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    Gitzo Series 3 or RRS TVC-34 for MF?

    If possible I use my Gitzo Series 5 tripod - but I can't say that carrying it makes my happy. So I'm looking for something which isn't as heavy as the Series 5 tripod.

    Who has had the chance to compare a RRS TVC-33/34 tripod to a Gitzo Series 3? Is RRS really that good when it comes to damping vibrations and stability?

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    Chris,

    I have a Gitzo 5541LS that I bought new---right before the new RRS TVC33/34 was announced. I feel your pain---or weight on your shoulders from a Gtizo 5 series and Cube. I still love/use the 5 series, but would much prefer a similarly spec'd RRS TVC33 at about two pounds lighter!! I would swap my 5 series for the RRS TVC33, but really can't justify doing so right now.

    I did get the smaller TVC24 as my "travel tripod" and am absolutely satisifed with the RRS build and engineering design. It is exceptionally stable and similar to the reviews, I'd give the nod to the RRS tripod over the Gitzo. I added the leveling base to the TVC24 and will use either a PCL1 panning clamp or the Cube, though would prefer the elusive slimmer profile Arca D4..... The TVC 24 handles the Phase DF/IQ180 easily.

    There is typically a wait list for RRS tripods, but they do fill the orders. I'd opt for the RRS tripod....

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    Re: Gitzo Series 3 or RRS TVC-34 for MF?

    I just finally got the TVC24L version I had the 3 legged version. Stock was back ordered for several months but I will probably keep this one forever. I really like there tripods, the heads they can keep I really dislike them. I have my cube on mine and nothing moves in the slightest. I'm kind of done with the monster pods. This is a little under rated at 40 lbs if you ask me. I'm pretty much done with Gitzo

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    Thank you very much, Ken and Guy, much appreciated. It seems that there will be one of those months in which I should avoid a close look at the bank statement :-)

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    Re: Gitzo Series 3 or RRS TVC-34 for MF?

    mine is the TVC 3X it has two adjusters per leg; (Guy probably meant his version has 3 adjusters per leg, so it will collapse more). the 3 size has nice fat tubes.

    problems:
    the hook for hanging a weight is too small and too tight to the top, needs two carabiners to get your bag in there
    make sure you have two 3/16" allen wrenches in your kit so you can tighten the leg pivots, as mine loosened up

    when I ordered it, it was listed out of stock, but it shipped in a week

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    Re: Gitzo Series 3 or RRS TVC-34 for MF?

    Yes correct John it's really 4 legs
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    Re: Gitzo Series 3 or RRS TVC-34 for MF?

    quadpod?

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    Re: Gitzo Series 3 or RRS TVC-34 for MF?

    Okay espresso shortage here . 4 section , 3 legs. Lol
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    Re: Gitzo Series 3 or RRS TVC-34 for MF?

    The gitzo is a very serviceable tripod and I really find nothing I do not like about it.
    I have two, the 3541 and 3541L.
    Very sturdy, well damped, and fairly easy to field-strip and clean when necessary.
    I find nothing about the rrs tripods that would make them worth their greater price except id esthetics are important to you.
    I have never seen any sort of objective comparison in any of the dimensions that make a difference photographically.
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    Re: Gitzo Series 3 or RRS TVC-34 for MF?

    i changed out my Gitzo (7-8 yrs old) for the Versa, but only because my G-1327 Mk II had 1-1/4 legs and an adjustable center column and the TVC 3X has 1-7/16 legs and a fixed center plate, about the same ht

    Gitzo comparable to Versa: ($1,100 gitzo price) (didn't see leg diameter though)
    http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...YSTEMATIC.html

    I had no real complaints about the Gitzo, though the Versa claims it has a more foolproof center plate lock than the fixed column Gitzos
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    Quote Originally Posted by jlm View Post
    ....I had no real complaints about the Gitzo, though the Versa claims it has a more foolproof center plate lock than the fixed column Gitzos
    There is an available safety plate from Naturescapes at B&H that addresses the center plate lock issue (yup, happened to me, but luckily in my hands and no damage) which is a worthwhile purchase for the Gitzo 3 and 5 series tripod. This is an easily addressed potential shortcoming---but I think may have been addressed by the very latest Gitzo offerings.

