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    Has anyone tried an Intuos 4 tablet?

    I have an Intuos 3 tablet that I never use but the Intuos 4 seems like it solved the things that annoyed me

    1. Left handed use (now can plug in from either direction so express keys are handy)
    2. Express keys have changeable LED labels and change by application so you can see what the keys do

    If you own it do you like it are is it all good or are there annoying aspects to using it?

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    Has anyone tried an Intuos 4 Tablet?

    Yes,
    I use it every day for everything.
    I almost forgot how to drive photoshop without it.
    Maybe I will find a small one for my workshop travels.
    Best tablet ever!
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    Re: Has anyone tried an Intuos 4 Tablet?

    Hahahahaha - Strange I deleted the thread about an hour ago.....and now your reply comes back up.

    I had deleted the thread because I started to read on line that it wasn't great with Lightroom which is my primary application.

    What size did you get. I think it is worth it to get at least the medium to get the LED labels for the express keys.

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    Re: Has anyone tried an Intuos 4 Tablet?

    Don't know where Terry's post went, but---I've used an Intuos since serial hookup days (have no idea what that was, but couldn't find drivers for it anymore and bought the 3). I have a 3 now and honestly can't function without it. I rarely use a mouse--the pen is just always in my hand--but, like Bob--couldn't 'drive' PS without it. I do have a small (can't remember what it is called) tablet for travel--my second one. My husband absconded with my first so I had to buy another LOL.

    The new options Terry mentioned would be nice, but I'm so used to mine, that I actually don't think about it--its totally intuitive. I guess if you are left handed and want to use it off desk the hookup might matter. I have enough cable to allow me to use it as I want though.

    Edit---right, Terry--it doesn't matter in LR---you can't 'select'--its just that I've used a pen for so long that that part is just how I work. I do use LR for 90% or more of my processing so its really moot--except that I suspect that it keeps my wrist in better shape than using a mouse all the time. I can't prove this, but I know a mouse, years ago (and i know there are better mouses/mice LOL out there nowadays), was creating issues for me. For some a pen might feel restrictive--I've just used one for years and its just so natural for me.

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    Re: Has anyone tried an Intuos 4 Tablet?

    Quote Originally Posted by Diane B View Post
    Don't know where Terry's post went, but---I've used an Intuos since serial hookup days (have no idea what that was, but couldn't find drivers for it anymore and bought the 3). I have a 3 now and honestly can't function without it. I rarely use a mouse--the pen is just always in my hand--but, like Bob--couldn't 'drive' PS without it. I do have a small (can't remember what it is called) tablet for travel--my second one. My husband absconded with my first so I had to buy another LOL.

    The new options Terry mentioned would be nice, but I'm so used to mine, that I actually don't think about it--its totally intuitive. I guess if you are left handed and want to use it off desk the hookup might matter. I have enough cable to allow me to use it as I want though.

    Diane
    I deleted my original post a few minutes after posting. Sorry folks. The problems I had with the Intuos3 were simple....

    I'm a lefty so I could never get comfy because the buttons were on the wrong side. The Intuos4 has two usb plugs so you can orient it in either direction. I was out mouse shopping today and was tempted to simply just give the tablet one more try now that the new ones seem to work better for southpaws.

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    Re: Has anyone tried an Intuos 4 Tablet?

    Terry,
    Sorry, but as a moderator, I can see deleted posts.
    Anyway I have the Intuos 4 large which I have positioned pretty much square in front of my screen (well a little to my non-dominant side).
    The keyboard lives at an angle, I use the intuos mouse which was a PITA until I got used to it.
    I don't understand why it would not be useful in lightroom, despite my loathing for that cretinous program.
    One can program buttons and pen actions on a pre-application basis. Is there lightroom stuff that can't be expressed in terms of a keystroke combination or a mouse click?
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    Re: Has anyone tried an Intuos 4 Tablet?

    In fact, I am so addicted I am thinking of picking up a small for use on the road.
    -bob

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    Re: Has anyone tried an Intuos 4 Tablet?

    Bob, can you put my original post back in?

    Yes for a cretin like me that is still using LR it doesn't have the pressure sensitive settings to use with the adjustment brushes and people have said that it is sluggish with the sliders.

    I know you pretty much switched from LR before LR2 but the addition of local adjustments is pretty fantastic especially for those of us without years and years of built up Photoshop knowledge.

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    Re: Has anyone tried an Intuos 4 tablet?

    ok, I did that and merged the threads.
    Well, Lightroom 2 still leaves me cold since it does almost nothing of what I need, but anyway, if it is controllable with a mouse and keyboard, it can be controlled with a pen and tablet.
    You may not be able to use the pressure sensitivity features, but I still think it is worth a try.
    Just try retouching out 250 zits and 50-100 stray hairs without one LOL.
    Some folks need a bit of time to get used to the pen interface.
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    Last edited by Bob; 12th September 2009 at 17:28.

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    Re: Has anyone tried an Intuos 4 tablet?

