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Airline electronics ban

bernardl

Active member
You can send all the goods correctly packed in pelicans cases by Ups or FeDex ... so you can travel light, and secure, and your pelicans will be waiting for you at the hotel desk ;)
Yes, you can do that.

There is some cost and timing constraints involved though.

Cheers,
Bernard
 

fotografz

Well-known member
I fear that you are correct ... but sensible articulate adults in the West need
to address these threats.

If you have a better venue please share it.

I apologize to all those who have no clue how close we are to losing those ideals
we hold so dear.

Mods ... feel free to scrub all of this ....

Bob
You are probably right Bob. The nefarious actions of a fanatical few DO have a widespread effect on us ... (including photographers here), as witnessed by the ever tightening rules of travel being discussed in this thread ... rules that potentially effect everyone.

IMHO, the ideological divide is so wide and deep I cannot fathom how "dialog" could address anything:argue:. Some of today's Pollyanna mindset is beyond the pale, wishful thinking rooted in their own cultural underpinnings which these specific terrorist do not share nor respect ... in fact are sworn to eradicate.

Heck, I wish I could have a spiritual conversation over coffee with Arjuna, ask Santa for world peace, and Jinni actually existed ... unfortunately, cultural fiction, while inspirational, isn't reality ... but it sure can wreak havoc when fanatics and the gullible of any ilk start to believe it is.

Ideally, I'd love to join hands around the world and sing Kumbaya ... but I'd probably lose that hand extended in peace, or more likely my head, in the process.:shocked:

Meanwhile, how the hell am I going to shuttle gear between my 2 places if this type of ban goes domestic?


- Marc
 

Guy Mancuso

Administrator, Instructor
Folks keep this to the banning gear itself of flying on airplanes. Drop all The Who, what and where stuff. We are a non political site.
 
V

Vivek

Guest
This could be a grand opportunity for gear rental companies!

No one carries their car while traveling.
 

cerett

Member
If forced to check cameras, I'm sure there is a way to pack them in hard, foam lined cases that will would provide some protection. However, this will not prevent airport personnel from opening these cases and fiddling with your equipment. Theft of cameras worth thousands of dollars is also a concern. Hopefully, if this comes to pass, there will be some type of alternative inspection (swabs for explosives and turning equipment on and off) by TSA that will satisfy concerns.
 

rollei8is

Member
There is still one more choice, If you are traveling overseas from US.

Cross over to Canada and take your international flight. It is inconvenient but possible,

and all your gear remains with you.

R-----
 

erlingmm

Active member
Just stop visiting the US. Trump xenophobia has already harmed tourism. There are lots of interesting places in the world.
 

JohnBrew

Active member
We photographers have plenty of options. I already have my tickets for Italy to shoot the vendemmia (grape harvest) in September. Depending on developments, I will take my normal equipment backpack sans camera body. Then in Tuscany I will either rent or buy another D810. The cost of another body is a drop in the bucket compared with what the entire trip will cost. There still remains the option of the RM3di w/film back, or just rent everything in Italy and take plenty of CF and SD cards.
 

tcdeveau

Well-known member
We'll just have to see how this plays out. As John said, there are plenty of options out there should camera bans go in effect, and make sure your gear is insured should you have to start checking MF gear. For anyone worried about fragility of gear in checked luggage I'd also travel with a 35mm backup.
-Todd
 

Quentin_Bargate

Well-known member
I'd be perfectly happy checking electronic gear, including cameras, for carriage in the hold if I had an assurance the gear would appear at the other end. The big issue for me is the risk of loss/theft in the handling process. That risk is now thrown in to sharper focus (as it were) by proposed new rules. The airlines need to figure out a far better security option, even if it involves an additional payment, for flights.
 

cerett

Member
There is still one more choice, If you are traveling overseas from US.

Cross over to Canada and take your international flight. It is inconvenient but possible,

and all your gear remains with you.

