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    New Capture One Pro Version 4.5/Download

    here you go. Please discuss this on this thread in the Image processing section. Thanks Guy

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    Re: New Capture One Pro Version 4.5/Download

    Follow these instructions

    Delete 4. Delete preferences/cache/application support. Per uninstall instructions:
    http://phaseone.com/HOME/Content/Sup...4&LanguageID=1

    This is for Mac
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    The D700 files look great and are as close to accurate as possible color-wise, when I use the D2x profile as opposed to the D700 profile.

    This is not surprising as it is universally acknowledged that Nikon's D2x profile is its most accurate color-wise ever. As you know, pros begged Nikon to release their D2x profiles to add to the picture control menu on all the recent cameras, if they so desired. I did. Thus, I shoot with the Nikon D2x profile as my picture control profile on my D700! Maybe that's why the D2x profile works so beautifully! But boy what a beauty it is!

    Try it folks and let us know what you think.

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    Re: New Capture One Pro Version 4.5/Download

    Was just going to post that the Nikons are supported even the D90. All Caon except the new 5d and all Olympus 4/3rds including the 520 .Leica support as well and many others
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    > Thus, I shoot with the Nikon D2x profile as my picture control profile on my D700

    AFAIK, the D2x and other picture controls are tags in raw files that are only correctly interpreted in Nikon Capture. Camera Raw now has its own implementation (not using Nikon profiles) of these D2x (and other) picture styles.

    But Capture One? I don't think you'll see a difference between raw file shot with standard vs. other styles, or did I miss something?
    Last edited by hermie; 15th October 2008 at 14:29.

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    Re: New Capture One Pro Version 4.5/Download

    Careful of the word styles with C1 because they are something different. They give you B&W with high contrasts , med contrast and all sorts of style looks. What you mean are the camera profiles for different camera's . Yes the Nikon's,Leica,Olympus, Canons etc are considered a generic profile but it is what Phase One created most likely using color charts and such. I can check on this further if you want. First C1 needs to see those camera's but there generic profiles are made from C1. But you are correct C1 will not see those tags in the Nikon like it will in NX

    When Doug frees up from his CI demo's today he will be back on tomorrow or so and can describe this a little better for folks. Doug is the technical guru for Capture Integration which sells and support Phase products, he also beta tested this and is a very bright tech guy.
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    > What you mean are the camera profiles for different camera's .

    Absolutely. I intentionally referred to these camera profiles as 'picture controls' since that's what they are called in NX and in camera settings.

    > Yes the Nikon's,Leica,Olympus, Canons etc are considered a generic profile but it is what Phase One created most likely using color charts and such.

    Agreed

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    Re: New Capture One Pro Version 4.5/Download

    Great Hermie. I was hoping that was what you were referring too. C1 so far folks looks really really nice
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mancuso View Post
    Great Hermie. I was hoping that was what you were referring too. C1 so far folks looks really really nice
    I agree that C1 does look really really nice. The first one one taken over the weekend at a local farmer's market. The second, with the skewed perspective, I shot on a walk. Both were converted using C1. I am very pleased with the colors as compared to what I got from 2 other programs. I can almost taste the peppers in the first!

    Happy Shooting.

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    Re: New Capture One Pro Version 4.5/Download

    Looks really good.

    Try this on the second tree image . Go into styles and hit Exposure -high dynamic range 1 and watch your shadows open up. Pretty cool
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    Guy,

    Does the non-pro version of Capture One 4.5 have styles? I couldn't find it so I haven't been able to implement your suggestion. Any help would be appreciated.

    Thanks,

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    Re: New Capture One Pro Version 4.5/Download

    Not sure it should have .Go on the top line to adjustments than a drop down to styles. it is also in the third tab right under the histo. Now I also am not so sure there is a non pro version of 4.5. Check this to make sure. 4 tabs over the 3 circle icon , click that now do you see color editor
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    Re: New Capture One Pro Version 4.5/Download

    I think it is Pro only . I will get Doug on this

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mancuso View Post
    I think it is Pro only . I will get Doug on this

    http://www.phaseone.com/Content/Downloads/CO4.aspx
    It is in fact pro only. I had upgraded but as i had not activated the key, when I downloaded, I just got Capture 4.5(not pro). When you upgrade, you need to go into capture one's license tab, deactivate the old license and then put in the new license key. Then Capture one pro pops up!

    The "styles" addition is tres cool.

    I am noticing that when one processes from Capture 1 pro, the preference box for processing is gone. Thus, you can only convert files with an adobe profile and as a TIF. I gather I am missing something being new to Capture One pro but figured I woukd ask the expert!

    Thanks again

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mancuso View Post
    I think it is Pro only . I will get Doug on this

    http://www.phaseone.com/Content/Downloads/CO4.aspx
    Okay, now I feel really stupid. I found the process recipe and was able to change the recipe as I wanted.

