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Mike, just to reiterate - the reason the official Fuji adapter has a compatibility list is because of the reduced diameter/depth due to the electrical contacts for the function button. To use lenses like the 35mm f/1.2 or f/1.4 Noktons you need a non-electronic, non-close focusing adapter.

I'll probably look at an alternative to the Fuji because of this. I want my f/1.2!
 

Double Negative

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Oh, happy day! I tested the Fujifilm M Adapter with three lenses that were not on the compatibility list, which worried me...

I verified that the 35mm f/1.2 Nokton definitely won't fit. Bummer! But...

The 21mm f/1.8 Ultron, Summicron-M 28mm f/2 ASPH and Noctilux-M 50mm f/0.95 ASPH all do! Woohoo! I got scared with the Noct at first, as the rear element is larger than the throat of the adapter... But thanks to the magic of having a crop sensor... Guess what? It don't matter! The Cron was a tight fit - it JUST fits, but works a treat! :D

But I think the coolest lens might just be the C Sonnar 1,5/50 ZM! For once I can actually see where it's REALLY focusing. Might just become my favorite lens on this puppy...
 

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Manual focusing with this camera is really sweet. Not only can you see your exposure/DoF in realtime (WYSIWYG), but you can also use a polarizer "the normal way" without the Rube Goldberg contraption (Leica Universal Polarizer). Very nice to have peaking, split image and general "ground glass" focusing with instant magnification. Oh, man.

I knew I save that 46mm polarizer all these years for something. :p
 

D&A

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I'm strongly considering the X-T1 to supplement my M9. I'd be using the majority of my M mount lenses with the Fuji adapter but am curious to know which Fuji lenses with a effective focal length wider than 21mm (in full frame 35mm terms) and longer than 135mm (in full frame 35mm terms) have an excellent reputation for excellent optical performance?

A second question I have is whether your Leica 135mm f4 lens, which is the same version as mine, works baa nd fits properly with the Fuji M adapter?

Before I start a specific thread for these questions, thought I'd ask here first. Thanks.

Dave (D&A)
 
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GrahamWelland

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... curious to know which Fuji lenses with a effective focal length wider than 21mm (in full frame 35mm terms) and longer than 135mm (in full frame 35mm terms) have an excellent reputation for excellent optical performance?

...

Before I start a specific thread for these questions, thought I'd ask here first. Thanks.

Dave (D&A)
Dave,

The answer here is simple. The Fuji 14mm is excellent and it's partner zoom 10-24 is a stalwart part of my Fuji arsenal. I use the 14mm mostly for IR now that I have the zoom but that's not a reflection of its quality.

For longer than 135mm equivalent there is only the 55-200 zoom which also turns in great results. It's sharp but not a match for the Nikon 70-200/2.8 or /4 but very close in real world use.

I found myself using the zeiss 85/4 on the Fuji adapter. If I still had it I'd definitely use the 90 elmarit-m. The zeiss is stronger IMHO than the Fuji zoom but the zoom wins for convenience. It also works well for IR too.
 

D&A

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Dave,

The answer here is simple. The Fuji 14mm is excellent and it's partner zoom 10-24 is a stalwart part of my Fuji arsenal. I use the 14mm mostly for IR now that I have the zoom but that's not a reflection of its quality.

For longer than 135mm equivalent there is only the 55-200 zoom which also turns in great results. It's sharp but not a match for the Nikon 70-200/2.8 or /4 but very close in real world use.

I found myself using the zeiss 85/4 on the Fuji adapter. If I still had it I'd definitely use the 90 elmarit-m. The zeiss is stronger IMHO than the Fuji zoom but the zoom wins for convenience. It also works well for IR too.
Graham,

Thanks thats great info! Optically speaking (aside from lens speed), how would you compare output of the Fuji 14mm vs. the 10-24 zoom. I might assume that the zoom has more distortion than the fixed lens but in additon, how does resolution compare.

I own the Leica 90mm AA (used to have the Elmarit-M). When I looked at Fuji's list of compatible M lenses with their M adapter, the 90mm AA wasn't listed. I wonder if that lens works with the adapter? If it does, my intent would be the 14mm or 10-24 zoom (most likely), fixed M mount lenses up to 135mm (Leica, Zeiss and/or Voigtlander) and guess the only choice after 135mm is the Fuji 55-200 zoom. Decisions, decisions.