R-----
I would find it strange if Canadian security did not adopt the same policy as the USA. Otherwise, interesting idea.
 

cerett

Member
I'd be perfectly happy checking electronic gear, including cameras, for carriage in the hold if I had an assurance the gear would appear at the other end. The big issue for me is the risk of loss/theft in the handling process. That risk is now thrown in to sharper focus (as it were) by proposed new rules. The airlines need to figure out a far better security option, even if it involves an additional payment, for flights.
You will never get that kind of assurance from anyone at the airport, ever!
 
This is not happening on non-international flights correct? I got a shoot in Detroit in 4 days (coming from California). I'm still OK to take my camera on the plane right?
 

miska

Member
I already have my flight tickets to the US, for the solar eclipse. Won't bring my MFDB, but the Canon 500mm f/4 was on my list.
I hope the rules do not change ! I would have to figure out how to rent such a lens over there (I'm certainly not checking that in !).
Perhaps I can check bodies in, but not an expensive lens, no way !

All these rules make flying even more painful, and the US looks less and less an attractive place to spend vacations :-(
 

TimothyHyde

Subscriber Member
This is not happening on non-international flights correct? I got a shoot in Detroit in 4 days (coming from California). I'm still OK to take my camera on the plane right?
If they do it, and it now appears likely, it will probably be similar or identical to the ban that has existed for weeks from 8 African and Middle Eastern countries. It explicitly includes laptops, e-readers, tablets, and cameras. Plus other devices larger than a cell phone. ONLY FLIGHTS TO THE US are affected, not flights from the US to other countries, within the US, or within Europe.

As I said, "crap"!--and that only because this forum is family friendly.

tim
 

msadat

Member
as long as they have not announced it you are ok, but if happens when u are on the trip!!! it really sucks that once announced this will be permanent for all US bound flights, unless u use your own private jet (which i like very much, no airport hassle, legroom problems...) so what to do what to do

If they do it, and it now appears likely, it will probably be similar or identical to the ban that has existed for weeks from 8 African and Middle Eastern countries. It explicitly includes laptops, e-readers, tablets, and cameras. Plus other devices larger than a cell phone. ONLY FLIGHTS TO THE US are affected, not flights from the US to other countries, within the US, or within Europe.

As I said, "crap"!--and that only because this forum is family friendly.

tim
 

cerett

Member
I already have my flight tickets to the US, for the solar eclipse. Won't bring my MFDB, but the Canon 500mm f/4 was on my list.
I hope the rules do not change ! I would have to figure out how to rent such a lens over there (I'm certainly not checking that in !).
Perhaps I can check bodies in, but not an expensive lens, no way !

All these rules make flying even more painful, and the US looks less and less an attractive place to spend vacations :-(
Don't think this ban would extend to lenses? Certainly many are electronic, but no battery.
 

miska

Member
Don't think this ban would extend to lenses? Certainly many are electronic, but no battery.
Well, considering the rationality of all this, it wouldn't surprise me at all if everything that has electronics (lenses do) and are bigger than a cell phone would be banned.
And wasn't it that batteries had to be transported in the hand luggage, because of the risk of fire in the hold ? Go figure...

I can only imagine the pain of people traveling for business, who used to work with their laptops on the plane. Business class travel is going to take a major hit, if executives cannot work on their laptops during transcontinental flights...
 

hcubell

Active member
We photographers have plenty of options. I already have my tickets for Italy to shoot the vendemmia (grape harvest) in September. Depending on developments, I will take my normal equipment backpack sans camera body. Then in Tuscany I will either rent or buy another D810. The cost of another body is a drop in the bucket compared with what the entire trip will cost. There still remains the option of the RM3di w/film back, or just rent everything in Italy and take plenty of CF and SD cards.
I see two viable choices:

1. Insure the expensive stuff and ship it in advance to your hotel by FEDEX or DHL.

2. Fly out of the US with your stuff for carry on, then check it in your luggage on the way back and just be sure it is fully insured. If it's lost or stolen on the way back, it sucks, but it's not the disaster that it would be on the way to your destination.
 
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