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    Just a small update with my wife traveling. Okay Nancy is NOT a techno geek or gear slut like her husband. What i find interesting is a person like her and going through the Ipad as she travels . This morning she left Philly on a train back to NY. She said she read most of the time with her Ipad and played a little music. Too short a trip to start her movie, now at night in the hotel she has been doing the wifi stuff like internet , mail and such. She has a Iphone so she does get her mail all the time but she said she rather respond when she has the wifi on the Ipad since it is easier to type and such. For a non geeky person she maybe in this transition period of actually having fun and doing the geeky things at the same time. Her bag is certainly lighter from carrying a hard bound book and not carrying a laptop. heck even as shooters we could maybe even get away with Ipad and a storage device to download our CF and SD cards too and use as backup until you get home.

    For instance i am shooting a wedding in Dallas this weekend and maybe the only reason to bring my laptop is to back my files up too. I won't be processing these on the road anyway. Heck since I have a 64 gb unit, I wonder.

    maybe my question is this how do we download a CF card to the Ipad. In my case shooting CF cards rather have the USB connector and bring a reader but my question is this how do you download, is there a app to do that or do you import into iphoto and how do you get them off the Ipad to computer.

    Well I can't try it this time since she has the Ipad but in the future how can we do this
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    i have the same ? as Guy re CF cards; also like to find a way to use the pad as an extended LCD viewer

    her is a kindle vs pad comparison FYI
    http://www.redmondpie.com/ipad-vs-ki...rison-9140402/

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    At this time, I wouldn't use either an iPad or an iPhone/iPod Touch as a storage device for raw captures. If I could tether an external hard drive and a card reader to it specifically for that purpose, then it would be a sensible solution.

    I have an Epson P2000 (getting a little long in the tooth, should update to the P5000 model) for when I need a backup/storage device because I don't want to carry the laptop. Card slots built in for CF and SD, allows review and peeking at EXIF data, histograms, etc. Been a very handy device when I want to minimize what I'm carrying.

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    Well as i always do also Godfrey is never format a CF card on the road anyway. Have enough to completely cover yourself for sure and just put used CF cards away as backup as well. Regardless I highly recommend this no matter what. I agree the storage devices are very useful but it would be really nice to use a Ipad or touch as well. But only if there is a safe way to use it as a storage device. Obviously you have to worry about theft as well so never depend on one solution obviously.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Godfrey View Post
    At this time, I wouldn't use either an iPad or an iPhone/iPod Touch as a storage device for raw captures. If I could tether an external hard drive and a card reader to it specifically for that purpose, then it would be a sensible solution.

    I have an Epson P2000 (getting a little long in the tooth, should update to the P5000 model) for when I need a backup/storage device because I don't want to carry the laptop. Card slots built in for CF and SD, allows review and peeking at EXIF data, histograms, etc. Been a very handy device when I want to minimize what I'm carrying.
    I have a P2000 also and don't really want to buy the P5000--looked for something just for storage (I just carry a small external USB drive to back up laptop). I got mine out--haven't used it for quite awhile because it had issues with larger cards as I recall. I use a number of 4GB CF for the 5D and have never bought larger, but my SD cards are 4GB and 8GB--and the last firmware upgrade allows for up to 2GB but no larger.

    I haven't used it in a good while and planned to sell it cheap, but most everyone will run into the same problem so unlikely I can sell it.

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    Well as i always do also Godfrey is never format a CF card on the road anyway. Have enough to completely cover yourself for sure and just put used CF cards away as backup as well. Regardless I highly recommend this no matter what. I agree the storage devices are very useful but it would be really nice to use a Ipad or touch as well. But only if there is a safe way to use it as a storage device. Obviously you have to worry about theft as well so never depend on one solution obviously.
    And my thought also. Since I likely won't buy until Fall all you early adopters will have figured it out, but I want to minimize my travel gear and the 3G Ipad seems a possibility.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mancuso View Post
    Well as i always do also Godfrey is never format a CF card on the road anyway. Have enough to completely cover yourself for sure and just put used CF cards away as backup as well. ...
    That's a fine policy ... I do the same ... And doable nowadays with the insanely low cost of memory cards.

    At one time, it wasn't possible to do this economically ... The P2000 for $400 would backup what would have cost me $1200 to replicate in memory cards to my primary card capacity. It's not sensible to spend multiple times the primary storage cost for backup only.

