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Fun with the Hasselblad 907x
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Godfrey
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Suitable hunting around the CAMVATE products and I found a left grip with Rosette male mount that looks like it will work for me as well as a female Rosette mount that can bolt to my RRS B2-FABN-Micro Arca Swiss clamp with minimal fussing about. The two parts together were reasonably priced, so I've ordered and we'll see what they're like when they arrive.
It's really important to me that the grip have an adjustable angle ... my biggest grip with the standard Control Grip is that it's straight up and down: fine for eye level work, a pain for low angle work—the way I use the camera most. I'd love to be able to rotate it forward about 45 degrees for a more comfortable and secure grip.
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It's really important to me that the grip have an adjustable angle ... my biggest grip with the standard Control Grip is that it's straight up and down: fine for eye level work, a pain for low angle work—the way I use the camera most. I'd love to be able to rotate it forward about 45 degrees for a more comfortable and secure grip.
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Hi Godfrey,
may be my first attempt would fill your needs ?
Kind regards. Wolfgang
may be my first attempt would fill your needs ?
Kind regards. Wolfgang
Godfrey
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Yes, that's very close ... It looks just about like what I'm envisaging with the bits I've ordered, except that the grip/Rosette/clamp affixes to the DAL-1 L-bracket (and I can remove the grip at the QR clamp and use the L-bracket for portrait orientation shots on a tripod too).
All good stuff!
G
All good stuff!
G
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Hi Godfrey,
Great idea, I think that's what you where thinking of. The only thing that puzzles me is the fact that the grip is about 4cm more away from the camera and so the combo feels remarkable heavier.
Kind regards
Wolfgang
Great idea, I think that's what you where thinking of. The only thing that puzzles me is the fact that the grip is about 4cm more away from the camera and so the combo feels remarkable heavier.
Kind regards
Wolfgang
Godfrey
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Thanks for that! Shows some of the trade offs nicely.
The CAMVATE female Rosette I found is thinner than the one you show in these photos and will mount to the RRS clamp at an offset, which can be compensated for by positioning the clamp higher on the L-bracket:
In the event that it spaces the grip and such too far from the 907x camera body, I can use it to determine the proper angle and than make a very thin bracket to bolt the wooden grip with minimum offset to the clamp. That eschews the adjustability, but basically once I know precisely the range of angles that willl work for what I want, I'll likely only rarely need the adjustability.
The LH grip I ordered is the simpler one ... it's just the male Rosette on a simple pedestal that is bolted to the grip without the plate with multiple mount points as in your photo. That means it should be lighter and easier to make a simplified replacement for in the event that I want to reduce the size and weight of the assembly.
It seemed evident to me that the closer and tighter to the body I can place the grip, beyond having enough space for my fingers, the better it will be. Getting there is the tricky part of the whole endeavor...
G
The CAMVATE female Rosette I found is thinner than the one you show in these photos and will mount to the RRS clamp at an offset, which can be compensated for by positioning the clamp higher on the L-bracket:
In the event that it spaces the grip and such too far from the 907x camera body, I can use it to determine the proper angle and than make a very thin bracket to bolt the wooden grip with minimum offset to the clamp. That eschews the adjustability, but basically once I know precisely the range of angles that willl work for what I want, I'll likely only rarely need the adjustability.
The LH grip I ordered is the simpler one ... it's just the male Rosette on a simple pedestal that is bolted to the grip without the plate with multiple mount points as in your photo. That means it should be lighter and easier to make a simplified replacement for in the event that I want to reduce the size and weight of the assembly.
It seemed evident to me that the closer and tighter to the body I can place the grip, beyond having enough space for my fingers, the better it will be. Getting there is the tricky part of the whole endeavor...
