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Maybe but you were trying to keep costs down I thought and RF lenses are not inexpensive. Definitely are excellent. It looks like they fixed many of the quirks though I still hate the fully articulating screen... so that’s a downer for me personally. As far as lenses I’d choose if I bought into the system - 28-70/2 (hands down the lens that wowed me the first time I tried the camera), the 50/1.2, the 85/1.2 DS, and wait to see what they’re doing for longer primes in the 100-150mm range. The 70-200 would be a possibility but I’d skip the 100-500 on account of the small aperture on the long end.Since some time I am already looking into the Canon R system as it seems to build up what is essential for my wishes and needs when it comes to FF.
I have high hopes for the EOS R5 - on some rumor websites it is said it should come with an around 40MP sensor, which would be needed anyway for 8K video and would be just the perfect resolution I am looking for.
Pairing that with the 100-500 and the 15-35 as well as the 70-200 and on top of that add the 1.2/85 sometimes later would be all I wanted and needed for the rest of my life - well I guess at least
And this camera would help me avoid Sony or Nikon as well - a big plus as continues to turn out for me!
If those attributes determine a winner there's a lot of winners out in the mirrorless market already today. Yes, it will be a good camera and Canon is a brand not to be overlooked, but for me there's really nothing there that looks exciting or special.This is a winner, and the camera Canon users have been waiting for. 8K is a technicality. If it sports 40MP, IBIS, fully articulated screen, good ergonomics, great quality 4K, good slo-mo and two card slots, it will be hard to beat, particularly considering the quality of Canon R-mount lenses.
For sure those attributes (at least most of them) are describing a winner - BUT no other brand so far really understood these - see what FF mirrorless cameras (and lenses) are available today or in near future ... Sony??? Nikon????????? Panasonic????????????????If those attributes determine a winner there's a lot of winners out in the mirrorless market already today. Yes, it will be a good camera and Canon is a brand not to be overlooked, but for me there's really nothing there that looks exciting or special.
I think Sony and Panasonic have lens offerings available that are every bit as good or comparable to what Canon is offering. The video is great on paper assuming there isn’t “a catch” to the features that they’re advertising. I think there’s a benefit to shooting at 8K and delivering in 4K or 1080P... or just cropping in the video and getting “multicam” ability from a single frame.For sure those attributes (at least most of them) are describing a winner - BUT no other brand so far really understood these - see what FF mirrorless cameras (and lenses) are available today or in near future ... Sony??? Nikon????????? Panasonic????????????????
Maybe your milage may vary but a fast and accurately focusing camera with 40-45MP and great DR and high frame rate and great buffer and great ergonomics plus perfect video (up to 8k) I cannot see from any of the other brands - sorry for Sony, sorry for Nikon (the sleeper of the pack) and sorry for Panasonic (better back to the drawing boards to develop finally a decent AF)
Canon is the clear winner if the EOS R5 materialises as what is rumored.
Nikon attributes are pretty low number and the lens lineup is nothing to write home about as is their AF implementation.Maybe you're referring to 8K video (which is not important for me) but all the other attributes can be found in Nikon and Sony and for slower moving/static objects in Panasonic. No problem if people like this Canon better, that's a personal choice, but to sell it as the best thing since sliced bread and better than the other brands is an exaggeration in my mind.
I know waiting for you is no problem, but we still need to see the Canon come and perform, while the others are already out there.
Sony maybe is, but Panasonic definitely not - at least for people like me.I think Sony and Panasonic have lens offerings available that are every bit as good or comparable to what Canon is offering. The video is great on paper assuming there isn’t “a catch” to the features that they’re advertising. I think there’s a benefit to shooting at 8K and delivering in 4K or 1080P... or just cropping in the video and getting “multicam” ability from a single frame.
If autofocus is the concern... no one is better than Sony right now. If video quality is the concern I believe Panasonic offers the best quality... Nothing wrong with Canon at all and I think the R5 will right most of the wrongs of the R. I don’t know that anyone can say that anyone is a clear winner. That’s just ludicrous as everyone has different desires. In reality... all of the cameras are great.
Do you not think that the L-Mount lenses are every bit as good optically if not better than the Canon RF lenses? That’s what I was specifically speaking about.Sony maybe is, but Panasonic definitely not - at least for people like me.
In the moment Sony has still the head on AF but that will not last too long anymore and Canon and even Nikon will be as good. Different with Panasonic and their b...s... DFD system - as I mentioned multiple times they need to go back to the drawing boards again for this.
Canon seems to have listened and sure we need to wait how their new sensor(s) perform but form the rest I am seeing they are pretty close and obviously have gone rid of that ignorance that other companies are plagued.
Just my 5c, and whatever one prefers is personal of course but if one is really objective then they should come pretty close to my opinion.
8k isn’t as hard as it once was. A lot comes down to the wrapper it’s packaged in and whether Canon (or whomever) works directly with NLE makers to efficiently process the data. People with Mac Pro’s, newer Radeon Navi GPU’s, or Apple T2 chips inside are already ahead of the game as they can all decode h.264 or h.265 more easily. They same can be said for Windows users that use similar platforms.It's important to understand the implications of 8K with regards to processing power. Compared to 4K, 8K contains four times as much data. The processing capacity needed to get all those bits through the system will also enable the camera to process anything else faster, and with fast cards, be able to handle complicated combinations of advanced AF algorithms, metering, hi-res viewfinders etc. in an optimal way. There are rumours about 4K 120 fps. which makes sense. That's more or less the same amount of data as 8K 30 fps.
I would be surprised if Nikon isn't working on a similarly advanced camera, probably more stills oriented, but also with much more advanced AF and with slow motion 4K.
I doubt that 8K has been the main focus for this camera other than for marketing purposes. The 8K ability comes as an added advantage when installing a 40MP sensor and the processing power needed to make a mirrorless camera as responsive as a high-end DSLR. Will it be as good as a DSLR? Much depends on the viewfinder. That's where images are created.