    I want a backup copy as well, however. That's what the laptop with portable external drive or P2000 is for. I don't really worry about theft too much: in thirty years of extensive traveling, I've never had anything stolen but once (gifts I foolishly put in checked luggage). But I've had plenty of things damaged in use or transit.

    As I said, I'll consider the iPad or iPod Touch a useful backup device, obsoleting the P2000, for raw images when I can hook an external drive and a card reader up to it and tell it where to put the files in such a manner that I can hook that drive up to a computer and read the files as I normally would. Nothing less is worth thinking about, to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mancuso View Post

    maybe my question is this how do we download a CF card to the Ipad. In my case shooting CF cards rather have the USB connector and bring a reader but my question is this how do you download, is there a app to do that or do you import into iphoto and how do you get them off the Ipad to computer.

    Well I can't try it this time since she has the Ipad but in the future how can we do this
    Have not tried this but maybe...CF reader to hub wireless to iPad?

    http://www.gadgetell.com/tech/commen...wi-fi-usb-hub/


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    Quote Originally Posted by Diane B View Post
    I have a P2000 also and don't really want to buy the P5000--looked for something just for storage (I just carry a small external USB drive to back up laptop). I got mine out--haven't used it for quite awhile because it had issues with larger cards as I recall. I use a number of 4GB CF for the 5D and have never bought larger, but my SD cards are 4GB and 8GB--and the last firmware upgrade allows for up to 2GB but no larger.

    I haven't used it in a good while and planned to sell it cheap, but most everyone will run into the same problem so unlikely I can sell it.
    Same here, Diane. I've got 36 G capacity in 18x 2G SD storage cards for use on the road, tailored to the P2000 max limit per card capacity and storage space. I'd like to upgrade to 800G SDHC cards (that's what I use when not traveling) as it is a much more efficient usage with larger storage cards, but I'm reluctant to spend the money for the P5000.

    Someone creates a drive and reader interface and a file-handling application to move my files there with the iPad, I'll go for it.

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    For travel purely backup storage I'm using a Nexto drive. It doesn't have lots of bells and whistles but it ingests the cards very quickly and has an easy interface. The goal for me is to never need to get the info from that drive. So far I haven't needed to extract anything as the SD/CF cards haven't failed. On a dedicated photo trip I will shot too much to use an IPad for the storage. With a 24mp camera on a two week trip 54gb isn't enough.
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    Workshop or trip like that never the laptop goes. But for weekend to the cabin or something like that. It certainly would nice to leave the laptop home.
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    Terry--is that a "Next" drive? I couldn't find anything by googling. I've seen the Passport and whatever the Seagate one is (Go I think) but I think they are both w/o card slots. All I would like is a no frills-just storage drive. This sounds good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diane B View Post
    Terry--is that a "Next" drive? I couldn't find anything by googling. I've seen the Passport and whatever the Seagate one is (Go I think) but I think they are both w/o card slots. All I would like is a no frills-just storage drive. This sounds good.
    Sorry typo (iPhone) NEXTO is the brand. Check Amazon and B&H. They have all different hard drive sizes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TEBnewyork View Post
    With a 24mp camera on a two week trip 54gb isn't enough.
    Yes. There needs to be a disk that can work with the iPad. But in general I would hten have my MacBook with me anyway.
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    There may be a way around whatever shortcomings are in the iPad:

    Slate Wars: 15 Tablets That Could Rival Apple's iPad
    The iPad has captured many hearts and minds, but a fleet of rival tablets led by a separatist Android army is about to attack, armed with HD Flash video, multitouch screens, front-facing cameras, multitasking...even Windows 7.


    http://www.pcworld.com/article/19249...ples_ipad.html

    And Google is now saying they may get into the tablet wars, too. I think flat, low cost, lightweight computers with extensive connectivity are going to be at our feet a lot faster than expected.

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    Multitouch Windows machines have been on the market for over two years, Dell Latitude XT being the first. They didn't exactly set the world on fire...

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    I think the difference with the ipad and tablets of the past is the operating system. While some people want full blown computer functionality with what we think of as a computer OS, the beauty of the ipad is the simplicity. No booting up, the OS is transparent to the user, and the apps can be sensational.

    Competition is good and it sparks creativity.

    Personally, for me everything is working with my current computer/ipad/iPhone setup and it would take some huge leap to split up my phone and tablet into two different platforms seeing as I can now share apps.
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    Exactly. A tablet really works better with an OS that is designed specifically for it, and no one beats Apple when it comes to UI innovation.

