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has anyone tried the Hasselblad CFV II 50c with tech camera?

Godfrey

Well-known member
I leave the Peak Design standard plate on my 907x all the time now too. For similar reason ... it helps the body stand on its own. It also means I can plop the camera onto any of my tripods very quickly without having to spend time to fish out a plate and allen key wrench every time. I take it off when I fit the L-bracket.

I'll see if it fits easily with the control grip too... that should be here on Wednesday. :)
 

FloatingLens

Well-known member
You mean on the 907X? Its the HB plate, kept there to prevent scratching the bottom...:), kinda silly I guess. And allowing the body to sit on its own.

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Using the Hasselblad quick plate system has a certain charm to it, too.

I was wondering for some time if the official plate for the X-system and X1D is equally intended for the 907X. It seems this could work well. Cheers!
 

Godfrey

Well-known member
The problem is that the 907x body's mounting point is wide but very narrow fore-aft. The plate for the X1D and II bodies is much longer in this dimension ... If that plate is not solid metal and has any compressible material on it, it could cause a problem in positioning of the camera as the camera will not be flat to the plate—never mind problems with the back being impinged upon.

The PD plate I'm using has a very thin bit of rubber in a couple of scalloped insets which compresses complete to the metal parts in contact with the camera base, as does a Benro plate I've also used. The DAL L-bracket has no rubber at all. Effectively, all three of these contact the camera base, do not touch the back at all (1.5mm clearance) and hold the camera rigidly without chance of rotation or 'tipping' assuming that I've torqued the screw to about 4Nm.

G
 

Caumont

Member
Hi everyone,

Did someone manage to use this back on a tech camera with flash sync?

I'm pretty sure it's impossible because it only uses ES in this kind of camera setup, but maybe I'm wrong?

Best,
Vincent
 

darr

Well-known member
Hi everyone,

Did someone manage to use this back on a tech camera with flash sync?

I'm pretty sure it's impossible because it only uses ES in this kind of camera setup, but maybe I'm wrong?

Best,
Vincent
I use the CFV II 50c in the studio with a Linhof or a Sinar and Profoto Air.
Simple connection with a 2.5mm to male flash PC sync cable.
Here is a quick test shot:

 

f8orbust

Active member
Never used the CFV II 50c, but took a quick look at the online manual - when you use the DB on a tech cam you have to use the flash sync cable on the 'flash sync input' socket so that the DB knows when the mechanical shutter has fired - but the DB also has a 'flash sync output' socket, so it looks like this is how you would connect your flash setup to be triggered when the DB receives a signal from the mechanical shutter.
 

jotloob

Subscriber Member
I use the 907x CFV II 50c in native mode with XCD45p and xcd30 , but also on HB 500 series cameras and SWC905 .
But mainly on ALPA TC and ALPA12 plus , as well as with ARCA SWISS F-LINE METRIC 6x9 . Here for macro and product shots .
For example with the RODENSTOCK APO MACRO SIRONAR 120 mm in Prontor Professional shutter . That makes shooting much easier .
The CFV II 50c is therefore an absolute allround back , for me , and the 50MP is fully adequate for what I shoot .
 

TechTalk

Well-known member
If the lens has a leaf shutter with a flash sync connection, like a copal shutter for instance, then you use the back in flash sync mode — Camera Body Menu » "Any (Flash Sync)". There are flash sync input and output cables included with the CFV II 50C as with previous Hasselblad digital backs. These connect to the flash sync input and output ports located on the underside of the back near the LCD panel buttons.

You can download the manual from the download section of Hasselblad's website... https://www.hasselblad.com/my-hasselblad/downloads/CFV II 50C

CFV II 50C Connectivity.png
 

TechTalk

Well-known member
I use the 907x CFV II 50c in native mode with XCD45p and xcd30 , but also on HB 500 series cameras and SWC905 .
But mainly on ALPA TC and ALPA12 plus , as well as with ARCA SWISS F-LINE METRIC 6x9 . Here for macro and product shots .
For example with the RODENSTOCK APO MACRO SIRONAR 120 mm in Prontor Professional shutter . That makes shooting much easier .
The CFV II 50c is therefore an absolute allround back , for me , and the 50MP is fully adequate for what I shoot .
I'm aware of the Prontor Professional shutters, but have never used one. I'd be interested in your insights as a user.
 

jotloob

Subscriber Member
The Prontor Professional is used in the same way as a Copal shutter , except that this shutter is self cocking .
All my lenses for the ARA SWISS have a Prontor Professional shutter , simply because of convenience reasons . Thats all .
 

