with all the buttons and menues. With the xt1 everything looks very easy and intuitive.
    Also the size seems just big enough that they dont feel like toy buttons like found on many smaller cameras.
    Built also feels excellent.

    When I had a x-pro 1 I was not totally convinced about the IQ compared to my M9 at that time. Images looked somewhat flatter and colors not so saturated. (I used LR at that time)

    So my questions: How do you guys think does the IQ compare to Leica M?

    Just some weeks ago I decided that mirrorless are not really for me and now Fuji presents such a sweet camera.

    Please keep all posting images and experience. Thanks!!! And have fun with your new cameras.

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    Hi Tom,

    the XT1 seems to be quite a intriguing camera!

    For comparison to the Leica M - well I would ask Jono, as he seems to have some issues with the XT1 so far - http://www.getdpi.com/forum/fuji/501...lp-please.html

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    Re: X-T1 first impressions...

    The Leica M will probably be superior.. full frame and awesome Leica glass... better bokeh, etc.. but bang for the buck the Fuji is hard to beat and then you have to remember the obvious when it comes to Leica: No AF, no zooms.... and the price.. which for most of us is the real deal-breaker.
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    Re: X-T1 first impressions...

    Quote Originally Posted by ptomsu View Post
    Hi Tom,

    the XT1 seems to be quite a intriguing camera!

    For comparison to the Leica M - well I would ask Jono, as he seems to have some issues with the XT1 so far - http://www.getdpi.com/forum/fuji/501...lp-please.html

    Peter
    I don't seem to be having Jono's problems - it's possible he got a defective camera (there are other issues with his). So far I am REALLY impressed with the X-T1. This weekend I put it to the action sports test.

    Later I will compare it to my Leica M240.
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    That would be a unique and hotly awaited event;
    Quote Originally Posted by bradhusick View Post
    ... I will try shooting indoor lacrosse in bad lighting, trying to track the players as they come toward and away. It's an acid test for sports shooting. I will report back.
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    Well it is finally not crappy weather here and this will get a workout for Mardi Gras. But as a user of a number of cameras, let me say that I am impressed with the quality of what I have bee shooting. With horrible weather the last few days all I have is a few friends and stuff like that, so when I get a chance I will post some stuff from Mardi Gras.

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    Re: X-T1 first impressions...

    Quote Originally Posted by bradhusick View Post
    Hi Peter. I am using Leica glass on it. The 50 ASPH lux is so sweet on this camera - effective 65mm f/1.4.
    Your math is incorrect.

    With an APS-C sensor the crop factor is 1.5 effectively making the 50mm lens have an angle of view of a 75mm lens on a full frame sensor, not your stated 65mm.

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    Re: X-T1 first impressions...

    Okay guys, I did the sports test. I wrote a short blurb about this that will probably appear on another site soon (will let you know when and where) but here's the summary...

    Don't sell your full size DSLRs. The X-T1 didn't keep up in indoor sports testing. The lens (55-200) is not fast enough to test the camera's capability in the indoor lighting I experienced.
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    Re: X-T1 first impressions...

    Hi Brad
    I'm not really surprised. I'm actually really enjoying the camera, the AF is pretty snappy and very accurate, quite good enough for most purposes, but sport still seems to be the territory of the traditional dSLR

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    Re: X-T1 first impressions...

    Quote Originally Posted by BlinkingEye View Post
    Your math is incorrect.

    With an APS-C sensor the crop factor is 1.5 effectively making the 50mm lens have an angle of view of a 75mm lens on a full frame sensor, not your stated 65mm.
    65 vs 75....probably a typo on Brad's part. I think most people here know that the crop factor on an APS-C sensor is usually (but not always) 1.5x. It is 1.6x for Canon APS-C sensors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bensonga View Post
    65 vs 75....probably a typo on Brad's part. I think most people here know that the crop factor on an APS-C sensor is usually (but not always) 1.5x. It is 1.6x for Canon APS-C sensors.

    Gary
    Actually the Canon 1D series was originally a 1.3 crop....so the 65 fits with his history....


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    Re: X-T1 first impressions...

    I stand corrected.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bradhusick View Post
    Okay guys, I did the sports test. I wrote a short blurb about this that will probably appear on another site soon (will let you know when and where) but here's the summary...

    Don't sell your full size DSLRs. The X-T1 didn't keep up in indoor sports testing. The lens (55-200) is not fast enough to test the camera's capability in the indoor lighting I experienced.
    If I had to guess the XT1 does well in daylight and some mild action sports. Indoors if the light is not too hot will be a challenge for any current CDAF camera. Seems like the PDAF sensors do not go too much "into the dark" and they have to resort to CDAF.

