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    IPad Discussions

    Hi There
    Only 4 hours to the announcement.
    I'm not sure what it'll have for us photographers, but there are a few rumours with respect to aperture 3, and the aperture 2 tutorials on the apple website seem to be 'down'.

    Anyway, I thought that we could have a thread where we could all rubbish/eulogise apple over the new announcement (perhaps Guy or Jack could rename it to ipad or islate or whatever the damn thing is called (when we know).

    As a starter, here is an article in wired that I found very interesting.

    Wired Apple Tablet Article

    I'm excited!

    all the best

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    Re: Apple Tablet Thread

    Glad you started this . Hear are my predictions for the day. I have absolutely no inside info either.

    Ipad obviously and runs all Iphone apps. with Verizon as carrier.
    I have a feeling a new MBP with Arrandale though no quads
    New I Life
    New I work
    New I phone 4.0 and also release of Iphone to verizon
    OS 10.6.3 update as well
    I also think maybe a 6 core MP base model
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    Re: Apple Tablet Thread and Predictions for the Day

    Jono i added to your title . Let's have some fun folks. Always fun to wish upon a Apple.
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    Now if there is a quad core MBP mine is up for sale.
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    Re: Apple Tablet Thread and Predictions for the Day

    Well, although I've seen all the blah as well, I suspect that any new software announced will only relate to the tablet, and that new hardware (apart from the tablet) will also wait . . . the apple store is thoroughly UP at the moment.

    So, I predict
    Tablet
    Lots and lots of content stuff - books, magazines, newspapers
    New versions of itunes store to sell all this stuff
    New version of iwork and ilife - which will also work on the tablet

    Then I'm going to stick my neck out for Aperture 3, with a tablet extension allowing you to add and view files on the road. (this is wishware more than anything else)

    Nothing else.
    However, like the Wired article I linked to, I think that this presentation is going to be more about content than about kit - and if I were in Amazon's shoes I'd be very worried about the Kindle!

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    Re: Apple Tablet Thread and Predictions for the Day

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mancuso View Post
    Jono i added to your title . Let's have some fun folks. Always fun to wish upon a Apple.
    That's fine Guy - you can change it back to comments after the show.

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    Good idea
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    Re: Apple Tablet Thread and Predictions for the Day

    Me thinks they might sneak in an update to the Macpro line.

    Hopefully they might address the yellow/green blob issue in the new iMac.

    I couldn't even fathom how much a quad core MBP would run. North of $3k easilly. But then again, 15" quad core MBP w/ 500G SDD w/ NEC 2690 and Drobo. DONE! :-D well... and more broker too!

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    Re: Apple Tablet Thread and Predictions for the Day

    Some live links : 20 minutes to go . Pop some popcorn with salt and butter , yea the stuff that is bad for ya and enjoy the show

    http://live.appleinsider.com/

    http://live.gizmodo.com/

    http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/20...t-liveblog.ars

    http://www.macworld.com/article/1458...lsrc=newsalert
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    I have all 4 websites up. Total gear slut
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    It's the iPad...

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    Re: Apple Tablet Thread and Predictions for the Day

    Enough already. I want one now

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    Re: Apple Tablet Thread and Predictions for the Day

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mancuso View Post
    Some live links : 20 minutes to go . Pop some popcorn with salt and butter , yea the stuff that is bad for ya and enjoy the show

    http://live.appleinsider.com/

    http://live.gizmodo.com/

    http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/20...t-liveblog.ars

    http://www.macworld.com/article/1458...lsrc=newsalert

    Here is another link which seems to be updating pretty fast:
    http://live.gdgt.com/2010/01/27/live...vent-coverage/

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    Re: Apple Tablet Thread and Predictions for the Day

    The specs look a bit light for the processing, so do not get hopes up. However, this could be a fantastic little viewer screen at a shoot, or in the field for live view work for some. Still have to see how things connect, but it has ports, can do USB2.1 +, and other things, so it looks like it could run some of the apps for remote camera things that may already be available in the App Store, or though vendors. This has some potential.

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    Re: Apple Tablet Thread and Predictions for the Day

    This is what I am hoping is to shoot tethered to it somehow
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    Re: Apple Tablet Thread and Predictions for the Day

    Okay now where talking Ibooks
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    Maybe only smaller JPEGs, as the memory capacity is 16-64GB of flash. The 9.7" multi-touch screen and accelerometer looks interesting. The 1GHz Apple A4 chip to run it is something new, so no idea how much it can handle. The 10 hr. battery life sound impressive also. Somebody may have to write an app (Phase?) to work out the tethering part, I think. Same for Hasselblad, but it should be doable. The SDK is available from Apple today, so if there are developers wanting to give it a crack, have at it.

