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    FS Leica 35 mm lux Asph I

    I have decided to sell my Mint Leica 35mm summilux black asph I. Box and everything when it came new. Glass is Mint and so is the body. It is not 6 bit coded.

    Just got back from First USA Leica M9 workshop today. Here are the pictures of the 35m Lux ASPH. I did not take picture of box but it is MINT also.

    Selling for $4000 plus shipping and paypal.


    Thanks for looking
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    I just updated the post with photos. Price is firm.

    Thanks for looking.

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    Re: FS Leica 35 mm lux Asph I

    Accurate focus wide open? At all f-stops?

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    Re: FS Leica 35 mm lux Asph I

    Quote Originally Posted by NB23 View Post
    Accurate focus wide open? At all f-stops?
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    Re: FS Leica 35 mm lux Asph I

    Firstly, your views on the noctilux f1 are erroneous. They don't match my sample at all.
    Secondly, my 35 lux sample doesn't show any focus shift and is perfectly accurate wide open.

    And since you strongly insist on sounding like you are Leica's chief lens designer, maybe you can explain why my lenses behave so nicely?

    Many of my friends who have tried my sample are looking for one (hence this post). They expect this lens to be accurate at all f-stops as per their experience. They, like me, refuse to base their knowledge on a few internet myths.

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    Re: FS Leica 35 mm lux Asph I

    And no, this is not why Leica released a Version II. Come on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NB23 View Post
    Firstly, your views on the noctilux f1 are erroneous. They don't match my sample at all.
    Secondly, my 35 lux sample doesn't show any focus shift and is perfectly accurate wide open.

    And since you strongly insist on sounding like you are Leica's chief lens designer, maybe you can explain why my lenses behave so nicely?

    Many of my friends who have tried my sample are looking for one (hence this post). They expect this lens to be accurate at all f-stops as per their experience. They, like me, refuse to base their knowledge on a few internet myths.
    Are you actually addressing me? Seems like you really have an issue with my opinions. Thats perfectly ok with me, but I do feel for 'you' - you seem very agitated and distraught as if I have disrespected you personally.

    Hopefully you'll feel differently in the morning. Cheers

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    Re: FS Leica 35 mm lux Asph I

    Quote Originally Posted by leicashot View Post
    Realistically, that is not really possible, especially so with this lens. There are definitely good not so good bodies around but keep in mind that with digital its very easy to see when things aren't 100% right, compared to film.

    That's why Leica released the new II version to combat focus shifts. Personally when I compared the version I and II, I preferred the older version.

    Anyway sorry to intrude, and good luck with the sale. Seems you're selling off all your great lenses.
    I have to disagree. My 35 lux Asph I does not show focus shift and it focuses accurately at any aperture settings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glycine View Post
    I have to disagree. My 35 lux Asph I does not show focus shift and it focuses accurately at any aperture settings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by leicashot View Post
    Thank you for disagreeing respectfully. I myself owned a couple of these lenses without 'noticeable' problems, so I do agree with you so now I bow in defeat
    The focus shift issue might be existing in some copies but not all. I have owned 3 so far and none of them had focus shift issue. However, I did notice focus shift on other M mount lenses. Again, it might just be copy variation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glycine View Post
    The focus shift issue might be existing in some copies but not all. I have owned 3 so far and none of them had focus shift issue. However, I did notice focus shift on other M mount lenses. Again, it might just be copy variation.
    comments deleted in respect for seller. I suggest other do the same with the quotations. Mods/OP, sorry for posting.

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    Re: FS Leica 35 mm lux Asph I

    Hello and thanks for the conversations. I just added some photos from the Leica Workshop. 15 our us got to use M9s, Noct, 21 Lux and all the lens including the 35mm Lux asph II. Ebe the Leica rep as well as Smith the instructor checked our lens if we requested. it is so interesting that comments on focus shifts, bokeh, contrasts and sharpness etc... And you know what? They have no concerns about all this. They use equiptment to get the job done. They cannot tell if there was focus shift from my lens vs the new 35 Lux. we shot wide open, closed down to f11( bright day in santa barbara. They said why upgrade to Lux II when the difference is less than 10% in terms of sharpness and they taught us zone focus and sharpness is over rated says the instructors. the sample images are not all sharp, some grainy an some is low saturation and some no details in shadows. They are more concern wth blown highlights and let the shadows go detailess. They do not fill in the shadows to lower the contrasts. We went thru workflow, lightroom and they do minimum editing so the vision is more important that post edit. i learn a lot and ordered the noct and some other stuff. Just enjoy our photography. hope you enjoy the shots.

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    Re: FS Leica 35 mm lux Asph I

    Well done Kebebe. The newer model, at least in my comparative tests was not 10% sharper, not even 1%. They were identical in sharpness, but there were other differences, most in favor of the lens you're selling. The biggest difference was that the newer version seemed to have more depth of field wide open, whereas the version 1 seemed to isolate better. This is possibly due to the zone of focus, being placed slightly more in front with the version 1, but who knows for sure? Certainly not me ;-)

    It's a great lens and if only I had the $$$ to help you on your way to the Noct. Question though....why are you selling this sweet lens?

