I certainly hope that will not be the case. The “culture“ at the MF DPR Forum is/was anathema to the collegial, constructive and well informed atmosphere of the Getdpi MF Forum. The DPR MF forum was a totally Fuji GFX centric environment that was run like a cult that revolved around the Moderator and his "enforcers" and if you didn't drink the Kool-Aid, you were ostracized and banned.
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just because you throw a copyright notice and other rights reservation language on a website does not mean (a) the copyright is valid; or (b) it’s even enforceable.
As others have noted, copyrights, just like other IP, are jurisdictional and it depends on where the copyright is/are registered, where the potential copyright infringement activity might take place, and the laws of the respective jurisdictions.
assuming Amazon owns DPreview, we also don’t know if their ownership deal includes any potential DPreview IP, which may or may not even be owned by the corporation itself (assuming DPreview has IP assets)
for example, if the DPreview website was copied and put on a server located in an obscure country/location where DPreview/Amazon did not register a copyright for the material, they’re not going to be able to take that content down easily if at all and would not necessarily be violating any laws (especially if the server were located in an area that was not a Bern convention signatory).
also….copyrights require legal enforcement to stop others from infringing upon a copyright, which costs money. I have a hard time believing a corporation would shut down an arm it deemed not profitable, and then spend money without any monetary gain necessarily to protect any IP owned by the company it shut down because of lack of profitability, but, I am not business/economics expert
*not legal advice
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buildbot
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Also not a lawyer, not legal advice, but saving things for archival purposes is also treated differently than say, running a cloned dpreview with your own ads or something.
ehhh not necessarily in the eyes of US law. The copyright act by statute protects the copyright owner from unauthorized reproductions, and “reproduction” is not necessarily qualified under the statute (so any reproduction for any use could violate copyright)
*not legal advice
atanabe
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Not a lawyer and you have presented a compelling defense on how to circumvent copyright law. But common decency should always come first, ask permission and not forgiveness.
Paul Spinnler
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Never understood their forum layout. Struck me as awfully unpractical. The guys doing the youtube videos are nice though. I'd assume they go independent like this Kai guy.
Chris Niccolls and Jordan Drake are coming to PetaPixel!
https://www.youtube.com/@PetaPixel/featured
https://www.youtube.com/@PetaPixel/featured
Their reviews were rather objective, maybe too objective, with no incentive for manufacturers to pay premium for honest reviews, unlike some YouTubers who will be more than happy to give a sponsored opinion. Shame about all historical reviews/data. Poof! Gone in a click.
Hope the top contributors will be recognised as assets and will drive traffic with them > Petapixel welcomed Chris and Jordan, let's hope other less visible dpreview employees will be recognised too.
Hope the top contributors will be recognised as assets and will drive traffic with them > Petapixel welcomed Chris and Jordan, let's hope other less visible dpreview employees will be recognised too.
I think the closure of DP Review reflects the changing industry. It appeared when digital photography was in its infancy and the rate of technical development went off the scale. As this rate of progress slows down I hope we are all starting to think more about the photography and less about the equipment.
I’ve learnt a lot from DP Review and it will be very sad to see this vast resource disappear. I won’t miss the gear obsession, fanatical fanboys, measurebators and trolls. Any mis-step into the comments or forums has long been a toxic experience. Hopefully something more pleasant and constructive will grow in their place.
I’ve learnt a lot from DP Review and it will be very sad to see this vast resource disappear. I won’t miss the gear obsession, fanatical fanboys, measurebators and trolls. Any mis-step into the comments or forums has long been a toxic experience. Hopefully something more pleasant and constructive will grow in their place.
But many of us here have dual membership,are we all "worthless"?
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Agreed.
to be clear, I’m not advocating for circumventing nor am I trying to provide a blueprint for circumvention - just trying to point out the limitations of the copyright notice.
there are a lot of misconceptions regarding IP lawon the internet, and, being in the field, I try to educate when possible.
the same goes for the US, however, copyright law provides advantages for the copyright holder if it is registered with the US copyright office, such as increased damages for infringement.
the idea with registration is that, by registering, you’re providing better notice that you own the copyright. Without registration, and only with the notice, people may not be aware you own the copyright, even if there’s a copyright notice in the material
rdeloe
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I'm going to miss the DPReview medium format forum a lot.
I had many wide-ranging and interesting conversations about photography rather than just gear with members over the last few years. We don't do that much here on GetDPI. Olaf tried a few times in other sub-forums, but it doesn't seem to have worked.
I'm also going to miss the enormous, deep technical knowledge of some of the members. Many of those conversations were over my head, but the parts I could follow added enormously to my understanding of how digital sensors work.
Ultimately it's a business decision for the owners, but this is a case where a business decision looks like vandalism. As is usually the case, the people who made the decision are incapable of seeing and understanding what they're destroying.
I had many wide-ranging and interesting conversations about photography rather than just gear with members over the last few years. We don't do that much here on GetDPI. Olaf tried a few times in other sub-forums, but it doesn't seem to have worked.
I'm also going to miss the enormous, deep technical knowledge of some of the members. Many of those conversations were over my head, but the parts I could follow added enormously to my understanding of how digital sensors work.
Ultimately it's a business decision for the owners, but this is a case where a business decision looks like vandalism. As is usually the case, the people who made the decision are incapable of seeing and understanding what they're destroying.
Paul Spinnler
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But maybe not all is lost - hope someone proposes to Management a takeover of the forum
Paul Spinnler
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To Save its Content, Archive Team is Attempting to Back Up All of DPReview
An attempt to preserve DPReview's huge cache of content.
petapixel.com
Knorp
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Paul Spinnler
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Well Nvidia just announced AI in the cloud so we should be able to train our own LLMs based off of forum know how
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