KC_2020

Active member
This seems like a good place to ask a related question.

The Hasselblad flash sync cables that came with my 907X CFV II have 3 conductors on the mini-plug end, 2.5mm I believe. With an audio cable this is referred to as tip, ring and sleeve. So where can I purchase a backup set of these ? Or do conventional sync cables with work ?

I've searched all the typical vendors sites and haven't found an identical cable.
 

jotloob

Subscriber Member
This seems like a good place to ask a related question.

The Hasselblad flash sync cables that came with my 907X CFV II have 3 conductors on the mini-plug end, 2.5mm I believe. With an audio cable this is referred to as tip, ring and sleeve. So where can I purchase a backup set of these ? Or do conventional sync cables with work ?

I've searched all the typical vendors sites and haven't found an identical cable.
You could contact HASSELBLAD directly . They were very helpful , when I had to get a replacement for the sync cable , which I lost .
 

mristuccia

Well-known member
As a side note, and sorry for being OT here, I noticed that they seem to have dropped the alert note on possible image quality problems for the SWC family.
This is what I have for my CFV I 50c:

Hasselblad-CFV-50c-User-Manual.jpg


If the lens has a leaf shutter with a flash sync connection, like a copal shutter for instance, then you use the back in flash sync mode — Camera Body Menu » "Any (Flash Sync)". There are flash sync input and output cables included with the CFV II 50C as with previous Hasselblad digital backs. These connect to the flash sync input and output ports located on the underside of the back near the LCD panel buttons.

You can download the manual from the download section of Hasselblad's website... https://www.hasselblad.com/my-hasselblad/downloads/CFV II 50C

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jotloob

Subscriber Member
The image quality issues mentioned for the SWC family cameras were described by HB as „small issues„ in the corners . Whatever that means .
I have never experienced any issues , not with CFV39 , CFV50 and CFV II 50 c .
 

jng

Well-known member
As a side note, and sorry for being OT here, I noticed that they seem to have dropped the alert note on possible image quality problems for the SWC family.
This is what I have for my CFV I 50c:

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The image quality issues mentioned for the SWC family cameras were described by HB as „small issues„ in the corners . Whatever that means .
I have never experienced any issues , not with CFV39 , CFV50 and CFV II 50 c .
I noticed as well the omission of the SWC from the "not ideal" list. My first digital back was an IQ160 in V mount. Image quality indeed suffered at the edges of the 40 x 54mm sensor compared to on-center, presumably caused by the longer path traveled by light through the glass covering the sensor at the more extreme angles toward the periphery. Stopping down to f/16 helped but I was never satisfied when shooting at larger apertures. That said, I think some folks here continue to use this full frame back without issue on the SWC. Perhaps the smaller cropped 33 x 44mm sensor renders the astigmatism less of an issue, although I don't know how well the symmetric Biogon design plays with the CFV's CCD and CMOS sensors compared to the IQ's Dalsa CCD sensor.

I might be tempted by an CFV-100C back - should it ever materialize - to try again with the SWC, but for me the more limited field of view projected on the cropped sensor negates the allure of that fabulous 38mm Biogon on the original 6 x 6 film format.

John
 

P. Chong

Well-known member
will an LCC frame help?

I noticed as well the omission of the SWC from the "not ideal" list. My first digital back was an IQ160 in V mount. Image quality indeed suffered at the edges of the 40 x 54mm sensor compared to on-center, presumably caused by the longer path traveled by light through the glass covering the sensor at the more extreme angles toward the periphery. Stopping down to f/16 helped but I was never satisfied when shooting at larger apertures. That said, I think some folks here continue to use this full frame back without issue on the SWC. Perhaps the smaller cropped 33 x 44mm sensor renders the astigmatism less of an issue, although I don't know how well the symmetric Biogon design plays with the CFV's CCD and CMOS sensors compared to the IQ's Dalsa CCD sensor.

I might be tempted by an CFV-100C back - should it ever materialize - to try again with the SWC, but for me the more limited field of view projected on the cropped sensor negates the allure of that fabulous 38mm Biogon on the original 6 x 6 film format.

John
 
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