    PS: Sorry for the chat above...

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    Quote Originally Posted by leicashot View Post
    Well done Kebebe. The newer model, at least in my comparative tests was not 10% sharper, not even 1%. They were identical in sharpness, but there were other differences, most in favor of the lens you're selling. The biggest difference was that the newer version seemed to have more depth of field wide open, whereas the version 1 seemed to isolate better. This is possibly due to the zone of focus, being placed slightly more in front with the version 1, but who knows for sure? Certainly not me ;-)

    It's a great lens and if only I had the $$$ to help you on your way to the Noct. Question though....why are you selling this sweet lens?

    PS: Sorry for the chat above...
    The reason for selling is to get the version II, I guess.
    Kebebe is a perfectionist.

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    I don't know. I regret selling the noct f1 60mm. The guys at the workshop was from diversed background with only one student photographer. The rest is like me blowing money to enjoy our hobby, but we are loving it. They say don't sell any lens. I use to not sell and recently was convinced by some members that i should upgrade to modern look. i feel there is no right look, just how we feel at the point of vision. Maybe i pull the sale off. I got several people wanting to do different ways to send me money. Wire, bank deposit paypal, cashiers checks. Mailing to US and over the ocean. Maybe need to find money from somewhere to buy new stuff. The Asian guy with dark shirt has a Noct like my sold one and he said why sell it? He came from 4 generation of Leica shooters. Many students had their M9 and lens and we take turn try all the lens. Too bad they did not have the new 21mm f3.8. I better think carefully since they checked focus at 45% at min distance with a magifier on the viewfinder on a test and cannot tell much shift. True the DOF of the older 35:Lux drop of more gradual and the edge contrast( not sharpness) pop more on the new lens. I should correct myself that the new lens is not 10% sharper, rather the contrast create an impression of that. I guess i am learning. We can always post edit to get more contrast that many of us do anyway. Bill, the guest instructor( we had 2 beside Ebe the rep) work at Brooks school showed us images from digital that look like film instead of pixel peeping types some off us sometimes try to accomplish. I learn that images don't have to be looking the same each time we shoot and post ed and to change our vision the moment how we want the image to look. Does this make any sense?

    So I should keep the 35mm Lux II?

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    You guys got me going. I mean keep Lux I and pop extra cash for LuxIi? Hell, I have 7 35mm Leica lens now. How many more do i need?

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    Re: FS Leica 35 mm lux Asph I

    If your Lux 1 is working perfectly, then you're not going to be missing anything from the version 2.

    Leica photography is like a sick drug. Instead of focusing on improving PICTURES, they end up focusing more on improving the files. The best photographers I know do not shot Leica, and the best Leica photographers I know don't care about having the latest and 'best' Leica lenses. They are focused more on the pictures, than anything else, although without people doing this, the company probably would not exist today.

    At the end of the day, do what you enjoy. If that means going and over-analyzing your images/files, as apposed to analyzing how you can improve your photography, then just do it...change and upgrade as you will. There are hobbyists that care about photography first and then there are those who care about equipment first. Either way, as long as your happy, do what you need to do.

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    Glycine should I sell? Anyone else? Should I sell? Please comment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kebebe View Post
    Glycine should I sell? Anyone else? Should I sell? Please comment.
    Honestly, you need to make the decision on your own. if you have money to burn, then you'll lose nothing but money by upgrading. But you 'may' gain piece of mind. Neither lens will take better pictures, only YOU can do that (hint, hint)

    I'm not sure how great your work is, but maybe you could focus more attention on improving your photography....thats my final advice, should that matter.

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    The lens are way better than my photography. Sharper lens and higher resolutions files are lost if i miss focus. Maybe I need to upgrade my eyes first, haha

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    "The best photographers I know do not shot Leica, and the best Leica photographers I know don't care about having the latest and 'best' Leica lenses "

    oh.. ohh.. make prints of that sentence in gold letters and you will get serious $ selling them… :-))) even to us infected afficionados with masochistic tendencies.. can I buy the rights for your poetry ?


    Quote Originally Posted by leicashot View Post
    .... The best photographers I know do not shot Leica, and the best Leica photographers I know don't care about having the latest and 'best' Leica lenses.....

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    Re: FS Leica 35 mm lux Asph I

    I just did a quick tests of my 35m Lux AsphI. I am not an expert of testing for focus shift and good or bad bokeh or character. What do you think? Please give me your comments. The shots are from f1.4 to f11 cos i don't have space to add one more unless i delete the picture of the lens.