    The RRS TVC24 certainly doesn't have this issue and is a better design than the Gitzo (at the time). I also like the click-lock legs offered by the RRS tripod; both tripods are at the top of their game, but it's those little things that make me like the RRS just a tad more.

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    Re: Gitzo Series 3 or RRS TVC-34 for MF?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob View Post
    I have two, the 3541 and 3541L.
    Very sturdy, well damped, and fairly easy to field-strip and clean when necessary.
    I find nothing about the rrs tripods that would make them worth their greater price except id esthetics are important to you.
    -bob
    Currently, I have a Series 2 and a Series 5 (the giant model) which is irreplacable when working in, e.g., a stairwell. I prefer the weight of the Series 2 but it is not sturdy enough. I take the Series 5 when I'm off to a job but I need something between the 2 and the 5 for less 'serious' stuff or when I have to carry everything over longer distances.

    Going by web images, I don't like the shiny surface of the RRS tripods (to me it looks like 'hello, I'm really expensive stuff' :-). I have quite a few of their clamps and plates - expensive too but no doubt I'd buy them again.

    A big thank you to all who responded to my question!

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    Re: Gitzo Series 3 or RRS TVC-34 for MF?

    I am tall and none of the RRS pods have legsets long enough, so my Gitzo 3541XLS remains my main pod. For a lighter alternative, I use the Feizol 3441T at half the price of Gitzo/RRS and still very high quality AND folds like a traveller. My big pod is the Gitzo carbon fiber 5 series Giant that extends to about 3 meters.
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    Re: Gitzo Series 3 or RRS TVC-34 for MF?

    I am a shortie, 5'3" and purchased Guy's TVC-23. It should be delivered later today. That tripod was on my short list so when Guy recently put it up for sale, I grabbed it.

    I have 4 Gitzos--2 too many. I recently purchased a 3 series system legset, but will probably sell it. The TVC-23 will be replacing my Gitzo Traveler 1541 with the RRS 40 head. While on a recent outing, I felt I needed stronger legs to hold my Max and DB, but when I took it to Iceland in 2009, it was a pleasure to use.

    Jack since you are too tall for the RRS models, I wonder what Don Libby uses?
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    Re: Gitzo Series 3 or RRS TVC-34 for MF?

    Let me know if that comes in okay Darr. I think a perfect match for you.
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    I am sure it will be fine Guy. I was going to send you a "Thank You" anyway.
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    I did replace the top piece with a new one for ya and its all setup to put head on and go shoot.
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    Re: Gitzo Series 3 or RRS TVC-34 for MF?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    For a lighter alternative, I use the Feizol 3441T at half the price of Gitzo/RRS and still very high quality AND folds like a traveller.
    I second the Feisol as an alternative. After reading Jack's review about his 3441T, I bought the CT-3472 to compare against my ageing Gizto. I sold the Gitzo and kept the Feisol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    I am tall and none of the RRS pods have legsets long enough, so my Gitzo 3541XLS remains my main pod. For a lighter alternative, I use the Feizol 3441T at half the price of Gitzo/RRS and still very high quality AND folds like a traveller. My big pod is the Gitzo carbon fiber 5 series Giant that extends to about 3 meters.
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    When do you take you're 3541XLS and does it make a difference against the 3441T?

    I have an old alu and heavy Gitzo tripod. Having a "good" light tripod would be nice. I notice that the Feisol is much lighter that the Gitzo 3541XLS.

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    Re: Gitzo Series 3 or RRS TVC-34 for MF?

    Quote Originally Posted by alainD View Post
    Hi

    When do you take you're 3541XLS and does it make a difference against the 3441T?

    I have an old alu and heavy Gitzo tripod. Having a "good" light tripod would be nice. I notice that the Feisol is much lighter that the Gitzo 3541XLS.
    I haver both but am generally happier with the Gitzo 3541 (not xls)
    I probably will be putting my Feisol on the block when I get home.
    It is much squirmier than the gitzo and the lack of "g-lock" has been sorely missed.
    I do not recommend it for any serious critical-sharpness use unless if you are using it with a wide.
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    I do not recommend it for any serious critical-sharpness use unless if you are using it with a wide.
    -bob
    Critical sharpness is a tripod's raison d'Ítre. So, does your caution apply to other models? I'm short and usually photograph where the land is flat, so I was considering the shorter (by 6") Feisol 3441S w/ RAL. Perhaps the height difference would improve stability.

