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    nikon 8000/9000 film carrier masks to scan xpan

    anyone know how to use these things to scan xpan negs? i cant seem to figure it out.

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    Re: nikon 8000/9000 film carrier masks to scan xpan

    There was another thread re this topic:

    http://forum.getdpi.com/forum/showth...highlight=xpan
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    Re: nikon 8000/9000 film carrier masks to scan xpan

    Nikon makes a special glass carrier for the 5000/9000 for the XPan format. God awful expensive (used to be about $350!) but works a charm.

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    Re: nikon 8000/9000 film carrier masks to scan xpan

    i have the glass carrier (FH-869G) and it comes with 2 black plastic strips. the problem is i do not know how to use them. the 2 together cover the entire glass frame. one by itsself only covers one set of holes in the neg. not sure what to do. can someone take a photo of how it should look?

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    Re: nikon 8000/9000 film carrier masks to scan xpan

    anyone got any info? i got 7 rolls of xpan'd slides coming back today looking to get some info before i attempt to scan them!

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    Re: nikon 8000/9000 film carrier masks to scan xpan

    Quote Originally Posted by drazin View Post
    i have the glass carrier (FH-869G) and it comes with 2 black plastic strips. the problem is i do not know how to use them. the 2 together cover the entire glass frame. one by itsself only covers one set of holes in the neg. not sure what to do. can someone take a photo of how it should look?
    My FH-869G came with these very thin black frames to be used as spacing with MF film. Those would not be useful with 35mm film.

    I'm not sure, but I seem to recall that there were some 35mm wide black plastic strips for the 35 mm film holder FH-835S as well, so you could block one opening if you only used one. Are those what you are referring to?
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    Re: nikon 8000/9000 film carrier masks to scan xpan

    the thin black plastic strips are for spacing of MF film? are you sure? MF film fits perfectly in the glass carrier...

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    Re: nikon 8000/9000 film carrier masks to scan xpan

    I am pretty sure you are supposed to use them with multiple strips of negatives on the glass carrier when BATCH scanning to eliminate the white frame gaps which would otherwise affect exposure -- even are supposed to use them to fill in the unused row on the dual row 35 tray, and with 16mm on the glass tray. However, if you are scanning one frame or strip at a time and pull the scan area borders back to the image, then it is moot and you don't need them. Personally, I never have needed or used them. Another tip for that scanner is to buy VueScan to run it. Funky UI but lots faster and cleaner, and as sharp of scan than Nikon's software delivers.
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    Re: nikon 8000/9000 film carrier masks to scan xpan

    i own vuescan. i am scanning 2 panoramic negatives at a time and on the glass surface of the MF glass carrier. when i dont mask out the sides, i get a weird bloom and light leak near the film spoke holes.....

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    Re: nikon 8000/9000 film carrier masks to scan xpan

    Yep they are for keeping the film away from the glass, to avoid newton rings.

    http://www.nikonusa.com/pdf/manuals/..._ac/FH869G.pdf

    BTW Note that Nikon refers to MF film as "Brownie" film - the name of the old Kodak that made it into Japanese language as a term for medium format.
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    Re: nikon 8000/9000 film carrier masks to scan xpan

    yeah... im doing ok with the medium format stuff... im just having a problem scanning xpan negs.

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    Re: nikon 8000/9000 film carrier masks to scan xpan

    I made my own spacing frames for 24x65, out of black plastic sheets.
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    did u use matte plastic? i may goto the art store and pick some up to play with tonight.

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    Re: nikon 8000/9000 film carrier masks to scan xpan

    Sorry, I misunderstood -- I was referring to the wider single strips of black plastic about the size of 35mm film, not the MF spacer cutouts. Does anybody bother with the white pads? I've personally never bothered and not noticed any issues...
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    Re: nikon 8000/9000 film carrier masks to scan xpan

    Jack - No I never bothered with the pads.

    Funny thing is, in my glass holder, the top glass (the "lid") had the matte surface up and glossy side down. If that was indeed anti-newton glass then wouldn't you expect the matte side to be down? I turned it over, and replaced the bottom glass with multicoated art glass, and now I have much less Newton rings. But they are still there.

    drazin - I used black paper at first but it's difficult to cut a clean edge without any loose fibers so try to find plastic like maybe a presentation file folder in thin black plastic. If you have to use paper, make sure you use a supersharp knife, prefeably a scalpel with a fresh blade.
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    Re: nikon 8000/9000 film carrier masks to scan xpan

    i think i might not have the right masks.... after searching around more.. it looks like the panoramic masks only come with the ROTATING glass carrier which is not the one i have... the 2 black masks which i have, are not for panoramic film...

    this sucks. i also read that they sold replacement pano masks for the rotating carrier which would work in the regular. anyone got a lead on where i could get that? ebay/b&h have none.

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    Re: nikon 8000/9000 film carrier masks to scan xpan

    Yep only the rotating holder comes with Xpan mask. That's why I made my own mask.
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    Re: nikon 8000/9000 film carrier masks to scan xpan

    can u take a picture of your home made mask?

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    Re: nikon 8000/9000 film carrier masks to scan xpan

    Quote Originally Posted by drazin View Post
    can u take a picture of your home made mask?
    Just a folded black paper frame, it goes inside the glass golder.
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    Re: nikon 8000/9000 film carrier masks to scan xpan

    on a similar note, why do all my previews have histograms like this (bunched up on the dark side) and are super dark? for the life of me, i can not get a full spectrum! any ideas?

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    Re: nikon 8000/9000 film carrier masks to scan xpan

    UGH. i may cave and buy the rotating carrier! either that, or im giving up with non MF negatives! THEY ARE TOO HARD TO SCAN!

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    another example of WTF why is this coming out so werid.

    that black around the neg is the home made mask i made....light is still getting up under the mask....slides are still really really dark.

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