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    i'd like to use my IPad as a photo display, to show groups of photos, say photo essays, and folios. the photos need to be in a set order. no matter how i organize them in my folder i import from through itunes, they get shuffled. it is such a simple thing, i just want my order of photos. I am going through the built in photo App, which otherwise works well. I don't want to buy ilife, to use iphoto, i tried iphoto 08 and it is another mind-numbing program. why do they make these simple things so complicatedhttp://forum.getdpi.com/forum/images/smilies/angry.gif

    you guys are much more tech than me, any solutions? and yes, i tried numbering the files. - 001.jpg, 002.jpg, etc. doesn't work.

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    I think that the tablet competition would have been a lot more effective over the years if PC manufacturers got out of the mindset of building nasty crappy plastic pieces of cheap junk rather than learning from the industrial design and superb quality and feel that Apple manage to achieve.

    This applies to laptops and desktops too. I get sent a number of PCs for my day job - typically Dell's finest - and they are without exception cheap and plastic feeling. The NetBook I have is abysmal (I call it my CrapBook or CheapBook). Performance typically is fine but build typically is cheap unless you buy a specialist box. By contrast, I spend my own personal money on Apple hardware, even if more expensive for the same hardware configuration.

    Pick up an iPad and you'll get an immediate feeling that you've got a quality piece of technology in your hands. Nobody I've showed mine to has had anything less than an 'oohhh, must have' reaction to it.

    Still, it's not perfect. Absence of Flash is a pain

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    Quote Originally Posted by MoJo View Post
    i'd like to use my IPad as a photo display, to show groups of photos, say photo essays, and folios. the photos need to be in a set order. no matter how i organize them in my folder i import from through itunes, they get shuffled. it is such a simple thing, i just want my order of photos. I am going through the built in photo App, which otherwise works well. I don't want to buy ilife, to use iphoto, i tried iphoto 08 and it is another mind-numbing program. why do they make these simple things so complicatedhttp://forum.getdpi.com/forum/images/smilies/angry.gif

    you guys are much more tech than me, any solutions? and yes, i tried numbering the files. - 001.jpg, 002.jpg, etc. doesn't work.

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    I think iPhoto may default to date order from the exif. I don't know a way of importing a preexisting slideshow. That being said, I'm currently playing with Keynote and creating a slideshow in the App. If you do that, you can keep them in the correct order. There may be other apps or ways to do this but I think it will take some time. Just like we have blurb for doing book publishing in hard copy, I do envision seeing photo books show up in a format that can be loaded into the iBook reader or similar app.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GrahamWelland View Post
    I think that the tablet competition would have been a lot more effective over the years if PC manufacturers got out of the mindset of building nasty crappy plastic pieces of cheap junk rather than learning from the industrial design and superb quality and feel that Apple manage to achieve.

    This applies to laptops and desktops too. I get sent a number of PCs for my day job - typically Dell's finest - and they are without exception cheap and plastic feeling. The NetBook I have is abysmal (I call it my CrapBook or CheapBook). Performance typically is fine but build typically is cheap unless you buy a specialist box. By contrast, I spend my own personal money on Apple hardware, even if more expensive for the same hardware configuration.

    Pick up an iPad and you'll get an immediate feeling that you've got a quality piece of technology in your hands. Nobody I've showed mine to has had anything less than an 'oohhh, must have' reaction to it.

    Still, it's not perfect. Absence of Flash is a pain
    Yes, I had an Asus EE PC for a while, it was like a toy. Actually, it WAS a toy. It's all about mass production, injection molding, and ultra low cost.

    Apple has definitely shown the way with their machined enclosures, going back to the original G5 towers. But even their earlier plastic/metal frame laptop designs were better than the typical PC laptops (speaking of the Wall Street, Lombard and Pismo Powerbooks.) The Titanium PowerBook followed, which was another step forward but had wear issues.

    The machined unibody MacBook Pro can't be topped, but it costs significantly more to produce than injection molding. It's a price I will gladly pay.

    Still haven't missed flash. Its best use is when I want to exercise my MacBook fans.

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    Terry, that is exactly what i have been working on..... I am going to sell E-books of my work, through various outlets. I want them to display on the Ipad, ideally available through the Ibookstore. Converting to PDF's is no problem so far, save for the fact that 2 page spreads are cut in half, so i have to redesign for that. Goodreader displays pdf's nicely, though the importing into is a kludge. EPub makes mincemeat of my nicely laid out pages, so that is a work in progress for sure......