Dave (D&A)
 

Shashin

Well-known member
I too don't want to get into another system...
Now, how is the economy going to grow with this, if I might say so, defeatist thinking. You are not getting a new system, but a new lens accessory for your M system. Even the most economically minded spouse might fall for that.
 

D&A

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Now, how is the economy going to grow with this, if I might say so, defeatist thinking. You are not getting a new system, but a new lens accessory for your M system. Even the most economically minded spouse might fall for that.
That's exactly how I'm looking at this...it's an accessory to my M system whereby I hope to primarily use my M mount lenses and possibly use the Fuji primarily for B&W imagery.

Problem is the more I read and hear, the more it's apparent that the system is well designed for it's well regarded Af lenses, color output too. Something tells me I'll be drawn to purchasing more and more Fuji lenses for the body and then I'm back to my original thinking of "I don't want to invest in another system". The Nikon stays of course for it's ability to use telephoto and super telephoto's. Apparently the Fuji presently tops out at 200mm (yes, I know to take into account the APS crop).

Dave (D&A)
 

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That's my angle too; an accessory for the M lenses. But I'm weakening... I picked up the vertical grip and another battery! Makes holding the Noctilux-fitted Fuji much nicer. :)

It's also a bit stunning. I now have my 1D Mark IIn and 24-70mm f/2.8 rig in a tiny, diminutive size. It's so small and light! And leaps ahead in technology. Loooove.

Dave, the 135 works atreat! I've got a growing thread of sample photos with M lenses in: Sample Photos - M Lenses on Fuji X Cameras. I plan to write an extensive article on the experience, options, etc.

Wide angles is one thing, like with all crop cameras, that you'll have to bite the bullet. Since no 10mm M lens exists... If you want wide, the 10-24 zoom is where it's at. I'm teetering on picking one up eventually for that reason.
 

D&A

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Thanks Michael! I can see where this is all leading to (for myself), and that's what I was afraid of. It starts as an adjunct to the M9 and slowly becomes a whole system unto itself. If it had an option for something longer than 200mm (other than something like a "R" lens adapter with a "R" lens telephoto"), I'd probably introduce it into my workflow for some of the work I do. As it is, all I initially wanted was an extra body for M lenses with some versitility but as you say, there is little choice on the wide end for M lenses.

I have to look at the list of accepted lenses, but I believe the VC 15mm M mount lens is a "no go" with the Fuji M adapter?

Dave (D&A)
 

Double Negative

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The Leica 135mm makes for a nice 205mm on the Fuji. Failing that, yes - an R lens with appropriate adapter would work also. FWIW, the 55-200mm zoom is relatively cheap (cheaper than an R lens and adapter) and might be the way to go; bonus is AF and OIS.

The "compatibility list" for the Fuji M Mount Adapter is accurate - but misleading. It's not that the lens is incompatible with the camera... It's incompatible with the adapter. The issue is that the Fuji adapter has a really neat function button which brings up the lens focal length settings (and corrections). If you change lenses often, this is a very nice feature, as otherwise the settings are down in the menus. I hope Fuji allows us to assign this to a normal function button with a firmware update! But anyway, the reason for the incompatibility is this feature requires electrical contacts between the adapter and body and this narrows the throat (and depth available) within - and some lenses are just too fat or too deep to work with it.

The workaround is a Metabones, Novoflex or other adapter that lacks these contacts. I'm tempted to pick one up JUST for the CV 35mm f/1.2 Nokton. But like I said, you'll be setting the focal length in the menus with these...

UPDATE: I updated ACR from 7.1 to 8.4 (for CS6) and this made a world of difference. For one, no more DNG Convertor to go from RAF->DNG. Bridge/Photoshop now groks the RAF files directly. Furthermore, the Fuji film simulations are available as a drop-down (yay!). And, I do believe the resulting images are a bit sharper. I'm currently going back to previously processed files and comparing... FWIW, LR 5.4 can do this as it seems to have a separate ACR. But I'm a Bridge/Photoshop kinda guy. ;)
 

D&A

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Thanks again Michael,

I too am in same boat wanting to use my VC 35mm f1.2 on this camera. You may have missed my question above, but do you know if the VC 15mm (M mount version) is on the list of usable lenses with the Fuji M adapter?

Yes, I realize why there is the compatibility issue with the electrical contacts in the Fuji M adapter with certain M lenses. I thought I read that the VC 15mm screw mt lens (with M adapter) was a no-go but thought maybe the VC 15mm M mount lens does work with the Fuji M adapter?

