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    CS5 WOW!

    Saw a preview of the soon to be released CS5. Some of the new tools defy the imagination. Can't wait!

    -Marc

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    Quote Originally Posted by fotografz View Post
    Saw a preview of the soon to be released CS5. Some of the new tools defy the imagination. Can't wait!

    -Marc
    New LR 3.2 beta has much improved noise reduction....almost a stop improvement according to some. I find that it makes a huge difference.

    Nice to see new tools that improve old captures.

    I will pre-purchase this one.

    Bob

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    I just saw this regarding the new CS5: http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/2010/03...w-party-piece/

    Content aware fill----Impressive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kdphotography View Post
    I just saw this regarding the new CS5: http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/2010/03...w-party-piece/

    Content aware fill----Impressive.
    That's why I said ... WOW!

    IMO, this changes everything. It is the single greatest retouching leap forward yet.

    Hope they get this out before my wedding season starts ... combined with LR3 my workflow time will be cut in half.

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    I would suggest tempering our excitement a bit --- note they did not show us the actual pixel view of what those manufactured edges look like, nor was any mention made of how big the original file was. I remain a bit skeptical, even though the technology definitely looks promising, and I will definitely be upgrading.
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    I will upgrade as well. I hear it is faster as well on a Mac. Always have the need for speed.
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    Re: CS5 WOW!

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Flesher View Post
    I would suggest tempering our excitement a bit --- note they did not show us the actual pixel view of what those manufactured edges look like, nor was any mention made of how big the original file was. I remain a bit skeptical, even though the technology definitely looks promising, and I will definitely be upgrading.
    I'm also a bit skeptical, the fixing of the garbage on the grass didn't look good, looked like the usual healing tool gone wrong. The shadow fix under the chair also didn't look natural. The branches thingy looked good but copying over sky is not that difficult for a program to do.

    Methinks this tool will work well for a given set of parameters just as the healing tool does and that the idea that it is as magic as it looks might be rather misleading.

    I'm looking forward to being proven wrong as usual! What I am excited about is the new Bridge CS5 and ACR 6. The advancements between those from CS3 to CS4 were more than dramatic and I'm looking forward to seeing what they've done this time.
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    Re: CS5 WOW!

    Looks a great tool for removing watermarks!

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    Re: CS5 WOW!

    Quote Originally Posted by ReeRay View Post
    Looks a great tool for removing watermarks!
    Wow that would be sort of devious

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    I'll just bet it knows text from image components, just like it can recognize currency in the scan importer...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Flesher View Post
    I'll just bet it knows text from image components, just like it can recognize currency in the scan importer...
    Hope you're right.

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    If one is not picky about how things appear at 100% then I think it may be useful in limited situations.
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    Well I think there maybe more cleanup than meets the eye in the video for sure.
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    It does look like it may have a fair number of goodies for many folks. This version should also be full 64-bit on the Mac.....finally, and that may help with some things. The new clone tool does look pretty powerful. As Bob mentioned, will have to see what it looks like at pixel level, as well as just how intelligent it is. Just hoping we do not start seeing even more alteration and revision of history, as this example that popped up again:

    http://new.music.yahoo.com/blogs/sto...aphic-history/

    And I concur about the watermark removal from JPEGs....keep looking for more tools that actually embed it in file IPTC so that it travels everywhere. However, that still will not stop folks from stealing if they want.

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    I wonder about posting files with two perpendicular columns missing as part of a watermark....vertical and horizontal that would be hard to heal yet allow almost complete vision of the picture on the web.

    A quick action as final step prior to post...would discourage most of would be theft as most do not like to work that hard.



    Not very aesthetic but may be somewhat effective.

    Thoughts?

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    Not a bad idea Bob... Could even make it a "golden mean" grid stamp
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Flesher View Post
    Not a bad idea Bob... Could even make it a "golden mean" grid stamp
    I like that idea...