    Have you tried doing photo-books in epub?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TEBnewyork View Post
    I think iPhoto may default to date order from the exif. I don't know a way of importing a preexisting slideshow. That being said, I'm currently playing with Keynote and creating a slideshow in the App. If you do that, you can keep them in the correct order. There may be other apps or ways to do this but I think it will take some time. Just like we have blurb for doing book publishing in hard copy, I do envision seeing photo books show up in a format that can be loaded into the iBook reader or similar app.
    I export sequenced image files from the SlideShow module or using Export from Lightroom into JPEGs as slide shows/folios/photo books. The file names include a numeric sequence so they sort propely by name. They go into a defined "iPod Photo Show" folder on my computer. iTunes is set to upload all photos and subfolders of photos from that location.

    Everything plays in the named order with the standard Photo player. Works perfectly and is simple to achieve.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MoJo View Post
    Terry, that is exactly what i have been working on..... I am going to sell E-books of my work, through various outlets. I want them to display on the Ipad, ideally available through the Ibookstore. Converting to PDF's is no problem so far, save for the fact that 2 page spreads are cut in half, so i have to redesign for that. Goodreader displays pdf's nicely, though the importing into is a kludge. EPub makes mincemeat of my nicely laid out pages, so that is a work in progress for sure......

    Have you tried doing photo-books in epub?

    -Josef

    BTW, am also designing magazines of my work, (and others in the future, first issue is up at MagCloud, a really great service so far.... like a Lulu or Blurbs, but for mags instead of books...) see- http://magcloud.com/browse/Issue/72725
    I'm interested in this as well. One service I saw requires you to create a Word document with your book layout and converts that to e-pub. You could use Pages to do all the layout work, then export as Word, then run it through their tool.

    But I'm just getting started on this ... I'm interested to what information you've found.

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    This might be Microsoft's answer to the iPad. So stylish and sleek *kidding*

    http://tinyurl.com/y5mz8j6

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    godfrey, i'll get back to you tomorrow with my current findings.
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    Sorry folks not in the US. Looks like we are buying too many iPads and Apple has pushed the international launch off for a month.

    Yesterday I went to change my 3G order from 32gb to to 64gb. I left the original order in place and just added a second order into the system. Figured i would go back in and cancel the original order once I knew the 64gb order was in place. Well, Apple wrote to me hours later that they cancelled the order because there were more than the two allotted on my account (including the original wifi version). So, they are pretty strictly monitoring who is buying too many. So, more evidence of major supply constraints.

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    Yes, I called the local store yesterday to buy six, and they said they were out; and they have a limit of two per person per day...but if I talked to the business sales rep they might waive it. Waiting for a phone call this morning...

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    Grumble Grumble - I know that I shouldn't complain (thanks to Terry), but we were hoping to get ours soon at least. Now it's beginning to look like late May / early June

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonoslack View Post
    Grumble Grumble - I know that I shouldn't complain (thanks to Terry), but we were hoping to get ours soon at least. Now it's beginning to look like late May / early June
    I was thinking about you (with yours passing around the table at your meeting last week) when I read about this delay this morning LOL. Here I am trying NOT to succumb--and youall are waiting patiently (not!!!!).

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    godfrey, i'll get back to you tomorrow with my current findings.
    thank you!

    One of my Apple buddies brought his to our Tuesday Night dinner yesterday so I had a good half hour or more to experiment with it. Quite a compelling piece of equipment for viewing photographs and books!

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    Yea I was not going for one either but walked in the store with my wife and bam she said buy it for her. I did but I may steal it back. LOL

    I agree the screen is really really nice for images and everything else.

    Actually it looks like it will be a house Ipad for when she is not traveling which maybe kind of nice to have lying around. Beats coming into my office sometimes
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    Quote Originally Posted by Godfrey View Post
    thank you!