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    $29.99 a month for unlimited 3G data... sounds so amazing... if only it wasn't AT&T...

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    Re: Apple Tablet Thread and Predictions for the Day

    Starting at $499, there will be some mighty long waiting lists...

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    Re: Apple Tablet Thread and Predictions for the Day

    Here is breakdown on pricing:
    Attachment 27153

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    Re: Apple Tablet Thread and Predictions for the Day

    Looking to see what ports it has. It has USB but what else
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    Quote Originally Posted by Devon Shaw View Post
    $29.99 a month for unlimited 3G data... sounds so amazing... if only it wasn't AT&T...
    There is the provision for using on any GSM network that uses micro-SIM cards.....the iPad is unlocked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mancuso View Post
    Looking to see what ports it has. It has USB but what else
    It has a 30-pin port that goes to USB for charging, syncing, etc. Just like the iPhone.

    LJ

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    Re: Apple Tablet Thread and Predictions for the Day

    Well for 499 no 3g it maybe perfect for my wife. For us not so sure, seems my Iphone does all we want outside of having a laptop anyway.
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    Re: Apple Tablet Thread and Predictions for the Day

    And that is all that is announced folks. MP, MBP, Iphone updates ????????????????????????????
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    Quote Originally Posted by LJL View Post
    There is the provision for using on any GSM network that uses micro-SIM cards.....the iPad is unlocked.

    LJ
    This is true. I am not sure how it is other places but in the Bay Area at least the GSM data options are AT&T and T-Mobile, neither of which perform too spectacularly.


    I don't know what I was expecting from this announcement but I must say.. feels a little underwhelming. Luxury product and I can't where it is supposed to fit between my current combination of Macbook and iPod Touch.

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    Re: Apple Tablet Thread and Discussions

    Pardon me if I'm missing something but this looks like a big version of an itouch. It's not a laptop replacement, heck I don't think it's a netbook replacement even. I can run LR and CS4 off my netbook with a spare battery and a camera for talking to my wife when travelling. Also seems to be far from the portable tethering machine that lots of photographers got excited anticipating...
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    Re: Apple Tablet Thread and Discussions

    Here's the video from the presentation,
    http://www.apple.com/ipad/#video

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    Check this out

    iPad Camera Connection Kit
    The Camera Connection Kit gives you two ways to import photos and videos from a digital camera. The Camera Connector lets you import your photos and videos to iPad using the camera’s USB cable. Or you can use the SD Card Reader to import photos and videos directly from the camera’s SD card.
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    Okay this is smelling a little better
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    Re: IPad Discussions

    This looks like a great device, particularly for being first generation. I'm a bit surprised that they didn't go to 128GB storage though. That would make it better for storing photos when traveling. Now we just need Adobe to develop iPad versions of PS and/or LR...

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    Re: IPad Discussions

    For you readers out there, here are the specs: http://www.apple.com/ipad/specs/

    I guess I'm not a video guy.

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    Re: IPad Discussions

    This is perfect for me and my travels. On the road it covers essentially everything I need. If I can use my micro 4/3 camera (or SD cards) with it that is all I need for non Photo-centric travels. There already is a Photoshop App for iPhone. I am sure we will see other apps. I would not be the least bit surprised if an iPhoto app to make adjustments to jpegs would work.

    I know this isn't all that everyone wanted but for me it pretty much nails a lot of my wishes. Love my iPhone. Like my kindle. Give me a combo of both on steroids and I am totally excited. Now the question is can I hold out for the extra 30 days for the 3G version or will I have to get a wifi for the month and sell it when the 3g hits the market. Yes, I'm bad!

    Great for the tray table on an airplane....where even a 13" laptop is now a nuisance. Just flip open the case and watch a movie on a decent sized screen. Most of my SF to NY flights now have Wifi. Travel can now be a bit more civilized.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mancuso View Post
    Check this out

    iPad Camera Connection Kit
    The Camera Connection Kit gives you two ways to import photos and videos from a digital camera. The Camera Connector lets you import your photos and videos to iPad using the camera’s USB cable. Or you can use the SD Card Reader to import photos and videos directly from the camera’s SD card.
    I hope it's better implemented than the iPod CF, which I have and is a piece of ****.