    Gus, I've tried the styles and converted the tree picture with HDR1. I like it. When I use HDR + 1, it lightens the entire image and in this case, the image is a tad more yellow. Your thoughts?

    I think that once you wrap your skills around Capture One Pro, you should offer a workshop in the Northeast on Getting the Most Out Of Capture One Pro. I would sign up.

    Thanks again

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    Re: New Capture One Pro Version 4.5/Download

    I think a workshop is in order for sure. this program has a lot of power to it and the learning curve will be there but the results are great from C1 and I have been using it since my 1ds days.

    Now that opened the shadows up nicely just need to adjust back down on exposure when using some of the styles but that looks much better now and still has nice blacks and gave it a much smoother tonal range. Nice work.

    Might just want to slide your color temp a shade to cooler if too much yellow . I will try this also and see if there is any color shift.

    Now you can also use the High Dynamic range controls which I use all the time for opening shadows and recovering highlights . Much better control of the image
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    Guy,

    Thanks for your advise and considering putting together a workshop.

    Are you currently using the Nikon D700 profile or the Nikon D2x profile. I find the colors, especially of skin tones better when I use the Nikon D2x profile but that may be because I've not yet learned to use the skintone function.

    Thanks again for your thoughts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mancuso View Post
    I think it is Pro only . I will get Doug on this
    HDR is indicated as a feature for both regular and pro versions on the web site!
    Ref: http://www.phaseone.com/4/ , click on "4 vs PRO"

    It is really the case for the non-pro? Are there two different features?

    Yes, maybe Doug can clarify that to us!
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    Re: New Capture One Pro Version 4.5/Download

    Quote Originally Posted by sebasco View Post
    Guy,

    Thanks for your advise and considering putting together a workshop.

    Are you currently using the Nikon D700 profile or the Nikon D2x profile. I find the colors, especially of skin tones better when I use the Nikon D2x profile but that may be because I've not yet learned to use the skintone function.

    Thanks again for your thoughts.
    Mine is the Phase Back P25 Plus and the Oly 520. No Nikons now but folks do love the D2x profiles i know in NX. One of those things have to play around with to find your happy spot.
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    Re: New Capture One Pro Version 4.5/Download

    For clarity:

    In Capture One "styles" means a collection of adjustments which can be applied to both incoming tethered shots (so that the art director / model see the image pop up with your look already applied), or to imported images or previous captures.

    As an example I have created a style with the following settings:
    Exposure: +1EV
    Contrast: +20
    HDR Highlight recovery: 30
    saturation: -30
    color editor: Add saturation to, and darken blues, rotate skin-tone red towards olive
    clarity: +20
    sharpening: 140, 0.9 px, 1.0 threshold
    lens correction: slight vignette applied

    This creates a high-key, porcelain skin-tone look which is (to me) somehow japanese-ish which I love for female portraits. I can select an image and rather than having to set every parameter individually, just flick the style dial to "DEP Japanese Portrait". Or I can set "Next Capture Adjustments" to "defaults with style: DEP Japanese Portrait" and what the model sees pop up on the screen from the first to last shot is this look. Now the model (and even most art directors) don't know what's going on behind the scenes, so they will attribute much of this look to your lighting/camera/knowledge, which makes you a unique asset (they can't easily go to someone else and say "shoot this style for me").

    When you go to apply a style you'll find it gives you a real-time preview of the effect of applying that style. This allows you to compare several possible styles very quickly. If you wanted to compare them in more detail just create several variants of the image and then apply a different style to each. The total time to do this in photoshop would be enormous; doing it in Capture One it takes seconds and has the added benefit of staying in raw. Then when you've nailed the exact look you can copy paste (apple-shift C, apple-shift V) that look to hundreds of other images in seconds.

    There are also several included styles. You may like them or hate them but they are an easy way to see what is possible and you can use them as starting points for your own styles. Apply a style, enhance/refine it, and save it as your own.

    Also note that you include whether to include a particular adjustment in any given style, which means that you can keep adjustments, such as minor exposure and WB tweaks during a shoot in dynamic light, separate from the adjustments you are using to create a look (e.g. contrast/saturation etc).

    Now styles is only available in Pro, but most of the underlying adjustments which are being collected by a style are available in both pro and non-pro (clarity, color editor, and vignette are exceptions from my example). This is a workflow/speed/convenience feature.

    The single guiding principal of Capture One is to save you time and allow you to create a unique look (your visual artistic signature) without the need to individually photoshop that look into each image. Styles is one big component of this principal.

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    Re: New Capture One Pro Version 4.5/Download

    Is it true the Pro version only works on Mac Intel and Leopard?