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    Re: Gitzo Series 3 or RRS TVC-34 for MF?

    Quote Originally Posted by NotXorc View Post
    Critical sharpness is a tripod's raison d'Ítre. So, does your caution apply to other models? I'm short and usually photograph where the land is flat, so I was considering the shorter (by 6") Feisol 3441S w/ RAL. Perhaps the height difference would improve stability.
    Mass, rigidity, damping, and low center of gravity are all good things on a tripod.
    Legs if they are tubular, are much more rigid if they have larger diameters.
    Carbon fiber usually is better damped than aluminum and much better than steel.
    I guess one of my beefs with the fiesol is the relatively small diameter of its plate to which the legs attach. and the relatively small diameter of its legs. Although it is fairly ridgid to compressive forces, it tends to ring (side to side) torsionally when perturbed by wind. I love its case and it is very compact, but just not the right combination of features for me.
    Of course something shorter might be better but nothing replaces beefiness.
    One more thing, ANY tripod is better than none at all, so you have several dimensions of tradeoffs to deal with. My main spec was that it fit in a standard 24 inch suitcase. Others have mentioned carry-on airline possibilities. I have been blocked twice from carrying-on tripods, once at JFK and once in Brussels. I therefore always pack my legs.
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    Re: Gitzo Series 3 or RRS TVC-34 for MF?

    Has anyone seen/played/purchased one of the new Gitzo 4 series carbon tripods?

    The 4 series has the new design triangular top casting that is of the same size as the 3 series but with the added benefit of having much larger diameter carbon legs tubes to the 3 series. Gitzo have also changed the top plate mounting so is more secure and can't fall out accidentally as was criticised of the old Systematic range. Sounds like a perfect tripod to me as I'm really interested in the giant version but have not seen one in the flesh.

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    Re: Gitzo Series 3 or RRS TVC-34 for MF?

    I'm thinking it's time to replace my 10 year old Gitzo G1348 (mk2 CF). The leg locks are worn to where I've lately had them slip on me despite being tightened down well. One day it'll be my kit going off a cliff! I never really liked the leg locks anyway (they rotate freely which is annoying to say the least) so I'm thinking replace the pod rather than replace whatever part is worn.

    The RRS pods look quite nice. What would be a good substitute... the 24L? I see they have a leveling base for the 2 series - anyone tried it?

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    Re: Gitzo Series 3 or RRS TVC-34 for MF?

    Hi Jan,

    I have the RRS leveling base on my RRS TVC-24. Easy to adjust and fast enough, though nothing as simple or fast as the Cube. My TVC-24 is my "travel tripod" as it fits easily well-packed into a suitcase, is lightweight (a feather compared to my Gitzo 5541LS!) and provides a stable platform for my DF or tech camera. At present I don't use a head on my TVC-24. I use the RRS leveling base and the RRS PCL-1 panning clamp only, which provides a light, low-profile tripod. I wanted a slimmer Arca D4 head (versus Cube, which just seems slightly too bulky for the TVC-24) but Arca just seems to tease, tease, tease....

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    Re: Gitzo Series 3 or RRS TVC-34 for MF?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jan Brittenson View Post
    I'm thinking it's time to replace my 10 year old Gitzo G1348 (mk2 CF). The leg locks are worn to where I've lately had them slip on me despite being tightened down well. One day it'll be my kit going off a cliff! I never really liked the leg locks anyway (they rotate freely which is annoying to say the least) so I'm thinking replace the pod rather than replace whatever part is worn.

    The RRS pods look quite nice. What would be a good substitute... the 24L? I see they have a leveling base for the 2 series - anyone tried it?
    Have the 24L absolutely love it. It's taller than me at that is awesome for interior work and such. It's my everything pod. Don't really need anything else.
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