    Thanks for your help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 6x7 View Post
    "The best photographers I know do not shot Leica, and the best Leica photographers I know don't care about having the latest and 'best' Leica lenses "

    oh.. ohh.. make prints of that sentence in gold letters and you will get serious $ selling them… :-))) even to us infected afficionados with masochistic tendencies.. can I buy the rights for your poetry ?
    To be honest, maybe it's my inability to understand internet chat, but It's hard to tell if you're offended or being sarcastic

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    I think we all are voicing our opinion, our experience and testing so I am not affended and I think I value all comments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kebebe View Post
    I think we all are voicing our opinion, our experience and testing so I am not affended and I think I value all comments.
    Wow, lots of dialogue that's going on here. I will only recommend Kebebe as a great buyer and guilty like many of us, regardless of our skills as photogs (or lackthereof, depending on who's lookinbg...)....

    The 35 lux asph I is a great lens. I have commented in the past that it was for 2 years my favorite lens in terms of the look that I got from it. My copy didn't exhibit focus shift in a way that was meaningful for my way of shooting, and I think the bottom line should be whether or not one is pleased with how they can use it.

    Everett said it very lucidly: the lens is well capable, and it's often only our own set of skills that's limiting, moreso than focus shift. THat being said, I also agree with Everett's reflection that the new version holds sharp edges better and has a more dramatic fall off between sharp and unsharp areas. Some might comment that the new version has a busier bokeh, but I don't thing this is the case in my exerience.

    I decided to sell my version I and get a version 2 FLE for 2 reasons. One: availability....I had a vendor who had one become available, and I jumped at the chance....Two, my lenses have gradually gravitated towards a more modern look, and most of my lenses are aspherical or current designs. Thus, I wanted a lens that fit that profile of looks, and the 35 lux II, IMHO, pairs well with the 50 lux asph, 50 noct f/0.95, 24/21 lux asph, and 75/90 crons in terms of their style of rendering, which has much to do with that edge sharpness (and higher macrocontrast of the lenses)....

    I can tell you, that for me, since owning the 35 lux II, I don't miss the version I very much, though there are others that might miss it quite a bit....it's a fabulous lens, just as was the version before it (pre-asph)

    That being said, I still keep a vintage 50 rigid 'cron for the times where I want a more classic rendition, lower contrast.....'

    The choice is ultimately on Everett, and I see that the lens is still for sale....one final issue: When do 35 lux II's become available?

    Horses for courses....
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    Great points Ashwin. If I had the cash I'd buy the new version (at no more than retail mind you) because it's newer optical design seems to be more foolproof, and more importantly I found it's physical design to be more solid and hood implementation better.

    But optically, i'll say it again, I prefer the Nokton 35/1.2 for it's character, and prefer the Summilux for its handling and size. Again, and I'll keep saying this.....neither lenses will take better 'pictures' - thats up to us ;-)

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    Re: FS Leica 35 mm lux Asph I

    Hi Guys. i am learning a lot or I should say I have been getting many sincere opinions about the lens, character, bokeh, focus issues, its sharpness, contrast etc...

    I decided to go ahead to sell the lens and I will contact the people who have been patient with me.

    I just came back at the local camera swap meet and met with some friends, dealers( sellers in booth). I was lucky to find one 35mm Lux Asph that may not be in the same condition as mine and asking price is more than inline with my prices. They think buyers are paying in the $4200 to $4500 range on the top end.

    I also reviewed my memory what the 35mm Lux ASPH II compared to I. Ashwin's review is very close to my experience. It is true the old lens have some of the character that is attractive is an old fashion( cannot find the word) presentation of the film days. I do not mean it is not sharp as the test shots how primitive may be do show sharpness better than my sold Nocti. I don't think any lens will be exactly the same but have similar characteristics of un corrected spherical aberations. I fortunately have collected a drawer full of 50s and 35s lens that have similar but not identical rendering. if fact, if I give the images to my friend, they cannot pick out which one from each. I am referring to 35 1.4 different versions and 50mm f1.4 versions. When I took the images with which lens, i may be trying to identify differences then I may discovered the minute differences.

    As for the modern lens from Leica, I do see the family trait from the 50mm Lux Asph and the 35mm lux AsphII. The Noct .95 I tested is similar but have more character from the classic look wide open until stopped down pass f4 or more.

    All these differences are personal and I may change my mind later and wish for it back but for now, I am moving forward on the sale.

    Thanks for all the apreciated feedback and comments and caring so I don't make the wrong decision.


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    Last edited by kebebe; 12th May 2012 at 08:26.

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    35mm Lux Asph I is now pending payment tomorrow. Thanks for all the interested party and all who gave me advices and comments,


    Kebebe

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    Quote Originally Posted by leicashot View Post
    To be honest, maybe it's my inability to understand internet chat, but It's hard to tell if you're offended or being sarcastic
    no offence at all… only fun over here… :-)) this thing is called humour and I tend to exaggerate sometimes.. as I read the sentence I was very amused. some other may be too.. in fact depending on ones perspective/experience you can laugh or cry abot some very truth in the sentence.

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    Leica 35mm lux asph II sold and shipped. Already hurting cos cannot find any noct .95 or new 35 lux anywhere for reasonable prices.

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