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    Re: macOS Mojave: is it safe ?

    I am sure one cannot update Sony firmware on the new OS.
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    Re: macOS Mojave: is it safe ?

    I always wait a long time before updating a new OS, at least until I can't find any more disaster stories on the web.
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    Re: macOS Mojave: is it safe ?

    Quote Originally Posted by archiM44 View Post
    I always wait a long time before updating a new OS, at least until I can't find any more disaster stories on the web.
    Found any disaster stories?

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    Re: macOS Mojave: is it safe ?

    Quote Originally Posted by archiM44 View Post
    I always wait a long time before updating a new OS, at least until I can't find any more disaster stories on the web.
    You could do this:

    How to Install & Run macOS Mojave Beta in a Virtual Machine the Easy Way
    http://osxdaily.com/2018/08/28/insta...8OS+X+Daily%29
    With best regards, K-H.

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    Re: macOS Mojave: is it safe ?

    What is the rush? Wait six months

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    Re: macOS Mojave: is it safe ?

    Quote Originally Posted by k-hawinkler View Post
    How to Install & Run macOS Mojave Beta...
    Does anybody here know what a Beta software release is?

    It's a pre-production version that hopefully does what it's supposed to do.
    It's been tested sort of, far enough to know that it should not crash.
    The operative words being should not.

    - Leigh

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    I think that we are all aware of what a beta release is ... and that it is not the current Mac OS Mojave.
    Multiple betas have been released tested ... the Golden Master release was tested and now we have
    the first release of Mac OS 10.14 So we are past the beta stage.

    Even stable general releases can crash ... less so these days but still possible.

    While not perfect ... I have seen and endured worse.

    All the Adobe Blackmagic Resolve Studio 15 and major software products conform and run well ... all 32 bit programs are gone ...
    and a few glitches will need to be sorted ... like Apple pushing Metal and deprecating OpenGL.

    If you have current Mac hardware should be good ... but if like me you are trying to support a powerful
    but old MacPro 5.1, with Nvidia GPU ... which trounces all of the current Mac offerings ... you may have a
    bit of discomfort until new drivers will work with the buggy Metal implementation that Apple condigns appropriate
    for their OS.

    Roon VLC CuteClips3 need upgrades and my Dell 5K looks like an early VGA monitor until Nvidia can sort the changes in the
    non Beta OS.

    Nothing critical is missing and I am able to work without major constraint.

    So safe ... yes ... but make a complete backup prior to the upgrade and pay attention to all of the stuff Apple says
    you need to do to upgrade. So if something is not to your liking you can roll back to the old system.

    I was pleasantly surprised to find my 8 year old MacPro cheese grater is able to run Mojave. Trying to hold out for the ... now 2019 new MacPro. If only it is released by 2020.

    Truth is if you wait for the third update to this OS you will still have to sort the smaller software compatibility issues ...

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    Re: macOS Mojave: is it safe ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Leigh View Post
    Does anybody here know what a Beta software release is?

    It's a pre-production version that hopefully does what it's supposed to do.
    It's been tested sort of, far enough to know that it should not crash.
    The operative words being should not.

    - Leigh
    If you substitute macOS Mojave Beta with macOS Mojave the article shows you how to get that working in emulation.
    With best regards, K-H.

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    Since I've nothing to lose, not anything too serious anyway (and being a bit reckless by nature), I've jumped (of course).
    And so far so good even with Capture One Pro 11.3 ...

    As for you guys: just wait a little longer ...
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    Re: macOS Mojave: is it safe ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Knorp View Post
    Since I've nothing to lose, not anything too serious anyway (and being a bit reckless by nature), I've jumped (of course).
    And so far so good even with Capture One Pro 11.3 ...

    As for you guys: just wait a little longer ...
    Well, apparently you really need to wait a little longer ...

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    Just saying ...
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    Re: macOS Mojave: is it safe ?

    Perfect timing. I've had my email and computer hacked, and need to do a cold start anyway. Time to upgrade then

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    Re: macOS Mojave: is it safe ?

    I've been using Mojave for a few days now, and everything seems to work well. I like the dark mode too.

    In connection with this installation, I've experienced something very interesting:
    Since my email account had been hacked and I had a serious virus problem, I wanted to do a "clean installation". Apple doesn't offer that option anymore, which is a pitty. In addition to the virus problem, I also thought my battery was dying after 4 years of heavy use. Sometimes it didn't last longer than an hour. However, after the clean install it lasts for 3-4 hours. Clearly not like new, but dramatically better then before. Apparently, many interesting leftovers were crawling around at the bottom of my computer, eating processing capacity and battery life. Another effect is that the computer doesn't get as warm as it used to.

    The clean install requires some use of Terminal, and I felt a bit like living in the old MS-DOS days, but it was rather straightforward, and the instructions I found online were very detailed and clear:

    https://www.macrumors.com/how-to/cle...-10-14-mojave/
    https://www.un.org/en/sections/un-ch...r-i/index.html
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    Re: macOS Mojave: is it safe ?

    Any problems with printing and/or color management using Lightroom and Epson printers under Mojave?
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    Quote Originally Posted by scho View Post
    Any problems with printing and/or color management using Lightroom and Epson printers under Mojave?
    I did a CarbonCopy clone to an external drive and then installed Mojave on my computer. No problems and so far all working well, including printing and CM from Lightroom.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scho View Post
    I did a CarbonCopy clone to an external drive and then installed Mojave on my computer. No problems and so far all working well, including printing and CM from Lightroom.
    I lost a bunch of stuff ... but revert to my CCC to run them until they are viable with Mojave.