    Bob....

    Thanks for merging the threads.

    The other issue that us Panasonic users have is the lack of support in C1 and at least LR allows for a single workflow.

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    Re: Has anyone tried an Intuos 4 tablet?

    And us phase users have have no support in lightroom.
    Anyway, I try ot to co-mingle raw conversion with image editing, which is what lightroom tries to do.
    Fine for some stuff, but not real useful when you might want to use a large radius low percentage unsharp mask or maybe when a little liquify might help.
    With the M8 and the Canon, I have used lightroom for browsing, but then invoked photoshop for editing.
    How about some hands-on in Oregon?
    thanks
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    Re: Has anyone tried an Intuos 4 tablet?

    Sure...be glad to you can also play on my laptop during the really boring sections of the drive up to Oregon....and there are a lot of very boring stretches on that drive.

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    Re: Has anyone tried an Intuos 4 tablet?

    I have the 4x6. It's about a year old and has about hmmm, how do you judge mileage on a tablet? I guess I used it for maybe a total of 30 minutes. Stuffed it back in the box and it just sits there on the shelf. If anyone's interested, make me an offer. Any offer (almost).

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    Re: Has anyone tried an Intuos 4 tablet?

    I use mine about 30 minutes a day.

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    Re: Has anyone tried an Intuos 4 tablet?

    Cynthia corrects me, it is 30 minutes per hour

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    Re: Has anyone tried an Intuos 4 tablet?

    Quote Originally Posted by TRSmith View Post
    I have the 4x6. It's about a year old and has about hmmm, how do you judge mileage on a tablet? I guess I used it for maybe a total of 30 minutes. Stuffed it back in the box and it just sits there on the shelf. If anyone's interested, make me an offer. Any offer (almost).
    I also bought a 4x6 that just sits there for the reasons listed in the first post. So, for anyone reading this there are two available. The Intuos4 is supposed to be a big leap forward.

    Bob- would you consider it a big leap?

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    Re: Has anyone tried an Intuos 4 tablet?

    the things I like about the Intuos 4 are:
    1) lower profile design and smooth transition on the edge.
    2) (don't laugh) sticky rubber feet so it stays put
    3) smoother pressure quantization
    4) slightly toothier surface
    5) tough wheel instead of touch strips (although now I use ctl-option shortcut for brush size instead
    Features which are nice but not as earth-shaking as the list above:
    1) lcd display of function button assignments. It would be nice if the mac keyboard had these. They are not directly visible on the small, but an on-screen version is available.
    Features which are just wrong:
    1) function buttons don't feel as good and have less tactile feedback than the Intuos-3
    2) radial menu mis-feature. Does not work with MacOs spaces. radial menu always takes you back to space 1 (how stupid can you get)

    So, if you care about pen pressure quantization, then it is a big leap
    If you care about lcd display of function buttons, then it is a big leap
    otherwise
    it is a small hop.
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    Re: Has anyone tried an Intuos 4 tablet?

    Also, if you get one that is large enough that you can just throw away your regular mouse, then the tablet stays in place and it tends to get used for everything, such as this message.
    OTOH, there are better mice, but the intuos-4 mouse I think was an improvement although not up to the level of the mighty mouse, but I don't really care.
    Now if I could just also use my fingers and make MacOS gestures too, that would be sweet.
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    Re: Has anyone tried an Intuos 4 tablet?

    Anybody want to buy a 3? It sits on my desl to impress potential clients, but I *NEVER* use it.

    I have the original box and mouse and everything. It's the 6x8 size.

    Oh, and did I mention I never use it?

    Heck, maybe I'll give it away as a door prize on the Oregon workshop!

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    Re: Has anyone tried an Intuos 4 tablet?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob View Post
    Also, if you get one that is large enough that you can just throw away your regular mouse, then the tablet stays in place and it tends to get used for everything, such as this message.
    OTOH, there are better mice, but the intuos-4 mouse I think was an improvement although not up to the level of the mighty mouse, but I don't really care.
    Now if I could just also use my fingers and make MacOS gestures too, that would be sweet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TEBnewyork View Post
    I have an Intuos 3 tablet that I never use but the Intuos 4 seems like it solved the things that annoyed me

    1. Left handed use (now can plug in from either direction so express keys are handy)
    2. Express keys have changeable LED labels and change by application so you can see what the keys do

    If you own it do you like it are is it all good or are there annoying aspects to using it?
    Hi Terry,

    There's enough cable on the 3 that positioning should not be a real issue, I don't really understand why its such a hindrance to you. Intuoso 3 is quite a fantastic product, the 4 seems to have a few more bells and whistles but I don't really see any difference in the way that they work. IMO if you're not using your 3, the 4 is not going to change anything for you. Personally, I use my tablets all the time and even travel with them, but I don't ever recall using them with LR or LR2.

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    Re: Has anyone tried an Intuos 4 tablet?