    My netbook has an SDHC slot, much easier than a connector.

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    Looks pretty interesting, trying to figure out if I need something between my MBP and my iPhone. And do I need an even bigger display with my fingerprints all over it.

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    Re: IPad Discussions

    Well, interesting that the one thing we all accepted was a 10.5" screen . . .
    Otherwise it's exactly what I expected . . . I thought the telling thing was right at the end where they said:
    75 million people already know how to use it:
    Of course it's true - the average girl/guy (who has an iphone) going in to pc world and playing with a netbook . . . . then they go to an apple store and play with this. Bit of a no-brainer really!
    For those who don't travel from country to country much the 'no contract' data doesn't seem that significant, but in Europe, going a few hundred miles to the next country on business with an iphone can run up data bills which will pay for an ipad in a fortnight. The idea that you can grab a month's contract for $30 on a trip abroad with unlimited data . . .. and then do proper email and documents with something which will slip in the back pocket of a briefcase . . .


    I'll just hope for my Aperture 3 plug in!

    My problem is going to be the same as Terry's . . can I wait for that extra 30 days!

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    Plug in a mic and headphone and use skype over 3G for voice? Or does skype work over 3G?

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    Re: IPad Discussions

    Amazing vitriol on other sites - just ran through a few, and I don't think I've seen more than a couple of positive remarks.
    The geekerati seem to be personally offended by the fact that it doesn't have:
    front camera
    back camera
    flash support
    telephone
    sd/firewire/usb sockets
    multitasking (although I think that's an inference, and the apple applications certainly do multitask).


    For me, something I can:
    read books on
    write emails on
    RDP into a client's site on
    write documents / presentations / spreadsheets on
    use omnifocus on
    buy cheap data when I'm abroad
    look at photos when on a trip (and store them)
    slip in the back pocket of my fogg camera bag
    Like the look of every time I use it.

    is rather wonderful . . . but then, my geek qualifications were always rather slight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonoslack View Post
    For me, something I can:
    read books on
    I wish it were the same for me as actual reading (not skimming or newspaper article length reading) of novels and research materials is too painful on a backlit screen after a relatively short period of time. There's too much eye strain and I suffer from bad headaches very quickly (something which has become only worse after suffering a concussion in November). So I'm still in the market for a Kindle/Nook type device, though I'm hoping this tablet will cause some downward pressure on their pricepoints.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeremy View Post
    I wish it were the same for me as actual reading (not skimming or newspaper article length reading) of novels and research materials is too painful on a backlit screen after a relatively short period of time. There's too much eye strain and I suffer from bad headaches very quickly (something which has become only worse after suffering a concussion in November). So I'm still in the market for a Kindle/Nook type device, though I'm hoping this tablet will cause some downward pressure on their pricepoints.
    My Kindle will be up for sale pretty soon. It is a great product but for my needs the iPad will be better. I'm used to being on a backlit screen for long periods of time so I hope reading on it will also be pretty enjoyable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by monza View Post
    Plug in a mic and headphone and use skype over 3G for voice? Or does skype work over 3G?
    You don't need or use 3G for skype Wifi is fine.

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    Yes it is getting a lot of heat for what it don't have BUT I do see it has it's place and for many folks also a Iphone may not be necessary. You could actually back down your phone to JUST a phone and this as your source for e-mail and all the other stuff. Now for non photographers like my wife that does a lot of travel this would fit her very well. She can get e-mail,surf, read a book and i do like the idea of a prepaid 3g for 15 dollars for the month. So maybe buy a 3g model and use it when you travel or something.

    Let's put it this way they will sell more than they can make in a year so even all the folks that complain about it someone else will buy it, no question.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mancuso View Post

    Always fun to wish upon a Apple.

    I wish Apple would price a product, any Apple product, reasonably, so the product could be given serious consideration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devon Shaw View Post
    $29.99 a month for unlimited 3G data... sounds so amazing... if only it wasn't AT&T...

    From what I've been reading this past month about the iPhone, it seems ATT is ok with dumping Apple, wishing Apple would unlock the iPhone. The iPhone's 3G transfers in SF and NY are bogging down ATT's infrastruction, wants to share the burden with other carriers.

    Apple-holics, on the other hand, claim ATT is not spending enough to upgrade their system to support 3G phones, any 3G phones, not just the iPhone.