    I would imagine the new upcoming F2.8 constant zooms will help a little, maybe they are designed to focus fast though they are bigger lenses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by docmoore View Post
    Actually the Canon 1D series was originally a 1.3 crop....so the 65 fits with his history....
    Like it matters.....
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    Point taken. I'll try not to make assumptions again about what is common knowledge and what isn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bensonga View Post
    Point taken. I'll try not to make assumptions again about what is common knowledge and what isn't.

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    Gary,

    No criticism intended...just that I had the original 1D and loved it so the history is part of my current DNA....

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    Re: X-T1 first impressions...

    Yup, the 1D series is one of my favorites too Bob.....I have a 1D Mark II. Shot with it yesterday in fact. It was my backup cam to a new 1DX (a loaner from Canon). More often than not, I was reaching for the 1D2. Only 8 megapixels, but I swear they are some of the nicest pixels ever made. Many aspects of the 1D2 are quite outdated, but the images still shine. I wish Canon still made a APS-H pro body....or that the prices of a clean 1D Mark IV would fall a bit lower.

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    I'm in... Tried the camera at the store, and fell for it. a7 is gone...it has superior iq and ff, but nearly everything else favors Fuji. I will manage to figure my way around any iq issues.
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    Re: X-T1 first impressions...

    I took a few shots with my XT1 and 55-200mm lens today. I bought the XT1 mainly for the vertical grip and weather proofing. With the relatively large 55-200mm lens, the XT1 and vertical grip is a very comfortable combination to use. I certainly agree with Brad....the build quality is excellent. The size of the camera with the vertical grip attached is perfect for me. I prefer it to the XE-1/2.

    It's so good, I might even sell my XE-1 now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ashwinrao1 View Post
    I'm in... Tried the camera at the store, and fell for it. a7 is gone...it has superior iq and ff, but nearly everything else favors Fuji. I will manage to figure my way around any iq issues.
    So what sold you on the XT1? Have you used the XT1 in low light? There are things I really like about the Fuji system, and I haven't sent the XT1 back yet, but the low light performance and iq relative to the A7r or RX1r left me wanting.

    If you like manual controls dials I can see that as a major plus - certainly is a polar opposite of the Sony.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ashwinrao1 View Post
    I'm in... Tried the camera at the store, and fell for it. a7 is gone...it has superior iq and ff, but nearly everything else favors Fuji. I will manage to figure my way around any iq issues.


    Woooo Hooo, On Ya Ashwin.
    And I thought after the recent posts this was the last thing you'd do.
    All I have to do is NOT look at one in store myself then, stick with the X-Pro instead.
    Lovely lenses though, love them.
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    Re: X-T1 first impressions...

    Brad, I don't have the XT-1 myself (yet), but am considering adding one to my existing X-Pro 1 setup, and appreciated your tests on the camera. Just one question, have you put the XT-1 into the "high performance" mode? - which apparently speeds up focus as well as a number of other things at the expense of battery life, which may be a price worth paying in some situations. I don't expect it to help in low light fast moving indoor sports however where the camera will probably be working on contrast detect AF rather than PDAF. Hopefully future faster zooms will help a little too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ashwinrao1 View Post
    I'm in... Tried the camera at the store, and fell for it. a7 is gone...it has superior iq and ff, but nearly everything else favors Fuji. I will manage to figure my way around any iq issues.
    Resistance is very hard, perhaps my X-Pro 1 is getting a little lonely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by docmoore View Post
    Actually the Canon 1D series was originally a 1.3 crop....so the 65 fits with his history....

    Bob
    Actually, Gary is right Bob APS-C is usually 1.5X (although Canon defined it as 1.6X).

    The 1.3X crop is APS-H designation, used in Canon's 1D series.

    The Leica M8 camera also used a 1.33X sensor (Kodak KAF-10500).



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    Quote Originally Posted by ashwinrao1 View Post
    I'm in... Tried the camera at the store, and fell for it. a7 is gone...it has superior iq and ff, but nearly everything else favors Fuji. I will manage to figure my way around any iq issues.
    Mine is on the way....

    I downloaded the most recent beta version of RPP, purchased AccuRaw, and just about purchased Aperture after seeing Jono's Garlic Bulb pic....need to play a bit with C1 .... used EXIFtool to change the EXIF to try it....

