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The Mirrorless Endgame ...

ptomsu

Workshop Member
So my bottom line point is that having some data on banding and noise when lifting the shadows can be useful to know, ETTR of very high DR scenes can give very underexposed shadows, but for me it's not an issue to choose between camera A and B.
But for me it is rather an issue if AF and AFC is inferior when I choose between camera A or B :) On top of that all these "specialist" reviews on youtube cannot replicate what I really want from a camera - at least this is what I find meanwhile consistently. I guess most reviewers trim their reviews to the needs and desires of the big mass - which I obviously am not part of - or maybe no longer am part of :cool:

On the end of my complaints about reviewers I should mention that I absolutely love what Fuji did with the GFX100 and I applaud them for taking this absolute leadership role. At least they convinced me if I am not going Nikon or Panasonic FF to go Fuji with their X system and later add some of their MFD cameras - maybe a GFX100 in some years as soon as the price comes down when the GFX200 arrives :ROTFL:
 

pegelli

Well-known member
But for me it is rather an issue if AF and AFC is inferior when I choose between camera A or B :)
For me that's also not too important, for most of my shooting even MF works well so AF capabilities also have not been a deciding factor.

I just started with a brand (Konica Minolta at the time, later taken over by Sony) and just stayed with it, slowly upgrading as lower cost 2nd hand models became available from people who exchanged these for the "latest and greatest". So far that strategy served me well, but I understand different people have different needs.
 

iiiNelson

Well-known member
But for me it is rather an issue if AF and AFC is inferior when I choose between camera A or B :) On top of that all these "specialist" reviews on youtube cannot replicate what I really want from a camera - at least this is what I find meanwhile consistently. I guess most reviewers trim their reviews to the needs and desires of the big mass - which I obviously am not part of - or maybe no longer am part of :cool:

On the end of my complaints about reviewers I should mention that I absolutely love what Fuji did with the GFX100 and I applaud them for taking this absolute leadership role. At least they convinced me if I am not going Nikon or Panasonic FF to go Fuji with their X system and later add some of their MFD cameras - maybe a GFX100 in some years as soon as the price comes down when the GFX200 arrives :ROTFL:
I think if continuous AF is the most important factor then go A9 or wait on the next generation pro cameras from everyone else. Pretty much everything else is going to be something of a compromise as it applies to the best AF performance. Now if that level of AF performance isn’t necessary then pretty much any camera will work for most people... when it comes to photography. When you throw video in the mix then it’s a bit more complicated.
 

Knorp

Well-known member
:OT: On doctor's advice: Sitting on a fence for a extended period of time while denying G.A.S. is not good for your well-being: makes you grumpy ... :rolleyes: :p :grin:

:chug:​

:watch:
 

k-hawinkler

Well-known member
I think if continuous AF is the most important factor then go A9 or wait on the next generation pro cameras from everyone else. Pretty much everything else is going to be something of a compromise as it applies to the best AF performance. Now if that level of AF performance isn’t necessary then pretty much any camera will work for most people... when it comes to photography. When you throw video in the mix then it’s a bit more complicated.
Thanks Tre for your confidence in the Sony A9! :clap:
Second to none for the subject areas it was built for! :thumbs: :grin:
 

algrove

Well-known member
:grin:
:OT: On doctor's advice: Sitting on a fence for a extended period of time while denying G.A.S. is not good for your well-being: makes you grumpy ... :rolleyes: :p :grin:

:chug:​

:watch:
Assume you mean as one might say in the USA---S--t or get off the Pot!
:grin:
 
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algrove

Well-known member
Been reading the 50 HB threads and I now remember Fuji displayed some prototypes and one was a square camera which reminded me of the old HB SWC and other square like designs.

It sure would be interesting to see Fuji release a 100MP sensor in a square format say 33x33 which would approximate 80MP. If it had a flip LCD and a clip on EVF like the 100MP that would even be better and an additional way to gain economies of scale with the 100MP sensor.

Anyone heard anything about the square body they showed a few months ago at a PR event?
 

iiiNelson

Well-known member
Thanks Tre for your confidence in the Sony A9! :clap:
Second to none for the subject areas it was built for! :thumbs: :grin:
Kinda hard to ignore the performance. I’m awaiting what comes from the next versions. I’m hoping they find a way to increase the DR, add a faster mechanical shutter, maybe throw in their “Venice Color Science” across the board since some seem happy with it for SOOC jpeg, and I’m still hoping for a slightly bigger body (about XH1 sized) since they’re releasing all of them long telephoto lenses. If we get that then I’d probably buy a couple to replace my A7RII, A7R, and A7.
 

Knorp

Well-known member
Thanks Bart. That’s good, no?
We should see more feedback and reviews now.
My 50S is working so well, I don’t mind ordering the GFX100 a bit later.
After the initial rush, hopefully any surprise issues are resolved by then. :grin:
And what’s more: the price may drop ... :lecture:
 

Stuart Richardson

Active member
Looks fantastic. Looking at the comparisons, I would still give the Phase One IQ180 the nod in terms of color...but without seeing the scene it is hard to tell which is more accurate. But the Phase has a bit more saturation and apparent nuance in color. Still, I would take the Fuji over it for my use...a trichromatic or 150mp back...well, all else being equal I will take the Phase. Of course, they are not equal, which is what makes Fuji so interesting.
 
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