G
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phOtOny teXas
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Ok so some new toy arrived in the mail. Chinese-made M42 to X1D adaptor and a Zeiss Biotar 58mm f2. Meant to get the adaptor to pair with some Pentax Super Takumar glass but bought the Biotar on impulse. Took a quick shot of my kid at home. Has easily-correctable vignetting at close up but in most cases I tend to leave it there. Also, the adaptor is really well made. Not too bad for US80
Godfrey
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You're inspiring me ... I have to dig out the adapters so I can fit my uncoated 1939 Zeiss 40mm f/2 (Berning Robot mount to LTM to M-Bayonet to X) and see what the lens does on the larger format. It's either a Sonnar or a Biotar.Ok so some new toy arrived in the mail. Chinese-made M42 to X1D adaptor and a Zeiss Biotar 58mm f2. Meant to get the adaptor to pair with some Pentax Super Takumar glass but bought the Biotar on impulse. Took a quick shot of my kid at home. Has easily-correctable vignetting at close up but in most cases I tend to leave it there. Also, the adaptor is really well made. Not too bad for US80
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spb
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Well we have our first real snow here in my area this winter today. Getting thicker by the minute. Quadropod and MiniConnect from Novoflex works well with this camera. I don't usually use the Grip as well when on tripod, this was just a test to see what it is like. I think I prefer bare camera when on tripod. Walking around definitely with Grip and strap. All XCD 30mm. Next images coming with XCD 90mm.
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Godfrey
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I just found about 20 Hasselblad 907x images that were lingering in my catalog for upload that I made last year. 13 or so of them were in the short video presentation I posted here some time back ... Well, that's too much 'old' work to post as a bunch, and I'd rather move on to newer stuff. But if you want to browse through the stills, they're on flickr.com at this album:
In other news, my left side grip project: the female CAMVATE Rosette mount I ordered arrived yesterday. It's encouragingly compact and fits the RRS micro-clamp with minimal standoff, so I look forward to the CAMVATE grip and male Rosette to arrive ... should be this coming week. Fun fun fun!
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In other news, my left side grip project: the female CAMVATE Rosette mount I ordered arrived yesterday. It's encouragingly compact and fits the RRS micro-clamp with minimal standoff, so I look forward to the CAMVATE grip and male Rosette to arrive ... should be this coming week.
Fun fun fun! G
Godfrey
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Some progress on my "left side grip" project for the 907x: All the bits are in. I had to source a different pair of bolts to fix the female side Rosette to the RRS mini-clamp (the original button-headed ones had heads too wide for the mini-clamp's threaded bosses' spacing); I went with a pair of 1/4x20 - 1/2" cap screws. They work well.
The CAMVATE grip I ordered arrived and it also works well, with the issue that was mentioned: The grip is spaced a bit far from the body. Here are a few photos:
I've walked about with this and done some shooting with both the 21 and 45P, and it works, it's just a bit farther from the body than I'd prefer.
Poking around on another site specializing in grips of this sort, I found a SmallGrip with Rosette that is styled a little differently and basically bolts the Rosette in closer to the grip palm. I've ordered one of those; it should provide this spacing once bolted up. Here's a mockup of how it will look with the SmallGrip based on the dimensions provided for that:
That may well be just right; it's the same grip that Wolfgang showed above.
However, examining the CAMVATE grip a little further, I have discovered that I can remove the Rosette bracket from the wooden handle and the Rosette from the bracket. If I then drill and helicoil four threaded fittings into the grip handle itself, and provide a seat for the Rosette center M6x1 threaded bolt on the other side, I can likely achieve an even tighter fit to the body, like this mockup:
That might actually be too close, without enough finger room, but it's possible to do it. Getting the fit and the bits just right is fun, and all this equipment is very nice quality at a very reasonable price. Just with the present setup as pictured in the first four images above, the camera is much easier to hold steady and secure at waist level.
Now to go make some photographs.
G
The CAMVATE grip I ordered arrived and it also works well, with the issue that was mentioned: The grip is spaced a bit far from the body. Here are a few photos:
I've walked about with this and done some shooting with both the 21 and 45P, and it works, it's just a bit farther from the body than I'd prefer.