    The express keys were on the left and I hold the pen on the left so I couldn't use those keys very easily. Perhaps I wasn't using it right but they have certainly made the case that the 4 works better for lefties.

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    Terry,its nice to know that some one considers us lefties,maybe we should make a list of products that dont penalize us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TEBnewyork View Post
    The express keys were on the left and I hold the pen on the left so I couldn't use those keys very easily. Perhaps I wasn't using it right but they have certainly made the case that the 4 works better for lefties.
    On the 3 they had the keys on both sides of the tablet, unless you have the smallest one with only one set of keys on the left. With the 4 its a strip of keys and a wheel only on the left side of it but the tablet is reversible. This is slightly better ergonomics and might enhance the experience a bit but it doesn't change the actual purpose or the way that you use a pen and tablet. Besides the joy and/or motivation that sometimes comes with of a new acquisition, I don't see how the 4 will change things for you if you haven't used your 3, they really do the exact same job equally well.

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    Re: Has anyone tried an Intuos 4 tablet?

    Quote Originally Posted by ddk View Post
    On the 3 they had the keys on both sides of the tablet, unless you have the smallest one with only one set of keys on the left. With the 4 its a strip of keys and a wheel only on the left side of it but the tablet is reversible. This is slightly better ergonomics and might enhance the experience a bit but it doesn't change the actual purpose or the way that you use a pen and tablet. Besides the joy and/or motivation that sometimes comes with of a new acquisition, I don't see how the 4 will change things for you if you haven't used your 3, they really do the exact same job equally well.
    I had a small 3 with only the one strip. I like using the pen I just bought the wrong model of the unit and could never get it situated correctly in my NY working space and I definitely couldn't fit a larger one. I like that the medium on the 4 has the tags right on the keys for what they do and now in SF I have a better work area. There is always ebay for the 3 and even the 4 if I'm not using it. I will be back in NY next week getting my apartment ready "staged" for sale so I'm sure you will see a bunch of things in the buy/sell section or on ebay or donated! Maybe I should list my apartment on the buy sell.....sure saves a lot in brokers commission!

    This all started as I was looking to replace a mouse and looking around for one I really liked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TEBnewyork View Post
    ....This all started as I was looking to replace a mouse and looking around for one I really liked.

    That's how these things happen

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diane B View Post
    That's how these things happen
    LOL ...

    I have an Intuos3, cant remember the size but it's the right size for me. I've had it for some years.

    I use it a bit in Photoshop when I really need to do careful selections, which is rarely, and I use it in Lightroom when I'm working a photo that requires a lot of careful selective brushing.

    I find it awkward to use an absolute position input device any other time and prefer a simple mouse (yes, one with only one button ;-) ...

    But that's me. Others differ.

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    Re: Has anyone tried an Intuos 4 tablet?

    I have a lovely Wacom Cintiq 12WX that I have used for 20 minutes or so, then put back in the box. I just don't do the pixel pushing that I used to do. It was a revelation though, doing a selection on someone's eye or teeth by drawing directly on the photo. It's so much more intuitive than a regular tablet.

    $800 to a good home (20% off).

    http://www.wacom.com/cintiq/cintiq-12wx.php

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    Re: Has anyone tried an Intuos 4 tablet?

    Quote Originally Posted by bradhusick View Post
    I have a lovely Wacom Cintiq 12WX that I have used for 20 minutes or so, then put back in the box. I just don't do the pixel pushing that I used to do. It was a revelation though, doing a selection on someone's eye or teeth by drawing directly on the photo. It's so much more intuitive than a regular tablet.

    $800 to a good home (20% off).

    http://www.wacom.com/cintiq/cintiq-12wx.php
    I actually would love to have it Brad....however, it will cost me a lot more than $800. I am running a 30" cinema display off of a 15" MBP and as far as I know it is impossible to run both which means I would need to buy a MacPro

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    Re: Has anyone tried an Intuos 4 tablet?

    Terry, you deserve a MacPro. Think of it as half the price of a 24mm Summilux.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bradhusick View Post
    Terry, you deserve a MacPro. Think of it as half the price of a 24mm Summilux.
    Well I got over the 24 lux by selling my M8

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    Re: Has anyone tried an Intuos 4 tablet?

    Terry,
    I have an Intuos4 6x8 and am a lefty. It works a lot better than the Intuos3, especially for us lefties. I would highly recommend it. It also works flawlessly with my MacBook Pro. I thought about the Cintiq but didn't because of the same reasons as you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TEBnewyork View Post
    Almost a year ago I wrote to Apple asking them to make the trackpad on the laptops as a standalone external input device. I can't believe they don't sell it for all of their iMac and MacPro users.
    Wacom make the Bamboo Touch. I just came from the store with one so I will try it out on the desktop to see how similar it is to the Trackpad. I prefer a dual setup with a mouse and the trackpad. Some are better for some things than the other. The mouse is more precise and faster to move onscreen while the trackpad allows quick gestures for multiple functions.
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