    SO as you explore the Post Process with the X's let us know if anything really stands out.

    Thanks,

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    Re: X-T1 first impressions...

    Quote Originally Posted by ashwinrao1 View Post
    I'm in... Tried the camera at the store, and fell for it. a7 is gone...it has superior iq and ff, but nearly everything else favors Fuji. I will manage to figure my way around any iq issues.
    HAH!
    Welcome Ashwin
    You're more precipitate than me (I still have my A7 and an E-M1), I'm planning to make a final decision by the end of the month when the Fuji special deals in the UK run out.

    No doubt the ergonomics of the Fuji have me sold. Love to see all that stuff at a glance.

    Which lenses?

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    Re: X-T1 first impressions...

    Never made the switch to the A7 even though the files looks great the handling didn't seem to suit me (admittedly from a very short test one day). My last try at Fuji (X100 and an early EX-1) left me frustrated in its speed) and my E-M1 takes such good pictures and handles so well that I am thinking about selling my 5D3.

    What makes this one (XT-1) special enough to make the switch or even to be a second system? I have read the forum comments but I haven't seen one in person. I too suffer from GAS but I am taking medication now and that helps.

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    I too suffer from GAS but I am taking medication now and that helps.

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    Could you please forward me your prescription

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    I've had mine for a week now, and I'm more than happy with it. So far I've been processing the Raw files with the beta ACR 8.4, and the results are excellent. I haven't shot anything landscape, or anything with grass or leaves (there not being many or any visible just now), so I can replicate the issues Jono reported. I love the EVF, truly forget at times I'm not looking through an SLR viewfinder. I also surprised myself by liking the articulating screen on the back. I didn't think I cared about it, but I've used it a few times, and been happy I had it. So far, I've shot with the 35/1.4, the 18-55, the Zeiss 12mm (which literally sings on this camera), and a few M and CV lenses with the Fuji M-mount adapter. Love especially the CV 75. I have a Nikon adapter, but haven't tried any Nikon lenses so far. I am looking forward to C1's update for the X-T1, as well as Lightroom's. All in all, so far, I am beyond delighted.
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    Re: X-T1 first impressions...

    Quote Originally Posted by JMaher View Post

    What makes this one (XT-1) special enough to make the switch or even to be a second system? I have read the forum comments but I haven't seen one in person. I too suffer from GAS but I am taking medication now and that helps.

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    HI There Jim
    Well, hmm, what I like against the E-M1 is:
    3:2 format
    colour of images
    knobs and dials showing what they do - great to be able to see ISO, shutter, aperture (if there's a dial), exposure compensation, metering mode and single/continuous all on controls on the top screen.

    Smaller (slightly)

    . . .erm . . . . that's about it really!

    I certainly haven't decided which to keep yet, but at least it's some kind of a contest.

    All the best

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    Re: X-T1 first impressions...

    Thanks to Lloyd and Jono for your comments and observations. I really guess I need to find a way to see/touch one in person.

    The 3:2 format would be welcome as well as visible settings.

    What about image stabilization? That seems to be lacking in the camera body and while I never thought it mattered for short lenses I find I was wrong and that equivalent 35's and 50's, etc. seem to benefit from the in camera stabilization on the EM-1 (or maybe as I get older I benefit from stabilization).

    Jono - will be very interested to see what you decide.

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    Re: X-T1 first impressions...

    I've just run a comparison looking at sharpness between the XT1, my Nex6 and Leica M using my Summilux 50. All look good with the M being noticeably better and the XT1 and Nex being quite comparable. However, I'm disappointed in the sharpness of the 18-55 lens. It is softer than the plastic Sony 16-50. What are others experiencing with IQ using the 18-55? Satisfied or not? Have I just got a bad copy?

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    Re: X-T1 first impressions...

    Quote Originally Posted by jonoslack View Post
    HAH!
    Welcome Ashwin
    You're more precipitate than me (I still have my A7 and an E-M1), I'm planning to make a final decision by the end of the month when the Fuji special deals in the UK run out.

    No doubt the ergonomics of the Fuji have me sold. Love to see all that stuff at a glance.

    Which lenses?
    Thanks, Jono. Unfortunately, I have had a hiccup, as my camera appears to be dead on arrival...at least the rear LCD...

    That being said, I am hoping to have my camera store replace it, since I didn't shoot any more than 30 frames with it last night....

    My kit, as I see it, will be:
    14 mm f/2.8
    23 mm f/1.4
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    I doubt I'd need anything else...
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