Poking around on another site specializing in grips of this sort, I found a SmallGrip with Rosette that is styled a little differently and basically bolts the Rosette in closer to the grip palm. I've ordered one of those; it should provide this spacing once bolted up. Here's a mockup of how it will look with the SmallGrip based on the dimensions provided for that:
That may well be just right; it's the same grip that Wolfgang showed above.
However, examining the CAMVATE grip a little further, I have discovered that I can remove the Rosette bracket from the wooden handle and the Rosette from the bracket. If I then drill and helicoil four threaded fittings into the grip handle itself, and provide a seat for the Rosette center M6x1 threaded bolt on the other side, I can likely achieve an even tighter fit to the body, like this mockup:
That might actually be too close, without enough finger room, but it's possible to do it. Getting the fit and the bits just right is fun, and all this equipment is very nice quality at a very reasonable price. Just with the present setup as pictured in the first four images above, the camera is much easier to hold steady and secure at waist level.
Now to go make some photographs.
G
Just wanted to come back with some more 907x experience. I enjoy this camera more than I believed I would. Shooting with the display like a tradional WLF is really really fun. I now also have a 65mm lens, which also fits great (size wise). The 80 or zoom is a little too big and heavy for the 907x, I would rather use it on the x1dII.
I am quite happy with the Hassy system. The files come out very good without much if any postprocessing, the color looks great in most types of light, the exp metering works well and I get along very good with the simple user interface. Even moving the focus point o the touch screen works better than I expected.
Summary. great camera!!!
I am quite happy with the Hassy system. The files come out very good without much if any postprocessing, the color looks great in most types of light, the exp metering works well and I get along very good with the simple user interface. Even moving the focus point o the touch screen works better than I expected.
Summary. great camera!!!
Godfrey
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... I'm happy to hear you're enjoying the 907x so much!
Another thing I used for the first time the other day was the on-LCD point selector for white balance. The white balance in my office is generally really difficult, with a mix of sunlight coming through argon-filled, IR reflective double pane windows, and a mix of warm LED and compact fluorescent lighting fixtures. When I was doing my ISO testing, I had the tri-tone test chart up. After shooting one set at the Tungsten setting that all looks blue and dim, I figured I'd try the WB point selector on the gray part of the chart. The results on the LCD were *perfect*, and LRClassic's default processing of the raw files was *perfect* with respect to color balance as well ... no adjustment needed at all.
It really is a delightful little box!
I decided to go with the XCD 90mm f/3.2 lens as my third native lens (21, 45P, and 90 seems a good setup; I have plenty of adapted macro stuff, so I'll wait on that purchase) as it seems to me my eye is liking longer-than-normal focal lengths at present. One of our other GetDPI forum participants had one available, I'm buying it from him. Can't wait for it to arrive now...
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Another thing I used for the first time the other day was the on-LCD point selector for white balance. The white balance in my office is generally really difficult, with a mix of sunlight coming through argon-filled, IR reflective double pane windows, and a mix of warm LED and compact fluorescent lighting fixtures. When I was doing my ISO testing, I had the tri-tone test chart up. After shooting one set at the Tungsten setting that all looks blue and dim, I figured I'd try the WB point selector on the gray part of the chart. The results on the LCD were *perfect*, and LRClassic's default processing of the raw files was *perfect* with respect to color balance as well ... no adjustment needed at all.
It really is a delightful little box!
I decided to go with the XCD 90mm f/3.2 lens as my third native lens (21, 45P, and 90 seems a good setup; I have plenty of adapted macro stuff, so I'll wait on that purchase) as it seems to me my eye is liking longer-than-normal focal lengths at present. One of our other GetDPI forum participants had one available, I'm buying it from him. Can't wait for it to arrive now...
G
spb
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Almost dialek type,,,,,