    Bob

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    Be a nice idea if you could NOT use the healing, content aware and cloning brushes from a jpeg. Only a original Tif or file tied into the serial number of CS5 as the owner of the image. Nice idea
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    Bob and others,
    Not knowing exactly how the healing brush works, why would the missing columns of data be a deterrent? Could one not just do selections on parts of the columns where there is nearby data to fill in? Just wondering. Yes, that would take a bit of extra work, but if somebody really like your image, and had any time and skill, it would still be stolen and used, I would think.

    Another option is to use the Digimarc protection. That would still not prevent folks from doing screenshot copies, or other methods, but if the image was reposted, the owner would be notified. (There is some sort of coding placed into the image itself that is not easily viewed/seen, but is picked up with Web detection tools....steganography of a sort.) It costs per image, but may be worth it for some fine art. Cannot "heal" or "clone" it out.

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    You are correct that with enough time and skill most data can be interpolated to fill in...harder with diagonals but not impossible. However, for a non-pro paying for Digimarc does not pan out.

    Just trying to raise low hanging fruit to discourage those who would otherwise grab and run.

    I doubt that most would put the effort into the majority of pictures found in JPG form on the web...definitely none of mine!

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    Re: CS5 WOW!

    I might be able to post some samples soon if I can find them.
    Is there anything in particular you might be interested in?
    -bob
    Last edited by Bob; 26th March 2010 at 13:02.

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    Re: CS5 WOW!

    I spent 3 minutes on this with the CS5 Beta.

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    Ah, but the real power of the new content aware tool in CS5 can be seen in this video clip.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ScWu7pG7r0

    big smile, big smile,

    LJ

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    Re: CS5 WOW!

    Quote Originally Posted by LJL View Post
    Ah, but the real power of the new content aware tool in CS5 can be seen in this video clip.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ScWu7pG7r0

    big smile, big smile,

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    LJ,
    please, the beta testers were told not to show those features until tomorrow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TRSmith View Post
    I spent 3 minutes on this with the CS5 Beta.
    Very nice...I have a bunch of damaged files that will benefit from this.

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    Re: CS5 WOW!

    CS5 on a Mac: memory and scratch
    Now it can take advantage of just about as much memory as you can throw at it.
    Performance is hard to evaluate as it seems that there is significant debugging code in the beta that hopefully will not be in the final.
    Its performance preference pane now permits setting the memory limit really high, but Adobe suggests that you leave 30% free for other tasks. Scratch files still exist, since I guess there is guarantee that your image will not take up all available memory. I have edited several 4GB plus files and so far, CS5 has yet to touch the scratch volume in my 24GB system. The ability of dealing with large memory allows more cache levels and history states without an apparent performance hit.

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    Re: CS5 WOW!

    CS5, the old way:
    First, here is a typical before and after retouch using CS5, nothing really new was used here, just a test drive to see that the usual stuff is working

    -bob

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    Re: CS5 WOW!

    Quote Originally Posted by LJL View Post
    Ah, but the real power of the new content aware tool in CS5 can be seen in this video clip.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ScWu7pG7r0

    big smile, big smile,

    LJ
    Okay, that is frigging hysterical!!!!!
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    Loved the video.

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    CS5 is going to be every boy teens dream, if that video is correct

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    That was great so for gear sluts everywhere are credit cards are safe we can just use content aware. Imagine what we want and presto.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LJL View Post
    Ah, but the real power of the new content aware tool in CS5 can be seen in this video clip.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ScWu7pG7r0

    big smile, big smile,

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    Quote Originally Posted by LJL View Post
    Ah, but the real power of the new content aware tool in CS5 can be seen in this video clip.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ScWu7pG7r0

    big smile, big smile,

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    CS5 is definitely a great upgrade and also very welcome the changes in the Video editing apps.

    Cudos to Adobe to do what they did with CS5, I was very happy with CS4 but now, true, wow.

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    Re: CS5 WOW!

    http://www.robgalbraith.com/bins/con...=7-10050-10615

    Things that excite me, the new ACR, new cropping tool, new straighten tool, automised lens correction (I use PTLens currently), save 16bit file to jpg (I always forget to change down), Save as remembers the last folder (welcome to this century Adobe), workspace names as buttons.

    That and the new clone tools look quite exciting.
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