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Nice shot Charles, I like the pose and am not missing the hand. Your model is classically proportioned and posed well. I do think you could be more daring with the lighting, say a 4' strip light at almost 90 degrees to draw attention to the form and to see what modeling the light can offer to her marvelous figure. I would also suggest over exposure a little especially on the face, the skin tone rendering seems kind of too perfect, or "expected". did you bracket? did you move the veggies around trying different arrangements? OK and one more thing, her eyes seem to be suggesting tiredness, they are closed enough to be ambiguous as to her engagement in the process. I do not intend to be mean or harsh here. Did you try one with her eyes closed? Sometimes I do that in a shoot just to keep the model involved even if it does not look great at first. my two cents. ~TEU
I feel the same but didn't want to say it. IMO, what's missing is some sort of relationship between the nude and the vegetables & fruit.The random fruit and vegetables seem placed there for no particular reason, are distracting, and mar an otherwise excellent image.
First of all, I appreciate your feedback. It's good food for thought, so please don't hold back.I feel the same but didn't want to say it. IMO, what's missing is some sort of relationship between the nude and the vegetables & fruit.
Charles, by any chance, would you have a photograph of the nude without any vegetables & fruit?
The vegetables & fruit themselves might make a very nice still life photograph.
P.S. Yes, I know that squash is technically a fruit.
Dear Pete,Charles - your first image is a great composition - referencing a painterly form. Makes me want to ask you why? Which is an indication of a successful image. Using so called 'classic' form in a different context is a powerful device. Interested to see where you are going with this.
The second image isn't worth a second glance by comparison.
I would be careful listening to people who specialise in making snaps of pretty landscapes when it comes to your exploration of something different.
Thanks for also posting the image of just the nude.Dear Pete,
I maintain that the first one I posted was better.
The apple is the forbidden fruit, not the squash.Thanks for also posting the image of just the nude.
I agree with you in that the pose of the nude in the first image is visually stronger than the pose in the second image.
Although squash is biologically categorized as a fruit, it is culinarily and culturally regarded as a vegetable. IMO, squash adds cognitive dissonance to the image. Also the different varieties of squash visually overwhelm the two apples.
I wonder how a basket of apples on the table and perhaps she holding an apple in her right hand would work.
Right, fruit from the tree of knowledge of good and evil and all that. I was approaching the issue from traditions in western art history. If you want to go with squash, I can't stop you. Alternate takes have their place.Depends where the Garden of Eden was located. If somewhere in the Near East couldn't be an apple picked from an apple tree.
Well if you are studying the painters - you will have noted that your lighting is off - a marked difference between the tonality of the face and mid to lower body...Dear Pete,
Thanks for the encouragement.
I am interested in other's opinions, and willing to be challenged. Sometimes it confirms my choices, sometimes it changes my perspective. In this case, of the set of images I shot, I maintain that the first one I posted was better. At the same time, next time I shoot, I will pay attention to the hands, and see if it improves the image.
And yes, it strikes me that the MF forum is very landscape heavy. I find MF particularly good for portraiture Because of the color transitions. I don't really care about Mpix.
On the painterly style bit: I am studying the renaissance painters like Caravaggio to understand more of their use of props and the symbolic meaning of them. So it will develop in this direction, with a twist and more intuitive than planned I suppose. i have been playing around with this for some time. I shoot with a Hasselblad, and in this case, I had an old V series Blad with a P1 back (no I am not rich, just had a great bargain) which has fat-pixels which give a more painterly look, which completes the look and feel.
Interesting ideas. Let me play around with PS to see what that would look like.Well if you are studying the painters - you will have noted that your lighting is off - a marked difference between the tonality of the face and mid to lower body...
my 'take' on the photograph would be to ....
replace the model's head with the larger vegetable or melon and put her head on the table...
as one possible example of 'flipping' the original notion of the 'good chattal' into a modern 'take'.
Like this ? My poor PS job aside, it is sort of ironicInteresting ideas. Let me play around with PS to see what that would look like.
On the lighting bit; she was lit with a 150cm parabolic with a reverse mounted head and feathered with a reflector opposite, so about as soft and even as you can get it.
i did dodge the upper part of her body / face a bit to draw attention to it.
The PS work is total absolute crapola but you know that...yes ....like that except the head should be behind some fruit/veggies...