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Got my GFX100s today.

spb

Well-known member
not sure if BH (Adorama,...) still sells grey market items, they used to be clearly labeled as such. they are (were) usually (questionable?) imports from other markets, so you would get a camera set up with a non English menu and such, warranty is obviously different as well. maybe you got something like that? either way it should be labeled as such.
since they accept returns without question, I don't have a problem buying at any of these places.
it does seem more and more that these new cameras are rushed out the door because expectation is so completely out of control these days.
the second the new "100 whatever" is ANNOUNCED people treat it like old news and start threads about wether they should wait to buy the next model. its crazy. I really do feel sorry for retailers who in many ways are behind at all times in this race, they depend on the manufacturers who depend on the suppliers. and all to bring out a product that feels like old new the second it ships. no wonder corners are cut and things happen.
Fairly put
 

algrove

Well-known member
50R is a lovely camera to use, I really like the results from it. Now if the 100R (I can hope) comes it would be good to be a little smaller like the 100S, have Ibis, an articulating LCD screen and have about the same weight.....and use the same batteries as the 100S. I would pre-order it today.
Me too!!!
 

algrove

Well-known member
Lou, it sounds like you received a camera that somebody had used. Having had something similar happen to me, I always check for obvious signs of use (menus not set to default settings, switches and dials not set to default settings, wear or finger oils on buttons and grip...). And I've called B&H Customer Service at least once to insist on getting a fresh, new replacement for something I was returning. Even Amazon has a bad habit of putting returned goods back into inventory.

A good copy of the GFX 100S is a truly remarkable camera. There may be other smaller retailers that have inventory before June. Hang in there.

Joe
Yes strange Joe, but I asked and the customer service guy at B&H told me I was the first person to receive this camera and no gray market cameras since it is back ordered the world over. But why was the body cap on backwards? etc, etc, etc?
 

vjbelle

Well-known member
Victor,
Never realized you had issues also. Were these issues with he 100S or GFX100?
GFX100... My 100s has been with me since March 15. I was probably one of the first ones out the door from B&H. Ever so often I have a hiccup where something minor won't work. A quick turn off and on solves it every time. Does not happen often and something I'm sure can be corrected with a future firmware update. No different than things I've experienced with other cameras.

Victor B.
 

Paul2660

Well-known member
If box seal is broken, then camera should sold as used. I have wondered for a long rime how B &H handles returns internally. They have a very generous return policy. Personally I have stopped purchasing from B&H for big ticket items due the terrible method they use for packing items for shipping. They are totally depending on the companies boxes for security. They just dump the cameras or lenses in a box with little to no padding and ship it. I have complained several times with pictures to no effect.

Paul
 

algrove

Well-known member
If box seal is broken, then camera should sold as used. I have wondered for a long rime how B &H handles returns internally. They have a very generous return policy. Personally I have stopped purchasing from B&H for big ticket items due the terrible method they use for packing items for shipping. They are totally depending on the companies boxes for security. They just dump the cameras or lenses in a box with little to no padding and ship it. I have complained several times with pictures to no effect.

Paul
There was no box seal on the box in my case. Just pull back the tab and open top.
 

ron787

Member
Hello Algrove,
I own all 4 GFX cameras (50s, 50r, GFX100 and GFX100s) and not a single one of their boxes had been sealed. Furthermore, I own 10 GF lenses, and none of their boxes had been sealed. It seems pretty clear, to me, that Fuji does not seal their boxes.
 

algrove

Well-known member
Hello Algrove,
I own all 4 GFX cameras (50s, 50r, GFX100 and GFX100s) and not a single one of their boxes had been sealed. Furthermore, I own 10 GF lenses, and none of their boxes had been sealed. It seems pretty clear, to me, that Fuji does not seal their boxes.
Agree.
 

tcdeveau

Well-known member
Bummer Lou. At least you shouldn’t have too much issue returning it.

I’ve never had issues items received from BH until the last year, had two Nikon lenses in a row I had to return...with one of them the lens cap was smashed on at an odd angle and was defective. Second was defective as well. Hard to say if it was previously used or a defective batch since Nikon also doesn’t seal their Z-system boxes.
 

algrove

Well-known member
Bummer Lou. At least you shouldn’t have too much issue returning it.