On the long end, I need something longer than 200mm (angle of view of 300mm on the XT-1) but short of an R lens with adapter, I'm not certain if there is any other way to go. Still all in all, it's getting close to my expectations.

Dave (D&A)
 

bradhusick

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according to the rumors there will be a fuji 120mm-400mm lens by the end of 2014. (35mm focal length of 180-600mm)

in the mean time, there are lens adapters for canon and nikon lenses too, so there are lots of choices.
 

Double Negative

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Yes, as Brad mentions there's a super zoom due near the end of the year; I suspect it will also be weather-sealed as most from this point on will be. Personally, the upcoming 16-55mm f/2.8 is on my short list to replace the 18-55mm f/2.8-4. But I digress...

As for the CV 15mm, according to the official chart it appears the LTM version is, but no listing for the M mount version (if I read the "1" correctly to mean "first version"). Could just mean that Fuji hasn't tried it and thus it's not listed. Otherwise it would say either way. I don't have one, so I can't say. I do know the Zeiss 4/18 Distagon ZM works well, FWIW.
 

MCTuomey

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It's also a bit stunning. I now have my 1D Mark IIn and 24-70mm f/2.8 rig in a tiny, diminutive size. It's so small and light! And leaps ahead in technology. Loooove.
+1 When I compare equivalent FLs (56/1.2 v 85L, 35/1.4 v 50L), taking into account the decent AF and much lighter weight of the x-t1, fuji is a great all-round alternative to my prime and short-range zoom Canon gear. Canon output may be better in some respects, but I'd be kidding myself and my modest skills if I said the fuji files aren't more than good enough.

Canon becomes for me a specialist kit for TSE, MPE, and super tele use.
 

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+1 When I compare equivalent FLs (56/1.2 v 85L, 35/1.4 v 50L), taking into account the decent AF and much lighter weight of the x-t1, fuji is a great all-round alternative to my prime and short-range zoom Canon gear. Canon output may be better in some respects, but I'd be kidding myself and my modest skills if I said the fuji files aren't more than good enough.

Canon becomes for me a specialist kit for TSE, MPE, and super tele use.
Exactly! Honestly, I'm not convinced the Canon files are that much better. And even if they were, I'm not in ANY rush to schlepp all that crap around again. The lack of an AA filter on the Fuji goes a long, long way.

I have a ton of L lenses. They're quite decent and I'm fond of them. But my beef with Canon is I just don't care for their bodies anymore. I've been waiting for a 1Ds Mark IV or 5D Mark IV for what seems like forever. The current offerings just don't do it for me (the 5D is a bit too consumerish, the 1Dx too damn expensive). And in the end, we still have the weight/size issue.

I'm solidly in the RF camp again since 2008; but this lil' Fuji is giving me back what I miss from the DSLR days. Best part is, I can share lenses and not have to carry yet more stuff. Works for me. :thumbup:

If things keep working out with the Fuji, I'm very likely to have a Canon fire sale.
 

D&A

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according to the rumors there will be a fuji 120mm-400mm lens by the end of 2014. (35mm focal length of 180-600mm)

in the mean time, there are lens adapters for canon and nikon lenses too, so there are lots of choices.
Thanks Brad. That upcoming 120-400 may tip the balance for me in favor of the Fuji over the (my) Nikon for most uses and as Michael says, being able to use the M with M lenses along side of the Fuji is a big plus. I especially like the myriad of focusing aids available when using manual focus lenses...that in itself in a bug advantage. Thanks everyone for all the suggests and input.

Dave (D&A)
 

Steve P.

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Thanks again Michael,

I too am in same boat wanting to use my VC 35mm f1.2 on this camera. You may have missed my question above, but do you know if the VC 15mm (M mount version) is on the list of usable lenses with the Fuji M adapter?

Yes, I realize why there is the compatibility issue with the electrical contacts in the Fuji M adapter with certain M lenses. I thought I read that the VC 15mm screw mt lens (with M adapter) was a no-go but thought maybe the VC 15mm M mount lens does work with the Fuji M adapter?

On the long end, I need something longer than 200mm (angle of view of 300mm on the XT-1) but short of an R lens with adapter, I'm not certain if there is any other way to go. Still all in all, it's getting close to my expectations.

Dave (D&A)
Over on fujixseries.com in the x-pro 1 section there's a thread from July 2013 entitled "Voightlander 15mm f4.5" which contains info including how the lens performs with Novoflex and Fuji adapters. So it appears the VM15 is usable with the Fujifilm M adapter. How well is another question. There are some images to look at though.
 
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