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    Re: New Capture One Pro Version 4.5/Download

    Great explanation Doug... I need to relearn Capture One after a long lay off but it was my go to program for several years. So far I like what I'm seeing a lot. Just need to think through my workflow yet again and see where it fits in.

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    Re: New Capture One Pro Version 4.5/Download

    Doug
    Nice summary. These styles can be saved and applied across C1 4.5, yes?

    Also I saw that the color wheel can be edited and then saved as an ICC profile. I di d this for a profile for my M8 and never went back to filters (even works for tuxes)

    not perfect, but I like the fact that you can adjust for vignette. I hate cenetr filters and this says I can use say the zeiss 15mm WO center filter on my M8 and then adjust with the vignette style. This can be a winner if I ever get thru the manual

    BTW, is it also 64 bit compatible? I have a machine and was reluctant to change to win 64 bit JUST because C1 and C3 were a little shakey and did not take advantage of the 64 bit (mere memory extension doesnt work. you need 64 bit CODE)

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    Re: New Capture One Pro Version 4.5/Download

    These styles can be saved and applied across C1 4.5, yes?
    It's not intuitive, but to save a style you go into the adjustments menu and you'll find a tab on the bottom that says "Styles." Here you can save the selected adjustments as a new Style set.

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    Re: New Capture One Pro Version 4.5/Download

    Quote Originally Posted by sebasco View Post
    It is in fact pro only. I had upgraded but as i had not activated the key, when I downloaded, I just got Capture 4.5(not pro). When you upgrade, you need to go into capture one's license tab, deactivate the old license and then put in the new license key. Then Capture one pro pops up!
    I can't seem to get mine to activate as C1 Pro no matter what. I've tried deactivating and reactivating everywhere, with no success... The About dialog says 4.5.1. I've sent a message to P1 tech support, but no response yet.

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    Re: New Capture One Pro Version 4.5/Download

    Jan:

    Have you loaded your license data in the license dialog under prefs? I had to do that manually before the Pro version activated.
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    Re: New Capture One Pro Version 4.5/Download

    Quote Originally Posted by Jan Brittenson View Post
    I can't seem to get mine to activate as C1 Pro no matter what. I've tried deactivating and reactivating everywhere, with no success... The About dialog says 4.5.1. I've sent a message to P1 tech support, but no response yet.
    Jan:

    Try installing it into a separate folder.

    I noticed that when I installed it into my applications folder, it automatically grabbed my C1v4 license and. If I installed it into its own folder, I was able to choose to demo the pro version. I only have a C1v4 license from the M8, not a pro license.

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    Re: New Capture One Pro Version 4.5/Download

    my "pro" copy comes up but calls itself "Capture One" though it indicates under the license Capture One Pro.

    i don't even know how to tell the diff between normal4.5 and pro 4.5

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    Re: New Capture One Pro Version 4.5/Download

    Quote Originally Posted by jlm View Post
    my "pro" copy comes up but calls itself "Capture One" though it indicates under the license Capture One Pro.

    i don't even know how to tell the diff between normal4.5 and pro 4.5
    The normal version doesn't have the lens corrections tab, which has a lens as the icon.

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    Re: New Capture One Pro Version 4.5/Download

    Or the color profile editor...
    I used spotlight to find all the app data support folders and whatnot and wiped them, and reinstalled, but still no go. I've canceled and reentered my license info, which makes no difference. The program says I have one free upgrade left while the online one says I have two. But all the activations and deactivations I try show up in the online license manager. I bet something is totally screwed up in their back end license manager.

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    Re: New Capture One Pro Version 4.5/Download

    Are you supposed to uninstall Capture One before you download latest version?

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    Re: New Capture One Pro Version 4.5/Download

    On Mac it doesn't really have an uninstaller since you install it by dropping it on the app folder. Uninstalling consists of deleting the app - and, manually hunting down its preference files and such. Spotlight is very helpful for the latter. But yes, you're supposed to uninstall it first, which is part of the problem since it's not designed to use an installer (pkg).

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    Re: New Capture One Pro Version 4.5/Download

    I downloaded the latest version and now when Im editing it crashes.

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    Re: New Capture One Pro Version 4.5/Download

    I know what the problem is now. The Pro tools only show up in the main C1 Pro window. I like to have the main window on my secondary display and use it to browse files, then adjust settings on my main display, using the second C1 Pro window. In this Window, none of the Pro tools will show.

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    Re: New Capture One Pro Version 4.5/Download

    Oh, wait - they will. Just not by default. The palettes need to be customized...

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    Re: New Capture One Pro Version 4.5/Download

    Ooh - it lets you add custom tabs as well! Just right click in the toolbar. Woo!

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    Re: New Capture One Pro Version 4.5/Download

    Okay, well that was fun for a few minutes. Then it crashed, and now it crashes immediately whenever I try to start it. Sigh.