    And I run Mojave 85% of the time ... just waiting for a few updates to drivers.

    Otherwise very stable.

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    Re: macOS Mojave: is it safe ?

    I always have a bootable hard drive with the previous OS version on it available so as to be sure to be able to get everything working if a new upgrade breaks things. I don't bother with a clone ... all my important data is backed up anyway on external drives, why waste the time to make it?

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    Anyway, I installed macOS Mojave v10.14 yesterday. I've been exercising LR 6.14, Flare 2, Pages, Keynote, Numbers, Mail, etc. The only app that raised any issues is TextWrangler, so far ... and it was supposed to not work with High Sierra either. It did anyway.

    Photoshop CS5.1 wants me to reinstall the Java engine again ... I'll probably not, dump it and just use Affinity Photo instead at this point. I almost never touch Photoshop CS anymore, and Affinity Photo does as good if not better at what I used PS CS for now.

    Now to figure out what use all the "new features" in Mojave are.

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    Quick follow up after several days' use: No problems have surfaced.

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    So I gave up waiting for Nvidia to get an updated driver for Mojave.

    Dropped a AMD Vega 56 into the CheeseGrater and all of my problems solved ... and I now have true 5K in 10Bit on my Dell 2715.
    Had no idea how much better photo and video editing could be. Have to switch to 4K for regular work as the fonts are too small to read in 5K.
    But that takes about 5 seconds.

    All the irregularities in the system were due to the poor driver for the Nvidia card.
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    Re: macOS Mojave: is it safe ?

    For once I actually said yes to to the tour aorund the new features that kept poping up at the top of the scren every day (you know the offer that you postpone until the next day for several weeks until you finally cancel it) (Yes, I also eat quiche. ).

    The new feature set is rather impressive and most is very good for productivity.

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    Re: macOS Mojave: is it safe ?

    Quote Originally Posted by docmoore View Post
    So I gave up waiting for Nvidia to get an updated driver for Mojave.

    Dropped a AMD Vega 56 into the CheeseGrater and all of my problems solved ... and I now have true 5K in 10Bit on my Dell 2715.
    Had no idea how much better photo and video editing could be. Have to switch to 4K for regular work as the fonts are too small to read in 5K.
    But that takes about 5 seconds.

    All the irregularities in the system were due to the poor driver for the Nvidia card.
    I just read that CheeseGraters with Metal enabled graphics cards are able to run Mojave. May that have been a part of the problem you had?

    I'm in a dilemma here. My home Mac is a Pro 4,1 that runs High Sierra with Sierra Patcher, but there's probably no way to make it run Mojave, so I consider buying a higher specified 5,1 and install Mojave, but how do I know if the one I buy, second hand obviously, comes with Metal? Until now, "metal" to me was the stuff our magic welders at the workshop make impressive, big machines from

    No, I'm not buying an Astray. The beauty of the CheeseGrater is its solid build, beautiful design, ability to carry 4 large HDDs (and yes, I still play DVDs), changing stuff without the toolbox of a Formula 1 team while possessing fingers as thin as pencils, as long as flag poles and with the flexibility of a Gorilla Pod etc. etc. It's the Grand Piano of Macs.

    Edit:
    1. There's already a Mojave Patcher available that will work with my 4,1:
    macOS Mojave Patcher

    2. At least two graphics cards that are Metal compatible will run with the 4,1:

    - AMD Sapphire HD 9750 for Mac
    - EVGA GeForce GTX 680 Mac Editition

    Any of them will be a dramatic upgrade from the GeForce GT 120 that is currently installed, and obviously much cheaper than a 5,1 (that sells at Ashtray prices nowadays), so the upgrade path is pretty much set.
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    Here is the listing from Apple for compatible boards:

    https://appleinsider.com/articles/18...mited-for-imac

    My board was metal compatible, flashed with Apple ROM but without an advanced driver and CUDA support from Nvidia it was crippled. Could work but
    only with no advanced functions. It was a EVGA GTX 1080 Ti with 11 MB memory.

    I have GTX 1080 Ti, Titan Black and a GTX 680 ... all with Apple ROM, and all sitting on the shelf in a closet. However every time that Apple released
    an update to OS X you were in need of an updated driver from Nvidia. Usually they came in a couple of days. Now that Apple has dropped CUDA
    and deprecated Open GL Nvidia has to do a lot of work to bring a working driver for Mojave.

    Most any of the AMD boards ... through the Vega 64 have deep Apple support in the OS so they run as if you have a new Mac. The 64 has a few issues with
    fan speed ... which is why I went with the Vega 56 with 11Mb memory. It is much slower than the GTX 1080 Ti but runs so much better than a patched on driver
    that I am pleased with the compromise.

    I do think that the 5.1 form factor is ideal ... room for 6 drives, 4 PCIe slots, adequate memory slots. It was such a clean well designed tower ... could work today
    with TB3 USB 3.1 and updated memory support. I hope that the coming MacPro in 2019 will not be crippled and will allow one to configure it and sustain it down the road.
    Perhaps Apple's biggest liability is pushing svelte form over function ... and underestimating the effects of thermal throttling.

    I have done the PC thing ... for years and would prefer to stay with Mac OS for everything ... just wish they would take their hardware back to a stronger spec.
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    Re: macOS Mojave: is it safe ?

    Thanks. I finally found the same text on Apple's own page:

    https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208898

    I'm totally with you on the 5,1. I never needed a small computer for my work room, but I do need space inside my work computer. The fact that it's called a "desktop computer" doesn't mean that it has to stand on top of the desk. Can somebody please tell Apple?

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