    Speculation is the iPhone/ATT union is in marriage counseling, headed for a divorce. Could be good for both Apple iPhone sales and ATT. On the flip side, Apple just said iPhone apps sales are barely breaking even. So what are folks using the iPhone for? ... and project the lack of app sales to other smart phones coming onto the market. Kind of leaves a big blank area in the handy phone market.
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    Check this out

    iPad Camera Connection Kit
    The Camera Connection Kit gives you two ways to import photos and videos from a digital camera. The Camera Connector lets you import your photos and videos to iPad using the camera’s USB cable. Or you can use the SD Card Reader to import photos and videos directly from the camera’s SD card.

    Or ... sit tight, save your money, and in a very short time you will be able to stream your photo session/video, in real time, to your Windows based PC, wherever it is in the world.

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    Re: Apple Tablet Thread and Predictions for the Day

    Quote Originally Posted by Oxide Blu View Post
    I wish Apple would price a product, any Apple product, reasonably, so the product could be given serious consideration.
    Well. Their recent financial statement suggests that someone gives their products serious consideration.

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    Well. Their recent financial statement suggests that someone gives their products serious consideration.

    Yup -- just like the tulip bubble of the 17th century.

    The difference is that Apple is sitting on a mountain of cash. Tulip farmers weren't.

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    Re: IPad Discussions

    I've been considering adding a MB Air or Dell Vostro V13 ultralight laptop. Both of these would run a full-blown OS (OS X or Win 7), have ports for expansion, etc. The Dell starts at $449 (about $800 for a fully-spec'd config), the Air is about $1500 and both weigh in at 3.5 lbs and measure 0.6in "thin".

    My logic was that I need my full size M6400 "laptop" with me when I travel (which I am doing a lot more of these days). I love the desktop workstation speed of my quad-core, RAID 0 SSD, 17" beast, but I hate, hate, hate (did I say hate?) the abysmal 1 hour battery life (yes, I am serious and not exaggerating). The video card alone chugs 75 watts of power!

    So, I wanted to carry an ultralight also when I travel. This would give me something to do while I was in airplanes, cabs, trains, hotel lobbies, etc. instead of scoping out a nearby power outlet or twiddling my thumbs and cursing my power-sucking imaging machine for not even allowing me the distraction of watching a single movie all the way through.

    Now, with the iPad, I could slip one right into my laptop bag and be happy. I could even charge it from my laptop at night without having to lug any additional power adapters. I think that I would also grab a bluetooth Mac keyboard so I could do some serious typing. An iMac keyboard is pretty small and light so no concern there. Really, this thing looks great, except for the lack of Flash support and the fact that it can only do one thing at a time (so no MP3s playing in the background while typing a report ).

    Now, I'm glad I didn't pull the trigger on the Dell and just have to bide my time until the iPad is available. Hmm... I wonder what it would do with an S2 file at full res... or, if Leica's software team might cook up something that would run over USB. That would be very cool, although I would be content to watch a couple of movies on a transcon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mancuso View Post
    Check this out

    iPad Camera Connection Kit
    The Camera Connection Kit gives you two ways to import photos and videos from a digital camera. The Camera Connector lets you import your photos and videos to iPad using the camera’s USB cable. Or you can use the SD Card Reader to import photos and videos directly from the camera’s SD card.
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    Well - the iPad was announced today and while Steve Jobs did a really good job at showing the features they glossed over what I deem to be the most important accessory - at least for photographers. You can get a digital camera connection kit which comes with a dock-usb and dock-sdhc card reader. Now imagine you are at a shoot or on vaction and do not want to bring your laptop. You now have a 500 dollar 10” viewing screen and also photo backup. At the end (or in the middle) of the shoot, dump the images to the ipad and quickly show proofs or browse at the end of the session. The ipad along with 3g will allow you to photo-blog Instantly! right from a shoot. Imagine shooting the wedding and having people at the reception be able to log onto your website and by photo/order prints before the bride and groom even cut the cake. The ipad is a game changer for sure. It makes 300 dollar Archos storage devices now look like a joke.

    Now… if we can tether our cameras to the ipad… that would be something truly special…

    Thank you Apple.

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    Re: IPad Discussions

    Quote Originally Posted by dfarkas View Post
    Really, this thing looks great, except for the lack of Flash support and the fact that it can only do one thing at a time (so no MP3s playing in the background while typing a report ).

    David
    Don't rule that out. On the iPhone you can have iTunes going (playing music) the background with other things - like email.

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