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    Re: New Capture One Pro Version 4.5/Download

    Jan:

    Nuke every folder C1 related (other than images) and re-install -----

    Working fine on my Mac Pro and MacBookPro
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    I brought it back to life again by unmounting the Drobo so it couldn't auto jump to the last folder I browsed. If remount the Drobo and navigate around it crashes after a little while, then keeps crashing until I unmount the Drobo again. So it seems to have problems with existing image data stored by C1 Pro 3.7 or C1 4. Maybe in conjunction with some setting I changed.

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    Re: New Capture One Pro Version 4.5/Download

    Ah. I had a similar issue, but one of the last DROBO software/firmware updates eliminated it. Weird and not sure it was related, but you might want to see that your DROBO software and firmware is current.
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    Re: New Capture One Pro Version 4.5/Download

    Here's what I get on the console... Nothing terribly useful. My mail inbox is full of replies acknowledging my feedback.
    11/3/08 3:46:25 PM Capture One[45176] This is Capture One 4.5.1.23248.23205
    11/3/08 3:46:34 PM Capture One[45176] current SessionDocument is now 1a6b8920
    11/3/08 3:46:59 PM [0x0-0x882882].com.phaseone.captureone[45176] 2008-11-03 15:46:25> System ready
    11/3/08 3:46:59 PM CrashReporter[45179] Capture One terminated unexpectedly - preparing report
    11/3/08 3:46:59 PM [0x0-0x882882].com.phaseone.captureone[45176] 2008-11-03 15:46:59.825 CrashReporter[45179:30b] Capture One terminated unexpectedly - preparing report
    11/3/08 3:47:02 PM com.apple.launchd[178] ([0x0-0x882882].com.phaseone.captureone[45176]) Stray process with PGID equal to this dead job: PID 45177 PPID 1 ImgCoreProcess
    11/3/08 3:47:02 PM com.apple.launchd[178] ([0x0-0x882882].com.phaseone.captureone[45176]) Exited abnormally: Abort trap
    11/3/08 3:47:02 PM [0x0-0x882882].com.phaseone.captureone arg 0: 45888 ""
    11/3/08 3:47:02 PM [0x0-0x882882].com.phaseone.captureone Initialized
    11/3/08 3:47:02 PM [0x0-0x882882].com.phaseone.captureone 2008-11-03 15:46:26> System ready
    11/3/08 3:47:02 PM [0x0-0x882882].com.phaseone.captureone Socket broken, exiting
    11/3/08 3:47:02 PM [0x0-0x882882].com.phaseone.captureone Exiting
    11/3/08 3:47:02 PM [0x0-0x882882].com.phaseone.captureone 2008-11-03 15:47:02> Shutting down
    11/3/08 3:47:03 PM com.apple.launchd[1] (com.apple.UserNotificationCenter[45183]) Exited: Terminated
    11/3/08 3:47:03 PM com.apple.launchd[1] (com.apple.UserNotificationCenter) Throttling respawn: Will start in 10 seconds
    11/3/08 3:47:13 PM com.apple.launchd[1] (com.apple.UserNotificationCenter[45185]) Exited: Terminated
    11/3/08 3:49:59 PM CrashReporter[45179] Successfully sent crash report to Phase One A/S
    11/3/08 3:49:59 PM [0x0-0x882882].com.phaseone.captureone 2008-11-03 15:49:59.471 CrashReporter[45179:30b] Successfully sent crash report to Phase One A/S

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    Re: New Capture One Pro Version 4.5/Download

    Jan:

    Are you using any custom profiles? I was getting crashes if I chose one of the Joseph Holmes profiles for the output profile. I got around it by starting in the non-pro version and changing my output profile to ProPhoto.

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    Re: New Capture One Pro Version 4.5/Download

    Yes, I use JH Chrome Space 100 for everything!

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    Re: New Capture One Pro Version 4.5/Download

    Quote Originally Posted by Jan Brittenson View Post
    Yes, I use JH Chrome Space 100 for everything!
    I would email Joseph Holmes and see if he has a fix. Let me know what you find out.

    Otherwise, try deleting C1 Pro, reinstall, don't license, start in C1 V4.5.1 non-pro demo, change the default file space to something else.

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    Re: New Capture One Pro Version 4.5/Download

    Fixed in 4.5.2! Yay!

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    Re: New Capture One Pro Version 4.5/Download

    Just found a little secret in C1 get a image at 100 percent than add 15 clarity and watch it pop just a little more.
    Photography is all about experimentation and without it you will never learn art.

    www.guymancusophotography.com

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    Re: New Capture One Pro Version 4.5/Download

    anyone using 4.5.1 pro on a PC? i am finding it sluggish and it did just crash. also, how do you place the viewer on a second monitor?
    screen looks great and the controls are nice when they work

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    Re: New Capture One Pro Version 4.5/Download

    found it...choose "show viewer"

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