I’ve never had issues items received from BH until the last year, had two Nikon lenses in a row I had to return...with one of them the lens cap was smashed on at an odd angle and was defective. Second was defective as well. Hard to say if it was previously used or a defective batch since Nikon also doesn’t seal their Z-system boxes.
Your comment got me remembering a 45-100 B&H sent me during the sale and the lens cap was jammed onto the front so tight it would not come off. returned it and never ordered another one. Pretty soon I will just forget Fuji MF and stick with my NOT weather proof Alpa/Phase IOQ4150. Maybe I get a Sony A1 to use in bad weather and that's it since I sure like some small Zony lenses on my A7R4 and the APO Voigtlander 50 I have even though MFocus.
 

SrMphoto

Active member
Your comment got me remembering a 45-100 B&H sent me during the sale and the lens cap was jammed onto the front so tight it would not come off. returned it and never ordered another one. Pretty soon I will just forget Fuji MF and stick with my NOT weather proof Alpa/Phase IOQ4150. Maybe I get a Sony A1 to use in bad weather and that's it since I sure like some small Zony lenses on my A7R4 and the APO Voigtlander 50 I have even though MFocus.
I really like my Sony A1, but it seems that Sony has quite a couple of issues themselves (IBIS, EVF). The companies are rushing too much to launch new cameras. Early adopters must make sure that they can easily return or replace new cameras.
 

spb

Well-known member
Hello Algrove,
I own all 4 GFX cameras (50s, 50r, GFX100 and GFX100s) and not a single one of their boxes had been sealed. Furthermore, I own 10 GF lenses, and none of their boxes had been sealed. It seems pretty clear, to me, that Fuji does not seal their boxes.
I am pretty sure every single GFX/GF box I have received was sealed here in Switzerland. I do recall one or two X lenses not in a sealed box.
 

vjbelle

Well-known member
Your comment got me remembering a 45-100 B&H sent me during the sale and the lens cap was jammed onto the front so tight it would not come off. returned it and never ordered another one. Pretty soon I will just forget Fuji MF and stick with my NOT weather proof Alpa/Phase IOQ4150. Maybe I get a Sony A1 to use in bad weather and that's it since I sure like some small Zony lenses on my A7R4 and the APO Voigtlander 50 I have even though MFocus.
I think you should give the Fuji another chance. It's easily worth it to me. I use my Fuji on my Cambo a lot and the Phase sits in a camera bag. I give up almost nothing Fuji vs. Phase. Plus I get to use my three Fuji lenses (50,80,110) that allow me take advantage of the camera stacking feature which works flawlessly. Files are fantastic with tons of shadow recovery especially when processed with C1. Did I mention the wonderful colors of the Fuji files?

Three or four weeks won't matter.

Victor B.
 

algrove

Well-known member
I am pretty sure every single GFX/GF box I have received was sealed here in Switzerland. I do recall one or two X lenses not in a sealed box.
Not sealed in the US as I looked at each lens box I have and there was never a seal on them. Sony are not sealed, but Leica M are sealed.
 
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algrove

Well-known member
Looked through entire on line 100S catalog and could not find the flash sync speed. Perhaps missed it. Also did a paper manual come in your US 100S boxes?
 
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Chapel

Member
Hi, I think I read somewhere in the downloaded manual the flash sync is 125. There was no paper manual. I bought my 100s from a local small dealer and was there when they opened the shipping box from Fuji and the camera box wasn't sealed.
Greg
 

Paul2660

Well-known member
All the reports of no tape made me go back to my GFX100 box and look. It had one round tape seal on it. My latest lens boxes do not as others have reported. So I am wrong in my assumption on the 100s. I guess there is no way to tell if the camera was a reprocessed return after all besides shot count?
Hope it all works out for you Lou.

Paul C
 

algrove

Well-known member
All the reports of no tape made me go back to my GFX100 box and look. It had one round tape seal on it. My latest lens boxes do not as others have reported. So I am wrong in my assumption on the 100s. I guess there is no way to tell if the camera was a reprocessed return after all besides shot count?
Hope it all works out for you Lou.

Paul C
Thanks Paul.
It should be back at B&H this week.
 

spb

Well-known member
Looked through entire on line 100S catalog and could not find the flash sync speed. Perhaps missed it. Also did a paper manual come in your US 100S boxes?
Clearly marked as 125x even on the top screen when showing the shutter speeds, but one is not restricted to that of course. Nissin make excellent triggers and flash guns - like Godox - both allowing flash at much higher speeds when required.
 

PSS

Member
Clearly marked as 125x even on the top screen when showing the shutter speeds, but one is not restricted to that of course. Nissin make excellent triggers and flash guns - like Godox - both allowing flash at much higher speeds when required.
125 is the highest speed the shutter can sync flash, everything else is HSS which is great but comes with certain limitations.
 
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