    One of my Apple buddies brought his to our Tuesday Night dinner yesterday so I had a good half hour or more to experiment with it. Quite a compelling piece of equipment for viewing photographs and books!
    Godfrey: It is wonderful for viewing photos, save for the fact that i still can't organize them in the order i want. I'll figure it out eventually, it is not intuitive that way. I load them double size - 2048 ppi on the long side, at 132 ppi, that way i can impress folks by using the finger movements to blow them up...... pdf's are easily viewed by GoodReader, although it looks like i will have to redesign to get rid of double-page spreads, as they get broken up into 2 pages. Unfortunately the ibookstore does not take pdf's. So if i make pdf's, then it is a kludge for folks to get them into the Ipad. Now E-pubs would be the holy grail, as it is supported by the ibookstore, as well as other online bookstores. Using Calibre to convert, made a mess of the files. and there are so many setting/variables you can play with, that it will take some time to see if epubs can be made to work with photo-books. There are a few epub photobooks up in Ibooks, yet they don't work quite right either. the best thing would be to make an app that could be used as a template, i have an idea for one, but i am not a software developer and don't have the big bucks to have one made right yet.

    what have you found? I can email you the pdf of my magazine if you want.

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    Since so many are enamored with the iPad, and others seem to like involving their cats in the things, this little video should amuse some.....aside from the cat ;-)

    http://www.crunchgear.com/2010/04/13...d-that-is-all/

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    Quote Originally Posted by LJL View Post
    Since so many are enamored with the iPad, and others seem to like involving their cats in the things, this little video should amuse some.....aside from the cat ;-)

    http://www.crunchgear.com/2010/04/13...d-that-is-all/

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    LJ that'ts pretty funny. Here is one another good one....

    iPad Printing Solved

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    Jono,
    although the thought bubble from the cat about not scratching the iPad may be mostly true, I would still urge folks a bit caution. The glass (generally not scratched with anything softer than quartz....sand), has an oleophobic coating to help get rid of smudges and hand oils easily. That could get scratched, making cleaning a bit less easy. But I seriously doubt that the refined Caspar would do any serious harm ;-)

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    Terry,
    Like that solution....now if they only made a sleek, portable copier to go with it ;-)

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    I can't believe this thread has gone 11 hours without any new posts.

    I went to the Apple store last night to play with one of these things. Al I can say is WOW.

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    apple canada has moved release time from late april to late may...i can't type the words that i am thinking atm...

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    Just don't try taking your iPad through customs into Israel.

    http://gizmodo.com/5518002/ipad-impo...nned-in-israel

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    Had my first trip with iPad only to NAB 2010 in Vegas. I had no plans to do any image processing in Vegas and all worked fine. The key is that it is easy to carry the iPad all day long without any problems. Would not liked to carry even a 13" MacBook that long. I used a small CradlePoint wiwi router in the hotel to convert ethernet from a cable modem to wifi. The CradlePoint is mainly used to convert my USB air card into a wifi signal. No need to use the air card this time.

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    Uwe, how long does the Cradlepoint keep its charge without an external power supply?

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    Uwe, how long does the Cradlepoint keep its charge without an external power supply?
    Mine has no battery. I have a normal power supply and a car adapter.
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    anybody recommend a good case?
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    Right now I'm using the Apple case -

    Pros:
    It folds around in different ways to either make a slightly tilted elevation which makes typing on a flat table easier.
    the other way to fold it is nice for watching movies on airplanes
    easy access

    Con: seems to collect lots of dust around the edges.

    Has yours arrived?

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    No not yet, have the 3Gs started to ship?....I thought there may be a better third party case out there. I did buy some of the apps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoJo View Post
    Godfrey: It is wonderful for viewing photos, save for the fact that i still can't organize them in the order i want. I'll figure it out eventually, it is not intuitive that way. I load them double size - 2048 ppi on the long side, at 132 ppi, that way i can impress folks by using the finger movements to blow them up...... pdf's are easily viewed by GoodReader, although it looks like i will have to redesign to get rid of double-page spreads, as they get broken up into 2 pages. Unfortunately the ibookstore does not take pdf's. So if i make pdf's, then it is a kludge for folks to get them into the Ipad. Now E-pubs would be the holy grail, as it is supported by the ibookstore, as well as other online bookstores. Using Calibre to convert, made a mess of the files. and there are so many setting/variables you can play with, that it will take some time to see if epubs can be made to work with photo-books. There are a few epub photobooks up in Ibooks, yet they don't work quite right either. the best thing would be to make an app that could be used as a template, i have an idea for one, but i am not a software developer and don't have the big bucks to have one made right yet.

    what have you found? I can email you the pdf of my magazine if you want.

    -Josef
    You're well ahead of me so far. I have been very busy and not had time to do much research yet.

    I'd like to see your magazine PDF. I'll pop you an email you can send it to via a message or you can message me a URL I can download it from.

    thanks!

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    This looks like an interesting one

    http://www.dodocase.com/
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